Tavern on the Meta

@EdCottrell Sorry to keep speaking in terms of 'might do' - we're moving pretty fast with this, which means the data is moving pretty fast, so ... but yes, we're pretty focused on it. The design is fantastic, there's just so many knobs to tweak, and we're making even more. — Tim Post ♦ 8 hours ago

user259867

Not my idea of fantastic design, but... maybe it's more to Doorknob's taste.

hichris123

12:40 AM

I agree with Smokey: gibberish: math.stackexchange.com/a/1258433/109790

ASCIIThenANSI

@hichris123 Wow I didn't know that you could just oiwefliuewnwjeqnfweqljnfU $23 or9823 923ouefn to communicate.

hichris123

asfasfwafewfewafeyteway21351235?

ASCIIThenANSI

@hichris123 asdfasdfhjklhjkl1234567890.

hichris123

qwertyuiop aewt0awetkj wa;ye;'

ASCIIThenANSI

@hichris123 Tseeh keSymo sptos kaem em lefe grnay...

┻━┻ ︵ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ︵ ┻━┻ ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)

Are you angry?

hichris123

12:51 AM

:w

ASCIIThenANSI

If you are, let's flip some tables!

hichris123

Challenge: talk only in vim commands for an hour.

ASCIIThenANSI

@hichris123 Challenge accepted! (Or at least attempted)

a

Hello!

Esc

:w

yellowantphil

@ASCIIThenANSI E32: No file name

ASCIIThenANSI

1:07 AM

a

OK, I think I got this.

Esc

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: PRIMEFACES DOESN'T SHOW BLOB FILES by Alessio Mugnaioni on stackoverflow.com

ASCIIThenANSI

:w StackExchangeChats/rooms/TavernOnTheMeta

yellowantphil

@ASCIIThenANSI "StackExchangeChats/rooms/TavernOnTheMeta" E212: Can't open file for writing

user259867

user259867

Nobody's reviewing at Русский язык. :(

user259867

1:10 AM

More than half of the LQ queue is my NAA flags, and they are not being reviewed.

user259867

Granted, it seems that nobody is using the site, either.

Roombatron5000

no mods there

user259867

And only 38 users with reputation 1000, which is required for that queue on a beta.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: FULMINOLOGY HERE NOW by Michael Lewendon on physics.stackexchange.com

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil :w !sudo tee % > /dev/null

@SmokeDetector tpu SPAM

SmokeDetector

1:14 AM

@ASCIIThenANSI Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

Roombatron5000

!!/so2015

yellowantphil

@ASCIIThenANSI [sudo] password for ASCIIThenANSI:

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil Password for ASCIIThenANSI: *******

yellowantphil

actually I’m wrong

@ASCIIThenANSI E499: Empty file name for '%' or '#', only works with ":p:h"

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil :h E499

James

1:22 AM

@ASCIIThenANSI did you read it?

That is one of the strangest things i've seen online in a while

ASCIIThenANSI

@James Yes, I did. Now I need to purge it from my mind forever.

yellowantphil

@ASCIIThenANSI it’s really long...

ASCIIThenANSI

E149: Sorry, no help for E499

yellowantphil

I’m wrong again

I was right the first time... it prompts for a password

I keep exiting vim and it screws up your command history

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil Password for ASCIIThenANSI:

(Blank spaces)

yellowantphil

1:25 AM

it keeps prompting

also, the account in question has no valid password

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil Noooooo!

yellowantphil

password is ! in /etc/shadow

ASCIIThenANSI

a

user259867

wat scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/87620/…

ASCIIThenANSI

Well then. Here goes nothing!

@2mkgz (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)

@yellowantphil Esc

:w TavernOnTheMeta

yellowantphil

1:29 AM

@ASCIIThenANSI "TavernOnTheMeta" E212: Can't open file for writing

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer: Is there any consistency regarding time travel in Star Trek? by Marrio Pacheco on scifi.stackexchange.com

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil :p

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@ASCIIThenANSI Blacklisted user.

ASCIIThenANSI

Come on, people...

Braiam

@SmokeDetector why?

yellowantphil

1:34 AM

@ASCIIThenANSI Come on, people...

