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drachenstern

5:00 AM

@waffles The tool itself is written entirely in JavaScript, using the Prototype and Flotr libraries.

@RebeccaChernoff I think that's overkill myself

Chris Jester-Young

@RebeccaChernoff Help or hurt in terms of finding dead posts? Or in terms of DB server performance?

waffles

Also, you can hack on data.se without need for visual studio ... I think there is an html page that you can play with, if your changes are only js

drachenstern

@RebeccaChernoff altho now that you say that maybe low rep would be beneficial :\

Jeff Atwood

@RebeccaChernoff our conclusion was that nothing can help those questions in that query, except being re-asked better.. feel free to mess with it

Chris Jester-Young

@RebeccaChernoff In the latter case, hasn't the server been upgraded, and therefore mightier than Cthulhu?

Dan Grossman

5:01 AM

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Q: A Strange Error (COBOL)

Hey all, got one mountain of a problem here. I have completed a program I had to do for collage homework, but when I run it the output shows almost nothing it is suppose to. This only happens when I RUN it though. If I hold F11 to STEP through the whole thing it shows the results as it is suppose...

A homework problem, in COBOL! A rare sight.

Rebecca Chernoff

holy @lerts (:

waffles

@RebeccaChernoff why are you not logged in :)

Rebecca Chernoff

I dunno. All I did is click on Jeff's query link in the meta post!

Chris Jester-Young

@waffles Why are you snooping on @RebeccaChernoff? :-P

Tim Stone

waffles

5:03 AM

@RebeccaChernoff yeah there is a fair bit of js that needs to load prior to stuff working, we should clean up the way this happens

Tim Stone

Black magic. shakes head

Rebecca Chernoff

Is there some indication that I missed that it was running my query when I loaded the direct link?

drachenstern

So ... resumes. @Moshe wanna see what my last one looked like (actually this might be an older one, I'm looking at PDFs that were in an email between me and a friend)

waffles

@RebeccaChernoff when you click on a query that already was executed, it should simply load the results .... If you click on one that has not executed yet, it will not run it, however if you are really fast and click run before all the js loads, you will get an annoying js issue

Rebecca Chernoff

It was loading the results, it was just taking its time. Status bar says waiting for sstatic, but that run query button was calling to me. (;

waffles

5:08 AM

@RebeccaChernoff yeah ... we should probably render with that button disabled and only enable it after all the js in the page loaded

Tim Stone

Apparently the button needs to hide for certain coughs impatient people.

Chris Jester-Young

@TimStone s/hide/marquee-on-hover/

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drachenstern

or put the onclick handler attachment in the document.onload?

Rebecca Chernoff

grumbles at Mr. Can't Call A Coin Toss

Dan Grossman

0

Q: finding high end software contracting jobs

I've been contracting for about 3 years now. I currently am a contractor for a web firm. hourly position. I want to start finding larger projects. I read on a guys blog that he was able to do 1 to 2 jobs a year and be set on that. I want those types of jobs, and I want to hire people to take on t...

project-management jobs projects-and-solutions contracting self-employed

Tim Stone

5:09 AM

@ChrisJesterYoung Hahahah

Dan Grossman

^ Final vote to do something with it?

drachenstern

I know she's not talking to me cos I got it right :p

@Moshe did you leave?

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff Deion Sanders! He should have tossed it better. :(

Rebecca Chernoff

I'm not interested in your excuses!

Dan Grossman

Hmm.

I can't suggest an edit on that question anymore, because it contains tags that don't exist on programmers, and I'm not allowed to submit a question with new tags with low rep. Even though I am not the one that tagged the question. Also because my edit is just two characters, and correcting spelling/typos isn't allowed.

drachenstern

5:12 AM

@DanGrossman unfortunatley that sounds appropriate

Michael Mrozek

I'm having no trouble at all imagining @RebeccaChernoff choking subordinates with her mind powers

Rebecca Chernoff

|:

drachenstern

If only there were someone here that could listen to those sorts of problems and issue an edict as to the usefulness of such a situation :p

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff That's OK, you should be more interested in figuring out how to come up with a test case ;)

Moshe

@drachenstern I did leave for a moment. What was that?

