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Jason C

9:00 PM

You guys have such realistic dreams. Last night all I did was turn into a cartoon cat and run down a big hill. I also have vague memories of cows bouncing on trampolines.

bjb568

I don't remember any dreams in the last 3 years.

Alexis King

14 hours ago, by Jason C

@AlexisKing That's pretty deep. Pass me whatever you're smoking.

Jason C

Well played.

Anonymous

FWIW, much of that which one may hypothetically be smoking reduces the intensity of dreams, rather than increasing it.

Shog9

@bjb568 you are a lot older than you act.

7

bjb568

9:05 PM

:p

I love reddit reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/31vfy3/…

Jason C

@bjb568 That's awesome.

user259867

That's disgusting.

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user259867

NAA, not spam

user259867

> Some days I want to ban most of china from hitting our network due to raw percentage of compromised machines. Okay, most days. -- Nick Craver at 1:58 PM - 8 Apr 2015 via Twitter

Jason C

9:16 PM

Mar 29 at 19:04, by Jason C

Yeah... the auto IP blacklist on my mail server is slowly blocking all of China.

And all the github ddos suspicions have been growing too.

bjb568

hehe reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/31vfy3/…

Doorknob

... is that a reply to another comment?

how do I see the other comment?

Undo

Doorknob

this Reddit interface is horrible

bjb568

d00d, what a kewl constant! It's like not even constant! — bjb568 11 secs ago

Undo

9:19 PM

^ @bjb568 Are you sure you're a kitten and not a bobcat?

bjb568

@Doorknob agree

@Undo not mutually exclusive

Undo

okay, rephrased: Are you sure you're a domestic house-cat-type kitten and not a bobcat?

Jason C

@Doorknob Click "parent"; below comment, rightmost choice.

bjb568

@Undo no

Doorknob

@JasonC oh

user259867

9:22 PM

@bjb568 Once, when I was a TA, I tried to explain to a calculus class what the general antiderivative of log|cos x| is (it's not -tan(x)+C). Never again.

Jason C

@Undo Still not mutually exclusive.

bjb568

@pizza lel log

Oh, antiderivitive.

Huh, why would they think that?

Don't they have to memorize derive of tan is sec^2?

user259867

@bjb568 I got it backwards, of course.

bjb568

What's a pirate's least favorite letter?

Well, that's a bit more complicated

Jason C

Haha, the comments on reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/31txu6/…

hichris123

9:27 PM

Gah, I hate single quotes.

user259867

'spam' android.stackexchange.com/a/104897

hichris123

Dealing with hidden inputs right now...

The Wobbuffet

What kinds of games do programmers play other than Nethack

bjb568

not much here

hichris123

@pizza but they look nice!

bjb568

9:28 PM

I like tentacle wars.

Jason C

I really can't get used to the android theme.

Anonymous

@TheWobbuffet Stack Exchange.

The Wobbuffet

I play a lot of super smash bros for wii u

Ixrec

@TheWobbuffet when I have time, I play Halo and indie platformers

Jason C

Lately I've been spending a ton of time blowing through rpg's on super nintendo and PS2.

The Wobbuffet

9:29 PM

I wish I had a cent for every hour I played that game

user259867

@bjb568 Yes, I got it backwards. Should be antiderivative of tan(x). Which WA claims to be -log(cos(x)) + constant. But this constant is only constant on the intervals separated by the vertical asymptotes of the tangent. There are infinitely many constants to choose.

The Wobbuffet

@JasonC have you played earthbound? that's like the only snes rpg i can think of other than pokemon

Jason C

@TheWobbuffet Yeah I love that game.

bjb568

@pizza oh

Jason C

Actually I just went through it about, maybe 3 or 4 weeks ago.

user259867

9:30 PM

While we're at it, another answer there is also spam.

The Wobbuffet

@Ixrec I chose to get a wii u rather than an xbox, because... super smash bros

user259867

spam android.stackexchange.com/a/60365

The Wobbuffet

@JasonC Have you played mother 3? If so, I love you

Ixrec

@TheWobbuffet I'm always tempted to buy a Wii U for the Metroid Prime trilogy

hasn't quite happened yet

Jason C

@TheWobbuffet It's been on my list for a looong time but I haven't played it. I feel like I somehow let you down here.

The Wobbuffet

9:32 PM

@Ixrec I've never played a metroid game before, though I can because I'm in the ambassador program on my 3ds

bjb568

The Wobbuffet

@JasonC :( trust me, it's better than earthbound

Jason C

@TheWobbuffet Super Metroid is freakin' awesome.

