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Mooseman

3:03 PM

I work with lasers

Laser pointers.

...and @bjb chases them.

hichris123

People still use Notepad++? Eeek.

Why Eeek?

It's... Notepad++...

yeah, why Eeek?

A bit on the ugly + not easy to use side.

> Upon closer examination of the data, a trend emerges: Developers increasingly prefer spaces as they gain experience. Stack Overflow reputation correlates with a preference for spaces, too: users who have 10,000 rep or more prefer spaces to tabs at a ratio of 3 to 1.

Bart

3:08 PM

I don't see how it's not easy to use. And plenty of nifty plugins as well.

Mooseman

^^

Bart

I guess I can't vote for you as a mod then @hichris123.

bluefeet

^^^ this

hichris123

I retract my earlier statement then.

Unihedro

Notepad++ is the reason there can be great software.

bluefeet

3:09 PM

@hichris123 flip-flopper

hichris123

PRESS RELEASE (for immediate publication): hichris123 is accepting of all text editors.

Jon Ericson

@bjb568 I think what happens next depends on how serious you are about running for moderator. Most criticism of moderators isn't removed from sight whether it is fair or not. The position demands that you respond to complaints directly and honestly. So it feels awkward to remove pointed comments even if rooted in past history.

7

Unihedro

^^ wise words

hichris123

@bluefeet I have Notepad++ installed on one computer. So I guess I don't hate it that much. :P

user259867

@bjb568 I don't think mods can moderate the election page; that's for CMs to handle. Election room chat is one way to bring stuff to their attention.

hichris123

3:11 PM

Interesting: PHP developers always had the lowest salaries.

Mooseman

@hichris123 PHP is an effect, not the cause.

hichris123

wait wait wait -- the survey summary page was built with unicorn tears? I think we need HR to look into this!

Bart

UR.

hichris123

@Mooseman huh. As you become more enlightened, you move away from PHP? :P

@Bart You haven't used it recently!

Jon Ericson

I don't like the vague "well known history of abuse" in that comment, however. Comments aren't really the best place to ask questions of candidates. I'd recommend updating your nomination if you have anything to say about how you have grown as a user, @bjb568. I think that's the issue Benjamin is trying to draw out of you.

Bart

3:14 PM

@hichris123 your Notepad++ statement got me pretty close.

hichris123

lol @TimStone broke elections.SE: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/289554/…

Mooseman

@hichris123 Bad developers are PHP developers, but PHP developers aren't bad developers.

*necessarily

Undo

cv-plz sr stackoverflow.com/q/9767114/1849664

Tim Stone

@hichris123 Uh oh

hichris123

@Bart I love all text editors, including (but not limited to): Notepad++, Emacs, Vi{m}, Sublime Text, and Atom.

Undo

3:16 PM

> Uncaught ReferenceError: StackExchange is not defined

hichris123

@TimStone yeah maybe you need that feed for the [elections] tag...

Jon Ericson

@hichris123 I can't vote for a developer who cares so little about his choice of tools.

3

Mooseman

Notepad++ is by far the best text editor, imo. VS is a good IDE.

hichris123

@JonEricson I'm accepting of all though!

I never said I would use them all, however. :P

ProgramFOX

Feb 16 at 18:02, by Doorknob

@LynnCrumbling One does not simply mention Vim and Emacs in the same sentence (and/or group of messages)

:p

Bart

3:17 PM

@hichris123 a sign of weakness

Unihedro

@hichris123 Vim and Emacs in the same sentence? -10 charisma :(

hichris123

@Bart What, I can't be accepting of both glasses and cats, hmm? I see how it is!

Bart

@hichris123 glasses. Simple choice.

hichris123

How about spectacles?

Bart

Everyone likes a good spectacle.

Undo

3:19 PM

@Sam Higher rep users use spaces, therefore spaces are better

hichris123

@Unihedro @ProgramFOX I mentioned Emacs & Vi{m} in the same sentence. There's a difference! :P

Sam

@Undo Yeah, I saw the paragraph.

Undo

@hichris123 nah, that matches Emacs & Vim :P

Bart

@Undo my tabs auto-convert to spaces ...

