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12:23 AM
 
1:16 AM
@jcolebrand - YW ;-)
Well, thanks for the invite.
 
I'm hipster like that ... get in before everyone else, then yawn and talk about how passe it all is
 
2:05 AM
Well, I'm seeing an "invite" button.
Invites are opening again. Anyone want a plus invite?
 
2:38 AM
@Moshe once again you lag slow :p I invited someone about 3 hours ago ... granted, I follow a lot of high-order tech-journalists on twitter so :p
 
3:20 AM
I require moar invites
 
@mootinator check your email kevin
 
3:35 AM
Nothing yet.
 
I can't have too many friends on linkedin that live in Sask
 
Yep.
 
ok, well then invites may be closed again ... idk
check your spam filters?
 
Who knows.
I can't see Google filtering itself out.
 
I can't either
 
3:41 AM
Ahh.
Reverting my spaztastic changes from this afternoon, and doing it the less stupid way took me all of 5 minutes.
 
lmao
dont' you hate that?
Also, when it comes time to start a new project, if you're doing ADO.NET stuff in C#, I would HIGHLY suggest using dapper instead
 
@jcolebrand Oh?
 
indeed
 
Oh my.
 
you know how you do stuff like:
using (var con = new SqlConnection (dbConnectionString)){
  var cmd = new SqlCommand() {/*options*/};
  cmd.Parameters.Add( /* blah */ );

  using (var reader = cmd.ExecuteQuery()){
    /* assign to an object */
  }
}
the same thing in dapper takes less lines than I've already typed
and it's as fast as that, since it builds down to IL at compile time
 
3:50 AM
aha
 
trust me, it's insanely nice to have around
This is one of those "once you use it" things
 
Fixing my relation didn't fix things.
Now I'm entirely unsure what the problem is.
 
rubber duck it
 
Probably an NH bug.
Yup.
I have a References relation pointing to an entity with a HasMany set to not lazyload.
 
Didn't downvotes used to effectively "increase" the repcap?
 
3:57 AM
And if I create an alias to that table in my query, it returns a copy of the root entity for each of the children in the HasMany relation.
 
that is, if I downvoted someone, and paid my -1 rep, shouldn't I be able to earn that back?
 
No
That changed
or at least, as I recall that changed
 
ok
fair enough
 
> Your Amazon.com order of "{snip}" has shipped!
yay!!!
My birthday gift is on its way :D
 
Soo, simply replacing Fetch.Join with any other fetching strategy solves my problem.
 
4:03 AM
hmmmmm
 
Ewwww.
 
4:19 AM
A little feedback ya'll? If you can comment on stuff, that would be cool (not sure how googledocs would allow that but whatever)

The intent is for it to end up going in a binder for "selling the group" ... the intended viewers on this are going to be prospective employers looking to move into the area as well as politicians and government groups. This is intended to be a simple sharing tool for the non-technical members of my group's collab group.

Please don't ask me to adopt radical layouts or lots of colors, this will need to be conservatively printed and may be updated frequently (mean
FWIW the plan is to print about 30 copies of this and take them with me tomorrow to the group and let them disect things as well. Then as I get feedback we'll update the "template" and then collect information from everyone on what they want to share
 
4:38 AM
The best design advice from me is no advice.
(According to my old theatre design professor anyhow :P)
 
lol
does it look readable enough?
Do I need to take away from the "short bio" and add more whitespace?
Wow, up to 8 viewers already ... nice
 
Seems readable.
 
Thanks
 
If I had one criticism, my eyes didn't seem to know where to start reading.
 
valid criticism
I'm hoping that when it's printed out and doesn't have as many lines (I need those visible for layout purposes) that it seems easier to read.
If you have an idea on how to focus the eyes, I'm all ... ears
 
4:48 AM
@jcolebrand The tables are indeed a little distracting. Couldn't the data in them become sentences with emphasis?
 
well my thought was a "datasheet" not quite a resume
more words seems more like a resume
 
Hi TimPost,How are you?
 
@jcolebrand Maybe try orienting the tables vertically? Put the column names on the left?
 
maybe left and right of the photo?
here's what it'll look like with lighter lines, fwiw
 
Hi @Manjot - Doing well, trying to get through a bout of the flu without taking decongestants, they make me sleepy
 
4:51 AM
I am also suffering from Viral,fever,cough,body-ache,vomitting etc
 
@jcolebrand The lighter lines help a bit, but it still sort of runs together. Perhaps bold the column headings?
 
Maybe bold headings so they're distinguished from the data?
 