Tim Stone

5:13 AM

Although my Plan B is to force Chrome developers to sign up for Stack Overflow and then use our userscript.

drachenstern

@TimStone function passMeDown(value){ if (value) { passMeDown(value - 1); return;} else {Function.apply();}} wouldn't work?

Tim Stone

It only does this sometimes, heh.

Moshe

@drachenstern HP, nice!

drachenstern

@TimStone then I would say ... hmmmm

@Moshe slow down, it was manufacturing

Tim Stone

I suppose I could scour V8's source code some more, but I had other things I wanted to do instead of reading C++, heh.

drachenstern

5:15 AM

basically a screwdriver monkey

Moshe

Eh. It was something.

drachenstern

@Moshe yeah, but notice I didn't put my past 16+ years of work history on there

Only a few high points

that's what I don't get about resume's

Moshe

Ya, go write that on a resume. I dare you.

:P

Rebecca Chernoff

So...does anyone besides me find the suggested edits review of tag wiki edits confusing?

drachenstern

@Moshe go write what?

Tim Stone

5:16 AM

Resumes, pssh. ;)

Moshe

Why, did I?

drachenstern

that's the resume I used to get my current job

@Moshe no

@RebeccaChernoff yes and no

Moshe

Write "screwdriver monkey".

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff Haven't seen one yet.

drachenstern

@Moshe oh, if it was for another screwdriver monkey position I would

Moshe

5:17 AM

@drachenstern did you see mine?

Chris Jester-Young

@TimStone Go to /review/suggested-edits. You'll see some in no time.

drachenstern

but I won't ever work for that low again unless I absolutely must (like $12/hr)

@Moshe no

Moshe

Ouch. 12/hr.

Tim Stone

@ChrisJesterYoung I think the path is still only accessible to 10K+ isn't it?

Aye, seems to be.

drachenstern

@Moshe I was just starting my 4year degree

Moshe

5:19 AM

Well my name is my website. Not much there.

Dan Grossman

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Q: i want a secure blog system with the very basic functionality

Hi, I want a list of blog systems which are secure and simple. A very simple one is enough. Just creating new posts, categories, edit blogs with clean url. that is all we need but very secure. We do not want wordpress. They have too many features and they are hackable. Instead of spending time a...

cms blogs

Chris Jester-Young

@TimStone Oh, you're from the peanut gallery? Oh well. ;-)

Moshe

Just add a .com

My resume is there. Hard to miss.

Tim Stone

@ChrisJesterYoung Yeah, I need to get up the will to take care of my SO question backlog and work on 10K, heh.

Rebecca Chernoff

The wiki and the excerpt are actually 2 different posts, so editing them generates 2 different suggested edits. But there's just a single edit comment that is put on both posts. So you could be looking at the excerpt suggested edit staring blankly, while the actual body proposed edit makes more sense with the edit comment.

Or at least, that's what it seems like to me.

drachenstern

5:20 AM

4 pages!!!

zomg, that's murder

Chris Jester-Young

@TimStone "Back in the day", posting code golf questions was the easiest way to get rep. Too bad, that window of opportunity has long passed. :-P

Moshe

Well it hasn't been used for anything. Notice my education. I havent started anything serious.

drachenstern

@Moshe yeah I see that ... when you goto look for a job in the US full time lemme know

Dan Grossman

That Chrysler commercial won the "Brand Bowl" on Twitter. It was awesome.

Moshe

@drach why?

drachenstern

5:22 AM

@ChrisJesterYoung even on codegolf.se!!!

Kragen

@waffles Roughly how many hits does data.se get? The Google Charts API looks incredibly straightforward.

Dan Grossman

brandbowl2011.com

drachenstern

@Moshe cos I'm curious how many hits it gets

Moshe

I plan on starting college this fall, Gd willing.