Unihedro

@Undo spaces r truth

minitech

3:21 PM

The only correct indentation is four spaces followed by one tab

4

Bart

@minitech has spoken

Tim Stone

@minitech With tab width set to 2 in the editor preferences. You are a monster.

minitech

Really, though, it’s the best of every world. Two spaces in there? Check. Four spaces? Check. A tab? Check. Eight characters wide? Check.

Patrick Hofman

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/29493745/… (repeat)

hichris123

@PatrickHofman closed

Undo

3:28 PM

While we're at it, go close stackoverflow.com/questions/9767114/… too :P

Patrick Hofman

@hichris123 thanks. my possible soon-to-be-favorite-mod ;)

Mooseman

I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's about installing/using Ubuntu, rather than programming. — Mooseman 1 min ago

Undo

yeah

cv-plz software stackoverflow.com/q/28914606/1849664

Patrick Hofman

@Mooseman You might want to work on your wording.

bluefeet

@PatrickHofman I might agree with that

Roombatron5000

3:34 PM

7

Q: Should we close bug reports that are tagged [status-completed]?

I came across this bug report that was closed after it has been tagged status-completed. It looks like a perfectly fine bug report to me, but somehow it was closed as off-topic. Take a look at the close reason: The problem described here can no longer be reproduced. Changes to the system or ...

Mooseman

status-completed

Roombatron5000

My answer: No

hichris123

@PatrickHofman lol thanks. :)

Braiam

@Mooseman tl;dr cv-pls [tag:ubuntu-*]

bluefeet

@Mooseman you technically could have voted to close that as possibly being on-topic on SuperUser instead of a custom close reason

Mooseman

3:38 PM

@bluefeet I was considering that. But wouldn't it be better suited for Ask Ubuntu?

Unihedro

any clue how to recover my sidebar?

Undo

This is why I can't ever have a datacap

Mooseman

Does anybody have a link to the data.se query to find posts eligible for reaching the sportsmanship badge? Thanks!

Undo

@Mooseman Just a second

Bart

@Mooseman data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/65821/…

Undo

3:40 PM

@Mooseman data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/295957/…

bah

Mooseman

lol thanks

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: R PROGRAMMING: NEIGHBOUR'S LIST FOR SPATIALPOINTS by ike on stackoverflow.com

vaultah

Edited

Andy

based on the user name, this seems spammy: stackoverflow.com/a/29495465/189134

Undo

flagged

user259867

3:46 PM

gone

Mooseman

> You haven't voted on questions in a while; questions need votes too!

xD

user259867

> 10000 rep Stack Overflow users earn 35% more than average stackoverflow.com/research/developer-survey-2015 … pic.twitter.com/Rl46ij3qiG -- Joel Spolsky at 8:01 AM - 7 Apr 2015 via Twitter

hichris123

@bjb568 Ah so that's how Shog lost his body, see: hat testing.

user259867

@hichris123 That one is familiar from Twitter, this is previously unreleased material. (As in, I haven't seen it elsewhere).

hichris123

> A younger sister commented, " you look Amish, except you have ears" (apparently Amish men tend to have shaggy hair covering their ears... which would have described me over winter).

Roombatron5000

3:53 PM

so is it 2 new mods for election? if so, i think it should be 3 , since animuson won't have the same role/time on SO anymore. So if only 2, it's net effect of like 1 or even 0.75 new mods if they aren't as good as animuson. 3 new mods it should be

Bart

It's 3.

hichris123

@Roombatron5000 They're all replacements.

Shog9

The Replacements (band)

The Replacements are an American rock band formed in Minneapolis, Minnesota, in 1979, and are considered pioneers of alternative rock. The band was composed of the guitarist and vocalist Paul Westerberg, guitarist Bob Stinson, bass guitarist Tommy Stinson and drummer Chris Mars for most of its career. Following several critically acclaimed albums, including Let It Be and Tim, Bob Stinson left the band in 1986 and the band experienced several line-up changes; Slim Dunlap joined as lead guitarist and Steve Foley replaced Mars in 1990. Towards the end of the band's career, Westerberg exerted more...

hichris123

So I'm wondering now, @Shog9: did you grow up in Minnesota?