@mootinator yeah I was thinking that too
 
So was @TimPost :)
 
I only did it tonight in about 30 minutes ... I've been contemplating it for a month, and I am going to share it tomorrow. This should just be a rough idea at this point.
 
4:53 AM
I see youuuu.
 
@jcolebrand I can read it just fine, but my eyes have to go over the tables a couple of times to figure out where to read. You could also make them vertical and put them on either side of the graphic
 
the view should have updated
 
It looks better now
 
You left Kev? :p
Yeah, I think so too
 
You know what it needs/
 
4:55 AM
lol
I can still be nervous tho ;)
 
will that paste as an image directly? Let's find out
 
I did that wrong, lol
 
lol
I know it seems a bit dumb to put a QR code on a sheet like this, but we are techy and if someone is a freelancer, that would help it pop for their benefit
 
I mean I put no data in that QR code.
 
5:00 AM
I thought it said "http://www.website.com"
I'll find out
 
Yeah, no that's what this one says
 
Anyways ... :p letting people get a feel for this sort of thing will be enough for now
 
I can't read my own String.Format, that's all :)
 
lol
 
Eesh, night.
 
5:09 AM
ok, refresh chat, how's my new gravatar?
 
5:23 AM
@jcolebrand WHAT DO YOU MEAN TWITTER/CHAT? THEY'RE THE SAME!!!
 
lmao
I just said that
 
GIMME GIMME GIMME!!!
 
facebook has one, twitter and SEI have a second (along with gravatar and therefore all related gravatar sites) and G+ has a third.
 
@jcolebrand chacha102@gmail.com
 
I had a feeling
 
5:25 AM
Too bad apps isn't ready yet..
 
meh
 
Missed the period, but I'll make sure to keep trying
 
durn
 
Oh wells
 
2 hours ago, by jcolebrand
https://plus.google.com/103456669592604011666/posts/AkofXGg1eai
 
5:28 AM
I probably will be on chat more often
Also, I've been gone for the last 5 hours, so that wouldn't have helped
 
Last time they closed invites after ~ six hours they said. This time it was less than three.
 
So is it good?
 
I like it
I wanna see how much further they go with it
 
Yeah...
Google has a history of not being united..
all the different parts kinda don't work together
 
So far this is pretty good
 
5:32 AM
Would be nice if they did
 
the +1 icon is consistent but search +1 don't mesh with g+ +1
the picasa albums are linked to the profile
I haven't created a music profile (I should I imagine) so I don't know if that's integrated yet
But by and large, most of their services either are integrated or seem to be heading that way
 
thats good
Still wish that Apps customers were first-class citizens to all of this, or at least there would be a way to not have my main account be @gmail.com..
I don't know why, but I just hate that...
 
meh, I wanna merge my two @gmail's into one
I think having an "alias" is a valid design decision
As is I just have things get forwarded from the one to the other on gmail and forget the other exists
I also have yet to walk my dog for the last time tonight
I should probably do that
 
Bah, my video didn't upload correctly to Facebook
which means I have to upload it to my computer, then facebook
 
lovely
 
6:01 AM
Anyone around with 20k rep? I just botched the tag-wiki excerpt for and now I can't edit it (or suggest edits for it).
I didn't realize that the excerpts don't parse Markdown. :-/
 
7:01 AM
@jcolebrand - Nice new gravater.
 
7:18 AM
yawns Hmm, waking up at 3 am seems a bit wrong...I might need to practice this whole sleep thing more.
 
7:33 AM
but Why did you woke up at 3am?
 
That's a good question. I fell asleep quite early, so it seems I can only sleep for so many hours.
 
8:05 AM
@TimStone lol
 
So when did UPS and FedEx start delivering on weekends (well, Saturdays) for any service type?
 
Hmm and you did not import from the US to oversea country.
I'm waiting for my package for a month now...
So you know... saturdays...
 
"What's New in Thunderbird?" Somehow they forgot the bullet "It's ugly as sin"
Nice of them to lie about which extensions wouldn't be compatible too.
 
8:27 AM
:D
 
sighs Now I have to go find the developers so I can punch them in the face.
Oh, at least they did one thing right. Installing extensions is a bit easier now.
 
@TimStone Aye, the new Windows theme is very bad. May I suggest looking through the list of themes for a better one
Mr. Disappointment lives up to his name
 
@YiJiang heh.
 
@YiJiang win :D
 
8:42 AM
sounds a bit engrish...oh god I am not good at this how can I edit flag
 
@YiJiang edited
No more fun now :S
 
@YiJiang I wasn't aware that it was possible for a menu bar to lag, but they managed it. Of course, 80% of the themes seem incompatible with Thunderbird 5, gah.
 
