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12:00 PM
Unfortunately you need charisma, not intelligence to post spam here.
intelligence only has an effect if you are posting a genuine question.
If they is used as a singular pronoun, but a reflexive form is needed, should it be themselves or themself?
@2mkgz 1
12:02 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: MATPLOTLIB ANIMATION QUERY by Shaik Jaffer on stackoverflow.com
Note that "they" don't really have a reflexive form, "themselves" is by convention only.
Just try an example sentence here and see if Jan fixes it
@2mkgz If someone can’t work this out for themself, they surely have other problems.
@tchrist *themselves
12:03 PM
@Unihedron No.
@Unihedron *themself
!comp themself
12:03 PM
Must I really stoop to citing authority when reason alone should suffice?
keyword: should
!comp themself
keuword: I
@tchrist yes
12:04 PM
||define themself
He himself is very much like Latin egomet lit 'I-me', an emphatic form of the first person pronoun. English doesn't have many morphological resources left, but the reflexive pronoun compounds my/your/him/her/it/themself, our/your/themselves have the distinction of being the only English paradigm to still distinguish 2nd person singular (yourself) and plural (yourselves), to say nothing of the nonspecific indefinite themself that is now widely used as the reflexive of "singular they". — John Lawler Apr 16 '13 at 2:42
Dr Lawler is a professor of linguistics.
It would be called the same thing as the use of you in the singular is called; a singular use of a plural pronoun. Happens all the time. In this case it's the third-person singular use of plural they/their/them to refer to a non-specific indefinite human referent. Specifically, this is a use of the reflexive third-person pronoun, and that's doubly-inflected. Here the form themself is unambiguously singular, with the non-specific singular use of plural third-person them attached. Might as well get some use out of all that inflection. — John Lawler Aug 10 '14 at 20:25
12:07 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: stanford NLP training sentiment model by user3569852 on stackoverflow.com
That's why the only useful rule is not to use it if you're in any doubt whatsoever. And if you're not in any doubt whatsoever, you can write down the actual rule, right? The one that covers all situations? No? If not, just don't use whom. Ever. Because it's never necessary except in fixed phrases, like To whom it may concern or For whom the bell tolls. Anybody who thinks it makes you sound ignorant is giving themself away as clueless about language. So ignore them. — John Lawler Oct 11 '13 at 2:57
@SmokeDetector fpu
@tchrist what's going on?
Why keep posting random comments?
so "ourself" is also legit if you happen to be using pluralus maiesticus
I found 41 occurrences in the OED, from Caxton's 1483 "Humble themself the one ageynst the other", to a 1978 quotation from American Speech "Personal singular you similarly takes what is formally a plural verb form (are, were), as do French vous, German Sie, and Russian vy; as with singular they-themself, this `pluralization' of singular you can be said to follow reflexivization (whence a plural verb but a singular reflexive yourself)." — John Lawler May 23 '12 at 19:00
@ShadowWizard I was asked to cite authority.
I am complying with that request.
12:08 PM
@tchrist ??
Somebody needed to see it for themself.
I feel your pair Stan ... I do. Here is an example of what you are talking about most likely. A not constructive question that is totally subjective and cannot be answered factually generated how much reputation in this case? I believe the user should have to give back all those up vote reps. — demongolem Oct 9 '12 at 14:19
5 mins ago, by tchrist
Must I really stoop to citing authority when reason alone should suffice?
5 mins ago, by Braiam
@tchrist yes
So be it.
Is anyone else seeing weird caching across the network? For example, questions that show "Answered 7 minutes ago", but when you click on the question the most recent activity is 20 hours ago?
@Andy where exactly?
12:10 PM
@ShadowWizard You are context-deficient. Vide supra.
@tchrist I just posted a random comment, joining the train or whatever you were doing. (still no idea what authority you mean)
I see it on MSO right now, but I'm pretty sure I saw it on MSE earlier and just chalked it up to "it's early".
@ShadowWizard That’s because you jumped into the middle of something without paying attention to what had been going on in the conversation. Seldom a good idea.
For example: The Rapid Fire question, on the main page shows Martijn answered it 8 minutes ago now. When I click it, the answer is 20 hours old
We sshould sspeak to oursself like thiss more often
12:11 PM
@Andy you mean in the homepage?
