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Rebecca Chernoff

12:00 AM

goes to look for the remove mod action

Michael Mrozek

Better devs than you have tried. I've grown too powerful

Rebecca Chernoff

must...resist...

Tim Stone

Hahah

badp

in The Bridge on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 18 mins ago, by LessPop_MoreFizz

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Michael Mrozek

@badp I have no idea what's going on, but it's still fantastic

badp

12:14 AM

> This is Endhiran, a Kollywood action flick. It's like Terminator, The Matrix, and Transformers combined, but better. Or, as Jesus summarized, "an orgy of absurdity that not even Michael Bay can match." -- Engadget

drachenstern

@TimStone meh I have a doctor's appt tomorrow afternoon

Tim Stone

@drachenstern Ah...hrm...hopefully that'll go well then?

@badp Hahahah, I feel like that's a pretty accurate summary :P

drachenstern

@TimStone just a GI consult

I may have an ulcer

wouldn't that be lovely.

Tim Stone

Ouch

drachenstern

So I get to get checked up for a possible EGD

and I'm sure they'll decide I need some KY requiring exams too ... I do have BlueCrossBlueShield and it is the start of the year, lots of premium to consume :\

Of course I exaggerate ;)

IT is about to bounce my firewall ... maybe I should go home now

bbiab

badp

12:34 AM

> The beauty of this architecture, of course, is that we can even add in our own custom algorithm and plug it into the singleton underlying FactorialUtil. We simply create our new FactorialAlgorithm implementation, registering our class with the FactorialAlgorithmFactory class during static class initialization.

@Benjol great ideas for code bowling ↑

Tim Stone

@badp So much hate for overcomplication, rah! Hahah

Jin

@ChrisF oh no

@ChrisF oh you were referring to the Area51 bug report. I saw that, couldn't repro.

Tim Stone

12:54 AM

@Jin People giving you a hard time because they installed some Firefox theme/user style/whatever, pssh :P

Rebecca Chernoff

@Jin Ah, so the rounded search box is what's different. I think I have a user style that's doing that. So I guess that square border is how it's supposed to look.

Jin

i wish !important can over write user styles!

maybe there needs to be a new key word, !jin

drachenstern

I like how I merely took a screenshot to confirm that I was seeing the redborder and it ended up becoming the fracking answer with two upvotes and a confirm ... I'm pretty sure that means I'm doing something wrong ...

Rebecca Chernoff

or something right lol

@Jin !oy

Tim Stone

I should have replied with my screenshot featuring the right-angle sign :P

drachenstern

12:58 AM

@TimStone you should have ;)

@RebeccaChernoff :p

hey so was my inbox++ just pure nuttery or ...?

Tim Stone

It felt kind of mean though, hahah.

Jin

@RebeccaChernoff can you be my QA tester later? do you have access to dev?

Rebecca Chernoff

I could...but it seems not |:

Tim Stone

Uh oh, access denied!

Jin

Moshe

1:05 AM

Still not home.

Jin

@RebeccaChernoff you get a sneak peek then

drachenstern

indyK1ng
236 0 1 3
0% accept rate

Yay for helpful users ... :(

Tim Stone

@Jin :o

drachenstern

@Jin what's the question?

@TimStone I think that's a doctored number

Jin

@drachenstern that one is for u

that one is for @TimStone

drachenstern

1:07 AM

lol

Jin

no more sneak peeks, until launch.

Tim Stone

We all get a little taste ;)

drachenstern

woohoo mine's bigger than @TimStone's ';)

3

Tim Stone

@drachenstern Nonsense, mine goes on for pages.

drachenstern

Seriously Jin, you're gonna have to not hold back anymore, you do such amazing work

@TimStone lol, but mine's OVER 9000

(pretend)

Jin

1:08 AM

@drachenstern i don't think i was holding back before lol. different style suits different sites. not every site needs to be glossy shiny like apple one

Moshe

Shivering in my boots. Train? nu?