Chris Jester-Young

@drachenstern Yes, but posting golfing questions on CodeGolf.SE won't get you rep on SO. :-P

drachenstern

5:23 AM

@ChrisJesterYoung true, but it doesn't get a lot of rep there either

Dan Grossman

One more vote! stackoverflow.com/questions/4918256/…

Chris Jester-Young

@drachenstern Yeah, I think people are more guarded about upvoting answers there. Especially if they don't understand the answer.

waffles

@Kragen not a massive amount, but would much prefer to render this stuff on our site and not send the data to an external service for render

Chris Jester-Young

@drachenstern That's partly why GolfScript answers haven't done so well, rep-wise.

Dan Grossman

I'm saving that

drachenstern

5:24 AM

@DanGrossman that was pretty funny huh?

Moshe

@drach It's a PDF I should probably set up some sort of analytics on my site. Not much there now.

drachenstern

@Moshe true, do it later tho :p

ok people, I've gotta get up in like X hours and I really need like N hours of sleep, so ... I'm out. See most of you manana.

Moshe

Why later?

Dan Grossman

close-as-duplicate!! stackoverflow.com/questions/4917635/…

Moshe

Ok. Enjoy.

drachenstern

5:26 AM

hey @TimStone .... go get some sleep :p

Rebecca Chernoff

Tag Wiki suggested edit example: stackoverflow.com/edit-suggestions/2415 and stackoverflow.com/edit-suggestions/2414

drachenstern

@Moshe cos you have too many irons in the fire ;)

Tim Stone

Never!

Dan Grossman

10 questions, 0 accepts, ignoring answers, reasking questions... help vampire!! stackoverflow.com/users/596190/woopie

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff O_o

Rebecca Chernoff

5:27 AM

Trying to decide if this is rare don't-care territory or something to raise.

Tim Stone

Seems kind of confusing to me, but.

Moshe

@Rebecca decide if what is rare?

Rebecca Chernoff

this situation

Jeff Atwood

and what situation are you referring to? The one in the middle east?

Dan Grossman

20 mins ago, by Dan Grossman

I can't suggest an edit on that question anymore, because it contains tags that don't exist on programmers, and I'm not allowed to submit a question with new tags with low rep. Even though I am not the one that tagged the question. Also because my edit is just two characters, and correcting spelling/typos isn't allowed.

6 mins ago, by Rebecca Chernoff

Tag Wiki suggested edit example: http://stackoverflow.com/edit-suggestions/2415 and http://stackoverflow.com/edit-suggestions/2414

The 'suggest edit has bad ux in some cases' situation?

Jeff Atwood

5:33 AM

I can't even understand what you wrote

can you break it down for me like I'm four years old?

apparently I suck at reading

there's like 24 items in that paragraph.. which one of them is the problem?

Moshe

...waits...

Dan Grossman

meh

Jeff Atwood

the minimum edit is 6 characters, and unless you come to my house and kill me, that will not change as long as I breathe air

the rest, I dunno

(for low-rep anon users anyways)

Dan Grossman

just a weird case, like @rchern's

if a question is moved between sites, it may contain tags that didn't exist on the destination site

that'll prevent suggesting edits, since it pretends you're adding those tags, and you need high rep to use new tags

Jeff Atwood

ok, that I can understand

Dan Grossman

5:37 AM

I wanted to capitalize the question, add a comma before a "but", and fix a spelling error. Those 3 corrections weren't enough to meet the character limit :/

Moshe

@DanG in other words, a migrated question with an attached edit suggestion which adds a nonexisting tag to the destination site, yes?

Jeff Atwood

we could strip all tags from the questions that don't exist on the target site when migrating

I suspect you will get a lot of questions tagged [untagged] in that case though

Dan Grossman

@Moshe No, you can't suggest an edit from the new site after migration if the question was already tagged with a nonexistant tag. Unless you plan to remove those tags as your edit, I guess.

Jeff Atwood

meaning, NONE of the tags existed on the target site

@dan couldn't you suggest an edit which removes those tags AND makes 6 chars of changes?

Moshe

@Jeff, but that doesn't really help, as you said. Also sonetimes a new tag will be a relevant or useful one.

