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Undo

16:00

2px solid rgba(255, 77, 0, 0.48) looks fairly good to my eyes

rlemon

still want the red tho?

Undo

Oh yeah, it helps to not put stuff in the wrong spot

rlemon

kk I'll add that into the sheet.

it'll probably update in the next hour or two, google is slow

Undo

np, thank you!

You're my Stylizification Hero of the Day

hichris123

Ugh, how many reopen votes does meta.stackexchange.com/questions/111493/… have?

Undo

16:02

4

one of them mine

rlemon

@Undo @OliverSalsburg (however you spell it) was the original author, I just kinda forked his and ran with it

Undo

Well you ran pretty far with it

rlemon

light themes give me migraines

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: MYSQL TABLE DOESN'T EXIST by Nick_Core on serverfault.com

Undo

ugh, now Chrome's light bar looks out of place

hichris123

16:04

@Undo one more! :(

Undo

@hichris123 smokey doesn't have enough rep :(

Braiam

> You have already voted to reopen this question; you may recast your vote in 9 days

hichris123

@Braiam Time travel then! :P

rlemon

@Undo github.com/mauricecruz/chrome-devtools-zerodarkmatrix-theme dark dev tools

ProgramFOX

@hichris123 reopened

rlemon

16:05

I have a theme for chrome that slightly darkens it

but not by much at all

Undo

cv-plz primarily-opinion-based stackoverflow.com/q/2968226/1849664

Bart

Why does it need to be reopened @hichris123? Seems to be a dupe if not for the tags?

Braiam

@Bart is not "fixed"

Bart

Am I missing something? It doesn't say that anywhere? The bug report dupe is still open ...

hichris123

@Bart meta.stackexchange.com/questions/215522/… is fixed, but oneboxing xkcd with https is not. Twitter w/ https is also weird, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

ProgramFOX

16:07

@TimPost Looks like this is fixed if you onebox a SE post with HTTPS, but XKCD oneboxes still break. Could you add [status-completed] to this question and reopen meta.stackexchange.com/questions/111493/…;? Thanks! — hichris123 Mar 29 at 22:26

Braiam

one is about internal links (aka X.se) the other is about external links (aka xkcd, twitter, xkcd, wikipedia, etc. did I mention xkcd?)

Bart

Ah ...

Me slow

hichris123

Let's try Twitter:

I love comments in the #stackoverflow codebase: goto default; // hey, blame Lippert, if C# had a fall through we wouldn't be here, would we?

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on April 7, 2015 at 9:10 PM

... and see, that worked with https.

but sometimes it... just doesn't.

Braiam

We lost a peering session with one of our ISPs and experienced a network reconvergence at 14:37 UTC. We are still working on the issue.

Tweeted by StackStatus on April 7, 2015 at 1:51 PM

Undo

@rlemon YES thank you for this

rlemon

16:09

@Undo np, I also use a dark theme for github and jsfiddle

and google music :P

the jsfiddle one is pretty slick

but those are stylish themes, not in the chrome store afaik

Braiam

xkcd.com/1509

hichris123

put I a bounty on the question.

Bart

"or put I not?"

Jan Dvorak

"or not I put" what Yoda would say is

hichris123

ahaha I didn't even realize I did that.

Sterling Archer

16:27

Dark theme <3

Infinite Recursion

@J.Steen I cleared the stars.

Martijn Pieters

16:41

@TimStone: elections.stackexchange.com/#stackoverflow

dead, dead, dead. Again.

user259867

Feb 10 at 0:41, by hichris123

@FamousBlueRaincoat You do it. I don't want more meta rep.

Bart

http works

bjb568

@MartijnPieters :o

Jason C

@Martijn @TimStone ^ What bart said.

Tim Stone

Yeah, that's a completely separate environment, we can't piggyback on the wildcard cert there.

Also to be fair, it wasn't dead last time, just...crippled. Or something.

Jason C

16:54

@TimStone feature-request Link back to the nomination post for easier commenting.

Tim Stone

Huh, yeah, I don't know why it doesn't do that >_>

Will add it to my list, thanks

Jason C

That statistics page is a way better interface overall than the nominations post page.

hichris123

@pizza I would have 3k rep if I hadn't given 3 bounties. :P

user259867

And I would have... 9943 rep if I hadn't given 50 bounties. O.O

Braiam

and and... I don't have cool things to say :(

Martijn Pieters

17:01

@TimStone: ah, so it does. It did work before indeed, so I just didn't notice.