@TimStone Ouch. Well Silvermel, which I previously used, was updated. OTOH, the new conversations add-on works pretty well
 
Hmm, I'll give it a look then, thanks.
 
8:53 AM
:D
 
Tags?
1 question = 1 answer?
XD
 
Google thinks the tags page is a question, and that each of the question is an answer
 
@TimStone You're right its just ugly now...
 
@MarcGravell What are these shiny features of which you speak? :P
 
When will mozilla put some On the fly module install
 
8:59 AM
Looking though the transcript, saw an image, clicked on it for a larger version, WTF?
 
9:24 AM
@YiJiang The unicorns are attacking! Behold the end of days!
 
@TimStone : XD you're faster than me :P
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A: Encountering this error /usr/bin/ld: final link failed: No space left on device

M'vyYou may want to check : What filesystem do you have. e.g. FAT32 does not allow more than 2GB files. Is there i-node available, df -i. You can have multiple files that are smaller than the block size, then you have free space but cannot create more file since I-node list is full. On both cases...

sigh
 
@MarcGravell Since someone deleted the original (I assume because it was ultralocalized), can you kill the dupe too?
 
Does OP stands for hOPless?
 
Heh
 
10:13 AM
@Tim deletificated
 
Thanks!
 
10:29 AM
@TimStone but man! Think of all the glassy surfaces.
 
@badpssockpuppet You're leaving your fingerprints all over them
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Q: Design for IT Security

JinI'm Jin, and I'll be working on the designs for the Stack Exchange sites as they graduate from the beta phase. Each site will have its own unique theme that will reflect its topic. However, all sites will share quite a bit of common elements so they feel like they're part of the Stack Exchange fa...

IT Security is going to graduate. It's been a while since a site came out of beta, hmmmm
 
@YiJiang That's an awesome t-shirt design.
 
11:23 AM
@badpssockpuppet So what's the strategy to Audiosurf? I get 95%+ of the blocks, and avoid all the greys, but people end up with much higher scores than I have. I'm willing to admit I suck, I'm just not sure what I'm sucking at :P
 
@TimStone I think the single thing that makes the most difference is the combo system
 
@YiJiang almost one year
 
did you notice that the lower bar bounces every time you clear some blocks?
that lower bar is some sort of multiplicator.
For example earlier while trying pro dual vision I got a shower of purple and blue blocks
I hit most of them and got like 60k points out of it
however for ninja... eh, there's not much you can do
 
Hmm, alright
 
Oh
One more thing
If you want you can play in ironmode
More blocks, more points, but less forgiving
 
11:55 AM
Poe's law challenge: Is galileowaswrong.blogspot.com a parody or serious?
 
Too boring to be parody?
 
@mootinator It looks like it might be serious. I haven't watched any of the videos in case I might lose brain cells watching them
 
 
hahahahaha
 
12:12 PM
I reshared, and ugh - it's flashing across my stream...
At least the logo is neat. (Although an email client doesn't live on it's icon.)
 
12:38 PM
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A: Vaadin edit json response

vinayakaI would like to inform to forum to get few examples on JSON which works with Vaadin Project. The Actual Procedure is as shown below Point 1: We get the Java Objects from Server Point 2: Converting Java Objects into JSON Point 3: Solution Required: How to integrate JSON with Vaadin Project. A...

Google translated post?
Anyway, it looks like a question, not an answer. Flagged.
 
1:16 PM
oh snap, i missed the quotes.
interesting plug-in I would never use: stackoverflow.com/questions/6611159/…
 
@TimStone - I caved and posted my question about PostgreSQL on superuser.
(Of course, if anyone else knows of an answer, feel free.)
 
@Moshe Several server-type apps come with a .conf.sample or similar, and you need to remove the .sample to enable it. Can you try removing that and restarting the server?
 
I still don't get what the actual issue is.
 
(after editing the conf file, obviously)
and, why are you using a blank password? wasn't one selected/provided during setup?
 
@TimStone Using a blank password disables my ability to connect to the db or to change the password.
 
1:29 PM
using a blank password is bad practice
 
@Fosco It was, but I encountered some issues and thought that for learning the dev environment that removing it would be the quickest.
 
So you somehow gave the root user a blank password?
 
@Fosco I'm aware. :-D I would have like to have had this done yesterday, for someone, but yea...
@TimStone Yep
 
Putting *:*:<database>:<user>:<password> in ~/.pgpass, chmod 0600 .pgpass is actually the quickest, but..
 
@TimStone but?
 