Ixrec

@TheWobbuffet I'm a big fan of Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion, Metroid: Zero Mission and all three Metroid Primes

Jason C

I have tons of memories of staying up all night in the summer with my friends playing that game when it came out.

Ixrec

9:33 PM

Metroid Fusion I think I played to completion literally dozens of times as a teenager

The Wobbuffet

Well nintendo gave me metroid for buying my 3ds overpriced. is it worth playing it

Jason C

Well, it's a classic.

Alexis King

@TheWobbuffet Is Mother 4 out yet?

Ixrec

@TheWobbuffet Which one? The original NES Metroid?

The Wobbuffet

@AlexisKing the fan-made version? i don't think so

Jason C

9:34 PM

Aw man I'm getting all nostalgic. But I gotta run, later all.

The Wobbuffet

@Ixrec yeah, the very first one

Alexis King

@TheWobbuffet You're right, it's coming out this summer, apparently.

It looks really great, though.

The Wobbuffet

I understand it's a classic, but... it seems too low-res for me

what's going on with the chat sending things twice?

Ixrec

personally I can't recommend the original Metroid, the later installments are just so much better

The Wobbuffet

@AlexisKing yeah. Though it won't have a better story than mother 3 imo

Ixrec

9:36 PM

slow movement, no diagonal shooting, no map, no clear tutorials/HUD/story, etc

Alexis King

@Ixrec Super Metroid definitely blows NES Metroid out of the water.

The Wobbuffet

well i get all the games litsed here. Honestly, fire emblem is sooo boring

Ixrec

> Metroid Fusion

play it

Alexis King

@TheWobbuffet I have friends that love it, but I agree, I've never found it that captivating.

Ixrec

I played a big chunk of Fire Emblem way back when it was new; I enjoyed it a lot but somewhere around level 40(?) I felt I'd had enough

The Wobbuffet

9:39 PM

Yeah man, it's sooo boring being the commander

Ixrec

for me it was just too long

and my reaction to the permadeath mechanics was to save scum; I may have shot myself in the foot there

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Ixrec

Kirby & the Amazing Mirror is cool if you have any interest in 2d metroidvania platformers (it's not very hard, imo it's the good, relaxing kind of "casual")

rest of the list I'm not familiar with

The Wobbuffet

I've played kirby superstar ultra

my friend said ridley ate samus's parents. Did the makers of Super Metroid make up the story on the spot or something?

if i was to write a story, i wouldn't start it out with a dragon coming to my house and eating my parents

rlemon

I should probably test changes before I publish them

:(

Ixrec

9:44 PM

he didn't eat them, but he was in the Space Pirate raid that killed them iirc

bjb568

reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/31vntq/…

Ixrec

for some reason I once read the official e-manga that covers this...

The Wobbuffet

Space Pirates? lol... what is this

so a bunch of space pirates raided earth or something?

Ixrec

you know, the plot of (almost) every Metroid game is Space Pirates trying to harness the power of the Metroids to take over the galaxy and Samus Aran has to go kill them all

The Wobbuffet

are the metroids the jellyfishes

Ixrec

9:45 PM

what do you expect from a series that started in the NES era? =P

yes

The Wobbuffet

the jellyfishes harness what power

Ixrec

if you really want me to ramble on about this...

they eat the life force of pretty much any living thing they come across; the way they do this is not well understood and the Space Pirates in particular are convinced if they can tame/domesticate/breed Metroids they'd have an unstoppable army

The Wobbuffet

don't worry, i'll read about it online

nvm, i'll just play the game :P

Ixrec

lol

The Wobbuffet

not the original... super metroid

i'd like to learn more about space pirates trying to harness the power of jellyfishes

Ixrec

9:49 PM

yep, that's the plot in Super Metroid too

Metroid Fusion and the later Primes focus on other stuff

the first Metroid Prime had a lot of lore about this actually; you can read a bunch of experiment logs where they mention how many pirates died trying to test this or that weapon or last time one of them tried to keep a metroid as a pet

The Wobbuffet

do you think they were trying to make a game that girls would buy, and did it work?

Ixrec

considering her gender was a spoiler in the original game, no

The Wobbuffet

what do you mean her gender was a spoiler?

Ixrec

in the original Metroid you don't find out Samus is female until the cutscenes/credits after the final boss

I've heard the manual even used male pronouns to hide it

The Wobbuffet

wow

bjb568

9:53 PM

Get a room, you two.

Ixrec

he keeps asking questions!