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil :!mkdir -p StackExchange/chat/rooms/

yellowantphil

mkdir: cannot create directory ‘StackExchange’: Permission denied
shell returned 1
Press ENTER or type command to continue

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted user: What happens if the Sith Master dies by some means other than at the Apprentice's hand? by Marrio Pacheco on scifi.stackexchange.com

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil :!ls

yellowantphil

@ASCIIThenANSI lost+found pacman phil

ASCIIThenANSI

1:36 AM

@yellowantphil :!ls pacman/

yellowantphil

[No write since last change]
Press ENTER or type command to continue

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil :w

yellowantphil

@ASCIIThenANSI "StackExchangeChats/rooms/TavernOnTheMeta" E212: Can't open file for writing

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil :w phil/TavernOnTheMeta

yellowantphil

useradd apparently doesn’t create a home directory automatically. you are homeless

2

@ASCIIThenANSI "phil/TavernOnTheMeta" E212: Can't open file for writing

ASCIIThenANSI

1:39 AM

@yellowantphil :!sudo mkdir -p /home/ASCIIThenANSI

yellowantphil

you still don’t have sudo, or a password

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil Hrm...

bjb568

@SmokeDetector abusive

@yellowantphil *housingly challenged

Braiam

@yellowantphil adduser

yellowantphil

@Braiam I have no adduser

Braiam

1:42 AM

@yellowantphil what you have then?

su?

I have lots of stuff

stuff

what about things?

just not particularly useful for solving your problems

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil :!ls /

yellowantphil

1:44 AM

bin dev home lib64 mnt proc run srv tmp var
boot etc lib lost+found opt root sbin sys usr windows

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil :!ls /home

Braiam

---stares--- glares at the windows directory

Doorknob

lol that's what I was thinking

yellowantphil

@ASCIIThenANSI lost+found pacman phil

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil :!ls /home/pacman

yellowantphil

1:45 AM

windows is empty, for those who are ... staring

you already did that

you’re in /home

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil :!echo "Who's laughing now?" > /home/TavernOnTheMeta

yellowantphil

@ASCIIThenANSI /bin/bash: /home/TavernOnTheMeta: Permission denied

I can think of two directories you can write to

only two, unless my file system is screwed up

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil :!echo "I'm free!" > /dev/stdout

Braiam

@ASCIIThenANSI you mean :!sh -c "echo 'Who's laughing now?" > /home/TavernOnTheMeta'

yellowantphil

@ASCIIThenANSI /bin/bash: /dev/stdout > /dev/stdout: No such file or directory

^ wot

ASCIIThenANSI

1:48 AM

@yellowantphil :!echo "Yeah... messed up for sure."

:!ls /dev/

yellowantphil

it’s long

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil :!ls /dev/s*

yellowantphil

still long

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil :!ls /dev/std*

Braiam

std*

yellowantphil

1:49 AM

/dev/stderr@ /dev/stdin@ /dev/stdout@

Braiam

@ASCIIThenANSI is a symlink

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil :!ls /dev/stdout

yellowantphil

@Braiam no?

@ASCIIThenANSI /dev/stdout@

this is a lot of spam...

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil :!readlink -f /dev/stdout

Doorknob

wait, what spam? where? /me wants free flags

ASCIIThenANSI

1:51 AM

@Doorknob Nowhere. This is an educational discussion.

yellowantphil

gah I can’t delete you while you’re logged in

Terminated

but I can kill your process

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil You could use the --schwarzenegger flag.

Hasta la vista, process 1292.

On the bright side, I won.

1 hour ago, by hichris123

Challenge: talk only in vim commands for an hour.

yellowantphil

what is your prize?

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil Not sure. You'd have to ask him.

yellowantphil

I guess it’s easier to talk in vim commands since you get ! followed by anything

ASCIIThenANSI

1:58 AM

@yellowantphil Yeah. But I was having fun seeing how messed up your system is.

yellowantphil

not very? other than your account

life is hard with no home directory

and no password

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil /dev/stdout wouldn't open. That's something.

yellowantphil

you’re just using it wrong

it’s there, and it works fine

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil Back to the researching lands!

yellowantphil

@ASCIIThenANSI bash interpreted the ! after free. Could be a problem

ASCIIThenANSI

2:00 AM

@yellowantphil facepalm Forgot to use escapes again...

