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12:31 AM
OH: "Is that a Psyduck? Oh wait, that's your face."
12:59 AM
Mah birthday today!
Happy birthday @JamesENL!
[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in answer: How to fix bad boot resolution in Kubuntu by James F on superuser.com
1:21 AM
No oneboxing :(
You need a direct link - like i.imgur.com/nbTPGv2.jpg
There we go
@tchrist Ahhhh that's a good warning
Is that too annoying?
1:36 AM
I can delete it if it is
I've got a case of the birthday excites
2:32 AM
@JamesENL I'd actually consider this flaggable. Please think before you post.
Photosensitive epilepsy is no laughing matter.
I've decided not to flag this but if you keep posting content like this, I will call in the mods.
in Root Access on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Feb 16 at 18:53, by DavidPostill
I've warned you all before. If you post something that gets flagged we get visited by a horde of mods. Please think before you post.
2:51 AM
Probably best not to flag something like that unless absolutely necessary... we do have room owners (cough) y'know and I asked people if it was too annoying.
If it's a problem feel free to delete
Eh, it'll be off of my screen soon enough... just chat some more. :)
@hichris123 That sounds like a tacit licence to spam
Well... "chat with useful contributions some more" - better? :)
@bwDraco I know, right? Those SE mods are pigs
2:59 AM
3:14 AM
JonEricson (and ᴡᴏʀᴅs) called it a while ago, but now there's a formal issue, which means I probably have to do something now.... ;-; github.com/The-Quill/StackNews/issues/39
oh hey I just bought one of those graphics cards
these few weeks are the ones where old problems didn't get solved and new ones kept coming up
3:59 AM
@JamesENL I believe in showering folks with a year's worth of forbearance and ice cream and cheer and encouragement on their birthdays, practical pranks notwithstanding.
@tchrist Honestly, it wasn't meant to be a prank or anything, it was just a cool little gif I found that basically summed up my mood
The prank was me rolling around on the floor biting my tongue.
@tchrist Really?! Shit I'm so sorry
If you cut your hair shorter we couldn't pull on it this much, chacho.
4:03 AM
The Spanish never pull your leg. Only your hair.
4:39 AM
I wonder who the user that's posted the most messages in one chat room is
Smokey's at ~60000 in Charcoal
4:54 AM
@Quill Does stacknews work for you in Firefox? I don't get infinate scrolling at all. It only loads one page worth of stuff then throws a TypeError
TypeError: t is undefined
Line 18
What version of Firefox are you using
It's transpiled down, so it should be browser compatible
Looks like 47. Seems I'm out of date. Un momento. I'll apply this update and check again.
eh. now 47.0.1
no change.
Okay thanks, if you want to make an issue on the repo, I can take a look at that later :)
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Leuxia meilleure façon possible en retardant by conanyfiaky on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted username, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: the past it was a popular flavoring for soda. Surprisingly by ehelle juriya on drupal.stackexchange.com
5:15 AM
sd 2k
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted username, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: gouged, bled, and sometimes even harmed by the pharma-industrial by ehellejuriya on superuser.com
sd k
sd k
my bad
@SmokeDetector sd fpu
5:33 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Il doit être apporté avec un verre d'eau pour voir la construction musculaire séduisante by agarwalkajal958 on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: testosteronesboosterweb.com/tst-1700/ by cornergems on workplace.stackexchange.com
@JamesENL this was brought to my attention. I'd like to say.... I vaguely resemble that post. Also I'm totally leaving it to the locals to police such things.
I have no power here anyhow
(have work for the next two months) awww yissss
@Quill for whatever reason, I don't get infinite scroll on Chrome 51 for Windows either. There doesn't seem any error either. (tested on incognito already, no extension runs)
That's related to the percentage I set it at
For whatever reason, window scroll is strange on some platforms
I see... I could make it infinite scroll by decreasing the size of the window
Q: How to ask question about a phenomenon that has been wrongly 'understood' at a global level?

displayNameI have a fundamental disagreement with the explanation of a real world phenomenon. That fundamental disagreement renders the current explanations of that phenomenon completely wrong. The simplest way I could think of to bring everyone's attention to it was by asking a question on PSE (Physics St...