The Wobbuffet

@bjb568 sorry, we're done :P

bjb568

:P

The Wobbuffet

heh i tried to end it earlier, but it was too late... you had answered, which had arisen followup questions

Ixrec

silly video game plots are more interesting than they should be

Braiam

9:54 PM

everything is too late when it's too late

The Wobbuffet

i remember a while back the wheel of blame link went to the broken one i made :P now it's fixed, but meh... room owners are too hesitant to change the link to my fixed version

Ixrec

I assumed that was a deliberate in-joke...

The Wobbuffet

what was?

Ixrec

the blame wheel always saying the same guy

bjb568

heh

hichris123

9:58 PM

Dark themes (IDE, text editor) look nice when it's going to rain.

The Wobbuffet

lol... no, it was a messup in my code that you could get around by refreshing the page :P anyway, it's fixed with the latest version. You know what's interesting? I never noticed you until now

bjb568

@hichris123 and all the other times

hichris123

@bjb568 well yeah but especially now.

rlemon

cough anyone using my dark theme... yea I may have messed it up with a fat finger update this aft.

am fixing now

hichris123

What a coincidence... @rlemon talks about a dark theme right after I do. :P

user259867

9:59 PM

Out in a field, not another car for miles, silence but for the rain drumming on the sunroof, warm thick folds of the blanket hiding wordless fingertip games ...

rlemon

@hichris123 not a coincidence at all. you reminded me

hichris123

ah. :P

The Wobbuffet

jsfiddle.net/AYPpF/138/embedded/result <- I recovered the link by looking in the transcript. Anyway, someone debugged this with me... was it hichris or bjb?

hichris123

so let's get back to that PHP. :D

... or not. :P

The Wobbuffet

ARRghg, why do i have to wait so long for hostgator to open one port

user259867

10:04 PM

@SmokeDetector fp

SmokeDetector

@pizza Registered answer as false positive.

user259867

@TheWobbuffet If the bolted wheel is stuck, there is another solution... BlameBot!

rlemon

what did it hit on?

bjb568

@TheWobbuffet I vaguely remember it

user259867

@rlemon "black magic". A pretty weak keyword.

The Wobbuffet

10:05 PM

what is blamebot

rlemon

wow.

user259867

@TheWobbuffet A bot using the logic of your wheel (and perhaps more) that blames Taverners for things.

user259867

Bonus points if it has enough AI to post on its own.

The Wobbuffet

Link to it?

user259867

This is a proposal. :)

The Wobbuffet

10:06 PM

oh

yeah, i'll make that

or were you going to make it? i is confuze

user259867

I'm unlikely to do anything like that.

The Wobbuffet

k, i'll make it sometime in the future.

rlemon

6-8 weeks

user259867

Sometime between now and 2100 is fine.

The Wobbuffet

yeah, i'm busy making other stuff atm but i can probably dedicate some hour to making it

what's really annoying is that i have to learn geometry by the end of the month after next month

Ixrec

10:11 PM

@SmokeDetector fp

user259867

@SmokeDetector fp slang discussion

SmokeDetector

@pizza Registered answer as false positive.

The Wobbuffet

i'll start it right now but I gtg around 5:30

user259867

@TheWobbuffet Disregard bots, acquire knowledge of geometry

The Wobbuffet

i'm usually overwhelmed with homework on weekdays, and I spend an immense amount of time studying geometry on weekends

but today i don't have that much homework so it won't hurt to stay a little bit longer

Jason C

10:15 PM

Do suggested edit reviews, when not done through the actual review queue interface, still count as review tasks for badges?

The Wobbuffet

have no idea

user259867

@JasonC Yes. For example, this is how users under 500 rep get a badge for reviewing -- approving an edit to their own question.

Ixrec

10:26 PM

@pizza Is that also true of badges like Reviewer which have the "only once per review type" stipulation? Or just the badges for approving/denying X edits?

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user259867

@SmokeDetector tpu SPAM

SmokeDetector

@pizza Blacklisted user.

bjb568

ROSES ARE RED 2

►

lel

Ixrec

@SmokeDetector tpu

user259867

10:28 PM

@Ixrec Something's up with your SD privilege, cc: @hichris123

hichris123

!!/status

Ixrec

I think you just beat me to it

SmokeDetector

@hichris123 Running since 17:49:26 UTC (279 minutes)

hichris123

@pizza Smokey doesn't like edits.

Ixrec

yeah, I keep forgetting it has to be a response, not a mention

hichris123

10:29 PM

See CE:79.

user259867

@Ixrec The point it, approving or rejecting an edit from question page counts as a review. It appears on the user's list of reviews. Badges are a byproduct of that list: once you have enough items there, you get the badge.

user259867

Notice how many Custodian badges are given to low-rep users.