Tim Stone

Err I'm not sure how it could have, but :o

Martijn Pieters

@TimStone or I am simply dead wrong.

Tim Stone

As long as it works now :)

Martijn Pieters

But I've been using SO via HTTPS forever now and so I usually end up on the elections page to read a comment (damn those broken comment links), so that means that usually I think I loaded the elections page over HTTPS, which means that the elections stats page is also reached via HTTPS.

Perhaps the link was made protocol relative very recently? Or I may just be misguessing my usage patterns here.

Braiam

spam? meta.stackexchange.com/q/253037/213575

user259867

17:05

gone

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

@SmokeDetector fpu

SmokeDetector

@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ Registered question as false positive, whitelisted user and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

Feeds

We are about to move the *.stackexchange.com wildcard through CloudFlare. If you see any issues, please let us know.

Tweeted by StackStatus on April 8, 2015 at 5:08 PM

Jason C

@MartijnPieters When I access the current elections page via HTTPS, the stats page link is still HTTP. The protocol is explicit in the link. Do you have some browser extension that's forcing HTTPS on it?

user259867

Can anyone explain the process of moving wild cards through flaring clouds?

vaultah

17:11

@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ woah, have you fpu'd it after I edited the question?

Andrew T.

spam http://android.stackexchange.com/a/104878/44325
spam http://android.stackexchange.com/a/104877/44325
spam http://android.stackexchange.com/a/104875/44325
(all answer, not the question)

vaultah

You may only flag a post every 5 seconds

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

@vaultah yeah, your edit was 5 seconds old when I fpu'ed

Unihedro

UMMM

The flag box isn't transparent anymore, but comment flag boxes are

vaultah

Does this mean my edit is wrong? @ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

ProgramFOX

17:14

@AndrewT. all gone

Andrew T.

too late to delete my message, and thanks.

user259867

@vaultah Not at all. False positive = not spam. This does not mean the question is perfect.

Unihedro

Wow, it's my lucky day! I got 60 rep without doing anything.

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

@vaultah fpu adds the current revision of the question, as far as I know. Your edit was good, and since fpu whitelists the question and user (fp = False Positive, u = User).

user259867

By the way, it does not matter whether it was before or after edit. Smokey does not fetch the page again, it parses the message to which someone responded, and adds the data to a list.

ProgramFOX

17:15

9 hours ago, by ProgramFOX

@James Actually, whitelisting the user only makes sense if the user name contains a bad keyword; because only the username is excluded from checking when a user is whitelisted.

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

hm

vaultah

Ahh, okies. Thanks @ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ, @pizza

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

@vaultah Alternatively tpu is tp = True Positive, u = User

user259867

All-caps titles usually don't need any response, unless they turn out to be spam. By default they get "ignore", i.e., do not report again.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: INFORMATION CREDIBILITY QUESTION by Matthew F Lix on ux.stackexchange.com

user259867

17:18

VLQ, and this is not the first time...

user259867

2 days ago, by SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: Information Credibility by Matthew Lix on physics.stackexchange.com

rene

@pizza was it a spam seed?

Andrew T.

@SmokeDetector ignore, but flag as either VLQ or off-topic

SmokeDetector

@AndrewT. Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

@SmokeDetector tp

SmokeDetector

17:22

@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ Registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

rene

closed by a mod

bjb568

rene

Just post again if it is 6666

bjb568

Where is the highly voted meta answer which ended in "Answers that contribute to the demise of the site are not helpful"?

It isn't that exact text, but it said downvoting answers to awful questions is ok

Jason C

Was it on MSE or MSO?

bjb568

17:32

Where "helpful" comes from the DV hovertext

@JasonC I think MSO

Martijn Pieters

@JasonC I don't.

@JasonC: the page I have open still says HTTPS for that link.

Hrm, perhaps it is SOUP.

Yeah, it is SOUP.

I'll report it to them then.

bjb568

I hope it wasn't edited…

Jason C

@bjb568 Well there's meta.stackexchange.com/questions/133552/…

Martijn Pieters

@JasonC: thanks for pointing that possibility out.

