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12:01 AM
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Rob
12:42 AM
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Thanks for researching and editing so many FAQs. We know you spend a lot of time on this, and we appreciate an authoritative source to be linked to in comments or Q&As.
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2:41 AM
@Magisch The intent isn't up for discussion. The actual implementation is
And tbh, as problems invariably crop up - we're going to have to work at fixing them
 
 
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4:04 AM
@Magisch if the policy were "don't (knowingly) do a wrong thing" there wouldn't have been a debate. The problem arose when Sara's policy mandated taking positive action. Or seems to; I tried to get a clarification on that but Sara wasn't answering questions.
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Hi @MonicaCellio
 
4:56 AM
I thought they finally fixed icon sizes on HNQ but no, I've just been using my userscript from several years all along
@Oded I was talking about minor fixes like this which take years for some reason, while only existing on a couple pages across the entire network, not something that touches each of the 150+ sites separately
 
 
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6:12 AM
@user1306322 There is the SOUP patch, which attempts to compile such minor bug fixes into a single user script
 
morning
 
hya
 
Where is the fire?
 
6:18 AM
Oh, it is no longer burning? Great!
 
@rene IDK - we heard a lot of good tghings, we're fixing a few things but...
I donno man
 
Hmm @Shadow for a moment I thought you had a Sinterklaas mijter as avatar ....
 
Sinter what?
lol
 
Nah it's hourglass... time is running out...
But just put it to match my status of "Waiting".
oh hey I can use a gif!
 
6:26 AM
@Shadow animated?
 
Yup
Let's see if it's still working
 
lol
 
oh no it's not working :(
meh
Still, better image. ;)
 
Post a bug report/FR on MSE.
Now that we have animated ads, let's do the same for avatars
 
Actually...
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ShadowFirst, to make it clear Stack Exchange does not allow animated avatars, the Can I have an animated profile picture? feature request has been declined by SE staff back in 2016. However, as of today, users who upload animated gif as avatar have the animation showing in their profile, e.g. this use...

Forgot it got fixed.... lol
 
6:44 AM
ugh. 1) please don't upvote my answer. I was trying to make a point. 2. Closevote please meta.stackexchange.com/questions/334855/…
 
??
 
you make a point, you get points. It is that easy.
 
I mean if you want downvotes I have a couple you could borrow
 
@rene CW /cc @Journeyman
 
@Shadow eh
 
6:54 AM
that is cheating ....
 
nope
 
I already abused that loophole once today :/
 
Seriously though, if you post something you can't ask/expect people not to vote it, this way or another.
 
@StephanS the whole meta mob is happy to share their votes as well ...
 
If you don't want votes, don't post. :)
 
6:55 AM
@Shadow I can ask. People don't always have to listen ;)
I hope they do though
 
@JourneymanGeek I did just because I'm a good guy.
 
@MonicaCellio no question they horribly bungled your dismissal but the probability is that it won't end up so bad and they severely overreacted or misinterpreted what you said
 
:P
 
@Magisch I seriously hope so
 
@rene what? meta mob? I have no idea what you're talking about
 
6:56 AM
The fallout seems pretty bad though
 
@JourneymanGeek From the way it unfolded I can only conclude that people were talking past each other, a lot of misinterpretation and then some hasty and poorly considered action happened
and now they can't really remedy it because it'll look bad for PR
 
@Magisch I can't disagree
But its essential to heal
 
I've never seen such sustained anger before
 
and to fix a lot of damage
 
Coming out into the public press with "we fired this moderator for transphobia" or a statement substantially like it doesn't leave you wiggle room to backtrack. They burned the bridge, demolished it, and then salted the earth it was standing on
 
6:59 AM
@Magisch sigh
not her fault.
 
you have to backtrack either entirely or not at all
@JourneymanGeek never said it was
 
Not saying you did
 
anyone see the Joker yet? if so any reviews?
 
Didn't see
 
Idk if I want to spend the money on it, I'm not even sure the last time I saw a movie in the theatre
 
7:12 AM
I go only to Marvel movies in recent years.
Marvel is safe bet for your money. To this day, I was never disappointed, and even started to expect a lot, which I usually don't do.
 