Strange questions are strange
6:49 AM
@Quill Then tell me any of the story.
@Quill Haha physicists.
7:16 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body: Who is a top 10 richest celebrities? by Luke Clayton on patents.stackexchange.com
sd k
I see that kind of markup when you post from the App so it seems an app user
Don't understand the title though
Maybe trying to use the app to post spam?
7:25 AM
Could be, but they left comments, right?
So ad USA bomber to return my Mexican to enter — user336273 13 mins ago
Such a wonderful comment, full of meaning.
"USA bomber"
yep, that must not be a troll at all.
7:55 AM
@TIPS you can find it all on the MSE question
I really don't know the entire story any way
You seem to come from the future, having the version of the app that hasn't been released yet. Can you tell me what has changed since 1.0.85? Tank in advantaged. — Portal 44 secs ago
Let the post be nuked...
what even the comments
8:18 AM
@rene done, though it was spam.
it was? How?
8:53 AM
@rene key words for improving search rate.
OP also posted them in comments, but there's bug now so can't see them.
Also, OP account nuked too, so SE employee agree with me. ;)
I do not diasgree with you, I'm just curious to know your spam reasoning as that would have probably been a better call.
9:22 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Cannot fight at Gym by I am Enraged on gaming.stackexchange.com
9:59 AM
Now I wonder. How does all of this fit in with the fact that SE users can be as young as 13?
Notice: I am not referencing the specific case by itself. The link is just to provide context. The actual point is "how do we fell about content that while still managed in professional and legal way can be inappropriate for minors?"
10:13 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body: VitalPeak XT A solid muscle by ChaseDorsey on gaming.stackexchange.com
@Derpy We are not parenting.se and if I understand the 13 year rule correctly it only exists because the law requires that (or have a complex sign-up procedure). So without the law the sites would be open to anyone. If something is just bad-taste or plain abusive is for the site community to judge. Although I do agree that some post titles better kept on one community and not shared in the HNQ list.
subnet for the under 13 year olds
Man, I expect that would attract a lot of non-13 year olds ... might be handy as a honeypot ...
@rene The problem is that SE is responsible for the contents it host, and I think it can't claim a "It was the user fault for looking, not ours"
10:28 AM
@Derpy I just checked wikipedia, they host the same stuff ... what is the problem?
There are quite a lot of "mature" questions on religion sites, and still 13 y.o can access them, so...
@rene Quick example. I don't know if it is still the case, but I know that I never joined Anime.SE because it used to allow question about identification of mature material... and as a result the question list was crawling with them. I was wondering if that was a problem or not in regards to the users ages.
It's even browsable on all ages (i.e. from search engine)
@Derpy it still depends. If a site wants to cater for that kind of stuff and a large enough subset of the visitors feel comfortable with it AND not that many complaints are raised on meta AND it isn't only bad taste AND you at least do your best to understand that minors might have a problem with that content, I see no problem
I can imagine a special tag that you can put on you ignore list
(Off-topic, but has been nuked and blacklisted since a while on Anime & Manga)
10:35 AM
I do agree that such doubtful content should not be pushed in your face.
And if that doesn't work then yes, you have to accept the occasional run into bad things, just like what would happen in real life when you take the wrong route through town...
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Care get ready prosperity expert by noblelife2016 on arduino.stackexchange.com
sd k
10:52 AM
@rene oh, rene, I think you must have misunderstood my point. What I meant here is that while the original post was probably a little over the line with the "I will report the question to the anty-terrorism agency" style part, I was still wondering if SE shouldn't actually have some responsibility in limiting exposition of younger users to certain categories of content.
@rene sounds suspicious, especially when it comes out of a flower ...
@Telkitty sure. Trying to be over protective sometimes has averse effects ...
so if a honey pot is supposed to attract pedophiles, what is a flower supposed to attract?
I now imagine @rene rooted outside a pharmacy soliciting people like "Hey, want a sniff? I smell real goood"
@Derpy I think I fully understand your point and my answer is basically no but I don't want to close my eyes for those who expect the answer to be yes.
@Magisch isn't that the pick-up line used in Amsterdam?
11:00 AM
@rene Its because some of the personal information necessary to complete a registration is illegal to hold of sub 13 year olds.
@Telkitty lots of worker bees
@Magisch sure
@rene "The Children's Online Privacy Protection Act requires that websites cannot collect personal information from children under the age of 13, including "full name, home address, email address, telephone number or any other information that would allow someone to identify or contact the child.""
Taken from here
I kind of get what that law says and I don't think I try to advocate against that? Or did I?
Nah, I was just giving further context to your response to @Derpy
Why we lost Uber as a user https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/5797D5A1.5030009%40agliodbs.com
11:06 AM
I used minor for anyone who still has their parents be responsible for their actions
@Magisch WUT?
ring ring
@rene You're a network famous flower
You're the network's favorite flower :)
@Quill interesting, we use postgresql ...
@bjb568 Or Goat Child.
11:40 AM
"Renriel Dreemuur"
11:57 AM
@Magisch you back to work? Or still at home on sick leave?
@ShadowWizard back at work
better ish
12:18 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body: What are some good celebrity biographies? by Luca Dobson on patents.stackexchange.com
sd k
1:00 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer: How to add products in this point-of-sale system? by Eli White on ux.stackexchange.com
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2:09 PM
Q: Please tell me what reputation comes from documentation