Dan Grossman

5:39 AM

@JeffAtwood I don't know, someone else made the edits for me already

Rebecca Chernoff

I was getting a snack. Is my tag wiki scenario unclear?

Jeff Atwood

the real question then is "what do we do with tags that don't exist on the target site when a question is migrated"

this has nothing to do with edits, really

Moshe

Perhaps the tags should be up for review as well?

Jeff Atwood

tags are up for review, as I mentioned above-- you can remove them in a suggested edit

Moshe

Like customs In a country? "Inbound question, check its tags"?

Dan Grossman

5:40 AM

@RebeccaChernoff's thing was actually about edits then. When you edit a tag wiki, it creates two suggested edits, one of which may show no change but have an edit reason...

Jeff Atwood

@RebeccaChernoff @waffles will have to look at that, I know nothing about it

Moshe

Right but edits can be suggested by anyone. But there is no way to suggest tags, unless here is and I don't know about it.

Rebecca Chernoff

Yeah, I'm a bit confused. I thought Dan was talking about something different.

Jeff Atwood

@moshe only in one direction -- you can't suggest adding a tag that doesn't exist, but you can sure suggest removing one that doesn't.

(I think -- is that not what you were seeing @dan ? Anyway this is about migrations not editing IMO)

the root problem is that the tags don't exist which is a direct consequence of the migration.. so this is a migration issue

Dan Grossman

I only wanted to change the body of the question, but since it already had tags from before it was moved, I was prevented from submitting my edit. It told me I wasn't allowed to create new tags. I didn't add any tags. I didn't try removing them.

Moshe

5:44 AM

@Jeff well here, it seems, lies the root of the problem. A user must have X rep to create a tag. Anyone can suggest an edit. In suggesting an edit, they can suggest a tag. However, because tags are not necessarily stable across sites, edits can create tags, essentially. So you have a workaround here for creating tags sans minimum rep.

Jeff Atwood

@DanGrossman that's my point, I suspect it might work if you removed the tags that don't exist as part of your edit

Dan Grossman

:nod:

Jeff Atwood

@Moshe right, that's why this is about migrations not editing

Moshe

Please excuse my poor spelling, on the iPhone with a super-protective case which can impair typing.

Kragen

How about just ignoring the restrictions on adding new tags if the tags haven't changed? (when editing questions)

Jeff Atwood

5:45 AM

creating new tags on a mature site is almost always bad though

thus, I am inclined to just blow away any tags that don't exist in the migration

Rebecca Chernoff

@Kragen How can you add a new tag if the tags haven't changed? |:

Moshe

@Jeff why?

Jeff Atwood

the only problem is, you CAN end up with a question tagged [untagged] this way

Kragen

But surely just removing them is worse though? Then you have no idea what the tags were

Rebecca Chernoff

If none of the tags exist on the destination site, should the question really be going there?

Jeff Atwood

5:46 AM

seriously, go look at the Stack Overflow faq and see how much rep it takes to create a tag. Go ahead, I'll wait here.

Dan Grossman

@RebeccaChernoff Probably not, but we all know SO questions we don't like get dumped somewhere else to die :p

Moshe

@Jeff so then try this: blow away tags and then put untagged questions in a queue for mods and high rep users to tag and approve.

@Rebecca perhaps, if a question was asked and needs that much editing, it may have been poorly tagged.

Rebecca Chernoff

I'm asking independently of suggested edits. Just basic question migration.

Moshe

Also, there's a difference between "mature" and "mature". Take Apple.SE versus SO. Both are "mature" as in "not in beta" but SO is obviously more mature.

Jeff Atwood

@moshe that's a major feature request, I decline that for now

Rebecca Chernoff

5:49 AM

@Moshe Just something that popped into mind from what Jeff said.

Jeff Atwood

@moshe this is obvious; look at the /faq on each site and tell me what the tag creation rep levels are

Dan Grossman

Kill the tags and hope people do the right thing about retagging after they just took the time to move it, but that assumes they have rep on the destination site to do so...

