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12:00 AM
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@BilltheLizard If by "homework" you mean "dealing with @MichaelMrozek's mod flags at once"
 
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@TimStone Obviously you don't follow me on Twitter. It is very much my cup of tea. :)
 
@BilltheLizard That's why you go to the teachers' lounge instead of here. :)
 
Anyone else had to deal with Microsoft's VB6 Killbits update, and the damage it causes?
 
@Moshe So I added this /flag command to the chat userscript a while back..
 
@TimStone - Yes? ... and?
 
@BilltheLizard Ah, Twitter is a bit much even for me. ;)
 
@TimStone Twitter is a bit something for me, but I'm not sure "much" is the right word...
 
12:01 AM
@radp Indeed
Right, right.
 
@MichaelMrozek I had planned on clearing the queue then hitting the books, but you can see I got sucked in here.
 
The solution is eBooks, and multiple screens.
 
And no Tavern.
 
The solution is always multiple screens - and jQuery.
 
@Moshe The solution is always jQuery
 
12:03 AM
@MichaelMyers This is a blasphemous statement.
 
$('#StackOverflow').closeQueue().chat()
 
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException - Well, I broked da jQeery today.
 
I thought the solution was always to benchmark before you micro-optimize.
 
See, I've been trying to leave for the last 15 minutes but I haven't managed to do it.
 
:-)
 
12:04 AM
And I need to be at the airport in something like an hour and a half.
 
@MichaelMyers I've been trying to leave for the past 4 months and haven't been able to :-)
 
@MichaelMyers In that case, you best hurry up and get out of here. :P
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException Don't make us call your boss!
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Can we make a userscript to close the tavern?
 
(For pickup, not for flying)
 
@TimStone Point taken. :-D
 
12:05 AM
Promptness is arguably just as important in that case.
Ah, it would be nice if my eyes stopped feeling so swollen so that I could focus on this code..
 
He made it out.
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Great app: mindnode.com
So... Quiet...
 
@Moshe I am trying to work because @Tim threatened me ;-)
 
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException Get out of here! @JoshsSocks!
 
Oh, don't do that...
Really. You don't want him in here now @Moshe ;-)
Nor does anyone else I'm sure!
 
12:11 AM
Angry Birds is on the Mac App Store, I wonder how that works? But is it worth $5.99?
 
@Moshe I wouldn't play it for free; I don't get the appeal of that game at all
 
@Moshe Is the Mac App Store for 10.6 only?
 
It runs painfully slowly on my Android.
 
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException - Yes, if you update to 10.6.6
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException You have 10.5?
 
@Moshe Yes, 10.5.8
 
12:13 AM
@MichaelMrozek - Well it's a puzzle game.
 
@Moshe This is the game where you fling the birds at a structure, isn't it?
 
@MichaelMrozek - Yes.
The structure is what makes it a puzzle
 
I wouldn't classify that as a puzzle game
 
The structure is made of various elements and the birds damage various wall types.
 
Oh; I guess it's more complicated than I thought
 
12:14 AM
So the puzzle is figuring out how to attack the walls, ie, which part to destroy first etc.
imho, at least.
@BilltheLizard - which Android do you have? (just curious)
 
I need to watch a demo to see if mine is running at the right rate.
Hero.
 
Ah.
I'm an iOS dev so I may be biased, but...
based on my experience, the Android phones are a bit slow and unresponsive.
 
Is it normal for the birds to take 5-6 seconds to reach the target?
 
But I think the WinMo is the best, WinMo7 anyways.
@BilltheLizard - Is it animating the trajectory?
 
Yes. That seems to run really slow. Other games on the phone are a lot more responsive.
 
12:18 AM
It could be the game, not sure. It runs slow on a friend of mines Android also.
 
It also has ads downloading during gameplay, which could be slowing it down.
 
not sure which one, but it was running eclair.
could be.
gtg
 
yeah, me too. Later everyone.
 
nite
 
nite
 
12:21 AM
Later @radp, @Moshe and @BilltheLizard!
 
Back.
@The I think I'm slowly getting the hang of git.
Yay!
 
Good job @Moshe
Once you do, you'll love it and use it for everything
I mean I don't know git, but I know subversion, and I seriously miss it whenever I don't have it!
 
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException already do, only using it for things that don't require a private repo!
Are there any places that offer free private repos?
 