I heard it was psychologically dark without a lot of action.
 
yeah Marvel movies are good. I read somewhere that the human brain can tell what is CGI because it doesn't move the same way people do. I thought that was pretty interesting.
 
@StephanS CGI where? In the Joker?
 
No, in Marvel movies
 
@StephanS hmm... they don't use CGI for characters.... or do they?? If they do kudos for them.
 
7:25 AM
@Shadow some action sequences are
even with humans
 
@Shadow ur face is CGI
 
Though now I'll check if the Titan is CGI or actor
 
@Magisch CG though using mo-cap rather than 'traditional' hand done CG
 
@Shadow A mixture of both
 
and by hand done, I mean using computers run by humans ;p
 
7:26 AM
> It's hard to recognize him under all that makeup, but Thanos is played by veteran actor Josh Brolin
 
It's pretty complicated, so I rather think it's what becomes of Moss in No CGI for Old Men
 
Thanos is totally CGI
 
ur CGI
 
So...
I'm no expert but
 
7:27 AM
@M.A.R. oh no
 
basically there's 4 elements, super roughly to CG
 
how did you know
 
I an expert but
 
@StephanS I used to work in CG kinda
 
Unlike Journey
 
7:28 AM
even have a credit in a Marvel Movie ;p
 
@StephanS no. I've seen movies where the characters are 100% CGI, they're crap indeed.
Marvel did awesome job with using it just to enhance the human actors.
 
Robert Pattinson
 
@Shadow so.. someone made a model, someone added rigging, then they had josh brolin act with a bunch of dots and used that to control the rigging that moved the model
then composited that into the scene
 
And?
 
@JourneymanGeek AFAIK that's outdated?
 
7:29 AM
If the end result is good, I'm fine with that.
 
And grabbed lunch
 
@M.A.R. a lot of the work is still rediciculously manual
 
@M.A.R. dated who?
 
they should make a movie telling a story about toys
and then repeat that 4 times
 
What toys? :P
 
7:30 AM
@Shadow Dated Out
 
@M.A.R.'s toys?
@M.A.R. who's Out?
 
@M.A.R. in my day, a good chunk of the employees literally went scene by scene and drew out "This is the wall, this is the floor..."
 
@Shadow Slap Out
 
there's a term for it that's escaping me
 
@Shadow Do I look like an Andy to you
58 looks like an Andy.
Which I haven't figured out yet if it's a boy or a girl's name.
 
7:32 AM
No they don't
 
It could be a man's name too but mostly boys.
 
@M.A.R. no, this!
Tin Tin Out were an English electronic music duo comprising Darren Stokes and Lindsay Edwards. They remixed songs for artists such as The Corrs and Des'ree, as well as collaborating with singers such as Shelley Nelson and Emma Bunton to score top ten hits with them. == Career == They are well known as active remixers, working on increasingly higher-profile songs as the 1990s progressed, however also have their own recording careers. They debuted with their 1995 cover "Always (Something There to Remind Me)". It peaked at #14 on the UK Singles Chart and #1 on the UK Dance Singles Chart. The single...
 
Though there's Andi Mcdowell....
and some people spell differentlike
 
@M.A.R. boy
 
I bet there are Andu, Ando, Andou (for Brits), and Andyi. Probably Indian
 
7:33 AM
Sandy for girl, Andy for boy
:D
 
Also @user58 looks like a @user58 ;p
 
Dandy for . . . lion.
 
@Shadow that's illegal
 
Dandy lion.
 
@StephanS prove
 
7:34 AM
@JourneymanGeek That is so 58 of them
 
Yeah, the cloning machine got a little stuck
 
@Shadow proving is illegal
 
@M.A.R. prove that one too
:D
 
I can't prove the law
Here, Journey, you prove it.
 
@Shadow one, too, tree
 
7:36 AM
@M.A.R. cognito canis sum.
 
@StephanS for, fiv, sux?
 
lol
@JourneymanGeek no no, no more Latin
 
@JourneymanGeek CCS... twin of CSS..... :D
 
@JourneymanGeek no ur a canis sum.
And it's cogito.
They stole it from Japanese.
 
DOMO ARIGATO MR M.A.RATO!
 
7:39 AM
DIM SUM!
 
@Shadow That's offensive to sum.
 