Tim Stone

@Jin I still really, really like the stats site, heh. Even though I have zero interest in statistics :P

drachenstern

I love when customer service calls to bitch about my bill being unpaid, and saying "Well you've had services X Y Z since september" and I say "ehwut? I called in september to cancel X Y, I only needed Z, and it was supposed to be cancelled last month regardless, and they transfer me to the "right department" and after two minutes on hold the call drops ... ffs

Jin

@TimStone i like the LaTex one. I feel like I learned a lot from designing it. I'd love to learn TikZ one day, so powerful.

drachenstern

@Jin well, this one is the bees knees

Jin

1:10 AM

I remember reading this last year, when i was first hired: danzambonini.com/…

Tim Stone

@Jin Ah, nice. I hadn't seen that one somehow.

Jin

I knew his main beef was with the visuals, not really usability. and yet he kept on using "usability" as the main complaint. typical designer criticism if something's not eye candy...

drachenstern

Yeah I read that too a while back

Josh

I can has bounty pls? K thx

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A: OpenFire: Hide all users in the same group from each other?

You can do this using the Packet Filter Plugin, which is available by default in the Plugins section of the OpenFire admin. Using this plugin you can block messages between users of the Staff group from chatting with or seeing each other. I'd post a screen shot and detailed instructions, but it ...

FHC FTW!

Tim Stone

@Jin The funny part is I'm not too fond of the mock-up he presented as an alternative, heh. That being said, the trilogy could use some love...one day, right? ;)

drachenstern

1:13 AM

@Josh what does it take to get teh bounty?

Moshe

Hey it's a train. In the wrong direction.

Josh

@drachenstern if he doesn't award it, it takes 2 upvotes and I get half, I think?

drachenstern

well you've got one

Moshe

Eh. I think I see one.

Josh

Thanks @drachenstern!

drachenstern

1:14 AM

maybe @TimStone will slide over and upvote you again for you to get 25 ;)

Josh

I'm sure someone else will upvote my freehand circles, even if they don't upvote my correctness...

drachenstern

@Josh it was at least +0.6 for the FHC's and +0.3 for the "It works, I just tested it" ;)

@Josh yes but you need it within 9 hours

Josh

LOL thanks

drachenstern

kazing

+3

Jin

@TimStone i'm afraid if i touch the Holy Trinity I may get lynched..

Josh

1:15 AM

+4, this is on the way to being my best SF answer EVAR

drachenstern

lol

so you've got at least +65 reps for the one answer ... nice

Tim Stone

@Jin I will hand deliver you bacon if you fix the pixel differences in the layouts at least.

Josh

:-D

drachenstern

if he'll get off his duff in the next 9 hours you'll have +105 as it stands now ;)

Josh

@drachenstern I was afraid he might not see my edit, I answered yesterday but OpenFire's site was down ALL DAY, so I couldn't test my answer

Tim Stone

1:17 AM

Conspiracy!

drachenstern

@Josh that sucks

@TimStone NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Josh

It was down this morning also, and I had to work all day... but now I have upvotes so I am a happy cat

drachenstern

Ok well let me know how you fare on that one question ;)

Josh

> You've earned the "Revival" badge for OpenFire: Hide all users in the same group from each other?. See your profile.

dances

Tim Stone

Oh, nice.

Josh

1:18 AM

Thanks. Now if I can make my code stop 500 Internal Server Error ing, this will be a good day!

Tim Stone

I've only gotten that on Meta, since I haven't gotten around to answering the SO questions I still have open...

Moshe

Once we are playing voting ring, can I get some support on my correct answer?

Tim Stone

@Josh PHP or Apache issue?

Moshe

0

A: Game Center posting bogus scores - iPhone

Just implemented Game Center in my app. You need to convert your integer onto a int64_t. In Objective-C terms, thats a LongLong. You can change this: scoreReporter.value = gcPost; to this: scoreReporter.value = [[NSNumber numberWithInt:gcPost] longLongValue]; I strongly urge you to read the ...

Josh

@TimStone PHP Actually I swear I fixed it but this script is heavily cached, which is why I was answering questions waiting for cache to expire :-)

Tim Stone

1:19 AM

Ah ha

drachenstern

@Josh sweet

Josh

but given how long that answer took, I think I might have two problems ;-)

drachenstern

@Moshe are you sure you want that? You could get the unsung badge you know!