You could use subversion for things which do require a private repo
 
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException I assume that SVN is similar to git, yes?
 
12:35 AM
You could host it yourself, or, just use it locally
 
And then how does the "collaboration" part work though?
 
@Moshe I've never used git, but I they're the same basic concept
BRB
 
k
(When you come back) Why not just save my files locally instead of hosting a svn or git service?
 
Offsite copy, easier collaboration.
 
@TimStone - I'm not sure I understood that answer.
Please explain
 
12:38 AM
Github is not your house, so if your computer explodes, your code exists elsewhere, and Github is set up for people to be able to fork and push and pull from it with ease, so if you work with multiple people the ability to manage the repository is much simpler.
 
@TimStone Right, I got that, but @TheNeedsMoarJqueryException was saying that I should use a local copy of git or svn for free private repos.
In other words, he was telling me to host my own Git or SVN for private repos.
 
Oh.
In that case, revision tracking.
Much easier to see when changes were made, or to undo things that go wrong.
 
Ah, ok.
Fair enough.
So I need to learn how to do those things through the Terminal.
Thanks, @TimStone
 
Depends on what you're coding in, I guess. But yeah, it's a good idea. And no problem.
 
1:03 AM
@Moshe Git rocks. Go with git.
 
Since I left for lunch (and came back and worked and didn't open the tavern), you folks have burnt through 810 messages. Were any of them worth looking at?
I thought @radp might appreciate the view count on that
 
@TimStone That's what I was saying, @Moshe
 
@Moshe check in often and don't be ashamed of it
 
Sorry, had to talk to my boss for a bit there @Moshe :-)
@drachenstern Were you here when I got kicked out? :-)
 
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException don't believe I was
 
1:07 AM
@drachenstern Yup. The more check-ins (within reason) the better.
 
note to self: don't pour a soda and type at the same time ...
 
@GeorgeMarian Yeah, otherwise you get into....situations.
 
Interesting comment on the decline of StackOverflow: news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2077729
 
I do, however, have a request of the room. Can anybody explain this guy to me? He's confusing the shit out of me. "an array but not an array"
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Q: Any way for a class to prevent outside code from declaring variables of its type?

supercatIs it possible for a class of exposing a type for function returns, without allowing users of that class to create variables of that type? A couple usage scenarios: A Fluent interface on a large class; a statement like "foo=bar.WithX(5).WithY(9).WithZ(19);" would be inefficient if it had to cr...

 
@DanGrossman I fundamentally disagree with the opening sentence:
> I would like to try puzzling out why SO has gradually become less useful over time.
SO has become more useful over time. At least to me, anyway. I don't see his argument at all
 
1:10 AM
It's not an academic paper, it's a comment. Don't ignore it all just because you don't like the first sentence :p
 
LOL, I'm not :-)
 
I got annoyed by the use of "karma" :P
 
@TimStone Yeah I'm trying to get past that myself
 
I'm sometimes annoyed by the use of the word "reputation" on SO
Points from speed-answering stupid questions do not really improve my reputation with any real people
 
@DanGrossman yeah but what do you call it instead, and not make it sound like a game?
 
1:14 AM
Well, it is a game. I like karma, or just points.
 
Hello
 
Q&A on SO feels like playing on Xbox Live to me
 
I'm going into hiding on my chat terms (I've got them pinned away) so @me as you want to annoy me, I should see it :p
 
1:45 AM
wow I shut everybody up that quick? sorry
my slightly dain bramaged sister in law just asked me what model computer she has. I've never owned it. I've seen it in the corner of the room twice. WTF$@)$)%(@$#%)@%*^@%^@)(^%??????
 
at this point I'm just waiting on my mobile to ring
 
RING
 
surprisingly no
 
2:01 AM
@TimStone You wouldn't happen to know anything about these...situations. ;)
 
Hell, I'm still waiting for help deciphering :436045
I build a library. I give you my library. However, "The issue isn't with creating objects outside the code, but rather with allowing outside code to persist a reference to an object."
wouldn't persisting a reference to an object be what we want as programmers (so long as the object doesn't get destroyed while we're referencing it, thus giving garbage)
 
Sweet
 
2:27 AM
@GeorgeMarian Of course not.
 
2:43 AM
I need some juj!
 
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException Um, your socks?
 
2:59 AM
@Moshe I'm telling you @Moshe... You're playing with fire here ;-)
 

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