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12:11 AM
@cVplZ What, you didn't like my new title?
:( I thought it made it a ton clearer.
1:02 AM
@hichris123 yours was a more clear, descriptive title. But it didn't have the buzz, interesting title to enhance more clicks.
@JasonC you should have access to Smokey now
1:32 AM
Tricky question: which revision is shown in Reopen queue: second most recent, or the one that was closed? (At least, tricky to find the answer to.)
@Rafflesiaarnoldii Grr! You changed your name again!
@Rafflesiaarnoldii IIRC it diffed to the revision before it was closed.
Let's try science!
That's what I wanted to try, but don't know how to set up an experiment.
@Rafflesiaarnoldii It diffs to the revision before it was closed. stackoverflow.com/review/reopen/6165105 & stackoverflow.com/posts/26769367/revisions
Thanks! SO provides a lot of material for scientific experiments.
@Rafflesiaarnoldii Indeed it does. :)
1:36 AM
@Undo Oh, thanks.
Looks like blatantly OT? Not spam.
@Rafflesiaarnoldii That or "not a direct link to patent holder"
@hichris123 he's brick in the wall and world something?
4 hours ago, by Jason C
http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/243057/is-there-anything-se-can-do-about‌​-this-spam (in my strong opinion, anyways; given the new information)
Man, navigating the room info pages is infuriating. I feel like every link takes me to the transcript, the message search page, or the room itself, but exactly which of the three is entirely random.
Once I saw a list of posts starred by me, that was kind of cool. But then it was a graph. But then it was some user's profile. I tried to go back but just saw other peoples' bookmarked conversations. Then a CSV started downloading, my computer rebooted, a herd of cats ran through my apartment and my couch burst into flames.
1:43 AM
@ShadowWizard that is interesting! no Mark Booth to be found
I once looked for a way to get the list of a user's messages... that did not end well.
So I'm trying to build a SEDE query to show answers, their timestamp, but also the timestamp of the question they belong to. I have this, but I keep getting internal resource errors, I guess because of the big join:
  a.Id AS [Post Link],
  a.Id AS [AnswerId],
  q.Id AS [QuestionId],
  a.CreationDate AS [AnswerDate],
  q.CreationDate AS [QuestionDate]
  Posts a INNER JOIN Posts q ON a.ParentId = q.Id
  a.PostTypeId = 2 AND
  q.PostTypeId = 1 AND
  q.ClosedDate IS NULL
Is there a different way to run this query that is a little more resource friendly?
@JasonC Does adding a TOP 100 or similar make it happy?
Urgh, we really need some indexes on those tables...but I'm afraid regenerating them every time the data is refreshed would be prohibitively expensive.
@JasonC or add q.CreationDate to WHERE to make it cheaper
1:57 AM
@hichris123 Hmm... Yes, actually. Although it doesn't make me happy; since this is going to be used for part of a bigger query and I want to get everything.
@TimStone Did you ever get the latest code pulled?
@JasonC Your PostTypeIds are actually doing more harm than good.
@hichris123 Everything I've put out has been pulled for a while (well, with the exception of that bug I fixed yesterday, which was pulled yesterday), but not deployed to the public instance. :(
steps back and lets @TimStone do the magic
Let me see if I can beat it into submission, but having to outsmart the server to get what you want is clearly not very usable. :P
@TimStone Go ping Nick incessantly. That'll annoy him enough... maybe... ;)
1:59 AM
@TimStone Oh I guess they are; I don't really understand how the optimizer works. But same issue without them.
@cVplZ I'm trying to find a list of all answers that were posted within a given amount of time of the question being posted.
@JasonC Oh FFS, it can't even do the join itself.
@JasonC I thought @cVplZ has this query used on his meta post?
@AndrewT. I have it only selecting the count
@AndrewT. I tried just selecting the [Post Link] , for answers left > 14 days and < 30 days and it ran out of resources
@AndrewT. What post
@JasonC here
2:07 AM
@TimStone I removed the [Post Link] column and its fine now.
@cVplZ -1 still needs a better title. :P
Let me look into that...
It looks like doing it this way might be marginally faster, but there appears to be an issue with the execution plans for some reason ( |: ) so I'm not sure if there's a good reason for that or not.
