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4:00 PM

@TimStone Hahaha... though I think it really should be $('*')

Fair enough. :P ..Fixed

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Q: Display tag excerpt when asking a question

I have seen a few posts that highlight the fact that the some tags are being used incorrectly e.g. this question here regarding the assembly tag. What about the idea of displaying the tag excerpt on the Ask Question page? With some text along the lines of of "These are tags you have chosen, are ...

feature-request status-planned tags asking-questions

@radp Great idea!

I'm kinda afraid though

People on gaming have been fairly consistent using the game-rec tag

I'm afraid reading this tag excerpt when asking would result in them not tagging game-rec instead of them not asking their question.

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Q: Writing Socket Servers in PHP is it good idea?

Is it good idea to write Socket Servers using php?? here is how to article: http://devzone.zend.com/article/1086 question: What is different from writing socket servers in other languages like c, c++, python, ..? how about security? speed? "Socket Servers normally run continuously as a se...

php c++ python linux

4:03 PM

"but I didn't tag it game-rec!"

@radp I don't think people are quite that slow

@radp I think the tag excerpt should make it clear that if you need to use this tag, then you're doing it wrong

@MichaelMrozek Removing the "make community wiki" checkmark failed to kill the community wiki police ("just wait for 30 answers!" "let's make futile edits!"). All the meta discussion against "one answer per post" failed to stop people from asking one answer per post, from SO users no less.

the community wiki police needs longer to die than just a couple of weeks

@radp Those were both cases where the UI didn't indicate "this is bad"; you had to know why CW was removed or have seen the meta discussions to get it

4:06 PM

it's been around for 2 1/2 years

ok something's seriously wrong here. I brought the ethernet interface on the old server down and brought the interface on the new server up with the old server's IP. Now I can't SS into the new server... ARGH

did you plug in the cable?

Did you enable those services on those interfaces?

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

Oh, it lost my default route

4:07 PM

clear your cookies?

whew

that was scary

Redimensionalize your variables!

was the keyboard plugged in?

embiggen your swap!

did you restart the printer???

4:08 PM

@Josh Look, you fixed it, with our help

>That always works for me, restarting the printer!!!

@MichaelMrozek it's shake n bake, n I helped

Test

user image

because it's important

-4

A: Choosing the most colorful color in javascript

What kind of question is this? Some people shouldn't be allowed on the internet.

4:11 PM

killed

@radp Wow... the Wikipedia article suggest that you're going to need to go for RGB -> LAB transformation...

I'd love to see someone do that in JS

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Q: How can you avoid using the mouse?

You are more productive when using shortkeys to do stuff and NOT using the mouse. But in this gui time where all programs encourage you to use the mouse, how can you do without. are there helper programs to ease moving around the screen with the keyboard? (I use Enso from humanized) Or is the ...

productivity keyboard mouse shortcuts

@RebeccaChernoff is going to love this ^

Is there a generic page on the web that does colorfulness as a demo?

@YiJiang Telepathy.

@radp Where's @MarcGravell's BrainSuck 2000 when you need it?

Conference call: complete

4:17 PM

any loots?

@TimStone Yatta!

aardvark-g204:
(From Assim B./M/Mumbai,India)
*programming*
where can we write a code in flex and then compile it please explain the whole process

@radp ehwut?

This is like the designer version of vapor.js: dribbble.com/shots/80311-Invisa-Icons

@drachenstern Stack Overflow: It Could Be Worse. It Could Be Aardvark.

4:28 PM

wow

What's the source attribution on the SO iconset? besides CC-BY-SA ... did they handcraft them all?

me: tag plz-to-send-me-teh-codez
aardvark-g204: Thanks very much! That's helpful. Feel free to ask a question of your own!

@YiJiang that's awesome

anyone want to help me out?

@Josh that's a loaded question

trying to debug email issues on this new server

I'd like an email from outside

4:39 PM

Wait, I can spam you and help you in the process?

NO

;-)

aw :(

closes spammyenemy.com and changes tab

I have no need for viagra thanks very much @radp

can I tweet instead? email is so 1995

just give us your email address, and when you see email from xxx@prettyyoungthings.com you just let us know

4:40 PM

@balpha > You have fully used your vote allowance for today

@Josh Aw, i woudln't have done that. Gay porn is much more niche.

ROFLMAO

You probably don't have that in your inbox yet.

@Josh I got him for you instead ;)

@drachenstern I knew I shouldn't have asked in here for help ;-)

4:40 PM

@Josh whaaaaat? We're just trying to be helpful!

@Josh on the bright side, if you need another test email, you won't have to ask again.

Just wait those 12 seconds.

@drachenstern mods can see emails ... and i've heard tell some of them can be bought

@radp this is true, HAHA

feel free to remove josh, I have it copied

thx

4:42 PM

give it 10 ... 9 ... 8 ... :p

relying on gmail here

> looking for a bounce

Wow, maybe it is working...

How did you know what I put in that email! Give it back! Right away and at once! :p

LOL

LMK if you get a reply @drachenstern ;-)

I need to make an image for these occasions, with an empty freehand drawn circle.

What, no FHCs? -1 NARQ

4:44 PM

Subject: "MAH EMAIL LET ME SHOW YOU IT"

and why are you sending me smime's?

LOL. Thanks a lot for your help @drachenstern

@drachenstern because none of my clients do GPG :-)

@Josh I read the footer

wanna see my sig? lemme show you it

me n my buddy got BORED

> it's like matlab, but crappier

LOL

hehehe

4:52 PM

Argh josh.gfitlin.name went away again!

@Josh I remember you had an important business meeting a week or so ago.. did it go well?

sec, server xfer problems :-)

it didn't come true did it? My joke?

who reads hebrew? trying to make out a shirt. it reads (doing the right to left thing) Shin Lamed Vav Mem (using wikipedia for the references on the names) .. is that Shalom?

Yes

4:57 PM

dumb question I guess

@Moshe could confirm better than I

I'm pretty sure I'm reading the shirt correctly

Shalom () (Sephardic Hebrew/Israeli Hebrew: Shalom; Ashkenazi Hebrew/Yiddish: Sholem, Shoilem, Shulem) is a Hebrew word meaning peace, completeness, and welfare and can be used idiomatically to mean both hello and goodbye. As it does in English, it can refer to either peace between two entities (especially between man and God or between two countries), or to the well-being, welfare or safety of an individual or a group of individuals. The word is also found in many other expressions and names. Its equivalent cognate in Arabic is salaam, sliem in Maltese, Shlama (ܫܠܡܐ) in Syriac-Assyrian ...

yeah it was more of a rubber ducking exercise

I guess

Knowing my buddy it would make sense for him to have that on a shirt

I swear I smell like my dogs right now, I'm tempted to go home and shower at lunch :|

If anyone hasn't used up all the day's flags via stackoverflow.com/review yet: stackoverflow.com/search?q=thx+isaccepted%3A0

5:02 PM

@Fosco Sorry, things are just a little insane here right now. Yes, the meeting went very well thanks!

No money changed hands but we're all very interested in working together, should be very good for all parties

can anyone here resolve josh.gitlin.name ?

13 mins ago, by Josh

Argh josh.gfitlin.name went away again!

one of these things is not like the other, one of these things just doesn't belong

EndangeredMassa

@Josh I can.

Pinging josh.gitlin.name [72.52.239.254] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 72.52.239.254: bytes=32 time=228ms TTL=50
Reply from 72.52.239.254: bytes=32 time=255ms TTL=50
Reply from 72.52.239.254: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=50
Reply from 72.52.239.254: bytes=32 time=154ms TTL=50

should I remove?

@drachenstern I can't spell my own name? How freaking sad is that?

@drachenstern no, that's fine

@Josh shall I remove it?

5:06 PM

thanks!

kk

yvw

@drachenstern no, s'ok

it's public knowledge

@Josh yes yes latency and all that jazz

@PopularDemand do I have to navigate to each page? Where's my inline flags?

can anyone email tavern_spam@josh.gitlin.name ?

goes to sign that email up for thousands of mailing lists and spam houses...

5:09 PM

Thanks @drachenstern

@ircmaxell feel free, this is a made up address so I can /dev/null it ;-)

dam

goes and signs up for as many contests as possible with that address. So when @Josh wins he will never know...

muahahahahahaha

AHAHAHA

whew, new server seems to be doing fine, load is 10 times less, it's so much faster! \o/

is happy now

@Josh Yatta!

dl.dropbox.com/u/1722364/Garden/garden.html Done for the day, will continue tweaking tomorrow. Comments welcome.

TODO: Add style for ul and ol, pending HTML changes by Ivo, throw in some images, and maybe tweak the heading color. White is just too boring for everything here, hmmm...

5:25 PM

@YiJiang Awesome work Sir.

Readability, bah... the spacing of paragraph elements with headers need to be tweaked

@Fosco The content is not mine - I'm just working with the CSS

I know.. saw it before.

:445455 Hid all of the so that they only show on hover

Will ask Ivo to change the text to something more obvious, like #top

wasn't there on hover either, but it wasn't a main menu item.. i assume only the main points have one

i.e. "Best Practices" under "The Prototype" doesn't get one.

@Fosco Yeah, the minor headers don't have those

5:28 PM

You're quite the style master.

oh well, off to best buy... gift card burning a hole in my pocket.

feb 10th huh? interesting

On CDMA I don't think there's any way to use voice and data at the same time, is there?

Tweeted by willsmith on January 11, 2011 at 4:15 PM

5:52 PM

Yay iPhone on Verizon.

It would be awesome if they would have waited and then released the iPhone V.

user image

that's not returning spam on the linked image is it?

AT&T on top, Verizon on bottom.

@Moshe I'm glad I didn't buy an iPhone for myself last year :-)

did @YiJiang goto bed for the night?

@Jin are you out for the day too?

@RebeccaChernoff >_< can you interpret/decipher pretty pretty pretty please? meta.dba.stackexchange.com/questions/130

6:22 PM

@drachenstern yes?

@Jin was gonna ask you a style question but then I found an example to ripoff somewhere else

but for the sake of asking, in case you already have something premade just lying around :p ... know the twitter search box? (I know, everyone's doing it) ... just duplicating that more or less

what about the twitter search box?

why anyone on Verizon would use an iPhone is beyond me... Android kicks its ass all over town.

I'm duplicating the look and feel of it

6:37 PM

@Fosco which android?

Most :) the HTC Incredible, the Samsung Fascinate (my phone), the Moto Droid 2...

@Fosco which phone do you think non-techy users will prefer?

depends on how tech-stupid they are... I think the usability is very similar now.

but I've always thought it to be stupidity to limit yourself to your current capabilities.

you can always learn.

i've been wanting to play with the win7 phone, but no one that I know has one..

the live tile concept seems interesting

I'd like to see one too... epic fail sales numbers tho =\..

6:45 PM

So somehow I'm logged on Meta Gaming, but not on Gaming.

or at least, I was until a few seconds ago.

← is back on Windows where he was getting kicked every 3rd minute on SE chat to see if the issue is still there.

@Fosco did Microsoft ever release the sales number for Win7 phone?

@radp you should bat signal @balpha

@Jin I'm not sure if they did, but I read some estimates somewhere that were not good.

@Fosco can't be as bad as Kin lol

Rebecca Chernoff

Is anybody noticing the gravatars on the right not updating with new messages?

@Jin It happened mainly during the holidays when I had a very crappy connection; I still think there's something messed up with my session data.

@RebeccaChernoff Well, you noticed, I noticed too, ...

6:48 PM

@RebeccaChernoff Looks OK to me

@RebeccaChernoff no, they look like they're ok to me

refreshing fixed. Not. Yes.

Rebecca Chernoff

I've noticed in other rooms more than in here, but figured I'd ask in here anyway.

@RebeccaChernoff No need to rub it in, LBMG

:P

Hey @Rebecca I am considering that 10k challenge on ServerFault...

I think it's a freaking long shot, but maybe I can do it...

Where was that blog entry again?

6:52 PM

@Josh bit.ly/hVlOkC

@drachenstern Thanks

@RebeccaChernoff it's working for me...

Rebecca Chernoff

@radp |:

@Josh yuppers, I'm gonna play the home version of the game, and I'm where you are now roughly, so let's see how far I get by not playing and how far you do get by playing. I have a beta I'm playing in ;)

LOL

6:56 PM

Rebecca Chernoff

@Josh awesome!

@RebeccaChernoff It'll be a major challenge for me, but, it might be fun :-D

In other news: old server's average load for this time of day: 2.5 - 5.0... New server's current load: 0.05!!! \o/

@Josh Is anyone actually on it?

@MichaelMrozek Yup. 37 accounts, 35 of which are email only, 2 of which are email+website

The old server never should have had the laod it was experiencing. Something is seriously fsked up with it

a year ago there were 37 website+email accounts on the old one. I moved almost all of the websites off to a new server, but left the email alone because I didn't have a good migration path

@Jin I played with one - it's nice.

7:07 PM

@MichaelMrozek The past few months even just email was too much for the server, so I got a SAN from our datacenter, created a new VM, installed a fresh cPanel install, and copied all accounts over. Now balance has been restored to my world! \o/

I'm getting tired of buggy old Firefox, maybe I should give Chrome another try. Anyone using the latest Chrome? Feedback?

@LanceRoberts IDK if I'm using the latest, I'm on v8.0.552.224 for Linux x86_64, and I have no complaints

Rebecca Chernoff

I've used Chrome since it was first released. (:

I use the dev channel.

but I only use Chrome for chat and SE sites

I'm on 8.0.552.224 for Windows - which I see is the same as the Linux version number.

7:11 PM

by the way.

SGR (Single Gray Robot) seeks WiFi driver. IE compatible in a Chrome world. http://twitpic.com/3p4we7

Tweeted by StackHQ on January 11, 2011 at 5:53 PM

↑ Rovio!

The only thing I've got against it is that it occasionally causes a BSOD. Though it's speed and general goodness make up for that.

I know I missed this, but what's the purpose of stackoverflow.com/review ? How can I contribute?

@Moshe Read poor post, facepalm, then edit/comment/flag/downvote/act.

then move onto next.

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Q: How to review? Can we agree on a review 'policy'?

On the review page, there is a one-sentence guideline on reviewing. I think that as the number of reviewers increase, it is going to become increasingly necessary to come to some kind of agreement about a standard way to handle the different 'cases' that arise. I'm not sure if 'one question to r...

discussion policy review

@radp Okay, thanks.

7:20 PM

OK, on Chrome now for SE stuff, we'll see how it goes. Sure wish they'd fix the autologin stuff so it really worked.

@radp Wall-E will play Rovio in the Stackoverflow Movie

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Rebecca Chernoff

@LanceRoberts hm?

@LanceRoberts I find it works very well for me...

Rebecca Chernoff

Chrome is \o/

@Jin I so wish I could star this

7:21 PM

@LanceRoberts I wish they'd fix the reassignment of posts after a migration ;)

@Josh You're out of stars? :P

@Josh I starred it, and it was an amazing feeling

@TimStone I used 95% of them up last night, LOL

shakes head

i thought that SO movie thread on meta was closed? but apparently it's open again.

7:22 PM

Autologin works fine between a site and it's meta, but otherwise I get to login everywhere.

@Rebecca now I remember why I have ~2k rep on SF and was afraid to try and earn 10k more. These questions are difficult! 99% of them are over my head, heh

@radp I tried a few, got to get back to work now.

Rebecca Chernoff

@LanceRoberts Global login works fine in Chrome o:

@LanceRoberts There's a tool to test that. For me (in Chrome) it works fine

@Josh Only 99%? It's more like 99.9% for me ;)

7:23 PM

@ChrisF We I do play a Sysadmin on TV...

@Josh That's what you get, going and setting goals for yourself.. shakes head

@LanceRoberts only at first if I understand what you're saying, but honestly the cross-domain should catch up after the DOM is fully loaded. If I login from a new chrome on a stackexchange and then goto a different SE subdomain it loads the dom then says "welcome back, refresh to see page"

I thought that was because the page was cached

then after the fact it checks for your login

bahhh. i finally was able to answer one unanswered question on SO, and as I submitted my answer it said the question has been deleted already... sigh

Rebecca Chernoff

I hate it when that happens.

7:39 PM

@Fosco, I always hit the 'Questions' button so it will reload, but it only works for Metas. This is the third browser that it hasn't worked on, so it's not browser specific. It's just vaporware.

I've now found that Chrome doesn't have a ReloadEvery option, so that will really limit it for what I want. Hope someone whips that out sometime.

Rebecca Chernoff

There's an extension for it. Google!

I got the Reload extension, but you have to hit a button, it won't let you time it like the Firefox addin.

Any BIND nameserver experts in the house?

Rebecca Chernoff

@LanceRoberts chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/…

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Q: Is there a way to batch create DNS slave zones on a new slave DNS server?

I currently have a DNS server which is serving as a master DNS server for a number of our domains. I want to set up a brand new secondary DNS server. Is there any way I can automatically have BIND on the new server act as a secondary for all the domains on the primary server? In case it matters,...

dns bind webmin

7:44 PM

@RebeccaChernoff You get a star for that, thanks.

Rebecca Chernoff

Like I said, there's an extension. Google. (:

@RebeccaChernoff Look at that, a star on something of value! That's a dangerous precedent to set in here

I did, I guess they weren't smart enough to get their page to key off of "ReloadEvery".

Soon we'll all be starring things of value, and then who will star "oy"? Who?

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Rebecca Chernoff

THE WORLD WAS JUST MADE A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

7:45 PM

18 hours ago, by Michael Mrozek

The flagged star is becoming the unofficial Tavern mascot:

@MichaelMrozek I disagree with your recent assessment ;-)

It's not a mascot.

It is the flag of the United Taverns of Stack Exchange.

IN OY WE TRUST.

/assign @RebeccaChernoff constitution of the United Taverns of Stack Exchange

#AZ legislators moving emergency bill right now to prevent Westboro Baptist Church protest at Christina Green funeral. #Giffords #Tucson

Tweeted by brahmresnik on January 11, 2011 at 7:06 PM

suppresses comment of rage

I hate the Westboro Baptist Church #&(%@rs...

have you heard about the angel wings?

No, I haven't

7:49 PM

Microsoft gives us another lesson in Web Security.

don't know how trustworthy examiner is but this was out on the web earlier

user image

examiner.com/us-headlines-in-national/…

I say that as I get like 4 popups grrr

@drachenstern that's a neat idea

indeed, what would be better is folks not being dicks tho :p

ok ya'll, lunch

7:51 PM

(yes, it is phishing.)

The WBC people were going to demonstrate at Elizabeth Edwards' funeral here in Raleigh. Like 5 of them showed up, like 100 counter-demonstraters also did :-)

facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_120719544664902&ap=1

lol

I <3 Raleigh :-D

@drachenstern enjoy it

@Josh you live in Raleigh? I love Raleigh

I may move back to Raleigh this summer. Currently in DC area

@Jin I actually live outside it, but yeah

I'm in the RTP area. I moved here from MA, and love it

7:53 PM

@Josh I used to work in RTP, but lived in north raleigh for almost 20years

If you do move back down here let me know, I'll buy you a beer XD

Jarrod, Jeff and I used to work at GSK

(Well after you get the Unix site design up for @MichaelMrozek, then I'll buy you a beer @Jin ;-)

@Jin I didn't know that!

@Josh I only moved to DC for my FCC job 3 years ago. but since I work from home now, I'd like to move back to Raleigh, where my parents and friends are

I don't know how that worked, but I approve

Beers for everyone, on @Josh

7:54 PM

@Jin Oh really?

@MichaelMrozek unix will go live tomorrow, i'm almost done with the css conversion. the final header won't have mascots. just a type logo.

@TimStone yearly

Interesting. :P

@Jin Great! Have my man @Josh buy you another beer

@MichaelMrozek ROFLOL

@MichaelMrozek in that case, i really need a 27" Apple Cinema Display to get the Unix site pushed, I'll put that on @josh's tab too.

7:57 PM

@Jin What kind of stuff did you do at GSK, out of curiosity (if I'm not being too nosy)?

@Jin It will be at the bottom, below my own Apple Cinema Display. Meaning you may have to wait a looong time ;-)

@TimStone are you a GSK manager???

Hahah, no. :P

In other news -- I don't know how is it chat adds event listeners to its links, but it annoys me. :|

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