Jeff Atwood

@RebeccaChernoff we could say that if a question doesn't have at least one tag in common on the destination, the software will not move it

Moshe

@Jeff np was just thinking aloud.

@Jeff going to check.

Jeff Atwood

that would be a better short term solution

it would also tend to prevent wildly inappropriate migrations

Dan Grossman

5:51 AM

It could just 'close as off topic' without migrating?

Rebecca Chernoff

@JeffAtwood Right, exactly what I was thinking. Seems like it would work in theory, wondering if it applies just as well in the practical world.

Jeff Atwood

this question tagged [shoes] [socks] [shirt] .. yes, that belongs on pro webmasters!

Dan Grossman

> -- 2011-02-05 rep +365 = 8249 (after dropping 290 reputation from upvotes over cap)

Moshe

@Jeff I looked up apple.SE and SO. Do you mind explaining yourself just a bit. I'm afraid I'm not getting it.

Rebecca Chernoff

Do we have the data needed to write up a query that would look at how often this has come up on past migrations?

Moshe

5:54 AM

Ah got it.

Okay, gnight folks. I have to get to sleep. Early day tomorrow. @Jeff, btw, still have any more stickers?

Dan Grossman

G'night @Moshe

mootinator

It's way too late for me to still be awake :/

Dan Grossman

Reno

6:21 AM

57

Q: How to discover memory usage of my application in Android

I would like to know how I can find the memory used on my Android application, programmatically. I hope there is a way to do it. Plus I would like to understand how to get the free memory of the phone too.

java android memory-management

I wish diamond mods get the power to 'accept' answers like these :(

Rebecca Chernoff

Is the comment you added really necessary?

Reno

naah its a joke

Rebecca Chernoff

I'm not seeing the humor. |:

Reno

ffuucomics.com

Dan Grossman

@rchern is not a redditor

Yi Jiang

6:28 AM

Hmmm... getting a TI 84 graphics calculator for school this year

Dan Grossman

I have never seen one

only 83+/83+ silver/89

Yi Jiang

TI-84 Plus series

The TI-84 Plus is a graphing calculator made by Texas Instruments which was released in early 2004. There is no original TI-84, only the TI-84 Plus and TI-84 Plus Silver Edition models. It is an enhanced version of the TI-83 Plus. The key-by-key correspondence is relatively the same, but the 84 features some improved hardware. The memory is about 3 times as large, and CPU about 2.5 times as fast (over the TI-83 and TI-83 Plus). A USB port and built-in clock functionality were also added. It is merely a slightly enhanced version of the TI-83 Plus Silver Edition, as it retains many of th...

Dan Grossman

ah, too new for my high school days

Michael Petrotta

I am now participating in an SO slap fight.

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Q: Want to replace browser scroll bar with my own

Hi, I have one problem in my home page design. Problem is that I don't want a scroll bar which is provided by the browser. I have created my own scroll bar so please give me hint how can do this thing? Can I use jQuery? Can I do this through HTML?

jquery html

belisarius

I learned to program with a TI-59

TI-59

The TI-59 was an early programmable calculator, manufactured by Texas Instruments from 1977. It was the successor to the TI SR-52, quadrupling the number of "program steps" of storage, and adding "ROM Program Modules" (an insertable ROM chip, capable of holding 5000 program steps.) It was one of the first LED calculators with the capability and flexibility to take on many real-world calculation challenges, and quickly became popular with professionals in many fields. The calculator could be powered from an external adapter or from its internal NiCd rechargeable battery pack. Display ...

Yi Jiang

6:32 AM

I want to program with it, but man I'm spoilt by the syntax of erhm... modern languages

Dan Grossman

I had tons of games on my TI-89

TI-89 series

The TI-89 and the TI-89 Titanium are graphing calculators developed by Texas Instruments. They are differentiated from most other TI graphing calculators by their computer algebra system, which allows symbolic manipulation of algebraic expressions. For example, equations can be solved in terms of variables; the TI-83/84 series can only give a numeric result. TI-89 The TI-89 is a graphing calculator developed by Texas Instruments (TI) in 1998. The unit features a 160×100 pixel resolution LCD screen and a large amount of flash memory, and includes TI's Advanced Mathematics Soft...