I just selected top 500 answers for this one, works good data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/242936/test
@TimStone Thanks for checking.
Well, my grand plan to uncover unnoticed spam seed questions + answers seems to have failed. My query works but the results aren't nearly as awesome as I expected.
2:20 AM
@JasonC I've done something like that before. My reasoning was to just select the questions/answers that were both by new users, less than 30 days old accounts, and some other things. Didn't find too much.
@cVplZ Yeah :/ I just looked for answers posted within 24 hours with questioner and answerer both with 1 (or whatever) rep.
@AstroCB wat
that's a different kind of meta
I'll just leave that here.
2:30 AM
at least it's not a gif
I have a feeling that it could be used in one of Shog's posts somehow.
- oops -
@Doorknob wut
@hichris123 I dun messed up
2:39 AM
@Doorknob thanks sir
@Doorknob Still does not hold a candle to:
@JasonC I've already starred that :D
aaah my eyes!
THIS IS AN ACCEPTABLE GIF. Anything animating more than this is not to be tolerated!
Jan 18 '11 at 4:57, by Dan Grossman
user image
2:49 AM
lol that's actually pretty good artwork there, i like it
a true masterpiece
3:12 AM
That took way too much time
Can someone please delete this room? (doesn't add any value and clutters up space)
@InfiniteRecursion I thought you meant the tavern
^ my thought too.
@JasonC no, your chickenbutt messages add immense value and make the internet better :P
Umm, let it freeze by 14-days inactivity?
3:14 AM
@Rafflesiaarnoldii It doesn't allow text and room link on the same line, room gets oneboxed and text gets lost
still, aaah my eyes!
freezing it is a waste of resources, it adds zero value
Okay, here's a puzzle. If I search for is:question on SO, the results are ordered by votes. If it's on another site, say Super User, they are ordered in some way incomprehensible. Why?
@JasonC s/h/f
@Rafflesiaarnoldii Votes are arguably incomprehensible as well
3:18 AM
@InfiniteRecursion It'll auto-nuke in... 14 days?
I was just curious what "relevance" meant for such searches. The most questiony questions, the most answery answers, the closedest closed questions...
@Rafflesiaarnoldii it's sorted by relevance on both the sites for me
Should I post my markdown parser on CR? (… or would they think I am crazy for asking 2 questions about different markdown parsers?)
Yes, it says "relevance", but the actual order shown seems to be by votes on SO.
3:18 AM
@hichris123 will it? then it's fine :)
@InfiniteRecursion Actually, it's 7 days. chat.meta.stackexchange.com/faq#retention
> Rooms not worth retaining which are inactive for 7 days will be deleted.
ok, it's already 6 days old, so it be gone in a day or two
… I'm seeing a lack of interest for my markdown parser …
… I guess the answer is no.
@bjb568 It's amazing. Since I haven't seen the code.
@hichris123 Adding u on the end of false/true whitelists/blacklists everything by that user, otherwise it does nothing with the user, yeah?
3:22 AM
… I think poking vogel to check if it's acceptable on CR is better ...
For the bot
@JasonC right. the u whitelists the user.
Although the bot's kinda dead right now.
@InfiniteRecursion And/or Jamal. Who's... not pingable. :(
yes, or drop into CR chat room and ask...
(aww, message splice)
3:25 AM
@bjb568 <marquee>CLICK MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE</marquee>
@InfiniteRecursion @Vogel612'sShadow HALLO
^ Nice wrapping
@bjb568 HALLO doesn't convey much, especially when it's trapped between gibberish
@InfiniteRecursion It's the arrow and the red thing that matters.
@Vogel612'sShadow HALLO github.com/bjb568/Markdown-HTML/blob/master/core.js is gewd for zeh CR, yes?
^ Happy? :P
3:28 AM
^yes :)
7 hours ago, by hichris123
Oooh, duck. @Inf
@InfiniteRecursion ^
@hichris123 talking/sharing with bjb kinda sorta relieved me, also the maths wiz gave expert advice
yesterday, by Shog9
Especially if you periodically kick people who ping you
^am going to try that solution too
@InfiniteRecursion Why does that remind me of "He thinks too much, methinks" (or whatever it is from Caesar)?