@tchrist well', it's the Tavern. :D
@JanDvorak That’s an interesting idea. ER2 generally uses ourselves. However, examples such as a teacher tuttutting a child with ”I do think it time we learn to ask for ourself” are readily found in any substantive corpus.
Because the teacher is using that funny kind of we which is a second-person singular.
It’s somewhat condescending.
@Andy nope, no repro here. Either it's affecting part of the users, or something on your end e.g. userscript going wild.
12:15 PM
No userscripts, so I can safely rule that one out :)
@Andy try different browser :)
I see it in Chrome and Firefox
I'm not annoyed enough to launch IE and test it there
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12:29 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted user: My iPhone 4 won't send text messages! by Bob the builder on apple.stackexchange.com
Mar 30 at 21:45, by hichris123
Not having a ton of faith in that user... so why don't we blacklist them?
@hichris123 ^ look what you've done
@Andy your system clock is screwed
@Braiam How so?
@SmokeDetector I remember those posts, anyone can detect a meaningful answer in this?
@Andy your clock is late... very late
12:36 PM
@bummi assume good faith, edit into shape or leave a comment asking for improvement.
@Unihedron I'm not able to edit this :/
suggest one :P
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Make a scalable Christmas Tree by user39502 on codegolf.stackexchange.com
@2mkgz gone
@bummi better flag as VLQ because that's what it is.
(did it now)
@ShadowWizard thanks (my always lack of English :/ )
@Andy IE should require pushing a big red button then enter two strong passwords in order to be launched.
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Undefined citation in Bibtex by Federico Calio' on tex.stackexchange.com
12:56 PM
@bummi sure! That answer is just a pile of nonsense under cover.
@Unihedron some turds can't be polished... I read the answer 3 times. It didn't become any better or clearer.
@SmokeDetector tpu
@LynnCrumbling Blacklisted user.
@ShadowWizard IIRC smokey did not warn for nothing, there have been more than one of those post weeks ago
@SmokeDetector tp question as answer
@LynnCrumbling true/tp cannot be used for answers because their job is to add the title of the question to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'. If you want to blacklist the poster of the answer, use trueu or tpu.
12:59 PM
@bummi yup - hopefully users on the site would downvote and delete, then the [enter title here, not spammer though] will be answer banned.
> 504 Gateway Time-out cloudflare-nginx (tex.stackexchange.com)
@LynnCrumbling ?
tex has been REALLY slow in responding...
then that.
It's back now.
Much faster at the moment.
woah, my Chrome just hiccup
1:06 PM
@LynnCrumbling I was having problems on Money and Stats. Network-wide hiccup perhaps?
Now it's slow again.
@dsolimano Seems like it.
@LynnCrumbling looks like this?
Modifies user's code.
@Braiam He’s probably using a cell phone and forgetting to compensate for general relativity, local gravitational anomalies, and frame-dragging.
@rene No, mine was just an njinx response.. bare bones. It was fleeting, though, so I think we're back to normal.
1:14 PM
@LynnCrumbling Not on my watch.
@LynnCrumbling well, yes, this makes it better, unless he is asking about compile issues
@tchrist you forgot solar flares
@Braiam I didn’t realize they caused time dilation.
@rene @tchrist Your opinions seem to differ.
@tchrist only on the subspace
1:16 PM
I don't like modifying the OQ's code in ways that change the tokenization.
For white space formatting, possibly even comments, well, that is different.
or if it was a mistake on the variable/function/whatever name on an answer
Typos in function names on answers, sure.
1:18 PM
as long as it doesn't change the logic/functionality is fine
That edit didn't change the intent of the OP. Clearly a class was meant and classes don't end with parenthesis in c#. Beyond that the editor removed the salutation and that alone is worth approval....
Does anybody understand what is asked here?
[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in answer: OpenGeo Explorer for QGIS 2.6.1 - No module named ogr2ogrtopostgis by natan on gis.stackexchange.com
@rene not a whole lot I think. The OP should just be aware he can flag "other" and explain there's a whole bunch of obsolete comments rather than flagging each individual one. I think that's the gist
@Bart Really.... that's a lot of text then to ask that....
@rene left a comment. Let's see if he calls me an idiot and flags it.