Moshe

Yw @Josh.

drachenstern

Badges > Reps

#Trufax

Moshe

1:21 AM

How so? @Drach?

Josh

oh, no I don't have two problems; it works now, YEY!

Moshe

What's unsung?

drachenstern

@Moshe it's a joke ...

Moshe

(read that once, forgot)

drachenstern

Unsung means so many accepted answers at score 0

Josh

1:21 AM

well if causing load of 6.3 on my server constitutes working then I suppose it "works"... heh...

Moshe

Ah. Heh. Nah. I want TEH VOTEZ!

Josh

maybe I should be fixing the load instead of editing my message here to indicate the load...

Moshe

Train. Yes.

Josh

> It is too late to edit this message

Damn

Moshe

Heh

On train. Warm.

Wants votes.

Upvotes.

Josh

1:27 AM

@Moshe are you OK? your messages are even more unusual than normal right now... ;-)

Tim Stone

@Josh I was thinking the same thing, heh.

Moshe

Erm. My feet are thawing out.

Josh

Ug, apacheserver.net is a ServerFault scraper...

Moshe

Does that explain it?

Tim Stone

@Josh That's just silly

Josh

1:32 AM

UG! So is devcomments.com !

Tim Stone

@Josh Nonsense, we demand real time updates of your server's status.

Moshe

@Josh so plant source code in your answers that messes with their CSS and whatnot.

Josh

@TimStone LOL

Tim Stone

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG!

addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/javascript-deminifier

SO MUCH JOY! @YiJiang

Raynos

Should a downvote be used for a unhelpful answer or a wrong answer?

Is it valid to downvote a helpful but wrong answer? (We're not being pedantic like typo == -1)

drachenstern

1:35 AM

@RebeccaChernoff inbox++ again :p ;) - or should I say (;

Josh

@TimStone OMG WTF BBQ!!!!!

@Raynos Both

Rebecca Chernoff

Ya know, gmail does let me know when I have a new email. q:

Josh

@Raynos Yes

@RebeccaChernoff LOL

But notinfing you here is so much more fun!

drachenstern

@RebeccaChernoff nonsense!!!

you're spoiling all my fun! lol

@Raynos indeed you should

Zypher

@RebeccaChernoff BUT IT'S the CLOUD!

Tim Stone

1:37 AM

@Josh I'm not sure that it's working though, hmm.

Josh

sad face. sad fugi face. :-(

Rebecca Chernoff

hrmph.

drachenstern

Also, how interesting that SO uses gmail for domains or whatever ... I would've figured they'ld just use a SOIS app for that ;)

Josh

@Zypher I am getting so sick of inductry magazines making dorkass cloud metaphors.

drachenstern

that would be funny, upvote or downvote email ...

ok, I'll quit being silly now

Tim Stone

1:39 AM

Oh, wait, I didn't read the instructions.

Josh

If I read one more article in Network World about how to bring an umbrella when deploying your private cloud...

Tim Stone

Holy crap it works.

Josh

@TimStone it works well?

Zypher

despises the cloud - and all that it really is

Josh

@TimStone I must get this now

Tim Stone

1:40 AM

@Josh It works exactly as if I had copied to jsbeautifier.org :P

But in Firebug!

Meaning I can set breakpoints and cause even more debugging trouble on SO :D

Josh

This will make my life SO MUCH FREAKING EASIER

Can I now go upvote all of your answers @TimStone

LOL

Tim Stone

I don't see why not. Just uh, mind the fraud detector ;)

Josh

He's going to get a notifcation and think Huh? What?

drachenstern

@Josh it'll trigger the fraud detector

@TimStone must download now

Tim Stone

You should also up vote this answer:

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A: Is there a plugin that allows me to automatically unminify the Javascript included on a site?

Someone has integrated JSBeautifier into Firebug: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/javascript-deminifier/ This has made my day today!

Which let me know :P

Josh

1:42 AM

I know @drachenstern ;-) I was kidding :-)

Rebecca Chernoff

points the fraud detector at @Josh.

