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Alexis King

6:00 AM

@JasonC The point I'm trying to make is that finding examples of this is hard when the system as it's currently implemented doesn't let these things rise to the surface of the barrel of sludge, when I think it really could.

James

@Braiam Kinda

user259867

multi-site spammer stackexchange.com/users/6007871/jeanine-pirro?tab=activity

Shog9

OH JOY!

Alexis King

@Shog9's day has been made.

Shog9

I just found two pieces of pizza in the fridge. Now I just hope that white stuff on top is cheese

Jason C

6:02 AM

@AlexisKing If the point you're trying to make is that finding these examples are hard, then that's what you should discuss in your meta post, but I'm confused, because the issue you claim to be talking about is "the issue of what the hell to do with old, highly-upvoted questions with very useful answers".

So, like I said, reel this back in.

Alexis King

@JasonC You're right. That meta question was muddled. I should've sorted out the issues I was trying to discuss better.

Braiam

@Shog9 I'm told that if you blow it you can know for sure

Jason C

@Shog9 It doesn't matter what it is. Sprinkle some bacon bits on it and it'll be delicious.

Alexis King

It was too hastily written without enough review.

Shog9

Protip: want a scintillating meta discussion, but don't have enough data to prove the existence of a problem? Lay out your theory, complete with criticisms, and ask for help proving or disproving it.

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bummi

6:05 AM

some "funny" guys on the road today:
http://apple.stackexchange.com/a/179981/55266
http://webapps.stackexchange.com/a/75810/45867

James

@AstroCB, can I borrow you in the Triage school chatroom?

Jason C

I think Shog has a little brother that he's never told us about, who, every once in a while, sneaks up to his computer and types smart things.

Alexis King

@Shog9 Part of the idea of that question was really just to try and do some research of exactly that type, not find a definitive answer to anything. It was an open-ended discussion. That said, I don't think it served that purpose very well at all, even if Meta did serve as a better platform for that.

Shog9

I have many little brothers I've never told you about.

Jason C

... Is that a threat?

user259867

6:06 AM

spam superuser.com/questions/899014/natural-yacon-cleanse-free-trial

Jason C

It's weirdly ominous.

James

@pizza Gone

Jason C

@SmokeDetector fpu

SmokeDetector

@JasonC Registered answer as false positive and whitelisted user.

James

there is no email in that body

Jason C

6:08 AM

@James There's an email address in the mailing list link.

user259867

> Birthday: the day you get spammed with "Happy Birthday" emails and find out which sites you've yet to unsubscribe from promotiomal emails. -- Kyle Staskiewicz at 10:38 PM - 7 Apr 2015 via Twitter

Alexis King

@pizza I got to do that just two days ago! \o/

user259867

Should we spam @animuson with Happy Birthday mentions?

Jason C

Yes.

Shog9

what is a tavern for, if not birthday wishes?

2

Braiam

6:09 AM

@pizza puts date on calendar

Roombatron5000

Happy Birthday @animuson!

Shog9

For @animuson's a jolly good fellow,

for @animuson's a jolly good fellow

for @animuson's a jolly good fellow...

James

@animuson, I hope head office got you a cake

Braiam

for @animuson's

Shog9

...and only a few chronic malcontents would venture to dispute this assertion

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user259867

6:10 AM

Most of whom are deleted anyway

Jason C

@Shog9 I was wondering if you were going to go british or american. Thanks for taking the middle ground.

Roombatron5000

@animuson was probably my favorite mod on SO since he sometimes did what people in the tavern asked him to

Alexis King

@Roombatron5000 As opposed to all the reasonable mods, who intelligently use the Tavern as reconnaissance for the opposite of what to do.

Hey, @Shog9, feature-request... can you get this done while you're in here?

yesterday, by Jason C

Let's just give diamonds to the entire tavern and call it a day.

