@bjb568 He wants to know how you've changed. He's expressing it in a way that pisses you off, but that's where he's coming from. Even if you disagree that "how have you changed" is invalid to begin with, in his mind, it isn't. So play politician and address it. If you're truly confident that it's a non-issue, you wouldn't even blink at his comments. If you find yourself getting defensive, it's a good opportunity to figure out why.
@Shog9 I have an unrequited support request that has languished for 22 days hoping a kindly CM might stop by. Since that has not happened, I am now willing to open it up to servicing by all the other sorts, too. :)
But in my case it was "how have you changed since last year", in bjb's case it was "how have you changed since X". Just "how have you changed" isn't much of a question
@bjb568 Don't take it from that perspective. Just answer the question of how have you changed. He gave you examples that he's concerned about - almost all of them from a year ago. Has your behavior on the site changed in the last 9-12 months? If so, how?
@Pëkka That's nothing. I saw a moderator pulling drowning cats from a bag in a canal, only to throw them into the correct canal with more appropriate weights in the bag.
@bjb568 No man, you're not getting it. Let's say, for the sake for argument, that he totally does think you're a nuisance, and even if his claim is completely off-base, it's still his claim. Your goal is to win his vote.
@bjb568 That's what he's concerned about. Do you still do this behavior? If so, why? If not, why not? In either case, how is this behavior appropriate for a moderator?
@bjb568 As your unofficial publicist: I'd avoid "how is downvote asking a bad thing". You don't have to address and defend his specific examples. You can't, and it's pointless, he'll just cherry pick new ones. Address the underlying issue he has with you, not the specific examples. If you focus on the examples you'll not only get lost, but you won't change his opinion. Brush them aside and go for the root of his claims.
We recently began the sixth moderator election on Stack Overflow. There is a huge number of highly qualified candidates, and there are 23 overall at the time of this writing.
That's great, but there's this to consider:
After 7 days, the top 30 nominees, ordered by reputation, advance to the ...
Reading the question reminded me of something Joel wrote about interviewing:
On the other hand, if you reject a good candidate, I mean, I guess in some existential sense an injustice has been done, but, hey, if they're so smart, don't worry, they'll get lots of good job offers.
There will b...
@bjb568 I don't know if it's you or not. But apparently you have the motive and the means, so I'm going to ask you to, if it's you, please consider that when you flag someone in a chat, all 10k users in the network receives an annoying notification. Seeing that these flags never go through, this means that you are annoying way more people than those that you really want to target. If you have something against the JS people, can you please find another way to make them suffer?
@bjb568 Maybe that's the case, but think of it like this, then: The moment you nominate yourself is the moment you need to start pretending you are a moderator and acting like you would act. To gain votes you need to show you can do it, rather than expect people to just trust that you can (even if you know you can).
@Haney people are discussing mod nominations and a bunch of flags have resulted on any message mentioning @bjb568 or the election (in the js room, I can't see them here obviously)
@bjb568 Well, ignoring is the easy way out. Deftly changing the underlying opinions and gaining support and trust from those who start off disliking you is the impressive part.
@bjb568 They seem to be criticising you for not being "appropriate" in being a moderator. You seem to be ignoring them, and the JS room is full of flags right now. Also they gave some weird but very old evidence of you not being exactly good at handling specific situations. What's your take in all this?
@Jefffrey Hm… well… There's a message marked "official statement" posted by me in this room which you might want to look at to understand better (keeping in mind it's basically a flag that happens to be public, i.e. for mods).
If he lies, however, and it is discovered so later, this whole mess will begin again next year. "What has changed since you lied about flagging in chat rooms last year?"
I'm accusing. If bjb isn't denying it, it's obviously him. Whatever. Who cares? He's not going to win this election. Neither am I. Please take this out of this chatroom.
@JasonC I'm not whining about that, I'm whining about this chatroom being completely overrun by election conversation when there is an election chatroom.
We recently began the sixth moderator election on Stack Overflow. There is a huge number of highly qualified candidates, and there are 23 overall at the time of this writing.
That's great, but there's this to consider:
After 7 days, the top 30 nominees, ordered by reputation, advance to the ...
Reading the question reminded me of something Joel wrote about interviewing:
On the other hand, if you reject a good candidate, I mean, I guess in some existential sense an injustice has been done, but, hey, if they're so smart, don't worry, they'll get lots of good job offers.
There will b...
Please, oh please, FOR THE LOVE OF META! Use this as a 404:
