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12:00 AM
In fact especially when someone is not deserving of politeness, one should be polite.
 
@JourneymanGeek You can be "polite" and totally destruct someone with that kind of politeness :-P
 
Yup. And that's a good thing
 
@JourneymanGeek I prefer to be straight and honest.
 
Ugh. Were this a normal working day I'd be late :(
@πάνταῥεῖ why not all 3?
 
Doesn't mean "straight" == "impolite", just honest
 
12:04 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ Generally, when someone says you can do x, y and z at the same time and you reply with "I prefer to do x and y", it's accepted that you're strongly implying that you don't want to do z...
 
So. I can go 'welcome to Foo. You might want to add a little more information to help us help you...' or go 'this question is horrible'
 
@JourneymanGeek Ahhhh, good ol' Foo :) It's time like this that I miss CS
 
Leven Thumps and the Gateway to Foo is a fantasy novel by Obert Skye that traces the journeys of Leven, a seemingly ordinary boy from Burnt Culvert, Oklahoma, and Winter Frore, a neglected girl, as they seek to find their way to the magical dream land of Foo. == Characters == === Leven Thumps === Leven is fourteen years old and is the grandson of Hector Thumps, the builder of the gateway to Foo. Leven originally knows nothing of Foo or of his heritage. He discovers this information as the story goes on. Leven is an offing, who can manipulate the future, and is being hunted by Sabine (an...
 
Well, for my normal behavior at work, I'd prefer to take someone asking a blatantly dumb question apart for a 4 eyes talk, instead of blaming them in the public. Maybe that makes the difference.
 
12:19 AM
@Catija another book to read. Excellent!
 
12:40 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: В чём разница между прокси и VPN? by Obzor Igr on ru.stackoverflow.com
 
Anonymous
I <3 @StackOverflow & know how many people its helped. But It's time to stop debating whether some people *really* feel unwelcome here. Feelings have no "technically correct." They're what the feeler tells you. I reject the choice between empathy and quality. You deserve both.
 
Anonymous
> But It's time to stop debating whether some people really feel unwelcome here.
 
Anonymous
I think we recognize that people certainly feel that way.
 
Anonymous
> I reject the choice between empathy and quality. You deserve both.
 
Anonymous
Good ideal. But you never get 100% of everything you want, and it's hard work to even come close, so there does have to be some relative value assigned, in a pedantic philosophical sense.
 
Anonymous
12:45 AM
I do get really annoyed by how jerky people can be. Observe, my stupid protest avatar and name.
 
Anonymous
If significant progress can be made on that, it would be great. But it's very hard.
 
Anonymous
This year, we added an "Empathy & Inclusion" category to our compensation system for everyone in engineering at @stackoverflow. It feels like something that should have always been there, because it is so obviously basic to every job here. 1/n
 
Anonymous
oh that's a very smart move. genuinely love it. very coherent addition to the scheme.
 
user315433
There's not much empathy in automatic question bans.
 
@AdamLear I'm very happy to hear a better search is being worked on 😀 an improvement on that could make such a good difference! +1
 
12:59 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ yup. Why not do that here too?
@SFTP actually true
 
user202362
need LoveBots, those who randomly show kindness and encouragement to the first time/new users
 
@SterlingArcher I should've phrased that better. :) Prototype for guided searching before asking. Although actual work on search itself is also planned down the road IIRC.
 
Oh
I'm less happy. Still happy. Just less.
s/very/pretty/
 
Hah, fair :)
 
Anonymous
Good stuff. Surfacing duplicates more easily could have a huge impact.
 
1:05 AM
Please tell me somebody is watching the Caps Blue Jays game and saw that incredible save?
 
user315433
If a goalie makes a save but nobody sees it, did it really happen?
 
I seen't it
 
1:24 AM
Morning...
feeling dizzy, got intoxicated
 
user315433
> I wake up sick as you abandon me into these fields of rank and file.
 
user202362
1:50 AM
you know your life is weird when you receive more pranks on valentines day than april fools
 
user202362
and stop moving menus around, each tutorial only works for a year and a bit because next downgrade, everything gets moved around again
 
user315433
Randall is 33... what does he know?
 
2:10 AM
 
I thought big communities have tendency to be toxic, but I was surprised when I couldn't find any search results for Quora (or my Google-fu really sucked here)
Apparently I found one, and the writer was comparing Quora to SO, then concluded that Quora was worse than SO...
 
user315433
@Catija One can also be upset by a SO question; but it seems that telling the asker they are "completely fucking clueless" would be frowned upon? Looks like "my cause is so noble that civility norms doesn't apply" kind thing.
 
@HTTPS I think some folks want SE as a whole to be more quora like.
@SFTP never attack a user. Take apart the post.
 
Anyway, TGIF! And Happy Hour will come soon! Time to forget all these negativities and enjoy the weekends :)
@JourneymanGeek I can see that, but is it possible when SE has a goal to create a high quality repo of Q&A instead of helping everyone's issue?
The article compared SO and Quora's quality control with this Quora question: Does Sheryl Sandberg ever procrastinate?
 
2:41 AM
I'm blunt. One of my idea is to let them know -- in their face -- that their off-topic questions won't be welcomed on SE before posting them, but how? Doing a machine learning analyzing all closed and bad questions and have it analyzing the draft in real-time then mentioning the possible problems with it?
 
user315433
Me: Should I argue with randos on the internet, or do productive work? Brain: do your work Brain: arguing won't make you happy Brain: option number two Me: I definitely need to respond to this right now Brain: oh my god
 
3:02 AM
@HTTPS just remember rule 0
 
user315433
@JourneymanGeek Ah, but taking apart the post has disproportionally negative effect on minorities, and makes them feel unwelcome, and .... and... [insert heart-wrenching tales of woe here]
 
user202362
I am thinking of writing a novel, it starts like this:
 
user202362
An once beautiful land is shrouded by darkness, seven enchanters/enchantresses who possess magic power set to defeat the dark overlord. Those seven, each has a different power. One can control minds of the mass, one can create magic objects, one is able instantly heal an injured person (rumoured to be able to bring the dead to life).
 
user202362
There are also others with less magic abilities: one can summon food and create a feast, one is able to duplicate any physical structure. Be able to transport everyone from one point to another is the ability of another. The last possess all the knowledge in the world.
 
user202362
So the seven set off on a journey to seek 8 magic objects that enable them to find a map in which the weapon to defeat darkness can be found (because old prophecy said so).
Mean while, the dark overlord called trump continue to expand his rein and ruining of this land.
 
user202362
3:25 AM
the seven enchanters/enchantresses represents 7 industries
 
"Once" takes "a"... not "an"... it starts with a consonant sound (w).
 
user202362
Oo
 
3:41 AM
@TelKitty I thought this is about SE (posting Q&A, posting dupe Q, migration, Skeet) :D
 
4:07 AM
@SFTP or can be a opportunity to teach
 
I'm doing that on Anime.SE, but out of 100 First Review Posts, I can count with 1 hand how many were cooperative, most of them didn't care and nowhere to be seen again, and the rest got angry and left.
I'm still doing it now, and sometimes adding some emoticon now, but still no cooperation from OP.
I'm even confused whether to introduce the site's tour in the beginning or at the end of the comment.
 
user315433
My FP reviews are either votes (up or down) or edits, almost never comments.
 
@SFTP not even close vote?
 
user315433
4:26 AM
Yes, that too. Often. Unwelcoming though it may be.
 
user202362
4:54 AM
 
5:09 AM
@rene poor person didn't even get answear
@TelKitty what is the dome in the top left corner?
 
user202362
one of the pair of reflective saucers
 
IPS wall of text on MSE (aka plz close)
@TelKitty reflective saucers? Is this something alien? ;)
 
5:26 AM
@ShadowWizard Ya. I was going to link zat here
 
5:50 AM
:)
 
user310756
6:08 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ they can, send a custom mod message and go into detail - you can also use the contact us links. Explain you've been struggling and what you've planned to do to change that
 
morning @YvetteColomb
 
@Magisch pretty sure it's noon/afternoon for her, maybe even evening! ;)
 
morning shadow
 
user310756
@Magisch hi :D
 
user310756
@ShadowWizard yep and I gotta go on foal wathc. speak later from a paddock
 
6:14 AM
status-unidentified-words-wathc-paddock
oh, watch
> small enclosure for horses,
hehe, enjoy, @Yve! :D
 
Need some of these foal pictures when the foal comes out :D
foal aka horse puppies
 
watching foul foal fall
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: adding rewrite rules in .htaccess by Kevin Lee on wordpress.SE
 
@JNat hey what's up? cross site troll/spammer, heavily trolled/spammed MSE for sure, probably other sites as well.
 
 
1 hour later…
7:41 AM
in Not a bar, but plays one on TV on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 10 hours ago, by BESW
how did "the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog" become the typical sentence that contains all letters of the alphabet and not "sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow" which is objectively a million times cooler
@TelKitty is one of them called Neptunia -_-'?
 
Make senseless
 
BTW, I have solved the problem about the azure VM pricing. They told me that the free 150$/130€ monthly credit that is given out as a free benefit with MSDN subscription programs has also one more -somehow hidden- benefit
You pay the "Linux" vm cost (that is, the cost that does not include the OS cost) for every machine you create
Basically, even if you create a SharePoint machine (that should include the OS and the SharePoint license additional costs)... you only pay the cost of a Linux machine of the same size.
.... Microsoft is weird. I don't know why they don't give this clause more visibility. In most situations, this means you get a 50% discount on top of the free credit. That should be advertised more.
 
@Derpy It will be automatically deleted by the Roomba in 10 days. Why waste time/effort on it to delete it now?
 
Because is acceptable here?
 
@Makyen feng-shui
 
@Derpy So my theory about the hidden discount was correct
 
@HTTPS Just because it's acceptable, doesn't mean there's any reason to do it. It's at score < -3, so it doesn't appear on the front page, so people won't see it (much). It's closed, so nobody can answer it. Just ignore it. It's not worth additional time or effort.
 
@Derpy was one delvote away. Done
 
@Makyen Well, just saying that it's not that rare even for 20k+ asking for delvote on off-topic MSE post.
Well, never mind, I don't feel like this needs a further discussion...
 
If it was just a standard off-topic programming question, autodeletion would suffice. But personally, I'm not very found of leaving what appears like a troll/fake post there for a week.
> Plzhelpmemypatnerisevilandheistryingtofindthenecronomicontosummonthecurseddemons‌​fromthedarknessbeyondtimeinourworldhehasalreadyimprisonedfourothergirlstobeoffere‌​dasasacrificeandithinkiamnext.
not even worth the dramma. My eyes refuse to read a zero white spaces wall of text that long.
 
8:58 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: How offensive is 他妈的? by Junting Zhu on chinese.SE
 
> Plz help me my patner is evil and he is trying to find the necronomicon to summon the cursed demons‌​ from the darkness beyond time in our world he has already imprisoned four other girls to be offere‌​d as a sacrifice and i think i am next.
also why
 
@Magisch made that up, but it is not like the original was any better. At least up to line 5, I didn't manage to go further.
Unrelated. Have been trying the unity-webapp under Linux/Ubuntu. Totally not what I expected.
I hoped they used the site apis to build a custom UI (without all the noise, flashy backgrounds, ads and the such...) ^_^
 
9:23 AM
that said, I wonder if the unity-webapp does implement any form of added security.
To me, it seems like it would be LESS secure.
 
9:54 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly non-Latin answer: Enclosure, things to pay attention to? by user10500 on 3dprinting.SE
 
10:19 AM
@Derpy Because it doesn't contain all letters of the alphabet?
 
10:50 AM
status-you_are_late_for_the_joke
 
status-you-broke-the-status
 
status-it-must-be-the-only-content-of-the-message
 
@SonicWizard :P Still referencing that lazy fox post? ^_^'
 
Is there a change in top bar again?
 
status-ninjad-edit
 
10:52 AM
@NogShine What change?
 
@NogShine the inbox notification?
 
@SonicWizard Hamburger menu. The help, chat and log out moved down.
0
Q: Options in hamburger moved down

Nog ShineI noticed that the options present in hamburger icon i.e., help, chat and log out are misaligned. This is how it looks. They moved to next line. It is the same in Hinduism, Vegetarianism and some more sites along with metas. But this remains as earlier like that is on Meta Stack Exchange. ...

 
@NogShine repro'd
the icons on the inbox notification also got trimmed
 
@NogShine Probably a bad CSS fix?
 
@SonicWizard May be. balpha replied. It's a bug.
 
10:58 AM
yeah, I had to update the top bar dialog layout to support non-fixed widths (in preparation for responsiveness), forgot to add a CSS class to some elements
@HTTPS can you clarify that?
 
hmm, status-planned to me means "we hope to get to that eventually"
 
huh
 
dunno why the latest inbox (from your ping) is correct
probably the cache problem again
the bounding box seems correct, the image looks like cut in the middle
 
11:33 AM
1 hour ago, by Sonic Wizard
2k+ https://meta.stackexchange.com/review/low-quality-posts/57350
@HTTPS ^^
 
user315433
TIL Microsoft is using @StackOverflow Enterprise. Can anyone elaborate how and when it's used?
 
user315433
An informative thread there.
 
Seems a good question on Quora
Huh? Megaman X Legacy Collection?
 
11:57 AM
umm?
Getting this on all SE sites
 
Yes
 
That intentional?
 
That's a bug. Reported.
2nd question on home page
1 hour ago, by Nog Shine
0
Q: Options in hamburger moved down

Nog ShineI noticed that the options present in hamburger icon i.e., help, chat and log out are misaligned. This is how it looks. They moved to next line. It is the same in Hinduism, Vegetarianism and some more sites along with metas. But this remains as earlier like that is on Meta Stack Exchange. ...

 
@Magisch has two (bad) questions from 2013. Comes back to the site 5 years late, only to post programming question on meta.
 
12:03 PM
 
12:22 PM
Earlier this week I came across the parable of the Purple Beggar (thecodelesscode.com/case/170) and I thought "maybe this is worth discussing on meta", more specifically as whether the "be nice" related rules could still permit a certain amount of frustration to be displayed in question titles while still keeping them relevant
the frustration would mildly encourage more people to read it and maybe post their input
especially from the HNQ part
 
Apparently SO had opened a machine learning competition 5 years ago to predict if the question will be closed or not. Is it used internally?
 
@HTTPS I mean, isn't that close to what smoke detector is?
 
12:39 PM
@Nzall yeah, I believe there are some chatbots for monitoring post quality on SObotics too.
 
My idea is more to: a new user directly goes to "Ask Question" without reading anything. Before they post their first (bad) questions, the system will predict if it'll be closed or not. If it has lower probability to be closed, then the system directly allow it. If it's not sure, the system will show a pop-up to give a notice/warning that the question might be closed, but give a confirmation checkbox to post it. If it's 100% off-topic, prevent it being posted and show related help center/tour
 
@Nzall This is pure gold. Know, my good sir, that thanks to you another little empty hole has just been filled on the wall at my office.
 
@Derpy And what's your opinion on the entire discussion topic of small amounts of frustration in titles?
I'm not talking about titles that viciously attack someone or something. not something as intense as in the topic
 
12:56 PM
@Nzall but if there's a question there we can edit it.
and I think questions should be as factual as possible
 
@JourneymanGeek You can be factual, on-topic and complete in a question while still showing a small amount of frustration in things like google not giving any response and the documentation being useless
 
"the documentation is useless" vs "I checked through the docmentation at "site" but was unable to find the specific thing I was looking for"
heh
apparently I didn't even complain when that happened to me
 
@JourneymanGeek "The documentation does not explain this topic at all"
 
just forged on with the question.
ah
I don't see too much wrong with that
however the ^^%&^%%^&^% documentation dosen't ^^*%#^&%#&%. A pox upon the dev and his family....
that would be out of line
 
If others check the documentation and can confirm it, then yeah, I don't see anything wrong.
 
1:00 PM
The idea is to stay factual while hoping that someone who did find a solution is pushed to correct you
 
but but
27
A: upstart scripts: run a task after networking goes up

Journeyman GeekApparently respawn console none start on (local-filesystems and net-device-up IFACE!=lo) stop on [!12345] script chdir /usr/local/gw6c/bin/ exec /usr/local/gw6c/bin/gw6c end script seems to work

lulzily
This was exactly what I was looking for. It's still not in the upstart documentation anywhere that I could find. — Nathan Aug 14 '12 at 20:45
every. single. part. of.that.post. is obsolete.
gogo6 closed, upstart got killed off for systemd....
 
@Nzall My opinion? That we are far too eager in moderating "noise" like frustration in titles, signatures or "thank you" at the end of a question... but we let other more abusive behavior like snarky comments or "I am better than you" post live.
That said, I am not sure that, given our community, "the frustration would mildly encourage more people to read it and maybe post their input".
On the opposite.
It would only give one more excuse to bash the user with passive-aggressive remarks.
 
@Derpy As i clarified, I think it would be less "express frustration" and more "post mild hyperbole about things you're not certain about to encourage people who know better to correct you"
Weaponize the feeling of satisfaction people get when they can prove someone else wrong
 
@Nzall somehow relevant:
Your question is composed by two parts: one is a rant about downvotes, and the second one is a real issue. If you remove the rant (remember: have a tear of rant in a post, and all others will comment on is the rant) then you may get a good question. But then I fear that you may have still a problem: either you are aiming at resolving what seem an impossible problem by asking for a feature that can't be done (how you would recognize a vote as "revenge vote"?) or you will ask for a feature where people would need to "justify their downvotes, probably with an anonymous comment... — SPArchaeologist Oct 18 '16 at 18:21
basically, if one tried what is suggested in that short story on stack, I would expect:
- multiple downvotes, some from people that know the answer, most from people that jumped on the bandwagon.
- snarky comments like "sorry to burst your dream, that simply isn't true. Do research a little more before posting false info"
- no actual answer posted
@Nzall To my experience, people who behave that way often do not think they have to prove anything. Knowing (or thinking to know) that something is wrong is enough. They will point out that the claim is wrong, but more often than not they will avoid posting the actual solution
 
1:20 PM
I mean, the snarky comment would be equally inappropriate
 
See also: Unexplained Downvotes, a 9999 act story of rants, tears and windmill fighting. Available on your closest Meta site.
 
At least MSO has done their best with canonical meta post about comment-on-downvote feature request
 
@Derpy moderating noise is typically done with good intentions.
votes eh.
I'm the wrong person to talk. I have a dog ava.
More seriously, I have enough rep and experience on the network that I'm slightly unlikely to ask a question people would take terribly
 
should that surprise anyone? If you candidate to become a mod, then you are doing extra work. At that point, there are only two options:
a) you are actually willing to work to serve the site - this *usually* mean you will try to be nice
b) you are Luxus Dreyar and you think that the site is growing weak, filled with users that do not deserve to be here. You want to purge them, take the guild from the staff and become the new ruler.
 
@Derpy or people vote you in cause you're nice.
@Derpy b might have happened a few times
 
1:27 PM
@JourneymanGeek "few"
 
I suppose that "Class S" user is still there, right?
you know, the one that was going to "make SO great again"...
"few"
But I totally understand. Who would risk driving a very high rep user away by subjecting him to "too strong moderation"?
Just hope Jon Skeet doesn't turn mad anytime soon, or I fear we will have to live with it.
 
@HTTPS or people saying that SO staff is "dirty mean people" and not receiving even a single week suspension.
 
@Derpy there's something not quite right if someone says that and nothing happens
that feels contrary to 'be nice'
 
1:40 PM
@Derpy I guess you're referring to the recent MSO drama?
 
@HTTPS mod hate is everywhere just the reason is different. Sometimes citizen ship of the mod is a reason. Worst reason I have ever heard.
 
@Derpy ugh evan
 
@HTTPS Nope, I am referring to the fact that either Shog is far more compassionate than I am, or they are tolerating him just because of his contributions and rep score.
I hope it is option a) but the voice inside my head is yelling "It is option b)"
And that's why I said...
14 mins ago, by Derpy
Just hope Jon Skeet doesn't turn mad anytime soon, or I fear we will have to live with it.
also, unrelated.
> There is a theory that an finite number of Laughing Monkeys pounding away randomly at an finite number of keyboards will eventually get a clean compile. The existence of the Standard PHP Library would seem to imply that this has already happened.
thanks, @Nzall. That site is just brilliant.
 
2:12 PM
 
@Feeds buying Turkish Delight for upcoming Happy Hour
 
hm. Gets cinnabons
 
@Feeds He got Turkish Delight. I got a Snail pie, and I was promised a Butterscotch Cinnamon one.
 
2:35 PM
Snail pie? All I got to eat is a bicycle.
 
@JourneymanGeek yeah think it is time time for permanent suspension of that hate troll.
Lol mobile chat kept draft of some old message I never posted
 
@JourneymanGeek granted
 
excellent. I'll throw it the first delvote too... @ShadowWizard @rene et al can do the honours.
 
3:11 PM
@JourneymanGeek all (g|d)one
@ShadowWizard what was it? And if it is pretty offensive, please post.
 
For those here who are a bit familiar with german:
-2
Q: "von Neumann'sche natürliche Zahlen" oder "von neumannsche natürliche Zahlen"?

Vasili PupkinDer Duden lässt "grimmsche Märchen" und "Grimm'sche Märchen" beide zu. Was passiert, wenn der Name mehrteilig ist? Konkret: Ist "von Neumann'sche natürliche Zahlen" korrekt? Ist "von neumannsche natürliche Zahlen" korrekt? Damit niemand einfach so drauflos dummschwätzt: Bitte Erklärung beifüg...

We should extend smokey maybe :-/
 
@HTTPS fix for that is in the next build
 
@balpha yay! \o/
so, what's the cause of the issue actually?
 
@HTTPS Are you asking about mine?
 
3:26 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ the broken icon that balpha just fixed actually :/
 
Anyways I'll cite as a translation what the OP insisted to be left in their question as addendum:
> So that nobody simply dumbly chatters: Please enclose a statement. Answers without explanation are reported, as well as irrelevant comments.
 
@HTTPS flexbox algorithm making slightly different decisions in FF and Chrome, which is why I didn't notice I had to disable flexing for the icon
 
That's at least very impolite, if not even braze faced.
 
@balpha o/
 
just say that those are meta comments and aren't acceptable on post
but given the downvote, it seems come from rude flag... so, yeah..
 
3:32 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: Disable history for only one task in the Task Scheduler Library? by Karian Smith on serverfault.com
 
I wonder why the OP put that meta-commentary out of nowhere when their previous questions were fine...
 
@HTTPS Maybe under pressure with their German B2 exam or such :-P ...
 
@SonicWizard I'm not convinced we want to red-flag that (unless there's some context I'm unaware of)
Also, the user has some rep elsewhere in the network
 
The OP has positive contribution on SO. It's a reasonable question to ask since not all Wikipedia articles (or anything, as Jeremy has mentioned) are credible.
 
@Sonic Not a troll, just a hopelessly lost person.
 
Anonymous
no relation to this yellow duck
 
4:41 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ Du bist suspendiert? Wieso das denn?
 
@userunknown Ich war wiederholt "nicht nett" :-)
A long story ...
 
:) Oh. Gibt es eigentlich eine lateinische Schreibweise für Deinen Namen? Ich lese immer "Maria Pei"
 
@userunknown It's greek, take a look at my profile. It's well explained there.
 
oder Paula?
 
@user Stick to english here please (even if we sometimes respond in hebrew or other languages)
@userunknown At least I've been using inappropriate words in chat for my last suspension (same with my sock I've installed after). Silly and drunk actions :-D ...
I am mostly participating in moderation at German Language, Code Review, Software Engineering and Meta for now.
@user Vasily earned their 1st suspension anyways. You see?
@user Call me a "Soup Nazi", but I am not
@userunknown The correct latin transcript is: Panta Rhei
 
5:02 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ Thanks for answering. Need to try, if 6858706 would work for replying autocomplete.
@πάνταῥεῖ: ah - at at-sign, candites automatically pop up. There is no PI on my keyboard, I fear.
 