> Let me have men about me that are fat,
Sleek-headed men and such as sleep a-nights.
Yond Cassius has a lean and hungry look,
He thinks too much; such men are dangerous.
... so by Caesar's thinking... we all are dangerous.
@hichris123 nope, am not dangerous. Just too many likey questions made me uncomfortable. Happens, if you were in a site/room predominately filled with female members, and faced all these "like me?", "like her?" questions, you might feel uncomfortable too
focus should be on content, not on personal opinions
3:37 AM
Let's play find the UX problems…
@InfiniteRecursion Alright then: do you like answer #1234567? :P
@InfiniteRecursion I get it; just yell that people if they do that again. Say the wrath of thy Shog will fall upon them if they don't comply.
@hichris123 yes, I do. just don't ask if I like any particular user, I like ALL the posts!
@hichris123 sure, will do
I still don't really get what the objection is to "do you like" questions… If you don't want to bother, just flip a coin for FSM's sake…
It isn't like there's really an answer.
@bjb568 Let's play 'why is your browser window at 1/3 size?'
Or that it's really a question…
@hichris123 Shows more horrors. Of course I keep it full screen…
3:40 AM
@bjb568 Well, how about this: if you're a female user, and a ton of guys ask "do you like me"...
@hichris123 Well, on the internet I feel disconnected from that kind of connotation. On the internet, everybody is a connection of posts, of ideas. And I do have a general impression at every point in time of them. That's just there. Not like EWWW MORE PEOPLE ARE SO LIKE TOTALLY NOT FEMENAZI, like, it's just a stupid question that doesn't mean much.
It's so disconnected, especially on something with the name of "meta". I just see the question as meaningless more than anything else.
@bjb568 yes, too many stupid questions are a good reason to step away, I did the same...took a step back...
@bjb568 Do you like Bobby?
@Rafflesiaarnoldii EVERYBODY LIKE BOOBY! Oh, bobby? Yes, him too.
@bjb568 To each his(her) own. Not my choice to decide what another user doesn't like/likes. And I honestly could care less (as long as their choice isn't to be mean to everyone).
3:44 AM
@bjb568 do you like angie?
@InfiniteRecursion wat is dat?
@InfiniteRecursion Do you like triangles? Or are squares better?
@hichris123 Another thing I don't like: his(her). Ugh. Why not their?
Oct 12 at 18:09, by Shadow Wizard
@bjb568 maybe this Angie?
@bjb568 'cause it's grammatically incorrect.
3:45 AM
@hichris123 At my old job I did a lot of work with 3D modelling and made myself a shirt that said "I FUCKING HATE TRIANGLES"
@hichris123 agrees
@hichris123 Reform teh grammarz
Weirdly nobody found it offensive at the office.
YO @Jamal.
@InfiniteRecursion I really don't know…
3:45 AM
Yay, Jamal.
While we're on the topic (we're not…), THAT'S NOT 3 NOTIFICATION!
Ask it!
29 mins ago, by bjb568
Should I post my markdown parser on CR? (… or would they think I am crazy for asking 2 questions about different markdown parsers?)
… you just did with ur onebox.
3:48 AM
... coz you weren't
(brb, need to DUMP water on my stupid physical body to wash off parasites)
Greatest question title yet. (Not vandalized, this was the original title).
Q: ...........................

davidThe texas coast is 367 miles long. One day, 30 school groups pick up trash along the coast. Each group cleans up a different part of the coastline, each groups part is the same length, a whole number of miles. What is greatest number of whole miles of coast that any one group could clean up?

@Unihedron thanks, it's a very useful query, far less depressing than the cvq
Wrong site, try academia.stackexchange.com. — J0e3gan 1 min ago
Ugh, I flagged this comment for being a dup, then realized that it was auto-generated.
I auto-upvoted it too.
Smokey is offline until a bug is fixed in ChatExchange.
4:15 AM
So… should I post my markdown thing?
… while I sleep.
@hichris123 What bug?
@balpha around perchance?