Shog9

what makes you wonder?

Undo

3:59 PM

oh great, we've moved on from stalking bjb to stalking shog

This will end well

hichris123

@Shog9 Well, for instance flickr.com/photos/shog9/60234784 + what you just linked.

Shog9

that's some fine detective work there

Roombatron5000

@hichris123 ? so more than animuson left/is leaving?

Shog9

in fact, I was born in that bridge, and spent the first 30 years of my life living under it

Jon Ericson

@Roombatron5000 Hired.

Undo

4:00 PM

@SmokeDetector fpu

SmokeDetector

@Undo Registered question as false positive, whitelisted user and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

Bart

@Shog9 your head, like tumbleweed, blown across the country ...

Shog9

just like that

hichris123

@Shog9 So you were the Grumpy Old Troll, eh?

in Stack Overflow 2015 Moderator Election Chat on Stack Overflow Chat, 20 hours ago, by bluefeet

two mods have left and one will be announced after the election

Roombatron5000

:o

Bart

4:05 PM

Does the last one know?

4

hichris123

@Shog9 Well, it all depends on your definition of the midwest...

Shog9

let's start simple: what's your definition for "the"

Bart

^ I guess we've established the "troll" part ... now as for grumpy and old ...

3

hichris123

@Shog9 We should let bjb's bot define it!

!comp the

bjb568

determiner | definite article; used before a noun to denote one specific, unique, or outstanding instance of that noun

Shog9

4:09 PM

in that case, I'm from "the midwest" insofar as I'm from "the best" midwest.

Roombatron5000

Blog - Stack Exchange: Stack Overflow Developer Survey 2015: The Results

Sam Brand on April 07, 2015

Every year we ask our users to tell us a little about themselves. This year we asked our users to tell us a lot.

For 2 weeks in February 2015, we ran a 45 question survey. We asked where you live, what programming languages & frameworks you use, how much money you make, how much coffee you drink, and whether you prefer tabs or spaces when writing code. More than 26,000 of you responded, making this year’s survey quite possibly the most authoritative developer survey ever conducted.

A few findings: …

hichris123

@Shog9 Yes, but what is your definition of midwest? See, that's where we get into trouble...

Shog9

not at all east, and not at all California

hichris123

How about the great plains?

Shog9

how 'bout them great plains?

pretty great, eh?

pretty plain too

hichris123

4:13 PM

Are they now?

Are they in the midwest, @Shog9?

Shog9

some of them are

vaultah

Is this NAA?

hichris123

Hrm, we need a Maps.SE site so I can ask "What states make up the midwest?"

vaultah

Basically every answer which contains "I would put this into comment if I had enough reputations" looks like NAA to me

Andy

@hichris123 Let's just ask Google

google.com/…

It presents a nice picture for you too

ProgramFOX

4:17 PM

!comp What states make up the midwest?

hm, botling doesn't know

Google > @bjb568

Yo

Oy

Why is this year's election so much fun?

Roombatron5000

4:19 PM

I want to move to Hooters!

Jason C

@Roombatron5000 Man, PA should have gotten Heinz.

hichris123

@Andy Yeah but people (and floating heads) are irrational. My definition of the midwest would not include ND, SD, Nebraska, and Kansas.

Unihedro

???

hichris123

wait, Iowa?

Unihedro

My sidebar appears when i load the page, then immagiately dies

hichris123

4:20 PM

...

Jason C

SVGs don't one-box :(

Sam

@Unihedro Extension(s)? Userscript(s)?

Unihedro

websocket listener & Madara's script that embeds pics in the starscript in a bar, I've tried disabling them

And lemon's chat plugin doesn't work on chat.meta.SE yet

hichris123

7

A: Change Chat Oneboxing to recognize SVGs

Fair point, and easy enough. Added to the next build. Of course (as with the other image types), this only looks at file extensions, and just assumes if the URL ends with .svg (or .jpg etc.) that it's an image.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: Web To Lead is not creating Leads in Salesforce by Nandhu on salesforce.stackexchange.com

Mooseman

4:24 PM

@SmokeDetector del

Jason C

Oh yeah, it's because I'm retarded.