Tim Stone

@Josh (I know you secretly weren't, but we'll have to be careful around @RebeccaChernoff)

Josh

@RebeccaChernoff I eat the fraud detector for breakfast

@TimStone Can I create a bounty on that question and award it to that answer?

ROFLMAO. @TimStone I've been getting really frustrated trying to figure out why I couldn't IM that link from my laptop (Token, where Chat is) to my development wokstation (Stan, where FireFox is)...

drachenstern

@Josh oh excellent question. I want to TOO

Josh

They're both signed in to Jabber! WTF?

I have short term memory loss, LOL

drachenstern

1:46 AM

No seriously. Can we award a bounty to that answer somehow?

Josh

I was seriously asking too

The short term memory loss was in reference to:

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A: OpenFire: Hide all users in the same group from each other?

You can do this using the Packet Filter Plugin, which is available by default in the Plugins section of the OpenFire admin. Using this plugin you can block messages between users of the Staff group from chatting with or seeing each other. I'd post a screen shot and detailed instructions, but it ...

Dan Grossman

Shouldn't you be trying to reward whoever put that feature in Firebug, rather than someone who just happened to link to it?

Josh

> This works, I just tested it

@drachenstern I forgot to disable it ;-)

Dan Grossman

Instead of donating reputation to some random SO folk, donate some cash to the open source developer ;)

Josh

@DanGrossman I have more rep than cash though...

drachenstern

1:47 AM

@DanGrossman some of us don't have that luxury today

Josh

;-)

@DanGrossman I'd gladly donate some of your cash though!

drachenstern

@DanGrossman no, I want them to have more reason to use this site and be more involved and share more awesome things

Josh

I have no cash left to donate, I gave it all to Jimmy Wales

Dan Grossman

interesting

mozilla.org prevents copying email addresses, they are backwards in the source

I selected [email protected] with my mouse and got moc.liamg@yhprummneb on my clipboard

Josh

HA!

That's clever

drachenstern

1:49 AM

lol, nice

Dan Grossman

I have also identified the exact day Ben M Murphy obtained that gmail address in 2004... ausgamers.com/forums/general/thread.php/…

drachenstern

eurotech-inc.com/wearable-computer-wrist-zypad-1100.asp

@DanGrossman lol

Josh

ARGH I STILL CANNOT INSTALL THIS EXTENSION!

Is SuperUser the proper site for a FireFox Extension download error?

Dan Grossman

probably

drachenstern

two questions:

Dan Grossman

1:54 AM

nobody really knows what you're allowed to ask on what sites

Tim Stone

@Josh Sorry, went to get food...what's the issue? :P

drachenstern

did I tell this user wrong? And where should it be updated in the FAQ?

What's the difference between a tag x # and a tag-follower

12 mins ago, 43 seconds total – 2 messages, 2 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked 31 secs ago by drachenstern

Dan Grossman

according to Jeff, it even depends on your current occupation, rather than your question

Josh

@TimStone my serverfault question! :-)

drachenstern

Josh

1:55 AM

10 mins ago, by Josh

ROFLMAO. @TimStone I've been getting really frustrated trying to figure out why I couldn't IM that link from my laptop (Token, where Chat is) to my development wokstation (Stan, where FireFox is)...

8 mins ago, by Josh

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A: OpenFire: Hide all users in the same group from each other?

You can do this using the Packet Filter Plugin, which is available by default in the Plugins section of the OpenFire admin. Using this plugin you can block messages between users of the Staff group from chatting with or seeing each other. I'd post a screen shot and detailed instructions, but it ...

Tim Stone

Oh, hahahah

Josh

7 mins ago, by Josh

> This works, I just tested it

But I didn't turn it off

Tim Stone

Whoops ;)

Josh

So I couldn't IM myself your link :-)

But now I can't install it, Firefox download error -228

Tim Stone

@Josh Hmm, weird.

Dan Grossman

1:59 AM

> Your site is down again, am i risking myself if i keep using your service?