@Andy See CHQ. On mobile so can't get a link for you. :/
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 11 mins ago, by hichris123
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "ws.py", line 26, in <module>
  File "/home/family/Documents/SmokeDetector/ChatExchange/chatexchange/client.py
", line 140, in login
  File "/home/family/Documents/SmokeDetector/ChatExchange/chatexchange/browser.p
y", line 183, in login_se_chat
    login_request = self.post(login_url, data, referer_header, with_chat_root=Fa
  File "/home/family/Documents/SmokeDetector/ChatExchange/chatexchange/browser.p
Yeah, ^
4:20 AM
It's 5:20 in Berlin, so... spammers can post safely for a while. :(
@hichris123 Odd. I'm not encountering that with zephyr at all.
... did you kill it & restart it?
Zephyr has been restarted in the last 20 minutes
... do you use SE open id?
4:26 AM
@gnat to be completely clear, that link really is specifically for reporting the profile itself, not the user to whom the profile belongs. Think "user's avatar is blatant pornography" or "user's about me is racist tirade." Issues with posts and site behaviors should still almost always go through the "classic" flagging system. — Pops ♦ 5 hours ago
^ From the new "report this profile" interface, this was not clear to me at all.
not clear to a lot of people
I've already written a macro for handling these reports
Ditch the link, then?
won't say exactly what it does, but it's titled "bogus report profile"
probably rename it
if it gets too annoying, we may just turn it off
only rarely do folks need to report folks who haven't done anything
4:32 AM
@LynnCrumbling naa get declined frequently - see this, I flagged naa, mod declined, this, this
Editing in the external fiddle content probably makes more sense than deletion.
I already decided not to flag NAA if it's not a clear case... trying not to be too aggressive in moderation
@Rafflesiaarnoldii declining flags is ok, atleast they can leave a comment for me to inform me what I am doing wrong, educating author is good, educating flagger might be an option too
I finally went to MSO to find out what was I doing wrong, and now that post has become a war-zone
Also, flagging doesn't mean deletion is the only option, they can remedy the problem as they see fit
Right. I'm staying away from MSO warzones for now. Should suggest 10 more edits, to downvote on meta. But am lazy.
ok, I will find posts that need editing for you, I find typos in almost all the posts I read :/
The MSO post did help me understand their expectations though, so I gained something out of it. No more flagging naa's till I get 10k and earn the privilege to cast del votes
4:44 AM
You need 20K to vote to delete answers.
ok, then target upgraded to 20K
And on accepted answers it does not work anyway. Only mods can delete those.
ok, then no can help the present situation, target dropped
Also, I'd have no problem finding posts that need editing; it's just that I'm kind of tired of editing in general. (I'm #2 in edits on Math for this year.)
Cool :)
@AndrewT. protip: flagging naas is risky, there was a rant here, saying "I will bounty this post when I get time blah blah blah", and the author marked it as the accepted answer, so naa was declined for that rant. Ani deleted it after I linked it here
if there is something that needs deletion, chat is a better option :)
5:10 AM
#Inf: You're welcome, free from audits as well but be careful not to misclose a question and enrage the mods ;)
#Uni Sure, I will keep that in mind and be very careful
Ohh, spam already, so early in the morning the spammers
5:15 AM
yeah, we just woke up, but they already started working hard :/
New participant on the meta? :P hiya @Raf
Wasn't the meta 404 page a star trek picture
se 404 is a cute panda
it's the maths wiz #Uni, he is raf now
BTW since mods can delete accepted answers, upgrade target to getting mod :P
cute panda is on SE error page stackexchange.com/error
SE 404 is a panda signboard stackexchange.com/404
Ohh the signboard is cute too
@InfiniteRecursion It's just a boring "404" graphic.
5:23 AM
"Maths" is British form. Not valid on US-based SE.
look at drupal error drupal.stackexchange.com/error
@Rafflesiaarnoldii what's valid in US?
Change drupal page not found graphics to "spam nuked"
Math. As in math.stackexchange, although the server does accept maths.stackexchange as an alias.
cooking 404 and error are cute too
blank on mobile ;(
5:26 AM
Change drupal "Ask Question" button to "Post Spam"
inb4 FR of renaming Drupal to Whack-a-Spam
@InfiniteRecursion That picture looks like the result of a long day at the office.