NealHonestly -- I really do not like that I get reputation from documentation -- it pads peoples rep and I really do not know what it represents in the grand scheme of things. But Since we are stuck with it anyway, Can there be some way on the reputation page from me to see what rep I got from Docs...

Hopefully ^ this gets somewhere.
2:21 PM
Oh well, if this succeeds then people who have obtained reps from documentations will be disappointed ...
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA If you get 30 upvotes in the next 15 minutes, yes.
Or maybe from the next 15 minutes since the next 30, 'cause we have to give it time to show on the billboard.
Documentation is also on the SOCVR room meeting tonight, mostly because we have a minimal rep requirement but if that is all obtained from docs I'm not sure if that also means you can be trusted with Q/A moderation.
@TIPS Ha... This is just getting silly. I should not get rep for a topic that looks nothing like the original topic I wrote...
Ahh I keep getting rep...
What is wrong with this reversed dude? Is he actually complaining about getting rep?
@Documentation, you've built a mutant.
@TIPS haha.
Blah.. I had nothing to do with this: stackoverflow.com/documentation/javascript/revisions/… Why am I getting alerts to improve it?!?!?! AHHHH
2:40 PM
This guy just doesn't let go.
@TIPS yeah ... let's move on with our lives ...
Moving on without lives is impossible @rene.
Moving on with our lives is even harder.
I was wondering if that should have read without
anyway ... move on
Anyway . . . moves on
you can combust ...
2:48 PM
One can only wish
I tried to burn my silicon. Damn steric hindrance was too tough.
That is pretty awesome
2 hours later…
5:09 PM
The Finance Team takes the lead in the internal competition for fancy titles.
Meredith Ambinder (former Sales Representative) is now a Sales Enablement Strategist
Rob Dandorph (new employee) is a Sales and Marketing Operations and Enablement Manager
Somewhat along these lines, Sean Bave (former Product Manager) has become a Director of Business Information Systems
I'm sure these systems are somehow enabling...
Q: Hackeado por hos3a

