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We tried to link the http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/29480/french-language-usage proposal in the corresponding chat room topic using the traditional : [French Language and Usage](http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/29480/french-language-usage) But it does not work. Could we hav...

jcolebrand

I just meant the display inconsistency

M'vy

Oh I'm feature :D

jcolebrand

EVERYBODY UPVOTE!!!!

Tim Stone

Well, the inconsistency follows from the design, so :P

jcolebrand

So on another note ... if anyone followed my discussions last night about the mockup thing for my social group ... printouts turned out nice with the lighter lines ... should be good for discussions tonight :D

Rebecca Chernoff

3:09 PM

the link button seems to be working ok for me.

Tim Stone

I think I was asleep somehow. But I'll assume it was interesting and go "Hooray!" ayour success.

@RebeccaChernoff The bug is browsers-that-don't-set-a-global-event-object-specific, so you won't repro in Chrome.

Presumably event should just be renamed to whatever the unminified parameter for that function is.

badp's sockpuppet

So it seems I'm not going to see languages.SE before I start my erasmus after all

Rebecca Chernoff

@TimStone ...so it isn't a bug then? q:

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff It is a bug, someone named the variable incorrectly.

It just happens to work in some browsers because of IE-behaviour.

Rebecca Chernoff

I was being sarcastic that if it isn't a problem with Chrome...

Yi Jiang

3:13 PM

@RebeccaChernoff Well see here, I have this giant Firefox...

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff Oh. :p

badp's sockpuppet

@YiJiang Oh dear, that's horrible.

Fosco

I'm normally more than polite dealing with businesses, but I just had to be rude to this Codero 'Account Representative'... I told him he could be replaced by a bot.

Tim Stone

I may need more caffeine. Or less caffeine.

badp's sockpuppet

@Fosco Bah. The correct sentence is "a very small shell script"

Fosco

3:15 PM

Nice :)

Yi Jiang

@badpssockpuppet ... with which I'm itching to smash a head or two in

Tim Stone

I think that counts as animal abuse.

Rebecca Chernoff

so on a more serious note, I haven't had caffeine yet, so which variable name is incorrect?

badp's sockpuppet

Indeed. calls the WWF

Yi Jiang

@TimStone Don't blame me, blame Mozilla who set them on fire

Tim Stone

3:17 PM

1 hour ago, by Tim Stone

function (f) {
    if (!event.ctrlKey && !event.metaKey) {
        d($(this), e.showCitation);
        return false;
    }
}

event should match f (whatever f really is)

Yi Jiang

I think it's more likely the code minifier has a bug

Tim Stone

That's possible too, but it does seem to work fine elsewhere, I assume. Or they just don't call the variables event anywhere else.

Fosco

@badpssockpuppet I just tweeted about it, mentioning the company... i wonder if i'll hear from them...

Tim Stone

(That's a handler bound in StackExchange.question.init by the way)

Chacha102

Hello

Tim Stone

3:20 PM

'Ello

jcolebrand

Tyler!

Chacha102

Playing a little TF2 before work

jcolebrand

Don't change the room description ;)

We needed it to be "welded on" since pinning leaves things to fall by the wayside

Chacha102

Is it ever my fault?

If not I blame ... eh.. wait for it.... @waffles!

jcolebrand

Not that I know of

You could always investigate the source

Note the time this article was published http://bit.ly/qIF1uU Does @HoustonChron have a sense of humor?

Tweeted by jaylee on July 7, 2011 at 3:17 PM

jcolebrand

4:12 PM

Ok, I need help figuring something out ... who wants to help me rubberduck some javascript?

[ [Date.UTC(yy,mm,dd,hh,mm,ss),Value], [Date.UTC(yy,mm,dd,hh,mm,ss),Value] ] is a valid array, right? Now, how do I write this as C# or Java code?