Mooseman

No that was a png

Jason C

Yeah, but that's an SVG ^, and I'm still a retard.

Mooseman

Parameters break it.

Unless you use the ! anyways:

Jason C

I was linking to the wikipedia viewer page (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midwestern_United_States#/media/…), not the image itself.

Mooseman

4:27 PM

~~But that's enough unicorns~~ said no one ever.

Jason C

No one ever said "but that's enough unicorns" and then no one didn't?

Unihedro

4:45 PM

in Maid Café (メイド喫茶) on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 1 min ago, by Hakase

Site Exchange could be users from site A telling users from site B what they know and how topic A connects with topic B, basically listing all possible points of interests users B can have in A (the opposite happens simultaneously)

anyone like the idea?

Jan Dvorak

interesting

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: How can I make a screenshot (printscreen) on my Macbook Pro using Windows 7? by Lorri on apple.stackexchange.com

Jason C

Is there a way to get the count of answer votes vs question votes for a user from SEDE? The stat that's display under "votes -> by type" on the profile page.

Pham

Spam A (TPA'd by Mooseman): Please contact me @ pickett@conwaycorp.net JCP, by □ JCP, on stats.stackexchange.com.

user259867

@Pham gone.

user259867

4:58 PM

@SmokeDetector gone

user259867

@JasonC No, this information is not in SEDE. Is user's breakdown of votes per Q/A available on Data Explorer?

Jason C

Thanks

ProgramFOX

5:13 PM

@SmokeDetector gone

Pham

Low Quality A (TPA'd by Undo): I've the same problem, if someone have any solution ..., by □ Brice, on android.stackexchange.com.

bjb568

@JonEricson no chars left…

@JonEricson I guess it's a difficult situation. So the comments won't be removed?

Unihedro

@bjb568 unless you withdraw the post.

bjb568

Ok

not doing that

Unihedro

Then the comments will stay, fair or not; The only way to override it is with your goodwill :)

bjb568

5:23 PM

> I think we have a clash of rhetorics here. While one side takes a more lighthearted approach, the other side takes things more serious. As a matter of fact, I can live with both. Some people who need some guidance need a (more or less friendly) kick in their behinds to move to the right direction, others need benevolent, calm and/or polite advice. So my question would be: Granted you have a history and granted it is past, by which signs would you distinguish those two types I mentioned today?

WTH is he asking?

Unihedro

@bjb568 Whether you're the kind of person who needs a kick in the right direction or you work better with benevolent, calm and/or polite advice.

Jon Ericson

@bjb568 So I think part of the concern with your nomination as it stands is that it doesn't help us know what sort of moderator you will be. You used a lot of your characters to, well, make jokes. It would be a lot stronger if you cut that stuff out and told us more about your platform.

Unihedro

If you want more than that, you'd have to try to understand the entire thing.

Jan Dvorak

BJB definitely needs to be kicked

3

bjb568

@Unihedro "don't kick the kat"

Hay

@JonEricson come on I got a C in English 2nd quarter

Jason C

5:25 PM

@bjb568 He's basically asking what Uni just said, but in a more meta way. Instead of directly asking "which type of candidate are you", I think he's asking "how would you tell the difference between those two types of candidates" and hoping to judge what type you are based on your response to that.

bjb568

Ah ok

Jason C

It's kind of an indirect approach.

That's just a guess though.

Unihedro

Yeah. ^

bjb568

Such confuse.

Jon Ericson

@bjb568 It has nothing to do with the quality of your writing. It's about being clear about who you are and what you hope to accomplish. (Though good writing skills help both with writing a compelling nomination and being an effective moderator.)

bjb568

5:27 PM

Meh

Me sux

n can't type

Will update when home

Jason C

Hey Jon can I get your opinion? I feel like my nomination post was full of a lot of "I believe"s but not a lot of platform or plan, in reading it now. Is this an accurate assessment?

Unihedro

@JonEricson (and also communicating with your peers after getting the position, which helps with carrying out your tasks.)