Doesn't that description just sound sexy? "Other" calculators only give numeric results. This one can solve variables, and has a "large" amount of memory (639kb)!

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A: Disadvantages of quoting integers in a Mysql query?

According to me, I think there is no performance/size cost in the case you have mentioned. Even if there is, then it is very much negligible and wont affect your application as such.

Gotta love "According to me" authoritative answers!

Yi Jiang

Erh... huh?

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Q: Does jQuery work pretty well on Mac?

Hi All, Thanks for reading. I have a client that I am doing a very small project for. His company uses Max exclusively. I rarely use Mac, and don't have one for testing. If I use jQuery and test it with FireFox on windows, can I assume it will also work for FireFox for Mac? How about other ...

jquery mac browser-compatibility compatibility

Dan Grossman

Wow, pluralizing Mac as Max!

I want to move that to webmasters, but I have no votes left, as usual.

Yi Jiang

@DanGrossman Why webmasters?

Dan Grossman

It boils down to "is it cross-platform to use JavaScript on my website", not a programming question

Rebecca Chernoff

6:41 AM

@YiJiang Exactly what I was thinking.

George Marian

techcrunch.com/2011/02/06/…

> We really have to stop being scooped by rivals on news affecting our own company.

belisarius

WIKIPEDIA: TI-84 Integrated programming languages
TI-BASIC and machine code. Assembly and C require a computer with a Z80 cross-compiler or an on-calc assembler.

Reno

6:55 AM

►

aww they made it to ellen

Dan Grossman

cute

Michael Petrotta

I'm not sappy, but - every kid should have a dad like that.

Dan Grossman

7:30 AM

I'd be a happier person if I didn't stay up and answer questions during India hours. Now I even have Indians from SO e-mailing me using my website contact form begging me to answer their SO questions...

Reno

oh :(

Yi Jiang

@DanGrossman That's... wow

Not too often I hope

Dan Grossman

> Referer 1: stackoverflow.com/users/280598/dan-grossman Hi, Dan please help me in SO question I will be thankful to u.

Reno

How about stalking them back, i do that a lot , even though its bad.

Yi Jiang

@DanGrossman Just tell them off, or ignore them

Dan Grossman

7:35 AM

I am surprised this was an actual question/answer stackoverflow.com/questions/4918719/…

Yi Jiang

Unless you're getting a flood of emails, ignoring the one user should be enough

Dan Grossman

It's more the general quality and attitude of questioners changes during India's waking hours and US's sleeping hours

Reno

totally , and its same at the workplace here

Yi Jiang

@DanGrossman Some of them express themselves so badly you'd excuse almost any 'bad attitude' as their inability to use English correctly

Reno

im in korea now , when i was in india nobody wants to get the work done themselves

Dan Grossman

7:37 AM

It's usually comments that get me: "Please give me the codes" "Here's a tutorial: [link]" "No please guide me step by step!"

Reno

i dont get the attitude , its really a shame to be part of such a country ... but to be fair the place that i come from has a european heritage, so when i went to other states in india it was quite a cultural shock

Dan Grossman

They are always taught very polite English in schools, but often use it to make demands for work

Reno

I reckon its because of the corruption inbred into the culture

Dan Grossman

Wow, the Chrome process for this tab almost brought down my computer again. I alt+f4'd and killed its process before it totally locked up, for a 4th time this week. Something weird going on with this version of Chrome.

Yi Jiang

@DanGrossman Up/Downgrade channels?

Dan Grossman

7:44 AM

I guess... this is supposed to be stable! I'll switch to beta, might help.

I'm at 499 answers and +259 rep today

I guess one more and I'll call it a night

badp

8:11 AM

You monster.

Dan Grossman

Eep

That tablet I lusted for momentarily during the Super Bowl... is $800

badp

just like that other tablet.

Dan Grossman

I'd pay $199. Tablets are netbooks without the hinged keyboard, right? And they don't even pay Microsoft for a Windows 7 Starter license! I'm only getting half a netbook, it shouldn't cost more.