I like asking in the javascript room but apparently I'm on room-mute over there :p

Also, I'm not sure how to write that for a proper Stack Overflow Q

Tim Stone

Can you elaborate a bit? I might be slow this morning, but I'm not sure what you're getting at.

jcolebrand

[ [Date.UTC(yy,mm,dd,hh,mm,ss),Value], [Date.UTC(yy,mm,dd,hh,mm,ss),Value] ] is a valid JSON array, right?

that's #1

ignore that I don't have actual numbers in place of all the placeholders, they make it harder to work with

#2 is how to write that JSON array as a C#/Java array

(because really C# and Java are close enough I can figure it out from the other)

#3 is if I can't figure it out here, how do I write the Q properly for a SO Q. I'm too close to the problem.

Hence the plea for rubberducking help

Fosco

Date.UTC()... why would that be valid in JSON... you mean the output?.. is it output as a string?

Tim Stone

The Date.UTC() bit isn't valid JSON, is it?

jcolebrand

@Fosco eventually yes

Fosco

4:18 PM

Can you just use a Dictionary<string,string> ? (C#)

jcolebrand

I think I need to use a string[][2] or something

Fosco

var jcole = new Dictionary<string,string>();

jcole.add("7/7/2011 12:19:00.000","wow");

Tim Stone

String[][] stuff = new String[][] {
    { someDate, someValue },
    { someDate, someValue }
};

..? :P

Fosco

or that... could use the same syntax to set up the dictionary values in the new statement too.

jcolebrand

Yeah, I think that's what I'm gonna have to do ... lemme just go write some code and totally bastardize what I was doing before :\

and now I have to leave ... well, the code will hold till I get back, I hope

Fosco

4:28 PM

hopeless: stackoverflow.com/questions/6613890/…

Rebecca Chernoff

void Main() {
	var dates = new Dictionary<DateTime, string>() {
		{ new DateTime(2011, 7, 7, 11, 17, 23), "Thursday 11:17am" },
		{ new DateTime(2011, 7, 6, 15, 48, 32), "Wednesday 3:48pm" }
	};
	var x = new JavaScriptSerializer().Serialize(dates.Select(d=>new [] { d.Key.ToString("yy,mm,dd,hh,mm,ss"), d.Value }));
	x.Dump();
}

(the .Dump() is LINQPad)... outputs [["11,17,07,11,17,23","Thursday 11:17am"],["11,48,06,03,48,32","Wednesday 3:48pm"]]

Fosco

nicely done Ms. Chernoff (:

Rebecca Chernoff

also, if you don't use LINQPad...you should. (; so damn handy

I just randomly went with a Dictionary...a list of Tuples or a custom object or whatever would work, concept is the same.

Fosco

"Tired of querying in antiquated SQL?"... No, actually I am not tired of it.. at all.

Rebecca Chernoff

oh, and just in case: @jcolebrand, read ^^^ (:

Chacha102

4:34 PM

Bah, I guess I have to do what regular people do: Work....

Rebecca Chernoff

> And LINQPad is more than a LINQ tool: it's an ergonomic C#/VB/F# scratchpad that instantly executes any expression, statement block or program with rich output formatting – the ultimate in dynamic development. Put an end to those hundreds of Visual Studio Console projects cluttering your source folder!

Fosco

I'm downloading it anyway, just had to comment on that main headline on the site...

Linq is the solution without a problem, imho, and I know I'm almost alone on that one.

Rebecca Chernoff

the Dump extension function is pretty damn handy. Just toss it any object like a list and it'll do a pretty print of its properties

Tim Stone

Does it have a feature that makes me lunch?

Rebecca Chernoff

nope, that'd be your kitchen.

Tim Stone

4:43 PM

Ah. Well, they should set up some web service calls to integrate the two.

Fosco

5:06 PM

6 deleted answers.. wow never seen that many.. stackoverflow.com/questions/6614127/…

badp's sockpuppet

@Fosco perhaps it would be wise to request a protect then?

I usually protect without thinking about it at the third comment as answer

Fosco

@badpssockpuppet hmm? I am not sure what you mean by protect.

I think they all just answered within 2 minutes and then deleted themselves because they were all the same.

badp's sockpuppet

@Fosco um, 10 reputation required to answer?

Fosco

ah.. everyone that deleted has between 300 and 31,000.

Moshe

5:25 PM

Ok, got my rails thing all working and then...