admin Hacked by h0s3a, i pwned your box since 2001

5:18 PM
Hmm... abusive?
Apple mods are soft on that category, so I wouldn't try.
Got some declined flags from that direction.
5:33 PM
6:12 PM
@LuxxMiner Good point, we don't usually have high-rep suspended users when we run these, but I've put his name into the list manually. — animuson ♦ 22 mins ago
Suspensions are temporary, swag is forever.
6:40 PM
Can I get a gut check on how to handle a bounty in this case? stackoverflow.com/questions/38402443/…
I posted a bounty, and someone posted an answer which was totally untested. (Syntactically incorrect, even with the syntax errors fixed it didn't actually solve the problem)
But the answer was useful to me; it helped me figure out the answer on my own.
I replied in comments saying "hey, update your answer and I'll give you the bounty" but the original author didn't do it
We're still in the grace period so I technically still can give them the bounty. But but but I feel weird about giving the bounty to somebody who didn't actually solve the problem.
WDYT? Should I pay out? Just let the bounty expire? There's no way to award "partial credit" on a bounty, is there?
There can be a partial award of the answer gets up to 2 of higher. But that seems unlikely.
You've accepted teh answer. In that case, the full value will be awarded
> If the bounty starter accepted an answer during the bounty period, that answer is awarded the bounty (provided that the answer was posted during the bounty period). Answers accepted before the bounty period are not eligible to be awarded the bounty automatically.
I would probably edit the other user's answer to bring it up to the standards, then award bounty to it.
@Andy the accepted answer is self answer, not eligible
6:47 PM
Well...nevermind then.
I missed that
@DanFabulich here is an example of what I did in a similar situation, expanding a brief reference-only answer and then awarding a bounty: math.stackexchange.com/posts/1097797/revisions
I left "added by OP" note there, which is generally discouraged but seemed appropriate then.
7:20 PM
Any one use Bosun? If so, I'm curious to here how well the OpenTSDB portion scales. I imagine SE is happy with it, but I have an IT department that just completely canceled a project that depended on it because "it won't scale". I suspect we don't have nearly as much data as SE, unless they aren't storing as much as I think they are.
@Andy "I imagine SE is happy with it" - I hope so, they created it. :)
They didn't create OpenTSDB
(honestly, I just know bosun uses that, I don't know exactly what it does)
Oh. If I remember correctly, Nick was complaining about OpenTSDB a while back.
@aran384 Bosun/scollector is feeding OpenTSDB
@aran384 It's the backend for Bosun currently, so already have it full of data - though we're looking at other options to move to as well.
A: Can we please introduce more reputation limits for examples on Documentation

Shog9We're definitely going to fix this. Kevin and others will be discussing the particulars this week, though it may be a bit longer before anything gets rolled out (as the variety of suggested changes here demonstrates, there are a lot of factors that should be taken into consideration). Once change...