@yellowantphil We should have a room with an event like that. Hmm...

yellowantphil

“Try to hack yellowantphil’s computer”?

I guess I could make a chatbot that gives you shell access

but I won’t

Doorknob

that sounds like a good idea

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil Virtual machine?

yellowantphil

could work

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil You could make one, stuff some fake junk on it, then users would send commands and you'd run them (if they wouldn't harm your real computer, of course.)

yellowantphil

2:09 AM

@ASCIIThenANSI sounds like work

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil Not really. It's simple: to setup, make a bunch of fake files. Then, just copy/paste their commands, while just barely looking them over so they don't try sudo rm -rf / or something.

yellowantphil

if I can’t do it while asleep, it’s work

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil Hmm. Now it seems like a bad idea. You'd need a bot, and a bot can't catch everything...

yellowantphil

it would work if my computer has no security vulnerabilities

well, it might be tough to protect against fork bombs

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil Regardless, any nasty stuff people can to on their computers, without a lot of protection, they can do on yours. Setting up protection is hard work, and takes the fun out of it.

tchrist

2:14 AM

@yellowantphil limit maxproc 24

yellowantphil

@tchrist tough to protect against fork bombs unless you are tchrist

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil Oh. But you'd need to prevent anyone hacking the computer outside the VM and doing nasty things there.

yellowantphil

or getting on my network, or spamming

shouldn’t the roomba be running about now?

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil Or getting out to the whole internet, infecting everyone with a virus

@yellowantphil Oh no.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Questionário para cadeira de TCC by edison Lima on pt.stackoverflow.com

ASCIIThenANSI

2:18 AM

Well, that ends that idea.

yellowantphil

that last comment of mine was completely unrelated to anything else

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: What is the best way to design a paper questionnaire to support scanning and converting to raw data? by user33836 on academia.stackexchange.com

ASCIIThenANSI

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@ASCIIThenANSI Blacklisted user.

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil Even still. The robots are lying in wait! They will destroy us all!

yellowantphil

2:20 AM

@ASCIIThenANSI throw away all your tech and live in the mountains! it is your only hope

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil Destroy us all!

user259867

@SmokeDetector This appears to be "Faz propaganda, sem explicar a ligação com o assunto e o."

yellowantphil

@SmokeDetector needs more spam flags

does anyone ever log in as Smoke Detector? there must be a million notifications waiting from missed pings

or can a bot clear its own notifications

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil No, but you can simulate those pings by asking a bunch of bad questions, spamming in a bunch of chatrooms, then leaving for a few days. Instant pretend fame and real banning!

Which reminds me, I wonder how many pings mods get every day...

yellowantphil

ping Shog and ask him

ASCIIThenANSI

2:29 AM

@yellowantphil For reals?

yellowantphil

no

I pinged Shog once... I feel fortunate to be alive today

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil Cause I think that just adds to the problem.

That's better.

yellowantphil

you mentioned the Name That Shall Not Be Named

where is everyone? 😒

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil We are the last humans left alive.

Let's go see if anyone is anywhere else.

yellowantphil

then where are the bots?! 😲

and how do you know I’m not a bot

that latest user name to come in looks like a bot

ASCIIThenANSI

2:33 AM

@yellowantphil OH NO!

yellowantphil

hichris is probably a bot too

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil What if I'm a bot?

yellowantphil

!bjb I am a bot

bjb568

me am a bot [translated]

ASCIIThenANSI

Then forget this!

user259867

2:33 AM

Dec 20 '14 at 5:46, by Undo

yellowantphil

@2mkgz aha 😲

ASCIIThenANSI

@2mkgz spits out coffee, then mouth sucks in all fluids to spit them out

tchrist

In Steven Brust's Dragaeran Cycle, the Empire is rules by a monarch who has the help of a "magical" orb that spins around their head. Any of its millions of citizens can ping it to check the exact millisecond clock time, etc. But they can also use it to mentally contact the Emperor directly. They are almost always blasted to death for being a pest.

user259867

Undo is the only one who has access to Smokey's SE account, afaik.

ASCIIThenANSI

@tchrist gasp

!bjb I am a bot. Can I have a test?

bjb568

2:34 AM

me am a bot. can me have a test? [translated]

ASCIIThenANSI

!bjb Okay thanks.

bjb568

oh... kayy thankz. [translated]

yellowantphil

@tchrist so, pretty much like Shog?