1:31 PM
"but you didn't do that", basically.
 
oh
ok
What would the database be?
 
that .conf file is how you control/configure the server... don't know what to tell you about the password stuff. once it's up and running, you need to create a database.
 
Whatever you named the database that you want to connect to.
Anyway
You need to modify pg_hba.conf and give the postgres user full trust
Then it should just let you in once you restart the server.
I have no idea where that is on a Mac though, it's in /var/lib/pgsql/data/ by default on Linux installs.
 
you should post an answer and get some rep for that on SU, Tim.
 
I've successfully avoided becoming a SU member so far, so :)
 
1:34 PM
lol
 
Well, it's a good place to jumpstart your shiny new account from! :-D
 
im on there with 99 rep.. must've downvoted something
 
# TYPE DATABASE USER CIDR-ADDRESS METHOD

@remove-line-for-nolocal@# "local" is for Unix domain socket connections only
@remove-line-for-nolocal@local all all trust
# IPv4 local connections:
host all all 127.0.0.1/32 trust
# IPv6 local connections:
host all all ::1/128 trust
^--- What pg_hba.conf looks like...
 
Oh, so it's already set to trust.
 
you should be able to log in from the command-line...
 
1:37 PM
psql -U postgres doesn't let you in?
 
where are you trying to connect from?
 
@TimStone - command psql not found
I need to at it to my path, yes?
yesterday, by Moshe
Time to cram Ruby and Rails down my throat while suffering from the heat.
 
Or just go to Postgres' bin directory.
 
@TimStone blasphemer
 
Ah, ok
 
1:41 PM
@jcolebrand I know, I know, I should be omnipresent across the network. But I haven't even gotten around to getting a proper gravatar yet, so I suggest we don't hold our breaths ;)
 
I .. uh ... yeah, I'm barely omnipresent myself ... speaking of, I have an outstanding chat.se DM to go look at
 
@TimStone can't find that now either...
feels dumb
 
The Postgres site says that the installation package comes with pgAdmin, which should likely be the same for these purposes, Finder can't locate it?
 
I have pgAdmin installed, but again, to change the password there must be one...
 
Er, why?
If you're logging in as the postgres user it shouldn't prompt you for the password, and the password dialog doesn't ask you for the old password when you change it.
 
1:48 PM
oh, I see what you're saying
let me see if I can get the pgAdmin tool running from the postgre user
nope
Didn't work.
I could uninstall and reinstall...
It would take about 10 minutes and I don't think it would cause any harm. No data yet. :-D
 
At this point I'm unsure what you've managed to do, so that seems like the best option.
 
@TimStone :-D
 
5 hours ago, by Tim Stone
sighs Now I have to go find the developers so I can punch them in the face.
Reiterated, but for a different set of developers.
I feel like this isn't the most positive way to start the day.
 
\o/
s3kr1Tz :-D
lulz
going with something dumber for now
 
-12
Q: I want to convert the posted value “HELLO” to "hello" in Zend framework

Justin ZEND beginnerI'm working with php and Zend. In the text field if, supose, user posts the vallue "hello" but in case, if he posts from MS Word in the browser we get “HELLO” . I want to convert this value before inserting the "hello" into the database, so that it can be read by XML file in I-phone. Can anyone h...

Is this... a real case of broken Caps lock key?
 
1:58 PM
> if he posts from MS Word in the browser
wut?
 
Look at the original question, then look at the comments
 
@YiJiang lol... its really about the smart-quotes that word uses...
 
I have audibly started cracking up
 
nothing at all to do with text-case. wow.
 
> HI FRIENDS THE FORMATTING HAS CHANGED AFTER I POSTED THE QUESTION BUT TRY ADDING "GOOD" FROM WORD TO UR UR BROWSER TEXT FIELD THEN U WILL KNOW THE DIFFERNCE . – Justin ZEND beginner 1d ago
 
1:59 PM
I know, but why in the world is he posting in ALL CAPS? Not just the question, but also the comments
 
He wants to make sure we can hear him...
 
@YiJiang The best part was that the "hello" wasn't capitalized. :D
 
didn't work...
ugh
 
What didn't work?
 
now it has a second user called "root" which is prolly the old postgres user
resintalling
wont let me use the password i set earlier
 
2:01 PM
O_o
 
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A: I want to convert the posted value “HELLO” to "hello" in Zend framework

Justin ZEND beginnerhi friends has u didnt help i found a simple answer myself $a = $post['answer_text']; $input = iconv('UTF-8', 'ASCII//TRANSLIT', $a); and it works like wonder u people played with my reputaion :P i dont care hehe

 
Wait. Progress.
 