Jason C

@bjb568 Also meta.stackexchange.com/questions/194963/…

rene

17:35

@bjb meta.stackexchange.com/questions/104127/…

Braiam

4

Q: Building a good "Find The Next Question To Answer" query

Some of you may recall an experiment I ran a month or so ago, the "Answer Similar Questions" hook. It didn't work quite like we'd hoped, but the data suggests there's some promise there. The quality of the search in the experiment was quite poor, which was noted both here on Meta and in subsequ...

Martijn Pieters

github.com/vyznev/soup/issues/4

Andrew T.

@bjb meta.stackoverflow.com/a/272425/2821954 might be related

Anonymous

I downvote answers to clearly unsuitable questions if they're from users with more than a few hundred rep, but I guess that's a minority opinion.

Jason C

@AndrewT. With Robert Harvey's answer on that same question potentially being a stronger case for @bjb.

Anonymous

17:40

I also downvote high-rep people who reply to horrible-formatted potentially-suitable questions without ever bothering to clean them up. I find that behaviour very frustrating.

rene

@Braiam oh, just tried it. That is little bit daunting....

it is very casesensitive

Unihedro

Good night

rene

night

ProgramFOX

night

rlemon

happy post-evening

Jason C

17:51

And a happy pre-tomorrow to you as well.

Andrew T.

Still couldn't get "Find The Next Question To Answer" to give better result... even with parameter from Travis J... or my answer just suck :/

Mooseman

cv-pls tool stackoverflow.com/q/14043029/1234256

hichris123

I really want to flog whoever thought it was a good idea to use this SQL query: SELECT username FROM users WHERE username = $project->user

rlemon

@hichris123 re-factor code: 20 minutes... redundant query: 20 seconds

SmokeDetector

18:09

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HANK DE VENDAS - RELATORIO by antonio germano on pt.stackoverflow.com

jadarnel27

Hmmm, what happened to the sidebar advertisement on the SO homepage?

user259867

@rene I don't know. In both cases I flagged VLQ; the post disappeared.

jadarnel27

There are a couple of divs still there (between favorite tags and hot network questions), but they are empty.

...and it's back.

Maybe I'm crazy.

user259867

@AndrewT. I have high hopes for raising the cosine of title length to the power of arctangent of tag count.

Lynn Crumbling

@Mooseman closed

bjb568

18:37

Tornado drill cancelled due to weather. Ironic.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: How to convert exFAT to FAT32? by Marco on superuser.com

rene

@jadarnel27 company ad-blocker?

Mooseman

@LynnCrumbling +1

bjb568

Nom thread seems to be going well.

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

@SmokeDetector fp

SmokeDetector

18:51

@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

@SmokeDetector tp

SmokeDetector

@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ true/tp cannot be used for answers because their job is to add the title of the question to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'. If you want to blacklist the poster of the answer, use trueu or tpu.

Braiam

is SO CB broken again?

Undo

cv-plz ot-typo stackoverflow.com/q/29468280/1849664 based on stackoverflow.com/a/29522951/1849664

Braiam

@Undo wasn't mysql_* depreciated?

Undo

18:56

has been for years

but it does work, as long as you don't let users anywhere near code using it

and you sacrifice a goat prior to each invocation

Braiam

@Undo with or without a single horn in their forehead?

Feeds

We will observe CloudFlare-proxied traffic to *.stackexchange.com over the next 18 hours before enabling #stackoverflow traffic tomorrow.

Tweeted by StackStatus on April 8, 2015 at 6:57 PM

Undo

It needs to have at least eight horns

Braiam

what kind of satanic rites are those guys doing using mysql_*?

Undo

You should ask them, they'd know better than I would :P

rlemon

19:00

they are afraid of pdo

Undo

because PDO is a scary-sounding acronym

Braiam

PeDO

yeah, very scarry

Undo

It took me getting bit by an injection before I realized that maaaaaybe I should use PDO.

rlemon

I worked SQA for many years

Undo

Up until then, mysql_* worked and no one was going to tell me to put more work in to learn how to fix something that apparently wasn't borked

rlemon

19:01

I bit many devs in the butt with injection issues

Braiam

@Undo but but... SQL injection?

there should be a migration helper for that...