@userunknown It's intentionally made hard to ping me ;-)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ - well not that hard. But other users, I heard, use overly long names with blanks which look like error messages. ;)
 
@userunknown Or even hidalgo unicode :-D
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Don't know, what hidalgo is.
@πάνταῥεῖ (Test: do manual numbers work?
Yes.
 
@HTTPS Manual number also works for replying to themself
 
5:14 PM
@userunknown I'm still looking for a good picture to demonstrate it ...
 
I can't anwer to myself (even if I have the most interesting questions), so how do I know my own number?
@πάνταῥεῖ: Not neccessary - my PC has wikipedia, if I'm seriously interested. :)
 
@userunknown It's displayed at your profile link: meta.stackexchange.com/users**156431**/user-unknown
 
@πάνταῥεῖ hidalgo, perhaps you mean zalgo?
 
Oh, that's 11*14221, and 11 is the närrische Zahl (funny/crazy number for carnival issues).
 
@HTTPS Ah that's why my search failed so badly :-P THX
All kinda mexican confusion appeared ...
First hit at SO of course:
569
Q: How does Zalgo text work?

MikeI've seen weirdly formatted text called Zalgo like below written on various forums. It's kind of annoying to look at, but it really bothers me because it undermines my notion of what a character is supposed to be. My understanding is that a character is supposed to move horizontally across a line...

 
5:25 PM
Um, my inbox notifications are stuck
and theme.css give a 404
 
@rene Inbox Overflow?
 
yeah
@πάνταῥεῖ if you load Meta SE, do you see a 404 for theme.css?
Oh: https://meta.stackexchange.com/teams/theme.css?v=10056:1520526728:10063:1520539‌​764
 
@rene Nope. Everything works just fine here
 
I get that 404 if I open the inbox
weird
 
I think this is a teams related bug
 
5:30 PM
<- not part of Teams, no bug...
 
@AdamLear yeah, it doesn't handle inboxRead, by the looks of it correctly due to that
so on the next page load I get the inbox indicator back
this is across all sites btw
I repro on MSO and SO proper
 
Well, just a few hours ago, there was CSS refactoring, so... possibly regression
 
Anonymous
@waffles Well, it is six years later and none of the potential downsides/fears by having a fallback in place you wrote about have (permanently) materialized. I simply can't understand the logic to sit around and do nothing while the site is horribly broken from China. — bmjjr Feb 24 at 5:23
 
Anonymous
A little bit misdirected.
 
Anonymous
It looks like Discourse does host jQuery on its own CDN.
 
5:37 PM
@AdamLear bug report for tracking: meta.stackexchange.com/q/309049/158100
 
thanks
 
@Yvette THX for your last response (I've seen it, but too bothering searching up the transcript to mention). I'll consider to take your advice, let's just see how boring the next 2 month will come up for me. ATM it's a quite interesting experience to nicely participate in moderation of other sites than SO.
 
@SmokeDetector f
 
@rene Would you mind to add me as a privileged user for Smokey please?
One quite annoying thing with my suspension from SO is that I can't chat at any other sites which aren't derived from Meta SE, but these are all using Stack Overflow as their parent site. I'm considering to ask for a FR to change that, since w.o. chat it's hard to improve your actions at particular SE sites. What do you think? Is there a dupe FR already?
 
6:01 PM
Chrome thinks SO is in Vietnamese lol
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I think this is one of the requests
 
@HTTPS THX!
@HTTPS I believe I owe you a beer or 2. You were helpful to me at least twice today ;-)
 
happy to be a secure beer protocol ;p
 
6:11 PM
@HTTPS I probably bothered you too much about that unsecure protocol joke, sorry please! I think I even owe you a 3rd beer ;-)
 
nah.. no need to be sorry, I know it's just a joke ;p I'm already used to some people pestering me, and I'm okay with it as long as it's not a personal attack.
and growing (too) thicker skin since joining SE...
 
6:32 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ consider it done, pending a deploy.
 
user310756
@πάνταῥεῖ things will work out - email me if you need to
 
@YvetteColomb I've planned that anyways ;-)
 
6:53 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body: Payment Partnership opportunity to discuss by Kym Larsen on civicrm.SE
 
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