There will be a post from me, soon, which more clearly lays out what we envisioned with the rep system for docs as it was launched. The goals are really good, balance is tricky. As Shog noted, we're going to have to do a recalc, so we've got to be really careful to not inadvertently make the balance a bigger issue than it is - which means this is going to be at least a few weeks. I'll be posting this week at some point, there's a lot of stones to turn over before we can say we've turned 'em all, and a breadth-first search comes in quite handy there. — Tim Post ♦ 1 hour ago
7:30 PM
I'll fire up the microwave and start tossing in the bags of popcorn
@hichris123 That was already used by Adam in the first day after launch.
RepRecalc2016 then?
I wish \w+gate terminology would die together with Nixon...
The great cheese movement of 2016, since new nav is apparently pushed back to 2017...
New nav was supposed to be 2015...
7:34 PM
@hichris123 The beta came out then. That counts
AWS instance is now telling me at every login that "New release '16.04.1 LTS' available. Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it."... Does this even make sense?
Upgrading a virtual thing that I can only connect to by SSH?
I've done it before and I haven't broken anything...
.... yet ....
... thanks for the confidence. ;)
7:47 PM
You can trust me with that. I'm great with other peoples confidence
They can't have enough of it, they'll need it
I guess if it fails, I can kill the instance and get a new with 16.04...
Actually the new Ubuntu instances they offer are still 14.04.
lol that's a new one.
You might keep that one in mind for the future ...
7:58 PM
... I wonder how effective it is...
If I had knew this beforehand I would have tried it ...
The answer is spam, right? ru.stackoverflow.com/questions/550945/…
(yeah, yeah, I'm sitting in the realtime tab again)
I'll let @ᴡᴏʀᴅs translate for me...
@hichris123 nothing to translate, it's sh.st link
Which is enough for me to flag as spam
8:11 PM
Yeah, fair enough. It goes to a study site after the link shorterner ad thingy - spam for sure.
Math exercise: find the minimum number of days to earn Marshal.
Assuming one spends all post flags and all comment flags every day, and all are marked helpful within the same day (increasing flag limits), the answer is: 10 days. Daily flag counts: 24 + 28 + 34 + 40 + 48 + 58 + 70 + 84 + 100 + 100 = 586
8:29 PM
Well actually it's 24 + 28 + 34 + 40 + 48 + 58 + 70 + 84 + 100 + 120 = 606, I forgot that the cap is 200, not 100 if both post and comment flags are used.
9:05 PM
Can someone explain to me in one simple sentence what the essence is of this? The root cause of the issue, that is.
Someone is angry on the Internet.
disagreement about whether "is "black nodes matter" a politically correct joke" is a politically correct question
Slightly longer version is that someone didn't like the question, and started mocking it over and over again, then got banned for a year, then came to complain about that on mse
Well, the mocking is now on the mse post it seems
@hichris123 Because it's fun? Because it gets stupid examples out of the way? Because it can encourage the author to improve or other people to delete?
let's go with "catharsis"
1 hour later…
10:42 PM
@Shog9 But then I can't make someone feel bad that they wasted my time downvoting. How fun is that?
If I'm going to downvote, I would at least hope the person would find out...
@hichris123 hence the "leave a comment" thing. Words hurt more than numbers That way there's a specific path to avoiding deletion too.
Comment with a downvote? Ugh... I can't even remember the last time I did that.
(Oh, well I do it on ES a lot)
But with SO/Docs... it's not worth my time.
Also, I still haven't figured out this magical delete function on Docs.
Well, you don't have to. You can just downvote and silently push the example toward the bottom, or you can delete it.
@hichris123 pencil icon -> trash can icon
It's like... Hieroglyphics. Or emoji. Or one of those old Macintosh computers.
That's... terrible. If I want to delete something, really I want to edit it first and then I say "oh, I want to delete it".
Everything in Docs is an edit.
10:47 PM
Docs needs a UX redesign.
Don't take your Macintosh hate out on poor Docs. At least you don't have to drag the draft into the trash to close your browser.
I saw this a few days back, semi-related: fastcodesign.com/3053406/how-apple-is-giving-design-a-bad-name
But this still stands:
Jul 28 at 6:06, by hichris123
Also, why are there so many buttons off to the side? It's like brain overload right there.
I can't figure out what the buttons do, and I can't find the actions I want.
the new ios version is so bad
UX is hard, let's go shopping.
what's the new fad? Chat-bots, right? Someone should write a chat-bot interface to docs.
10:53 PM
New fad?
Y'know. After tile-based, Web 2.0 and Skeuomorphism.
@Shog9 Needs interaction with Teams and Jobs too. And hey, you can put the experience on your Dev Story too.
And then televise the whole thing on Twitch.
Oh, man... You are gonna be so disappointed tomorrow...
@Shog9 I think you're forgetting table based layout
@Quill with the power of tables, ALL fads are possible.
10:57 PM
@Shog9 Tomorrow will be great, thanks for asking!
@hichris123 I'm sympathetic to their concerns, but I also used iTunes like 10 years ago and it was terrible even then - so this isn't exactly a new problem.
they pressed rollback on the last six months of design for desktop
And I believe the horrible brushed-metal skinning w/ meaningless buttons thing happened even before OSX was released, so... Guessing Apple's design work has been going down the tubes now for about as long as it wasn't.
iTunes on Windows or on Mac? Windows has always been terrible.
Or maybe dictators can be fickle humans too.
@hichris123 Windows. So you're suggesting that Mac has now caught up?
11:07 PM
Perhaps, I don't really use Macs all that often.
Apple literally sell themselves on hardware-software integrations, so you can probably imagine iTunes works good on Mac. That said the design still makes me want to cry blood
Heads up: there will be a momentary Stack Exchange outage Wednesday night a little after 9pm EST for SQL. I’ll post to Stack Status tonight.
Hmm, wonder what happened here:
Q: Strange behavior in review status

DekelI got an error of too many incorrect reviews, and as example I got this review: http://stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/13119671 which was approved by all 3 reviewers (including me). The edit was suggested on a question and it wasn't rejected by any mod (as far as I could tell). Any id...