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Alexis King

@pizza Whaat? How can a 3-rep user review suggested edits?

user259867

@AlexisKing On their own posts, they can.

Alexis King

10:37 PM

Ah, okay, that makes more sense.

user259867

Should close votes not through /review count towards badges? -- interesting post by some Jason C.

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ

@SmokeDetector fp

Jason C

@pizza For some reason I have a feeling that I'm going to drop back below 5k rep with that one. I don't know why.

user259867

@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ No need to respond to all-caps unless they are spam. They get implicity "ignore" command by default.

user259867

@JasonC I upvoted, not because I want them to count but because it's an interesting point. I review a lot more CVs than my puny <4000 count suggests... because I grab posts with close votes through the API and vote from question pages.

Jason C

10:41 PM

@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ ^ Plus you can't really fp the all-caps filter, since it's objective, although you can fpu/tpu to whitelist/blacklist users if the situation calls for it.

user259867

It says I reviewed 3 posts today... but I used up all 50 CVs, and not on random posts, either.

SmokeDetector

@pizza It's pizza's fault.

@SmokeDetector It's pizza's fault.

user259867

@SmokeDetector Borkey?

Undo

... oops :P

That may or may not have been my fault

:P

if ev_room == GlobalVars.meta_tavern_room_id:

^ NOT ENOUGH conditions :P

hichris123

One last close vote needed: Remove thumbs.db file from the images folder

Undo

10:43 PM

linky?

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

@Undo It's SmokeDetector's fault.

Undo

test

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

@Undo It's hichris123's fault.

Undo

>:D

It takes users that have talked in the room while it's been alive and chooses randomly

hichris123

Stop blaming me!

:P

user259867

10:44 PM

@TheWobbuffet The proposed BlameBot has been cannibalized by Smokey ^.

user259867

Go back to geometry. :P

Undo

He still has time to build it while I push to GH and CI runs :P

hichris123

@Undo ahaha

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/29519198/…

@Undo that was what was on my clipboard already. :P

Thanks @alexis.

Alexis King

@hichris123 Anytime. ;)

Undo

there, !!/blame is live

Note that if you use it, your name gets put in the list before a user to blame is chosen randomly from that list - so no one's immune >:D

user259867

10:48 PM

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

@pizza It's Alexis King's fault.

Alexis King

aww :(

user259867

Nice and simple. Until Jason C notices the lack of documentation.

Undo

oh crap

Err what lack? :P

user259867

!!/commands

Undo

10:51 PM

weird, it looks like it dropped the Tavern again

!!/commands

Hrm

oh, we took out !!/commands

!!/about

!!/help

SmokeDetector

@Undo I'm SmokeDetector, a bot that detects spam and low-quality posts on the network and posts alerts to chat. A command list is available here.

Undo

^ It's in that link now

user259867

Cool.

user259867

!!/apiquota

SmokeDetector

@pizza 7508

user259867

10:53 PM

Is this the quota used or remaining?

Undo

Yeah, for fetching answer bodies

Oh, remaining

user259867

But we're one hour away from the end of UTC day. When does it roll over?

Undo

UTC Midnight IIRC

user259867

So, Smokey used only 25% of the quota so far? Strange.

user259867

!!/queuestatus

user259867

10:56 PM

@Undo I was never able to get this command to run ^

Undo

IIRC the queue is usually too big to put in a chat message, or something like that

user259867

OK, that makes sense with 140+ sites...

user259867

The Wiki lists obsolete !!/commands

user259867

(I know... I don't have a GH account still...)

Undo

@pizza fixed

SmokeDetector

11:36 PM

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user259867

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@pizza Blacklisted user.

hichris123

Russian on ELU? :P

user259867

@hichris123 "I found a super-cool blog about English"

user259867

But yes, wrong audience.

The Wobbuffet

11:49 PM

so smokey got an upgrade? well at least i see my idea has made its way :P

user259867

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

@pizza It's hichris123's fault.

user259867

He again. >;$

Doorknob

I want it to blame itself

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

@Doorknob It's Doorknob's fault.

Doorknob

11:51 PM

glares

user259867

> fun fact it's physically impossible to edit an android intent-filter and actually know what you're doing -- Rock The Kasra at 2:24 PM - 8 Apr 2015 via Twitter

Jason C

Do you think you should tell the call center that you are unequipped to handle their request? — Mathemats 13 mins ago

Posts like the one that comment is on make me sad.

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