5 minute downtime, after 5 months of 100% uptime. His "again" refers to that few minutes 5 months ago. Ergh.

Josh

I hate that

We have a few whiners like that

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Q: What is preventing me from upgrading / installing Fixefox extensions?

I am trying to install a Firefox extension into Firefox 3.6.13 under OS X 10.5.8, and I keep getting an error message: Firefox could not install the file at because: Download error -228 I have read this and found it unhelpful. My cache is 500 MB and ~/Library/Caches/TemporaryItems i...

Time for dinner now, bbl

Tim Stone

"Risking myself"? Heh. Tell him that you're sure demons won't come steal his soul if he continues to use your service.

Dan Grossman

Eh, I did the professional thing, mentioned the uptime record, and told him about the daily offsite backups and export features so he can always have a copy of his data himself too...

offsite backups = my home, though ;)

tonidoplug 4tw

drachenstern

<whiny>So anyways, all eyes on me ... did I tell the user the wrong thing when I answered this question?

What's the difference between a tag x # and a tag-follower

23 mins ago, 43 seconds total – 2 messages, 2 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked 11 mins ago by drachenstern

And should it be on the FAQ or is it and my blind eyes are missing it?

</whiny>

Dan Grossman

I think you're right, but I don't really know

drachenstern

2:11 AM

now I have a URL for a post :D

Dan Grossman

I'm on the "top php answerers" list for 30 days and all time, and all I have is a bronze badge :/

I'm surprised to see @Pekka as the top asker

drachenstern

lol

0

Q: What is meant by tag follower versus the "x number" that appears after a tag name?

This screenshot should demonstrate the two different items. There is a tag, a "x number" and a set of followers. What do the different numbers mean? This question comes courtesy of a chat dialog from the SO Tavern on chat.stackexchange.com Return to FAQ index

support faq-proposed

I should go walk my dogs :\

I just don't want to close up shop here :\ I have so much that I need to get done

Tim Stone

@drachenstern The numbers are different depending on the context.

drachenstern

Then you should edit my answer to reflect that :\

Tim Stone

No one knows what the number on the Recent Tags means though, that's been asked several times and never answered. :P

drachenstern

2:22 AM

It's not on the FAQ and someone asked

so I was trying to be helpful

Pollyanna

2:32 AM

Stories of stupid patients: forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=257985

Tim Stone

> Latex paint, despite being thick and creamy, does not coat your stomach and provide the same relief as pepto bismol.

lmao

drachenstern

wow

I think my timesheet is almost done for the month, now if I can actually finish up what I'm working on so that my timesheet is accurate :\

I need 3 hours for Monday

ttfn, bbiab

Josh

@TimStone LOL!

Pollyanna

@Tim My favorite so far was the one where the army lt. inserted his pager in an odd place, then chose to visit the military hospital on his base to have it removed. The staff amused themselves the rest of the evening while waiting for an OR to open up by paging him randomly.

Tim Stone

Brilliant, hahah

Josh

2:50 AM

LOL

Pollyanna

I shouldn't have started to read it earlier today. I've gone through 30 of the 60 pages. toilet.push(Productivity)

Josh

@Pollyanna Yeah not opening that link :-)

The Tunes room is still underused! :-(

chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/rooms/251/tunes

WOW @TimStone THIS FIREFOX EXTENSION HAS CHANGED MY LIFE

YOU ARE MY NEW BEST FRIEND

Tim Stone

@Josh Hahahah

Moshe

Hi

Josh

Hey @Moshe

Moshe

2:58 AM

Just getting home now. A 45 minute commute gone bad. 4 hours and 6 trains and a car and a bus. But not in that order.

Josh

@TimStone We minify all our JS and it comes from a variety of modules, each one is a package of PHP, HTMl JavaScript and CSS, so finally I will be able to track down JS errors quickly

Tim Stone

Nice :D

Josh

We do, fortunetly, have a way for me to disable minification ona site-by-site basis but not hopefully I will need that less

@Moshe YIKES

@Moshe I know what's causing this and I feel for you

What's the difference between a tag x # and a tag-follower

What's the difference between a tag x # and a tag-follower

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