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ArtOfCode

12:10 AM

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wheee

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user384163

Well @Catija thank you for sharing with us. The babe is super cute and I was never very regular here so I never got to see them before today. (Well besides the pfp)

Journeyman Geek

@Catija my mom is awwing over your kids. ;p

(hey, gotta pressure them somehow.... ;p)

Catija

@JourneymanGeek awww ! Say hi!

@AGirlHasNoName happy to. I figure something fun was in order.

user384163

Yes. Far too little of that of late.

Journeyman Geek

@Catija the cashier at our local supermarket was nagging my mom about yanno XDXDXD

Catija

12:24 AM

Maybe she’ll realize.

Journeyman Geek

Their focus is still on the other thing

but that's been going on for... 4 years?

Catija

Oh. For some reason I thought that was practically resolved.

Journeyman Geek

Nope

Stormblessed

1:13 AM

@ArtOfCode why?

user384163

you really want that to stay?

Stormblessed

@AGirlHasNoName oh how it displayed it was unclear on my phone what got moved...never mind that should go

!!/watch- 6200764131

David A

1:34 AM

@TannerSwett There are several people who just can't pull themselves away from meta for reasons I can't explain.

user384163

yah I agree. I don't get why people can't put down the drama. whistles innocently

David A

Awwww.. Someone deleted a bunch of the comments in @terdon's question.

Journeyman Geek

@DavidA eh. If it matters it needs to be an answer

Joseph Sible

3:47 AM

With regard to meta.stackexchange.com/a/197731/386992, would 16 questions count as "a handful" that I can just do, or should I look for a mod?

Journeyman Geek

@JosephSible I would totally suggest asking a question on meta

There might be some arguments for/against keeping the tag

and there may be more than one way to handle it (simple retagging, tag removal and expiry, or synonymnisation)

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

4:12 AM

Generally, most communities frown upon having tags changed/removed on many questions at a time without a meta post.

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Q: Why are tags on MSE being regularly removed/deprecated without discussion?

For a while now, on a daily basis, the front page of Meta.SE has been populated with old questions bumped because of retaggings -- mostly removals. Today ignore seems to be the target. As far as I know, burnination of tags should be well-motivated and accompanied by a Meta proposal to make sure ...

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

5:13 AM

!!/watch sarikastyle\.com

SmokeDetector

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog That pattern looks like it's already caught by Potentially bad keyword in body and Potentially bad keyword in answer; append -force if you really want to do that.

202324

7:42 AM

!!/coffee !!!

SmokeDetector

@202324 brews a cup of Americano for @!!!

rene

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202324

8:11 AM

I know I might seem disruptive at times - I guess I am to some degree. But I deeply respect moderation work a lot more than I'll normally appear.

user58

If you respect it, it'd be appreciated if you don't try to stir up stuff better left alone.

I suspect that no balpha = no Bash this year. We'll see.

Journeyman Geek

8:40 AM

@user58 erf

That would be terrible

user58

Fun fact: There have been roughly 6,000 comments posted on MSE in the past seven days.

By my calculations.

202324

@user58 most of what trouble I seem to make is due to others misconceptions and not my fault.

user58

@202324 Perhaps work on actively preventing some misconceptions, then. If you're constantly being misunderstood, something's wrong.

202324

Naaah, no no no. If I happened to engage every single time others are wrong, as many do, then there would be something wrong about me. Those who (as a rule) can't let go are the ones who are wrong.

user58

...what?

What... does that have to do with what I said?

rene

8:54 AM

@202324 maybe it is not the disruption as much as it is the surprise. And these days/weeks I'm not in for surprises so it is appreciated if you could keep that in mind.

Jeff Darwood

9:17 AM

> Those who (as a rule) can't let go are the ones who are wrong.
this is way tooooo farfetched

202324

You are right.

Jeff Darwood

guys? i've scrolled through the history and you're trashing more stuff then you write. aren't you worried that you'll turn it into a blackhole at some point and will suck in messages from other chats?

rene

Yeah, we go out with a bang.

Jeff Darwood

you sure of that? a blackhole is more like a un-bang or anti-bang

this is no fun here; nobody talking or are you exchanging thoughts wirelessly? wow, this'd be spooky

rene

9:39 AM

depends on your definition of fun.