1:27 PM
Don't worry, I already did
I didn't expect anything else
Side comment: When defining a class, you don't use parenthesis next to the class name. — Rufus L 24 mins ago
someone already pointed it out... no response, its a corpse
Let's hope it stays dead
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Calculating Power of a Non-Continuous Signal by M.SINGH on electronics.stackexchange.com
> On April 30th 2010, I joined @StackExchange, then called "Stack Overflow Internet Services Inc." So today marks my 5-year anniversary! -- Ben Dumke-v. d. Ehe at 2:02 AM - 30 Apr 2015 via Twitter
1:39 PM
@2mkgz Retweeted!
@rene That is not dead which can eternal lie. . . .
What's the url syntax for a tag-based feed (for a single tag?)
@LynnCrumbling rss?
1:42 PM
@LynnCrumbling nope
to set the name of the tag you need the tagnames parameter
@Braiam That link appears to be working.. why?
it's the active tab
1:45 PM
Ah, ok
mm... mse seems to present them differently
probably because it assumes multiple tags
Uh oh, found bug! When unicode characters are used as room tags, they become "?"
yet another unicode bug
@PatrickHofman yes, or POB
1:54 PM
@rene Okay. Thanks for your vote.
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted user: My iPhone 4 won't send text messages! by Bob the builder on apple.stackexchange.com
Then when will this question stop gathering answers if everyone that have "experience in this matter" would answer it? — Braiam 5 secs ago
^ gone
2:03 PM
@rene okay, nope. I don't get what the guy is going for.
Maybe un-elaborate is not a word? Anyway, it has an answer now
@PatrickHofman It is indeed .. and needs one more cv. stackoverflow.com/q/29968693/656243
Resharper is adjusting namespaces.... validating symbols 7398 of 45.600...and that took over 15 minutes.....
@rene Is it worth it? I've heard lots of good things.. but never tried it.
2:15 PM
Unitl I used that function I liked it a lot...
I retract my earlier statement about being lucky to get 1 ping. I had 6, and an extra 40 rep.
Stupid history teacher. "I don't think we [the U.S. Gov] should be spending so much money on space exploration. We should spend it on more important things that will actually affect us"
Like, no research, srsly?
@bjb568 Then again, we might want to try fixing the problems on one planet before we ruin another.
Not mutually exclusive.
@bjb568 I'd agree with them. For example, we really need to have nuclear fission by now before China burns all the coal ever.
And oil.
And wood.
And flammable ice.
2:25 PM
@LynnCrumbling I'm here now.
@ProgramFOX I think I concluded that my feature-request would be a bad idea.
@bjb568 No, but we should spend funding fixing the things that could hinder our space exploration. For example, power.
@ASCIIThenANSI I just said that. :)
@Unihedron : |
@LynnCrumbling Ah, yup, just saw some more pings.
2:26 PM
Like seriously, the nuclear reactor technology we're using now dates back to inventions in 1990!!! because they stopped getting funded...
This explains why I got 7 inbox notifications :P
The point is reducing space funding won''t improve anything.
@bjb568 Yes. The fund goes to somewhere else.
Defense otoh...
Why don't we spend some money on peace so we can all work together and get into space?
2:27 PM
@Unihedron not how borked budget works
@ASCIIThenANSI Good idea! I'll buy some weapons to enforce peace on all of you...
@2mkgz Good spot, thanks! Going to fix that, too.
@rene That's a bad idea. Your weapons will be seen as intimidation, and just cause more wars.
I'll call them peace weapons, problem solved.
Finding common ground and reaching a compromise is the road to peace. Telling people you're going to blow up the world if they don't do what you want is not.
@rene Yeah, spray a couple flower decals on there, totally legit.
2:30 PM
Flower. Rene. Hey...
Rene's back!
Whatever. Let's cause a flamewar!

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Nice those warm welcomes for NAA's superuser.com/a/908145/172747
@bummi Flag it?
@ASCIIThenANSI already done
2:52 PM
@Andy Come on. These guys don't even try to hide it anymore.
@yellowantphil I don't see why the answers are getting downvoted (not like they should be upvoted.) They gave the asker what she wanted - the problem is in her question.
@yellowantphil closed
@Andy needs one more
that's why ^^
2:57 PM
@ASCIIThenANSI I downvoted to make sure that the question eventually gets deleted
awww.. I had my own star just for a second (accidentally)
@Andy I flag the question as spam, and it gets denied.
answering bad questions that do not fit SO means encouraging more of those questions.
@ShadowWizard yes
2:58 PM
It's the little things in life.
@Andy it got upvoted
@Bart Of course it did.