Jason C

It wasn't my intention but I think it needs some work for next year.

hichris123

I wrote about the making of StackEgg, the Stack Overflow / Stack Exchange April 1st game: http://balpha.de/2015/04/the-making-of-stackegg/ http://t.co/dAyf3RlL0Y

Tweeted by balpha on April 6, 2015 at 3:56 PM

Jon Ericson

Wow. It takes a lot of scrolling to find an individual nomination. Let me see...

Jason C

5:29 PM

Mostly blex's comment kind of bummed me out.

Unihedro

7 hours ago, by Unihedro

The making of StackEgg by balpha

You're late :D

Jason C

@JonEricson I edited a link in, ha. But stackoverflow.com/election/6#post-29479047

Pham

Low Quality A (TPA'd by Undo): can you provide me the code for region growing segmentation you have used., by □ Ankita Singh, on dsp.stackexchange.com.

Undo

@JonEricson I always just cmd-F for the candidate's name, works fairly well for most of them

Jason C

^ Except for bjb, he's all over the place.

cky

5:31 PM

@Undo Nah, there's comments and comments and more comments.

hichris123

@Unihedro >:(

Unihedro

:]

Undo

You have to go through a couple matches, but it's still better than scrolling IMO

Jason C

You can kind of spot where they are with the highlights on the scrollbar, on chrome at least

hichris123

@cky I was really confused who you were for a second... why not ckjy?

Unihedro

5:33 PM

Pham

Low Quality A (TPA'd by ProgramFOX): I just like the way you write the posts and explain everything! thanks ..., by □ sid, on drupal.stackexchange.com.

ProgramFOX

^ looks pretty spammy due to the link

Jason C

Total mom spam.

Unihedro

It's a spam attempt..

user259867

> The average developer is 28.9 years old. He or she was born in April 1986, just as the Chernobyl meltdown was taking place.

user259867

5:35 PM

Maybe this explains the mod election, and generally things about SO.

Unihedro

night

Jon Ericson

@JasonC That's a really great comment, though. I like your nomination and I think writing one is a difficult assignment. As you say the character limit is rough.

Jason C

Little known fact: The average developer was actually born in Chernobyl.

bjb568

@ProgramFOX no definition, it's whichever you want

Jan Dvorak

It might explain BJB's nomination

Pham

5:36 PM

Low Quality A (TPA'd by Undo): I wonder is there any tool that can do the same for Hearthstone mulligan..., by □ kinnth, on boardgames.stackexchange.com.

Low Quality A (TPA'd by Undo): where did you get a new iphone 4s with ios 6 ?, by □ Naveen Jayaprakash, on apple.stackexchange.com.

Unihedro

Fact: Pham finds more LQ posts than Smokey

user259867

@Unihedro Fact: most of those don't need more than one flag, i.e., don't need a chatroom.

hichris123

@Unihedro Mostly because Smokey is set up for spam. ;)

Undo

^ that

cky

@hichris123 cky was my initials back in 1998, when I first started using that for my username.

Jester-Young is my married surname, and I got married at the end of 2006.

hichris123

5:38 PM

@cky ah.

Unihedro

Meta-fact: Pham gets (heaps!!) more fps than Smokey.

Mooseman

@Unihedro Pham also gets more tp's xD

Unihedro

False positives, not frames per second

Jason C

@JonEricson Thanks; if I write one for next year I'll have to think a little more about what's important in a summary. Writing that and reading all the nominations is good experience in general.

@Unihedro Haha, I was trying to figure that out.

Pham

Low Quality A (TPA'd by Undo): Please help me when x-3 I made mistake its not x- infinity, by □ user229489, on math.stackexchange.com.

SmokeDetector

5:44 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Can access service mode in Samsung Galaxy S3, but there is no menu by Umar Bashir on android.stackexchange.com

Undo

@SmokeDetector NAA

user259867

And the second answer there too.

user259867

That thread is the epitome of Android.se.

Jon Ericson

@JasonC I'm reading the uncut version now. I think some of the more personal stuff at the end (what you do in your job, for instance) would improve your nomination. (It strikes me that this is an exercise in writing a micro-resume.)

Jason C

@JonEricson Oh god, I can't believe you submitted yourself to that torture.

Choosing what to sacrifice to add personal stuff is pretty tough.

Unihedro

5:47 PM

What do you mean, sacrifice?