@M.A.R. you Dim
 
Now I want a snack
 
so what exactly does the smokeDetector do?
 
it reports spam
 
7:45 AM
@Magisch and serves drinks
!!/coffee Stephan
 
@Shadow brews a cup of Ristretto for @Stephan
 
oh it's like caprica six interface
 
Its primary mission is to report spam
 
!!/listcommands
 
@StephanS No such command 'listcommands'.
 
7:46 AM
@StephanS nah, it's 90% spam hunting, 10% fun
!!/help
 
@Shadow I'm SmokeDetector a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network and posts alerts to chat. A command list is available here.
 
^
 
spam that does not get actioned within 5(10?) minutes or flagged as a false positive gets reported here. The rest just gets reported in charcoal HQ or at the appropriate site-specific rooms
 
interesting
 
@StephanS if you want interesting bots, come to Den
 
7:47 AM
It scans every post on the network
 
who hosts it's
 
a server
;)
@StephanS several users
 
@StephanS it?
 
It has several instances
!!/location
 
@Shadow teward/Supergate
 
7:50 AM
@StephanS Smoke Detector is a community project
 
So Smokey instance here is hosted on a server owned by user named teward. @Stephan
 
Actually has several moving bits
 
The chatbot itself is hosted by different people, Metasmoke (the webinterface and backend database) is hosted by Undo and ArtOfCode iirc, and the code and blacklists are on github
 
that's pretty cool
 
Think Undo gives the actual host, yeah.
 
7:52 AM
the website charcoal-se.org is hosted by ArtOfCode with its code also being on github
 
I have acouple of servers and those things are expensive to run (energy cost).
 
the userscripts charcoal users utilize to flag more easily are also on github
 
A bunch of the people who are running these bots on their servers already had a server running for one reason or another. Or are abusing work machines *cough* Thomas *cough* :P
 
lol
 
7:54 AM
It's a complicated web of people and things by now
 
does anyone use firebase?
I'm looking at other server services because I'm really not a fan of Google but it seems like they have the best prices I can find
 
What kind of web content to you intend to publish? Maybe running it on a random laptop that's always connected to the Internet will suffice.
 
it's an android / iOS app
 
How big of a server does it need?
 
@JohnDvorak Smokey? I'd imagine quite big
 
8:06 AM
Ah, smokey. FWIR, Smokey's requirements are next to nothing.
 
probably 100gb
I think google charges 5$/1gb in their (pay-as-you-go plan)
I could do it with one of my servers but the problem is the way I have the cooling system setup it won't make sense to just run one
 
has anyone had success running a bot on a custom firmware router?
 
I barely use my hard drive, so I'd be willing to share with Charcoal.
 
or maybe it would be easier to use some arduino
I had a bot version which ran on a windows mobile 6.1 device for a few weeks but the device liked to lose connectivity for a couple seconds too often which caused an annoying delay
 
@TimStone your profile image is so cool
 
8:15 AM
eh
 
yea it's like you're wiping your face with my avatar lol
 
in this day and age... raspis are probably the thing that folks run random things on
 
The words "windows mobile" give me a mild PTSD
 
my work still supports some POS (point of sale, not what you think) winmo 5 devices
 
@user1306322 why not both?
 
8:25 AM
I was gonna quickly look up alternative acronyms but this site abbreviations.yourdictionary.com/search is a total point of sale at finding any for "pos"
for some reason it was the first google result for "acronym" and it doesn't seem to be mainly about acronyms
 
8:45 AM
I like the idea of recycling old unneeded devices with internet support to use as low power, low performance servers, like old iphones/ipods or random non-apple media players
one problem with them is they're usually not designed to run without a battery connected like laptops, and their batteries tend to engorge and lose capacity to the point they don't run at all
and limited programmability
 
So, basically they are unfit for purpose ;p
 
I'd just stuff it on my main lap-desktop.
 
9:05 AM
daptop
just put your atx tower on your lap, instant daptop
 
I mean lesktop, not daptop
 
what about a lettop
or is it a letdown?
 
9:20 AM
It seems this place is somewhat back to its usual nonsense ... good.
 
here's hoping
it seems like every storm lasts longer then the last...
 
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talking about storms, in other news, blizzard did an oopsie, as well as a number of other high profile organizations
 
Wait...
 