Roombatron5000

~~SPAM stackoverflow.com/questions/29507246/…~~

Shog9

diamonds for the Tavern, coming up... on Lifehacks

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James

6:14 AM

@Roombatron5000 gone

Braiam

@Roombatron5000 I don't know why I even try to click

Alexis King

@Shog9 awwyiss

Jason C

If somebody writes a userscript to just add diamonds next to everybody's name in this room, I'm sure we'd be just as happy playing make-believe. Actually, we might not even notice they aren't real.

James

@Shog9 why Lifehacks?

Roombatron5000

@Braiam it only had my 1 spam flag when I posted

Braiam

6:14 AM

@Shog9 cool! Exactly what we wan.... err... ewww

Shog9

@James so they can annoy the folks over on The Bridge

Alexis King

@James Because Lifehacks basically has the reputation as the toilet of Stack Exchange at this point.

Jason C

I like to think of it as the New Jersey of Stack Exchange.

Shog9

Don't tell anyone, but LifeHacks exists purely to give Wipqozn something to talk about.

2

Braiam

@AlexisKing except for ~~programming~~ stuff about people that happens to write in IDE's questions

James

6:16 AM

@JasonC, I'm from Australia, but from your analogy, I'm going to guess that it's like the North Queensland of Australia

or perhaps Tasmania

tchrist

@JasonC That probably means something to wet coasters, but I have no idea what.

Jason C

@James Hm, I'm from the USA, but from your analogy, I'm going to guess that North Queensland is like the New Jersey of USA.

So it works out.

Shog9

we need to get that site some Utes

Alexis King

OH, you're from the Land Down Under?!

...I may have been listening to too much 70s and 80s music lately.

tchrist

What's a New Jersey here?

Jason C

6:17 AM

@tchrist East coast

@tchrist Where are you? I forget.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title, Bad keyword in body: Skin Care to go to the spa also web all by Chloe Ava on drupal.stackexchange.com

tchrist

@JasonC I said that already.

Roombatron5000

@JasonC Boulder

Jason C

Too many people said too many things, sorry.

James

Where are all these mystical places?

tchrist

6:19 AM

What does an NJ mean?

Braiam

@James you mean the magical place, which is Tahiti

@tchrist no jobs

Shog9

@James One of them is in beautiful Colorado; the rest are stuck in traffic.

Jason C

^

Alexis King

@Shog9 Don't even talk to me about traffic. mumbles something about about Los Angeles and the 405 freeway

Jason C

I was just in Denver for the first time, I really liked it. But I didn't get to see much of the city.

It reminds me of Pittsburgh, though, a lot (my home town).

tchrist

6:21 AM

@AlexisKing I need to drive less. I put 1800 miles on in the last 8 months alone.

Shog9

Next time, rent a car and drive up to Longmont. Get some good beer...

Roombatron5000

@tchrist ? you must live close to work or do you mean 18,000

Jason C

@Shog9 Word. I'm trying to convince my client that he'll need me to go back up there to "make sure there aren't any problems" next month when our project opens.

tchrist

@JasonC The beauty of Colorado rests not in its cities but in its untrammelled wilderness.

@Roombatron5000 One thousand eight hundred.

Shog9

yeah, ok, after you get the beer head up into the hills

Jason C

6:22 AM

@tchrist I've been skiing and hiking out there plenty of times, I've just never been in or near Denver.

James

All you Americans with your black president..... all we have is a shaved gorilla in a suit

tchrist

FLAG

Alexis King

@tchrist I drive at least 40 miles most days. o.o

tchrist

@AlexisKing Good bye love of life.

Alexis King

@tchrist Tell me about it.

I'm trying to move ASAP.

Roombatron5000

6:24 AM

...age 35 to 54.. driving an average of 15,291 miles per year, according to the Department of Transportation. But driving falls off quickly as people move into retirement. Americans age 55 to 64 drive fewer than 12,000 miles per year, on average. And Americans age 65 and older drive an average of only 7,650 miles per year -- half what they drove in their prime working years.

Jason C

@Roombatron5000 I think old people spend the same amount of time driving, they just do it slower.

tchrist

If this is retirement, I should get more sleep.

James

@tchrist What?! Tony Abbot is a shaved gorilla in a suit. He's essentially the George Bush of Australian Politics. No one is quite sure how he got to be running the country, because everyone swears that they didn't vote for him.