I only blew 3 days and 90 bucks on this. <sarcasm>No biggie. Anytime.</sarcasm>

Fosco

Welcome to the real world. :)

90 bucks for a good lesson, that's not so bad... last one cost me $1,100.

Moshe

Wow. What happened?

Fosco

6:36 PM

Oh... badly written contract. feature X which was absolutely not included, became "we want feature X" even though I was DONE. So I never got the completion fee, because I refused to do feature X, though I did everything else and more.

Chacha102

Hello

Moshe

7:10 PM

Hi

I have to say, as awesome as SE chat is, Google+ Hangouts are incredible.

And, they don't complain when I talk about a certain country/game that starts with an "N" and ends with an "ippon".

@Fosco Ouch.

Chacha102

I'm waiting for my invite to work..

Fosco

@Moshe That happened here?

Chacha102

@Moshe !!!!!

Moshe

@Chacha102 ?

Chacha102

@Moshe You mentioned the N word...

Moshe

7:19 PM

Oh

yea

M'vy

hum the mobile chat seems broken.

Moshe

7:39 PM

Wow.

Hangout.

Nuff said.

Tim Stone

Paging @RebeccaChernoff, we need a code check in aisle 97794, code check in aisle 97794.

Rebecca Chernoff

o:

Tim Stone

Would it be possible to check if deleted answers impact Enlightened? Grace Note thinks no, and I agreed, until I saw this case which suggests that they do.

Although if the potentially deleted answer on this question doesn't exist or wasn't first it doesn't matter much I guess. :p

Oh

Actually I'm just an idiot

The question still stands, but the reason I had doubts doesn't actually suggest anything.

Rebecca Chernoff

8:15 PM

will try to remember later, can't right now

Tim Stone

It's not that important now that I realized there wasn't any reason to suspect otherwise anyway, sorry about that.

Oh, and Nick commented on the relevant Meta question, even better.

Chacha102

8:40 PM

@jcolebrand Your invite won't work. It keeps saying 'exceeded' :P

M'vy

@Chacha102 seems to be the problem for many users today

Chacha102

@Mvy But I'm so much better than all the other users...

M'vy

As pple in the DMZ was trying too and no sucess

@Chacha102 Well you're right, your modesty is a model to the world :D

Chacha102

@Mvy See .. I knew someone would understand...

jcolebrand

@Chacha102 I knew that

@RebeccaChernoff Merci mon cheri, you saved me a bit of figuring.

@RebeccaChernoff is the dictionary inorder as of insert order or should I choose a different format if insert order is important?

Rebecca Chernoff

8:57 PM

I leave that to you to research your data structures (:

jcolebrand

lmao

ok thanks

but anyways, yes yes, thank you for the assist. Mucho appreciado

M'vy

9:18 PM

@jcolebrand Well since Rebecca is a girl, you should say : "merci ma chérie".

jcolebrand

@Mvy except a) I don't speaka da frensh, and b) she's not really ma cherie ... ;)

So aside from all that :S you're probably right

Shog9

Good ol' Ma Cherry

M'vy

was just for the records. Anyone can learn :D

jcolebrand

9:49 PM

Boss just came in my office: "I've forgotten so much of what we have to type ourselves in visual studio, does ReSharper really do that much heavy lifting for us?" (talking about the intellisense etc)

Rebecca Chernoff

So @jcolebrand, what were the results of your data structure research? (:

jcolebrand

still meagerly writing code ... in amongst about six discussions >.>

plus I have to put that datastructure in the middle of some data structures ...

so I'm writing the parts to do all the other work, and I'm just gonna co-opt what you gave and see how it does ...

demongolem

10:05 PM

Hi all, I just saw something strange

jcolebrand

shoot

demongolem

I now have a flag weight of 518.3176!

jcolebrand

Yep

demongolem

Is there any explanation for the decimal points?

jcolebrand

What's the strange part?

Yes, there is, and a lot of it, on meta

demongolem

10:07 PM

Ok I will go search, but that is the first time valid was not worth 10

jcolebrand

7

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support flag-weight

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