Undo

I just moved to Rails :P

rlemon

postgresql ftw

bjb568

hallo

werld

Undo

Hiya @bjb

bjb568

19:05

im heawr

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

Roombatron5000

just a test

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

@Roombatron5000 i.sstatic.net/x0h5N.jpg?s=164&g=1

Anonymous

19:25

Hoping that (a) I'm not entirely crazy and (b) there are more likely to be some of the super-friendly awesome wonderful brilliant staff around at this time of day than in the middle of the night:

Anonymous

13 hours ago, by Jeremy Banks

Would somebody be able to show me the candidates at http://dev.stackoverflow.com/election/1 and http://dev.meta.stackoverflow.com/election/1 ? I have a memory; it may be false.

Anonymous

13 hours ago, by Jeremy Banks

@JeremyBanks It may be https://meta.dev.stackexchange.com/election/1. I got my metas confused.

Undo

@hichris123 might be able to :P

Anonymous

Advice regarding the current means of gaining access to dev would also serve my purpose. ;)

Undo

IIRC they locked it down pretty tight

rene

19:28

@JeremyBanks I only got that for a couple of hours in december 2013 but is not open, it could be on invite

Shog9

@JeremyBanks what? why.

rene

@JeremyBanks you aren't looking for this?

rlemon

what happened to Lasse? step down?

Kev is also no longer a mod?

/me doesn't pay attention to these sorts of things

user259867

Anna Lear and Tim Post didn't get the Sheriff badge... but animuson has it. Unfair.

Undo

@rlemon both of them stepped down years ago

;)

rlemon

19:36

found Kevs post

I thought slaks was (still) a mod :shrugs:

hichris123

@Undo My cookies got messed up after the dev server went to SSL.

Undo

awww :(

hichris123

actually, hold on.

rene

we need your cookies

Roombatron5000

wow, 200 reviews in HIQ

hichris123

19:45

Yeah, not letting me into any of the dev sites.

bjb568

29 candidates, where's the list of who'll be pushed off?

hichris123

@rene gluten free?

bjb568

no

hichris123

19 hours ago, by AstroCB

Kick list (I won't bother pinging anymore):
1. Ty221
2. Wobbuffet
3. Me
4. bjb568
5. hichris123
6. Unihedro
7. Undo
8. AlexisKing
9. Mooseman

rene

@hichris123 no, any dev cookie will do

hichris123

19:46

@rlemon Yeah, I'm currently redoing this... but it's in PHP... :/

bjb568

Wobbuffet only has 4k? wow

rlemon

I'm so sorry

hichris123

:P

And I'm not allowed to use PDO -- still using mysql_*.

bjb568

Are there any candidates who might be willing to withdraw for the betterment of the group?

There was that one guy, right…

hichris123

@rene Oh okay. We need @animuson then for gluten free cookies.

bjb568

19:47

The election page is a mess.

rlemon

Dan withdrew.. but I think that was for other political reasons.

@bjb568 comments need to collapse, like fully. not just when they spill over X comments

would make navigating the page easier

bjb568

@rlemon yes

I think fixed width layout is severely constraining the info density. The page is too long.

rene

@hichris123 we can put him on the close vote queue again but I'm afraid Shog9 will not allow that...

hichris123

@rene He's handling team@ emails now (I think) so I wouldn't want to burn him out more.

Roombatron5000

@bjb568 wonder if wooble will run again

rene

19:53

@hichris123 Oh...we need to send him cookies...a lot...

hichris123

Hey, anyone have @animuson's address?

bjb568

@Roombatron5000 wooooooble

I like saying that.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBLE

woobleywoobleywoobleyday!

Undo

@hichris123 I'd imagine it's <lastname>@stack(exchange|overflow).com

hichris123

@Undo I meant actual address... :P

Undo

Oh

:P

hichris123

19:55

(virtual cookies aren't the same)

Roombatron5000

@hichris123 contact SE HR?

Undo

Found a city/state

hichris123

@Roombatron5000 "Hi uh... I wanted to give an employee named animuson ... that's a n i m u s o n ... yes, um what's his address? I wanted to send him a cookie."

user259867

@hichris123 They wouldn't arrive today, I'm afraid.

hichris123

@pizza Never underestimate UPS Critical shipments.

or whatever that service is called.

Undo

19:58

Priority?