Jason C

@James Is the George Bush of Australian Politics like the New Jersey of Tasmania?

James

@JasonC Yes

Alexis King

6:25 AM

People into masturbatory navel-gazing have a lot to learn about masturbation.

Jason C

Ah, I understand now.

bummi

again a user asking for being nuked: stackexchange.com/users/6104047/mike-radar

tchrist

@James I get tired of using emoticons as punctuation. Had I meant it in seriousness, a little blue blip would have shown up, not a comment to that effect.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: You wanna you can pick you have by john on drupal.stackexchange.com

Alexis King

@tchrist I just throw emoticons everywhere because otherwise it's impossible to tell that I'm sarcastic pretty much 98% of the time.

James

6:28 AM

Actually now that I think about it, he's more a shaved gorilla in speedos

Shog9

I'm never sarcastic, therefore I try to avoid emoticons lest someone think otherwise.

James

Hasn't he come over to america and made an ass of himself recently?

tchrist

Weredonkey is he now?

James

@Shog9 Was that meta-sarcasm

Shog9

nooooo

Alexis King

6:30 AM

Where's @Uni? Mind-blowing should be occurring.

Jason C

He's already had his mind blown once today.

Actually that might have been yesterday, so he should be good to go. Although I believe he also died yesterday as well.

Alexis King

(Yeah, that's why I bring it up. -.-)

And yes, he did.

in Stack Overflow 2015 Moderator Election Chat on Stack Overflow Chat, 10 hours ago, by Jason C

@Unihedro Your mind blew and you died in the same day. Rough day?

user259867

Could be worse. He could be running for a mod.

Jason C

I blame BizarroTim.

Shog9

that guy would've made an awesome mod. Too bad he never flagged.

James

6:33 AM

How much rep will you need to vote in the election

Anonymous

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Q: How to limit speed with BMW JSDK on 116i programmatically from Java?

I'm experimenting with the BMW Java SDK on the new BMW 116i Innovation Package. Basic things like turning the lights on and off, starting and stopping the motor work fine. What I'm trying to do now is that to write a carlet which would limit the speed to the maximum configured in the driver profi...

Alexis King

@James However much rep @bjb has at any given time, plus one.

user259867

@James 150

tchrist

@James Per sock, or total?

Alexis King

@tchrist Imma win this election through sheer willpower alone. And by willpower, I mean my botnet.

user259867

6:37 AM

Meanwhile, the RPG election is all but forgotten.

James

@AlexisKing Cruel

@pizza Cheers

@tchrist Per Sock, but add a margin for error

Alexis King

Man, this chat would get a lot more interesting if I added a sock -> fabric foot garment transformation to my text replacement addon.

Jason C

@AlexisKing Or sock -> meat.

Alexis King

@JasonC I don't even get it. I feel inadequate.

Jason C

Don't worry, it was just weak late night humor.

SmokeDetector

6:43 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Like to use land I’m high on the left hand is by dance beark on meta.stackexchange.com

James

Rapid Repair Eye serum ehhh

Jason C

It's a very poetic title.

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@JasonC Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

Alexis King

> Like to use land
I'm high on the left hand
But now the land is mere sand
And the right hand is most panned

I don't even know

I need sleep.

SilentKiller

spam gone

Jason C

6:47 AM

@AlexisKing That's pretty deep. Pass me whatever you're smoking.

Anonymous

Would somebody be able to show me the candidates at dev.stackoverflow.com/election/1 and dev.meta.stackoverflow.com/election/1 ? I have a memory; it may be false.

Unihedro

Wait, so I can vote myself with socks?

2

Alexis King

@JasonC Perfect. Now could you explain it to me? I didn't get it.

Jason C

@JeremyBanks stackoverflow.com/election/1?

Anonymous

@JasonC Nope. :P

Jason C

6:49 AM

Sorry. I suck. :(

Anonymous

@AlexisKing A truly elevated composition.

Anonymous

@Unihedro For some senses of the word can.