@Bart Everything is in negative votes!
@ASCIIThenANSI alas, you can't split the up and down votes yet
@SmokeDetector fp
2:59 PM
@LynnCrumbling Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.
@yellowantphil Regardless, it shouldn't be denied just because there was one upvote.
why is that limited to 1000 rep? what's so bad about letting other people see the vote breakdown?
@yellowantphil I've often wondered this. I suppose it's just another incentive?
@yellowantphil cost I believe.
Q: Why is it a privilege to view vote counts?

GendoIkariJust curious, why is there a required privilege (especially one as high as 1000) to view vote counts for a post? It's not like someone can mess up a post by just viewing the vote counts. Is it just to give people incentive to reach 1000?

@Bart weird
3:01 PM
@yellowantphil Not very. It prevents people who don't use the site much, spammers, and new users from clogging up the server.
I noticed yesterday that it rate limits you on expanding votes too
didn't think it would be that hard on the server, but who knows 🐱
They're sticklers for speed/performance.
@yellowantphil Go see how many users are under just 500 rep on SO alone.
@ASCIIThenANSI hmm, about 2.8 million 🐱
This is page 40000 of SO's users page, and only just then (out of 100000+ pages) do we see users with just 3 rep.
3:06 PM
Q: VoteCounts: bookmarklet to display up/down votes even for rep less than 1000

SztupYScreenshot / Code Snippet About This small bookmarklet will allow anyone to use the "vulnerability" of the API that it allows you to check the up/down vote count - a feat you could normally achieve by being a 1k+rep user. Mainly useful for sites where you don't have this amount of reputation ...

And only about 1/3rd of them on SO can use SO Meta.
@rene I usually don't care about the breakdown. As long as it's negative I'm happy.
@rene Neat trick.
OK, new game: What (by just a rough estimate) is your most frequent edit comment?
@yellowantphil Where'd you find that out?
@ASCIIThenANSI just made it up/typed things in the calculator wrong
could have made a mistake in there somewhere
@yellowantphil 36 users per page (9*4). Last page doesn't count.
@yellowantphil Even still, that means that around 3 million users could clog up the vote counts. As if spam wasn't bad enough.
in Whining Room, 40 mins ago, by ASCIIThenANSI
No one visits these rooms anymore, and all they have to do is press 'all rooms' and find one with very few to no people in it.
3:17 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: Why is the N word considered offensive? by littleredhen on english.stackexchange.com
@ASCIIThenANSI all of my comments are unique, like snowflakes
@SmokeDetector that's funny
^^ Not sure what to do here.
@yellowantphil mine is 'clarified what the user was asking - reject if this was not it'
"why is it offensive?" "because Smokey says so"
@ASCIIThenANSI “First, do no harm.”
@SmokeDetector ignore
3:18 PM
@Unihedron Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.
the people at english.SE can figure it out themselves :)
@Unihedron Glad that's over.
@Unihedron What’s to figure? It’s a mention not a use, and it is not in the title. Fair game.
3:19 PM
@SmokeDetector ignore (mocked)
@Unihedron Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.
Everyone thinks that quote blocks are code blocks.
[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in answer: Restrict data for google play services by Robin on android.stackexchange.com
@ASCIIThenANSI there's one on SO as well
@Unihedron I mean that it's called 'The North Pole' and the transcript says 'This room has been frozen for inactivity'.
3:23 PM
@ASCIIThenANSI buh-dum-bum-bum ...
"tip your waitresses"
@LynnCrumbling But I'm just sitting here, in a park, eating a sandwich I made.
> we're very close to launching Stack Overflow In Spanish. -- Tim Post
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Connecting two VLANs together on a single switch by Bjorn Lagace on networkengineering.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector NAA
Who thinks it would be a cool idea to have a room only certain people can talk in?
3:30 PM
That's a gallery room.
@Unihedron Where are they?
I mean, such feature exists.
@Unihedron Ah. But do we have one?
@Unihedron Drat.
3:31 PM
I can help you convert one since I have that rep - I'm not sure if you have the tool to revert it back to public when you demand though
@Unihedron Hrm... Can I create one, and then make you owner to convert it?
I think so
@Unihedron OK, let's try it.
^^ OK, we're ready to go.
@bluefeet I found digitial boobies for you
@SterlingArcher IT'S A TRAP!