I could build a big cannon, that'd work too

although getting sprayed with supersonic finely crushed cookie pieces probably isn't quite the same

rlemon

$('.comments').each(function(index, element) {
  var button = $('<button>toggle comments</button>');
  var $element = $(element);
  button.on('click', $element.slideToggle.bind($element));
  $element.hide().parent().append(button);
});

user259867

There's Amazon wishlist, a more sensible way imo.

rlemon

ugly, hacky, jQuery, works. cc @bjb568 ^

hichris123

UPS Express Critical

bjb568

@rlemon ugh

rlemon

20:00

I'm not spending more than 2 minutes on something to hide election comments :P

Roombatron5000

@pizza maybe he should narrow that list down a bit?

Undo

> Note: This service is not available at locations of The UPS Store®, UPS Drop Boxes, UPS Customer Centers, Staples® or Office Depot®, or UPS Authorized Shipping Outlets.

So, er, where is it available?

jadarnel27

UPS Interwebz®

Oh, and brown.

user259867

It's been years since I used Amazon wishlist... why is it trying to ship the items to me?

Anonymous

@Shog9 I have a vague memory of seeing a test election with some amusing candidate choices. However, I'm not sure if it was just something dreamed, and the uncertainty is nagging at me. That's all.

Shog9

20:15

given those are test servers it's entirely possible you saw folks testing stuff

Anonymous

This does sound like a dream, as I describe it: I was one of the test candidates. The other may have been @TimStone. I was kicking myself because the test election ended right before I saw the page, so if I'd been there a couple days earlier I would have been able to cast the only vote in the election, for myself, winning the election. I expect mod promotion is actually manual, but I at least hoped there was a chance that it was automatic, and I would have thereby been granted mod access on dev.

Anonymous

I apparently didn't have the presence of mind to take a screenshot, if this actually ever happened.

rene

The test was to see how people respond if they are given a chance to become mod on any site, even on dev... the test results are in and not public...

Jason C

@JeremyBanks NO. THIS DID NOT HAPPEN.

@Shog9 (Quick! #14294-A is remembering. We need to take him to the reconditioning center immediately.)

Anonymous

When I was 14, I sent an email to the owners of a commercial forum I participated in, asking if they every hired people under 18 as moderators. They never replied, but I had a dream that they did, saying yes. For at least six months, maybe longer, I thought the email had been real, until one day I finally searched for it.

Anonymous

20:28

@JasonC Unless that email was actually real, but they didn't want me to be a moderator, so they hacked my email and deleted it!

bjb568

huh

kewl story bro

Jason C

@JeremyBanks NO. WE DID NOT HACK YOUR EMAIL.

I mean, haha word, that's a funny dream.

bjb568

20:43

hehe reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/31vfy3/…

Undo

@JeremyBanks hah, that's great

I almost got recruited as a moderator when I was like 12.

They emailed me and said they wanted me on board and asked how old I was. I said 12 and never heard from them again.

Anonymous

@Undo Aww. =P

Anonymous

I guess, since that's less than 13, they had the excuse of "legal reasons" for avoiding you.

Undo

actually, more "sweep it under the rug so we don't have to COPPA him"

bjb568

:p

I was fortunate enough to realize that I was born in 1980.

A nice round number.

That's more than 13 years ago.

Alexis King

20:51

@Undo I rewrote some guy's website from scratch a few years ago free of charge only because I was disgusted with how awful it was. I was probably, what, 15 or 16? It was sort of an adult website. xD He still has no idea that what I was doing was probably illegal, lol.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: CAN MY PASSPORT BE DENIED IF LOST MORE THAN THREE TIMES by STAR on travel.stackexchange.com

Undo

lol

Tim Stone

@JeremyBanks I had a dream that I was at Stack Exchange's holiday party. I wasn't even an employee, just there for some reason.

5

Alexis King

@TimStone Was it a good party at least?

Undo

@TimStone Must be a sign of things to come

Tim Stone

20:54

@AlexisKing It was okay. I don't think much happened.

Anonymous

@TimStone Haha. :P

Anonymous

/me consults a map of the United States to see how far from their office you actually are.

Anonymous

Kind-of far.

Tim Stone

Just a train ride, it's not too bad.

Anonymous

Not sleepwalking distance.

Braiam

20:55

@TimStone did you meet Trogdor or saw any pony?

Tim Stone

I did not. :(

Braiam

it wasn't a dream then... but a nightmare :/

Alexis King

@TimStone Did Shog stand on any tables?

Tim Stone

Someone did, so we'll assume it was him

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