Alexis King

@JeremyBanks It's true. Where would I be without my muse, dance beark? God only knows.

Jason C

Lol

Anonymous

@JeremyBanks It may be meta.dev.stackexchange.com/election/1. I got my metas confused.

SmokeDetector

6:54 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: A bit more removing onto but kickers next anger by lillynorris on drupal.stackexchange.com

bummi

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

J. Steen

Morning!

James

Hey

bummi

Morning!

James

6:55 AM

waits for BJBBot to kick in

Jason C

Hi

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, Blacklisted website: Just like you know it just by Sara Strother on meta.stackexchange.com

bummi

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

SilentKiller

gone

J. Steen

7:02 AM

If you're going to make smarmy, sarcastic comments, get your facts straight first.

despite the fact that this question is off topic on SO, WCF is a web service technology, as Web API, sorry — InvernoMuto 8 mins ago

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer: Source book for story of Lohitansh/Lohitang by Ishan on hinduism.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Advance recipe make you feel more energetic by Elter Butler on security.stackexchange.com

James

@SmokeDetector gone

J. Steen

Gone. At -10.

James

smokey's getting slow

J. Steen

Smokey is overwhelmed by the sheer amount of crap that circulates on the SE network.

user259867

7:06 AM

!!/apiquota

SmokeDetector

@pizza 5000

user259867

Uh oh. That's... halfway spent, and we are 8 hours into UTC day.

J. Steen

Maybe they could consider expanding the bot's quota, since we're doing quite a lot of work that slips by the filters...

Speaking of which.

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/29508082/…

James

flags as too-broad, imagines @AlexisKing seething :)

Alexis King

@James It's alright, I just voted to close as too broad. ;)

James

7:12 AM

I thought you might

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

cv-pls: stackoverflow.com/questions/29508120/…

James

@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ gone

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

@SmokeDetector fpu

SmokeDetector

7:15 AM

@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ Registered question as false positive, whitelisted user and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

James

My boss gave me two containers of super putty....... I have no idea why

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Can we retrieve list data using angularjs in sharepoint 2013 hosted app? by Niranjan Kulkarni on sharepoint.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, Bad keyword in body, Blacklisted website: What are the ingredients of it? by phirjajuriya on drupal.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Benefit From Pdf To Exceed For Mac? by hkuchio Fieo on askubuntu.com

ProgramFOX

Morning!

@SmokeDetector hrm, duplicate reason again

SilentKiller

Morning!

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

7:22 AM

@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

ProgramFOX

oh, the post matches two different "Bad keyword" regexes. I'll add a thing to filter out duplicate reasons.

Patrick Hofman

Good morning :)

J. Steen

Morning!

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

7:22 AM

@SmokeDetector fpu

SmokeDetector

@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ Registered question as false positive, whitelisted user and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

J. Steen

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/29508060/…

^ Destroy.

Might as well do this one too, if anyone feels like it:

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/29507968/…

I'm happy to help drain all y'all's close votes.

James

well you would..... IF I HAD THEM!

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

Am I the only one here at the moment with the privileges to control SmokeDetector? Nobody else seems to be reacting to it.

James

Upvote this one: A user has learned based on a review comment: stackoverflow.com/a/29332173/2357233

ProgramFOX

7:28 AM

@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ I have, but I just came in the room, and now I'm fixing the duplicate reasons thingy :p

James

@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ I don't have smokey privileges yet

ProgramFOX

@James I can give you them, if you want.

James

Sure why not!

but make sure you don't mix me up with the other James

ProgramFOX

We use IDs, so users cannot be mixed up.

James

excellect

I'll just need a command list. I haven't bothered to work it out

ProgramFOX

7:31 AM

@James github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/wiki/Commands

James

cheers

ProgramFOX

!!/rev?

SmokeDetector

@ProgramFOX 5eb38ec (ProgramFOX: Add James to the privileged list)

ProgramFOX

Alright, no duplicate reasons anymore, and James has privileges :)

James

Sweet

!!/so2015

SmokeDetector

7:34 AM

@James Yay for the 2015 Stack Overflow Moderator Election! Primaries begin in 5 days, 12 hours, 25 minutes and 53 seconds.