@user1306322 I got rid of my WoW subscription in response
 
9:27 AM
another one?
 
the hong kong thing
 
yea I kinda already disliked them for how they handled legacy diablo 2 license holders
 
where they fired and confiscated a player's prize money, banned him from any tournaments for a year, and fired and blacklisted both stream casters for allowing him to speak in support of hong kong, and then issued an apology to china
in the apology to china saying something like "we will always defend the pride of the nation at any cost"
 
Yeah, that's the one I know of
some... interesting side effects there
 
9:29 AM
and what they did with diablo 3, how they've been pushing the "no, this is what you like now" marketing despite users clearly showing how 1/2 and 3 are not designed in the same artistic spirit, it left a sour taste
 
This too is a case of leaving yourself no wiggle room
 
I like my single player games not lagging
 
if they backtrack now china will have to respond punitatively to set a precedent
 
@user1306322 aye there's no amend but there's a a reparation path here they are not walking
 
9:30 AM
@Magisch more or less
 
@user1306322 not just that, in response to people getting rid of accounts it seems they disabled all easy ways of doing that.
 
which is illegal in EU btw
 
Yup, not smart.
 
but it's not like it's gonna cost them enough to make them reconsider this behavior
afaik the only class action suit which hurt anyone significantly was the most recent google's one where everyone get a substantial compensation around 400 usd
usually it's below 30 bucks per qualifying customer
and it was for something that lasted years, I think it was about collecting user data since 2011 and it was on iphones, so a very significant number of people across the globe, so compared to the userbase of the battle.net the math doesn't seem so scary
 
If a lawsuit will ever happen to begin with. And of course Epic is playing the "good guy" card again being the opportunistic people they are.
 
9:38 AM
I won't let their launcher onto my pc
I dislike epic intensely for their exclusives policy
 
I don't get the whole hate for exclusives to be honest.
None of the games I worked on would have happened at all if it wasn't for exclusives.
 
I installed epic game store for BL3 ;p
but the freebies are nice too
 
@Bart I dislike the concept. It should have been outlawed a long time ago
exclusivity deals, that is
What epic is doing is cartel behavior and should be sanctioned as such
 
@Bart they already stated that they are all pro opinions
doesn't fix the anticompetitive monopolistic practices of exclusive buyouts from steam and other platforms
 
9:43 AM
Microsoft was sentenced to pay a massive fine for pre-installing internet explorer on windows pcs once. A similar force is necessary to deter monopolistic behavior from epic
or just fine them out of business, also fine by me
 
I'm waiting for bl3 to get fixed for performance bugs first and foremost, then for the dlcs without which borderlands games are usually feeling quite incomplete and lacking in content, and then for the eventual removal of denuvo to disable the keyboard and mouse hooks
and of course not on that epic launcher, I've already got steam and my library, I want to keep it all in one place
not to mention (but to mention) the issue where I've received a scary number of emails about blocked login attempts from random countries and got locked out of logging in myself too many times in the past due to login temp limit
that was in 2017 when I tried out fortnite, maybe that changed since then, but I don't care to find out
 
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Perhaps not a discussion to have, but many of those exclusives (and Epic is not the only one having exclusives) are what keeps the studios behind them afloat, with some only avoiding the usual post-release lay offs because of the up-front money. Would I like to not have multiple accounts and launcher and what not, sure. But that's a minor inconvenience.
 
9:59 AM
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10:19 AM
personally I don't mind the timed exclusives at all, what I dislike is permanent exclusives (like I'd like to play Bloodborne but I don't have a ps4 and it's not worth buying one just for this one game) and the couple cases where games were initially released or promised to be released on steam or gog but then were bought out by epic, and I don't think it's a controversial point of view
I don't think it's realistic to expect Bloodborne or Demon Souls to come to pc by way of official porting though
guess we'll have to wait some more years for emulators to catch up
I wanna play dat Cadence of Hyrule but I don't own a sweech :<
 
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10:48 AM
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11:04 AM
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Smokey posting right after room cleanup reminds me of babies messing their diaper right after changing it. :D
 
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user194636
11:20 AM
Smoke Detected.
 
Fire Started
 
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:D
 
11:52 AM
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12:07 PM
keep this up and we'll have a nice fire themed playlist
 

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