"To encourage him to do better" Well, speaking English might be a good start...
Also, is the link link broken for anyone?
 
My downloaded pgAdmin tool is giving me an error, however, Rails seems to connect and find that the db is not set up yet.
 
Hmm?
 
2:02 PM
Good, I suppose
 
@YiJiang I don't really understand why that one user edited for the purpose of "eliminating all caps", but then didn't address everything else that was wrong with that question.
 
Clicking on didn't give me the usual popup box with the link, instead it worked like before they introduced that
 
Ah, works alright for me.
 
I did some edits, cleaned up his question...
 
There is a JavaScript error for the link button
event is not defined
cdn.sstatic.net/js/full.js?v=46b275acee48
Line 1
... hardly helpful. Firefox 5, as usual
 
2:07 PM
Repro'ed, sec.
Oh yeah, what the hell?
function (f) {
    if (!event.ctrlKey && !event.metaKey) {
        d($(this), e.showCitation);
        return false;
    }
}
 
Ping @balpha
 
There must have been a relatively recent change there.
Since that wasn't in the copy of full.js that I had saved.
 
@YiJiang he ain't ever getting out of downvote hell ...
 
I've never had a sticker or emblem or anything like that on any of my vehicles, but if I was going to have one it would be Calvin peeing on either Java or XML.
@jcolebrand I wish there were a way to recommend to those who down-voted it to look again now that it's been edited...
 
Me too
@TimStone from whence came this bounty?
 
2:16 PM
Hmm?
 
@jcolebrand It's a dupe, he wrts liek dis, AND SCREAMS WITH BROKEN KEYBOARD, hi friends. I don't know, I don't exactly think he's worth keeping around
 
ok but that particular question is ok
@TimStone full.js
is it a dupe?
 
Oh, I make jsbeautified copies of the Stack Overflow javascript files on a regular basis to make debug meddling easier on myself.
 
> @jfar: Either way, it's a dupe of how-to-replace-microsoft-encoded-quotes-in-php, and should be nuked with prejudice, coming from CAPSVILLE. – p.campbell 18h ago
@TimStone I don't know, it seems only polite they give you access to their version control now that you're working for Stack Exchange...
 
Hahah, we can all dream the good dream ;)
 
2:18 PM
@YiJiang which he proceeded to place his answer on... and I had to edit it. I guess you're right, he isn't worth keeping around when people have to walk behind him and clean up.
 
reading later through the comments, it does look like a good dupe candidate
Fosco are you gonna do the dupeclosefavors?
 
I was vote #2... dupe close vote #1... first vote was a different reason.
@jcolebrand new photo!
 
@Fosco Aye, merci!
@Fosco ok, Tim did it
 
> Closed by The Tavern
 
lmao
Look, we don't close stuff out of spite, they are legitimate close reasons
So if anyone wants to take it up with the army of us :p
 
2:23 PM
lmao
For this issue, Firebug's stack trace is incredibly wrong.
It gets the error correct, but puts the issue in a completely different function.
 
I don't want another social network :(
 
Then don't join one
some of us are googlephiles tho
 
@TimStone Hmm, this issue is also more recent than my copy.
Almost forgot to call into a meeting, whoops.
Hmm, something about the new wmd.js doesn't play nice with jsbeautifier.
 
@TimStone I thought the symptoms look like that just resolved bug which was caused by the deployment of a new version of wmd.js
 
2:38 PM
I think this is slightly different.
StackExchange.editor.initIfShown(d) { } now has an additional check for d.postfix, but it's called from the profile edit page with no parameter.
I think prepareEditor() used on the questions page uses StackExchange.editor.init(d) directly, if I remember.
 
Parameters are slow and bloat. They probably have been optimized away.
 
Although you're probably right, it's likely due to the same change.
 
Everybody knows your code runs much faster if you inline everything.
 
@badpssockpuppet alert("Done"); // optimized
 
@TimStone "Done"; // optimized
 
2:43 PM
@YiJiang //optimized
 
@jcolebrand
 
@badpssockpuppet touche
 
The fastest, stablest server is the server that does nothing at all.
 
hint, demonstrating a feature with if (!CurrentUser.IsDeveloper){ return PageNotFound(); } #fails in certain conditions
 
@badpssockpuppet kind of like: The only secure windows box is the one with no floppy/cd drives, no input devices, no usb ports, and no network access.
 
2:50 PM
watch out for the gremlins.
 
Watch out for the bugs that get caught in the fans
 
Oh look, just who we wanted to blame!
 
not my fault
what are we talking about? >_<
 
Heheh, no, it's actually not.
 
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