Yi Jiang

@DanGrossman Well, except for that fancy touchscreen panel...

Dan Grossman

Pffth, I had a multitouch HP TX2 tablet PC with Windows, 4GB RAM, 320GB HD, etc. for less than $800. This is still only half of that!

Reno

8:19 AM

@DanGrossman im working on OS of an android tablet like that, i cant tell you more tho, secret stuff

badp

@DanGrossman I guess people are then willing to pay $400 to not use Windows!

Reno

but if you guys have some ideas and stuff you can always tell me i can always work on some OS goodies in my spare time

Dan Grossman

@Reno awesome

That was my laptop before this one, the motherboard died and I didn't want to put $250 into replacing it :/

It made much more sense to spend $1200 on a new laptop, somehow.

Benjol

Oops, meta offline for maintenance. Skull & crossbones

back again.

Dan Grossman

8:38 AM

Eep. Chrome just crashed with a memory exception. Maybe switching to beta branch to fix crashing wasn't a great idea.

George Marian

heh

Reno

Yi Jiang

9:18 AM

stackoverflow.com/edit-suggestions/2911 and stackoverflow.com/edit-suggestions/2912

Benjol

What's community doing answering questions?

Yi Jiang

@Benjol That's a tag wiki

Benjol

OK, so it's a new tag?

Yi Jiang

No, it's a new wiki

A tag wiki is actually a question, so someone needs to create and own it

So it's Community's job here

Benjol

ok, I see.

I'm afraid I can't motivate myself for the new edit/approve thing. I've stopped visiting /review too.

Yi Jiang

9:21 AM

@Benjol Hrm... well, the fact that review isn't linked from anywhere sucks

It's just not as convenient to go type /review any time, even with location bar autocomplete

Benjol

@YiJiang. Edit sucks: can't correct minor typos. Approval sucks: you can't improve a suggested edit, you can't approve it on your own, the diffs are difficult to parse visually, and (for me currently) there's still no link. Review sucks: there's no way to say "I've seen this, it's ok, remove it from the list please", and there's always this feeling that I'm reviewing stuff that n people have already reviewed so I'm just wasting my time. And there's no link, as you say.

3

Yi Jiang

@Benjol FEATURE REQUEST!!!

And rant, of course

Benjol

status-bydesign

status-still-in-development-stop-bitching

2

note that the transition from the second to the first takes a millisecond, and in both cases your feature request gets turned down - in one case it's too early, in the other case it's too late :)

@YiJiang I think that there's nothing in there which doesn't already have one (or more) associated meta questions

Yi Jiang

@Benjol True, but I don't believe any of them has gotten any amount of upvotes

Just put the rant out there, and I'm sure they'll see how to improve it, on a systematic level

Benjol

9:48 AM

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Q: Edit/Approve/Review Rant

(Nothing new here, but a little rant is cathartic) [rant] Edit sucks: you can't correct minor typos. Approval sucks: you can't improve a suggested edit, you can't approve it on your own, the diffs are difficult to parse visually, and (for me currently) there's still no link. And there is app...

feature-request suggested-edits review

@waffles, please don't take it personally...

Yi Jiang

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Q: Please make /review route available as a link somewhere

Pretty much a self explanatory request, really, but I discovered /review today and think it's great. I really think that it ought to feature somewhere on the home page or closely related pages. Obvious areas for discussion: It should only be available to certain users above a certain amount of...

feature-request review

Add this link

Benjol

@YiJiang, ok thanks. Any others that you can spot?

Yi Jiang

Seriously though, popping the link the the suggested edits feature to 10k'ers and yet not adding the '/review' link is just plain wrong

Benjol

@YiJiang, makes it seem like they're not confident in the /review section yet...

which makes it even weirder to generalise the edit functionality

Yi Jiang

It's not bad, but there's definitely more to be done. However, the same is with the suggested edits thing. Even more so, if you ask me

Benjol

9:59 AM

Anyways, rep is the root of all evil. Most of the weirdness surrounding suggested edits is to avoid rep cheats

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