Jason C

I suppose I could put it in my user profile.

@Unihedro To stay under the character limit.

Pham

Low Quality A (TPA'd by Undo): aaaaa bbbbbbbb bbbbbb ccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc, by □ user3373360, on math.stackexchange.com.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Variable Questions with a Graph Figure by user3373360 on math.stackexchange.com

hichris123

lol

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@hichris123 Blacklisted user.

Unihedro

5:50 PM

Lol

hichris123

Actually nevermind.

!!/rmblu math.stackexchange.com/users/226056/user3373360

SmokeDetector

@hichris123 User removed from blacklist (226056 on math.stackexchange.com).

Undo

We'd be faster if we weren't batching requests

!!/apiquota

SmokeDetector

@Undo 9651

Undo

I kinda wonder if we could get away with not batching

hichris123

5:52 PM

@Undo it's also just time.sleep(60) due to the API caching.

Undo

@hichris123 oh, we're doing that too?

Hrm

we could scrape the page like Pham does, but I really don't like the idea of that.

Unihedro

Use ChatExchange.Net ;)

Undo

@Unihedro We already have the original ChatExchange, which works perfectly for chat.

The issue is API caching for getting answer bodies

hichris123

25

Q: Add a realtime answers tab to stackexchange.com

We already have an awesome realtime questions tab for every question that comes in over the whole network. But in the spirit of Optimizing For Pearls, Not Sand, shouldn't we also have a realtime answers tab? It'd be really neat to see the answers coming through for each question in the network,...

feature-request stackexchange.com web-sockets realtime-questions

Undo

I mean, what we're doing works, and it really works quite well, we can afford the 1-2 minutes (120 seconds) for a spam answer to live

Pham

5:57 PM

Low Quality A (TPA'd by Undo): Just started following this thread as I am writing a book myself (the cu..., by □ Suren, on tex.stackexchange.com.

AstroCB

6:17 PM

stackoverflow.com/election/6#post-29486743

17 hours ago, by AstroCB

3 hours ago, by AstroCB

It's a tad sad that there are a few candidates whom I've never heard of who barely participate in moderation at all yet have rep way higher than me and are going to end up shoving me and other lower-rep-but-more-active-with-moderation candidates out simply because of that.

Just saying.

Unihedro

Meh I agree

AstroCB

A lot of these high-reppers have little to no Meta participation, which concerns me.

They say they don't want Meta police, but really, to be an effective mod, you have to know what the site policies are.

Infinite Recursion

@JanDvorak I will try not to kick bjb during the elections because he is a mod candidate :/

user259867

vba4all requested account deletion? stackoverflow.com/users/2140173/its-been-a-pleasure

Undo

@InfiniteRecursion you're not a candidate, so he's still fair game

Jan Dvorak

6:22 PM

@pizza again?

Infinite Recursion

@Undo :D

Undo

>:D

Unihedro

@inf They won't win, you have nothing to worry about revenge ;)

Infinite Recursion

@pizza It has been like that ever since the MSO post. I guess they forgot to use "contact us" and request deletion.

AstroCB

1

A: Can we use something other than reputation as the bottleneck for election primaries?

I almost proposed merging the nomination and primary parts of the election after almost not making it through to the primary in 2011 myself. Had a curious passer-by not dug through my history and noticed that I dropped a 500 rep bounty (we used to toss in +50) on a question that really belonged ...

Alexis King

6:24 PM

@Inf You need to set up a bot that does nothing but allow the Tavern to vote to kick BJB. :)

16

Jan Dvorak

+1

Undo

Make Smokey an owner and ~~I'll~~ I might make it happen

Infinite Recursion

@Unihedro Not worrying, just a mark of respect for potential mod candidate :)

rene

> It's about goddamned time. – Will 2 hours ago

On Martijn's nomination....

Pham

Low Quality A (TPA'd by Undo): I love cricket i am right ha d batsman, by □ pratik r ghadi, on sports.stackexchange.com.

Alexis King

6:26 PM

@rene Yeah, well, Martijin's always been a shoe-in, should he have decided to run.

AstroCB

@AlexisKing I'd star this if I had any left – this is important.