3:36 PM
@ASCIIThenANSI If only I could bribe you with a bounty, in chat - The room does not exist, or you do not have permission - retry / edit / cancel
@dsolimano I think there's a 'request access' button somewhere.
wat? I posted it xD
@dsolimano If you really want permission, I could probably give it to you.
@dsolimano Try refreshing, then you'll get the interface to request access.
at the moment OT, let's see if it's a spam seed: meta.stackexchange.com/q/254665/201151
3:41 PM
@ASCIIThenANSI Done. I'm not sure what I'm going to do with it once I get it, but I'm sure you'll regret giving it to me.
@dsolimano Done.
@bummi Removed.
Wow, it got quiet fast.
3:57 PM
@ASCIIThenANSI hmm, there is no Unicode character for a cricket
@yellowantphil I know!
🐱 ← eats crickets
^^^ No clue...
It's Workplace. :/
4:01 PM
Who should our (new) pro-tem moderators be? -- unprecedented replacement of all pro-tem mods, now on Buddhism.
A: Could / Should we hold informal moderator elections?

abby hairboatAn informal election like this would be highly unusual and probably unprecedented, but likely not disallowed. We can't run an official election (like Stack Overflow's) on a beta site like Buddhism, but we always honor a moderator's request to step down if desired and we take the community's input...

@2mkgz Strange...
@Unihedron mm... the fact that he's answering Abby's answer with another answer surprises me
4:17 PM
abby is in the room if you people have stuff to ask them :p
4:28 PM
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@AlexisKing YOU ANGRY TOO?
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4:48 PM
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You gotta love Smokey.
^ that's what triggered smokey
Well, the activity on the question, not the heuristics of the answer.
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@SmokeDetector tpu
@ASCIIThenANSI Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
5:03 PM
@Bart I'm sure you have an opinion on this as you are on the top users list
5:13 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: I Need to Hire a Ninja Forms Pro by Michael Stetina on wordpress.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
Is "looking to hire" considered spam, inappropiate, or other?
5:18 PM
^ yuck; needs to be edited
@LynnCrumbling Edited.
So.. what to do here.. the user posted this NAA that I brought up earlier. When told it was an NAA, he posted a dup to the original (and admitted it was a dup in the new question).
His new question is MUCH more verbose, but normally I'd close as dup of the other.
@ASCIIThenANSI nice!
@LynnCrumbling Re-edit the old question instead. This way, the 'verbose' version is saved, but the original question remains intact, with all its rep gains/losses/information.
@ASCIIThenANSI What do you mean by "re-edit the old question"?
@LynnCrumbling Take his question and re-format it, so it can be added as an edit into the old question. (or have the user do it, if the +2 rep really matters)
We can't alter the original question to include new content.
We can append comments to it.
@LynnCrumbling We could just mention that setEnabled(false) doesn't work.
5:28 PM
Yeah, that's a great comment to add.
Then you close the other as a dupe, but comment, letting the new poster know why it's being closed.
You mean, close the new one as a dup?
@LynnCrumbling Yeah, but any information he had that could be important can be left in a comment.
I agree.
second : added comment.
And now we wait for him to come back and edit his post.
5:32 PM
@LynnCrumbling poor dup target :/
btw. does somebody know something about mhotspot.com, I have a spam feeling on an answer
@bummi It is - hence my comments up half a page :) ^^^^^^^^^
@bummi Where is the answer?
here : superuser.com/a/908002/172747 panding to flag since this morning
mHotspot | Turn your Laptop into WiFi Hotspot
Free software to use your windows computer/laptop as virtual wifi router and create a free wifi hotspot.
^ From google
@bummi Seems like spam, can't tell...
> Hey guys, what do you see in this shape? #logo #design pic.twitter.com/CjtQedro4N -- Stéphane Martin at 7:09 AM - 30 Apr 2015 via Twitter
5:35 PM
A logo for Biology site?
who flipped the up/downvote icon?
@2mkgz Biology.SE is confirmed!
@bummi The OP also has a question posted on the site... so does not fit in the spammer pattern. I think it's just VLQ.
@stephane_m_ That how the up/down vote icons look now? It's entangled though.
@2mkgz I know, even he participated on SO (but I had spammers of this sort to, still thinking :) )
5:38 PM
@Unihedron Obviously not, these are icons for voting sideways.
@Unihedron No, it's got 3 bars in the middle...HALF-LIFE 3 is confirmed!
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