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil gasp!

!bjb Quick, hide under this unsuspicious rock!

tchrist

It is good to be the Emperor. It is perilous in the extreme to pester said Emperor.

bjb568

2:35 AM

quick, hide under dis unsuspiciuz rock [translated]

tchrist

@yellowantphil In every way.

yellowantphil

I escaped with my life after pinging Shog once. I will not try again.

hichris123

I can neither confirm nor deny if I am a bot.

yellowantphil

I could look up the script that tests replicants

the questions are mostly unsavory though

hichris123

Q1: Are you a bot?

Doorknob

2:38 AM

They'd use that Futurama episode with Fry's dog, but even spambots cry at that.

yellowantphil

You're in a desert, walking along in the sand, when all of a sudden you look down. You look down and see a tortoise, Leon. It's crawling toward you. You reach down and you flip the tortoise over on its back, Leon. The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can't. Not without your help. But you're not helping. Why is that, Leon?

Doorknob

That... was from Umwelt, right?

yellowantphil

Bladerunner

if you are talking about the tortoise

ASCIIThenANSI

@2mkgz I'm lucky to get even 1 ping.

yellowantphil

and what is Umwelt?

@ASCIIThenANSI two

Doorknob

2:40 AM

Ah, Randall referenced it once then.

SmokeDetector

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ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil I mean on posts. Chat is fairly easy, its questions and answers that are hard.

tchrist

If you have not read Jhereg, you should. Do NOT piss off the Empress: just as your link to the Orb lets you check its clock ticks and perform other feats of computational (and other) "magic", she can always use your always-on network connection to it to hunt you down and mind blast you into a jelly doughnut.

Doorknob

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@Doorknob Blacklisted user.

:3380115 Blacklisted user.

user259867

2:41 AM

chat lag :(

Doorknob

is faster

ASCIIThenANSI

is still cooler

says 'Goodbye, friends!'

bjb568

hallo friends

yellowantphil

he arrives

not only his bot

Braiam

TO͇̹̺ͅƝ̴ȳ̳ TH̘Ë͖́̉ ͠P̯͍̭O̚N̐Y̡ H̸̡̪̯ͨ͊̽̅̾̎Ȩ̬̩̾͛ͪ̈́̀́͘ ̶̧̨̱̹̭̯ͧ̾ͬC̷̙̲̝͖ͭ̏ͥͮ͟Oͮ͏̮̪̝͍M̲̖͊̒ͪͩͬ̚̚͜Ȇ̴̟̟͙̞ͩ͌͝S̨̥̫͎̭ͯ̿̔̀ͅ

tchrist

2:45 AM

No donkey shows in this chat.

bjb568

Donkey show

A donkey show is a type of sexual performance most often associated with Tijuana, Mexico, in which a woman engages in bestiality with a donkey. Local taxi drivers offer tourists a ride to see a donkey show in the red light district. The shows are difficult to verify and may be urban legends, but anecdotal accounts are frequent. Author Jim Dawson writes: "No doubt there are clandestine clubs that have put these sordid floorshows on display, but if every man who claims he actually saw one is telling the truth, there must be a lot of bowlegged women hobbling around Tijuana." The "donkey show" in Tijuana...

huh

Braiam

err... yeah, I didn't want to know that

yellowantphil

wait umm... I’m going back to my other tabs now

Alexis King

Aarrgh, somebody keeps going around upvoting terrible questions in my niche tags. :<

Can I enlist a Tavern downvote brigade?

bjb568

:D

yellowantphil

2:48 AM

@AlexisKing I hate everything. I’m in 🐱

Alexis King

downvote-brigade-pls stackoverflow.com/q/29958089/465378

yellowantphil

except I have no clue what that means

tchrist

I have been to Tia Juana often enough, and even to wild parties there, but no burro show did I ever see. Notice the article does not come in Spanish: no te lo creas.

Alexis King

@yellowantphil You don't have to! Just click the little down arrow! :D

It doesn't even cost you any rep. ;P

bjb568

LQ stackoverflow.com/q/29958089

Braiam

2:50 AM

> the problem has less to do with the (cond) and more to do with the #:when

bjb568

There, more explicit ^^

Braiam

no context is the best context