I use iTunes for Windows and it works fine for me, but a few years ago it was very painful
the SOCVR room meeting just ended, btw
Reading through to see if anything important happened or if it was like last time's...
Funny thing is, I only used iTunes to buy an album... Which was DRM'd, so I couldn't play it in anything else... And eventually ended up re-buying from somewhere else. Or stripping the DRM off of. Or both. I forget. Anyway, I did something rash in frustration and then never used it again.
11:16 PM
So... what's the takeaway from that? "Always research your options"?
ugh, my first gold badge on Stack Overflow is for a meta post..... ;-;
Yeah, doesn't look like I missed anything in that meeting...
@hichris123 the other options at the time were, if memory serves, DRM'd Microsoft, DRM'd RealPlayer, and gnutella.
I tried Microsoft's thing too
and, uh, gnutella
no prizes for guessing which one had the best UX.
Couldn't just Rip, Mix, Burn?
Napster ftw
11:27 PM
I mean the original one.
@hichris123 sure, but back then that involved CDEx and WinAMP. Not really fair to hold iTunes up to that standard.
(Not really fair to iTunes, I mean. Can you imagine trying to run iTunes on a Pentium 90?)
11:39 PM
Pentium 90? I thought we were talking 10 years ago.
When your Pokemon route is interrupted by a protest #nyc
Spent too much time wondering what is wrong with duration = (3600*hours + 60*minutes + seconds)/86400
where hours, minutes, and seconds were extracted from a string with regex match...
What the... Apple, @ATT? "The device is locked. Unlock 50$. Write on e-mail: helpappledevice@gmail.com" https://t.co/L0okExomwN
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer: Benefits of refinancing multiple rentals into a single jumbo loan? by Sean Branton on money.stackexchange.com
11:53 PM
@JasonC seems to be having fun on Motor Vehicle Maintenance & Repair.
Why hasn't that site graduated, by the way?
According to Jon Ericson, not enough 3K users.
Stats are way better than some of the sites that have recently graduated.
Jul 25 at 6:02, by Quill
It seems our friend JasonC has forsaken us for Motor Vehicle and Maintenance and Repair:
@ᴡᴏʀᴅs Hmm...
Law: "currently 10 users with 3,000+ rep"
Mechanics: "currently 34 users with 3,000+ rep"
Maybe active 3kers?
the thing is - without one the exploit would be sold to a criminal organization — uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC 29 mins ago
in The Pitstop on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Apr 13 at 20:06, by Jon Ericson
Ultimately, the site needs leadership from within. You all are doing great work and should be proud of that. The only reason you haven't graduated is there just aren't enough of you to support an election. Voting will help, but it's not the only thing that's needed.
11:57 PM
Because a criminal organization definitely wants access to SE accounts...
in The Pitstop on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Apr 13 at 23:19, by Jon Ericson
@DucatiKiller I just looked at the stats. I think you are very close now. Next time we review the site for graduation, it's pretty likely we'll take a risk on running an election.
Damn those university spammers trying to buy hacks
@JonEricson ^^ poke poke
Yes, that might be a little annoying... but I'd love to have a site with 50k views/day graduate.
Q: How can we increase the number of eligible voters?

Jon EricsonOver on Meta Stack Exchange, we've announced a process we call design-independent graduation which allows us to confer all of the benefits (and drawbacks) of graduation without waiting for our designers to replace the beta theme first. So far the experiment has worked well. We've been watching th...

Eric Lippert is fast climbing the Code Review rep leaderboard... if the site graduated now, he would get a swag pack

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