Infinite Recursion

@AstroCB Ok, pinned it.

rene

Inf ... :D

Alexis King

@InfiniteRecursion :D

Unihedro

:D

SmokeDetector

6:29 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: About Oscilloscope Probing Philosophy by alex on electronics.stackexchange.com

Mooseman

> I AM TEH BATMAN - Some Spammer

AstroCB

@SmokeDetector I'm actually not sure if that is spam...

Alexis King

@AstroCB I don't think it's spam.

AstroCB

@AlexisKing It appears to answer the question, but the entire question seems like spam...

Alexis King

@AstroCB It's a product recommendation, but I don't think that makes it spam.

SmokeDetector

6:37 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: THALES QUESTION by MAHDI on math.stackexchange.com

Alexis King

> Look at the picture Very necessary!!

Pham

Low Quality A (TPA'd by Undo): This is worthy of a Nobel Prize in literature, keep it up champ!, by □ NCO, on math.stackexchange.com.

AstroCB

@AlexisKing I think this is what makes me nervous:

> Tektronix’ or Agilent’s measurement performance standards

hichris123

Well, all websites using highcharts' CDN should be a little faster now -- it wasn't giving 304's previously, but now it is.

bjb568

@jonericson My nomination post is a battleground now. Could you please purge comments? As predicted, benjamin is in flaming mode again at the site of me.

hichris123

6:43 PM

4 hours ago, by Jon Ericson

@bjb568 I think what happens next depends on how serious you are about running for moderator. Most criticism of moderators isn't removed from sight whether it is fair or not. The position demands that you respond to complaints directly and honestly. So it feels awkward to remove pointed comments even if rooted in past history.

bjb568

I READ THAT

rlemon

I think questioning your past is fair. own up to it, answer the questions showing that you're not the same person he's describing and move on. purging the comments everyone has already read makes little sense imo.

hichris123

@bjb568 Benjamin wants to know how your behavior has changed in the past year. I'm confused how that's flaming.

Unihedro

I'm with @rlemon - I think his comments are constructive.

rlemon

someone is now transcript flagging in the JS room.

ohh the joys

bjb568

6:49 PM

@hichris123 He didn't ask that. He said a lot more than that.

Jason C

Ben does seem to be going oddly below the belt there. Well, maybe.

Undo

@rlemon someone flagged that

rlemon

\o/

Undo

:P

rlemon

because it isn't obvious at this point?

lol

Jason C

6:50 PM

In any case @bjb how you handle his criticism is a good test of moderatoriness.

hichris123

@rlemon flags Your arms are offensive to me. ;)

@JasonC quite

rlemon

@hichris123 JOKES ON YOU! I HAVE NO ARMS!

bjb568

@JasonC it's not constructive criticism

Jason C

@bjb568 It doesn't matter, it's probably mild compared to what you'd get hammered with as a mod. Think of it as a learning experience.

Unihedro

Night, and don't let the greed of power get over you :)

hichris123

6:51 PM

@rlemon Okay, then your face... is spam? shrugs

rlemon

@hichris123 I can agree my face is spam

Andy

@bjb568 Are you sure? There are a few comment that are concerned about your past behavior. To me, it looks like they are asking for input how if/how that has changed

hichris123

rlemon

@hichris123 mmmm SPAM burger

Undo

@bjb568 Really, it is. I know it doesn't feel good, but let me tell you something: I think you can do it, but you have to prove to people that you can be trusted with such power. Again, I honestly believe that you can do it, but the vast majority doesn't share that sentiment right now. You just need to show folks, over the next year or so, who you can be. You can do it :)

(fwiw, I went through much the same thing a while back)

Jason C

6:53 PM

@bjb Take nonconstructive criticism with confidence; you'll be fine, and a better person at the end of the day. Even the most nonconstructive comments come from somewhere that seems valid to the poster. Figure out where that is, and look at it from that point of view.

rlemon

funny story; a web marketing firm a friend of mine works for snail mailed their clients a physical can of SPAM with the letter "sick of getting SPAM?"

Jason C

@rlemon And then I wonder why the post office is too busy to deliver my packages on time.

rene

@hichris123 flagged