I like to imagine it led to a passive-aggressive note on the fridge about taking other peoples' eggs, too.
@Unihedron this is their error image
5:31 AM
^ Yup, definitely a note on the fridge.
Which reminds me, this is a good opportunity to waste some time on passiveaggressivenotes.com.
@bjb568 if it werkz itz gud
the best 404 and error pages are on patents and bicycles
least good are the stackapps and SU 404 and error pages :/
err... (android error)
5:42 AM
^ So awesome
Best job ever
Just read it, I'll do something about it
@Rafflesiaarnoldii now at -8 :(
5:58 AM
Gone finally.
@InfiniteRecursion gone
that was quick!
seems most of wake up
6:11 AM
A: Is it fair for me to drink caffeine during tests?

MoriartyYou might find that your university policy prohibits any beverages except water during exams. Coffee has a strong aroma that can be distracting, especially to the less-awake students who might then crave coffee. Even if coffee had no aroma, it would still be distracting. A cup of tea or coffee i...

7:08 AM
Spam nuked
CV - closed
@Unihedron that's a classic though.. I Remember everyone spelling boobless or boobs with a calculator in 5th grade
@cVplZ hehe :P
I spelled "google" once
Think of all the traffic that question would bring to the site.
7:19 AM
Reopen vote? seriously?
closed and closed
@cVplZ voted
@Rafflesiaarnoldii same argument applies to all homework dumps on SO
7:20 AM
sry wrong link
Calculator spelling (also known as beghilos, the alphabet of available letters) is a technique of spelling words by reading characters upside-down from calculators equipped with certain kinds of seven-segment displays. It is a form of transformation of text. == Description == An unintended characteristic of the seven-segment display is that many numbers, when read upside-down, resemble letters of the Latin alphabet. Each digit can be mapped to one or more letters, creating a limited but functional subset of the alphabet. The graphic below illustrates with the sequence "250714638" appearing inverted...
Localized HW dumps aren't of much value. Broadly applicable HW dumps are useful. "How to find the points where the tangent line is horizontal" is one of classics on Math.
@Unihedron looks like spam
flagged as spam
7:22 AM
also the question needs nuking
same URL as the answer linked by CVPLZ.
We need Gram to root-review the user profile when someone posts rev-ewipls (user link) ;)
who's gram? you mean @gham
in Low Quality Posts HQ, Oct 17 at 10:36, by Sam
Please note: if you have found a bug or have a feature request, please create a new "issue" here.
maidenhead created accounts on several sites, may be worth watching for a while.'
@sam please wake up pham
Actually, why not monitor the autobiographer badge across the trilogy?
7:29 AM
Spam gone
needs moar downvotes
@MatthieuGrieger pro-tip: don't suggest migration or repost of a question until read enough of it ;-) — Jan Dvorak 11 secs ago
I can haz [feature-request] tag badge!!
I'm halfway to gold dup hammer for discussion tag on meta.SO!
gotta start building your dupe repository already ;-)
7:45 AM
@JanDvorak BOOM
@cVplZ who is Mark Booth and why should he be in the Tavern?
Then why you people having puzzles tag? i don't expect these silly comments from you people. i will not come again to this site again.bye. — haripriya 1 min ago
@cVplZ I already got the hammer so if you see any dupe-able question... let me know ;)
> This message has been deleted
@ShadowWizard Mark booth is the yellow guy that never talks but is always here: usually in the bottom right corner of the users.
@JanDvorak gone
found by peeking at the autobiographer badge on SO ;-)
@JanDvorak interesting way to dig for spam!
7:55 AM
@JanDvorak they accept this kind of question, but I'm not sure how far they will accept it.
realised the data recovery spammer has them on all sites
Dammit! I wanna save money on Black Friday. :-(
@cVplZ oh, yeah... he's here now! Maybe we'll ping him? :-P
@Jamal Black Friday isn't really a holiday/deal day anymore. Most stores opening at like 6pm Thanksgiving Thursday this year
7:58 AM
@Uni @Uni @Uni @Uni @Uni @Uni @Uni @Uni @Uni morning!
@ShadowWizard umm...

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