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Clash of clans cheats tricks and secrets for android? by NatalieHaynes on askubuntu.com

James

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@James Blacklisted user.

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Clash of Clans cheat. anyone? by really zabo on mathoverflow.net

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

@James Pretty sure that was the incorrect action...

ProgramFOX

question is spam seed, please flag that too

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

7:36 AM

@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ Blacklisted user.

James

@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ AHHHHHH DON'T SAY THAT

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

ah, right

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Clash of Clans gems cheat? by NatalieHaynes on webmasters.stackexchange.com

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ Blacklisted user.

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

7:37 AM

check out the user's accounts, IMHO they need to be deleted

James

stackexchange.com/users/5933097/kellyhunter?tab=accounts

Spam seeds

!!/addblu stackexchange.com/users/5933097/kellyhunter

SmokeDetector

@James User blacklisted (5933097 on stackexchange.com).

ProgramFOX

SPAM chemistry.stackexchange.com/q/28373/12753

@James not effective; addblu is per-site, not over the whole network

James

@ProgramFOX damn

ProgramFOX

!!/rmblu stackexchange.com/users/5933097/kellyhunter

SmokeDetector

7:38 AM

@ProgramFOX User removed from blacklist (5933097 on stackexchange.com).

James

was expecting that

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

@James Just do a tpu, it's more effective

ProgramFOX

If we would check the network account for all posts, we would make a lot of requests.

James

ahh I see

ProgramFOX

argh, screw you, flag rate limit

James

7:39 AM

I know

ProgramFOX

SPAM another one philosophy.stackexchange.com/q/22895/10419

James

Can we flag the user as a spam seed on Stackexchange

rene

@ProgramFOX and I have a new account due to that....

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

@James Just raise a custom moderator flag on one of their posts as I have done.

J. Steen

cv-pls wat stackoverflow.com/questions/29508441/…

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

7:41 AM

Creating a new Meta post about it will likely lead to downvotes on the question

ProgramFOX

@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ What would be the purpose of a Meta post? Spam is removed pretty quickly due to the Tavern, a Meta post won't really do anything.

Also, I'll blacklist "Clash of Clans (Hack|Cheat)" for titles

derobert

Another account with Clash of .* cheat posts: stackexchange.com/users/5933495/christianeheggan?tab=activity

James

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/29508276/2357233

Martijn Pieters

@derobert confirmed, also seen on Programmers.

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

@James Do 'cv-pls', otherwise the bot won't pick it up.

James

7:45 AM

which bot?

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

@MartijnPieters Any idea if it's coming from one IP?

ProgramFOX

@James Zephyr

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

@James chat.meta.stackexchange.com/rooms/773/low-quality-posts-hq

James

Oh cool!

ProgramFOX

new blacklisted keywords added

James

7:48 AM

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ FLIP THAT TABLE.
┻━┻ ︵ヽ(°□°ヽ) FLIP THIS TABLE.
┻━┻ ︵＼\('0')/／︵ ┻━┻ FLIP ALL THE TABLES
ಠ_ಠ Son...
ಠ_ಠ Put.
ಠ__ಠ The tables.
ಠ___ಠ Back.
(╮°-°)╮┳━┳
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ NEVER

ProgramFOX

still alive philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/22895/…

still alive chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/28373/…

still alive unix.stackexchange.com/questions/194987/clash-of-stone-cheat

derobert

Unix & Linux one is now dead

Martijn Pieters

@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ I have no idea.

derobert

also alive on webmasters webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/78970/…

and ubuntu askubuntu.com/questions/606647/…

Jan Dvorak

au gone

James

7:56 AM

@SmokeDetector fpu

SmokeDetector

@James Registered question as false positive, whitelisted user and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

Qantas 94 Heavy

chemistry and unix gone

ProgramFOX

@James Actually, whitelisting the user only makes sense if the user name contains a bad keyword; because only the username is excluded from checking when a user is whitelisted.

James

ahh ok

ProgramFOX

closed

by a 5k user :/

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