Jeff Darwood

text flowing, ppl saying things other people don't like, stuff like that

Tinkeringbell

Oh, been there done that just scroll back the past two weeks.

user58

@JeffDarwood Pineapple is best in juice form and does not belong on pizza.

6

djsmiley2k - CoW

@Tinkeringbell s/weeks/hours

Tinkeringbell

@djsmiley2k-CoW Scrolling back a few hours won't keep Jeff occupied for the rest of the day :P

202324

9:42 AM

@user58 flagged as primarily opinion based

John Dvorak

Worse. It's offensive to Hawaii pizza eaters.

Jeff Darwood

@user58 not sure i'd find anything, it's all in the trash and even there things seem to be missing, you got more trashes?

oops, i guess i hit the wrong button, i meant to reply to the other reply but now i replyed to the reply i didn't want to reply, oh boy, i've lot the track

John Dvorak

Could it please be unstarred at least?

Jeff Darwood

@JohnDvorak sure, there is only one star and it's david hasselhof

John Dvorak

Serious request

Jeff Darwood

9:47 AM

@202324 when you flag something as opinion based then this flag is also opinion based so the flagging technically should be recursive :o

@JohnDvorak why would you want it? aren't stars good? it means ppl liked it, or not?

202324

@JeffDarwood that was a quick and easy joke, there are no qualified flags here in chat. I absolutely starred, of course.

@JeffDarwood also you're wrong.

Jeff Darwood

am i wrong? how so?

user310756

@JourneymanGeek I wanted to thank you and apologise to you for the other day. You stood your ground and that is not a bad thing. I was taking it too personally. But you (ROs) here are collectively in a difficult position and overall, you're doing a stand up job. With the chaos on meta, this room has turned into a well moderated place. So keep up the good work. CC other ROs.

202324

@JeffDarwood beco blaming opinion basing is not opinion based.

John Dvorak

I like pineapple pizza, and I'd appreciate if I didn't have to read the message for whatever time it takes to push it off the starboard

Jeff Darwood

9:52 AM

it takes 5

unread unread

user310756

@Tinkeringbell I'm not going to ping you after this. I want to apologise for blowing your head off in TL. You're also doing a great job of moderating meta. Since you've returned I've noticed a change on the site and kudos for standing up.

user310756

Take care all of you

Journeyman Geek

Ok

user310756

I realise I'm not best fit for MSE - to browse, but not try to take the whole thing on. There's a lot of people here doing just that.

Journeyman Geek

I am brainfarting here... what's the way to get an rss feed for a SE site?

Tinkeringbell

9:53 AM

@JourneymanGeek There should be a question on that somewhere on here...

user310756

anyway - I don't like leaving things with a bad taste, so came back to try and make amends

Journeyman Geek

I am hoping I can rubberduck this

user58

/feeds

Journeyman Geek

@YvetteColomb no offense taken.

user310756

@JourneymanGeek oh I was lippy and giving you stick :)

rene

9:54 AM

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user310756

you were calm :)

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek meta.stackexchange.com/questions/151519/… < List! :)

Journeyman Geek

cheers

Jeff Darwood

trashed!

Journeyman Geek

@YvetteColomb Well at least on the outside XD

John Dvorak

9:54 AM

... so much for dietary freedom, I guess

Jeff Darwood

i like it here, it's like a dumpster everything goes to trash

user310756

@JourneymanGeek hehe/ I realise a lot of us actually want the same thing. We just have different personalities and perspectives on it... creating more friction it not helpful hey

Journeyman Geek

@YvetteColomb yup - at least broadly

user310756

@JeffDarwood I wish it was that easy to clean up my house I tell you

user58

@JohnDvorak It's... a facetious joke about a well-known "contentious" topic inherently opinion-based, posted as a reply to "saying things others don't like". I can unstar it if necessary, I just think you might be reading too much into this.

202324

9:56 AM

@JeffDarwood there's no trashing in IRC. Consider it as an interesting alternative if trashing disturbs you.

Tinkeringbell

@JeffDarwood Why do I get the impression I'm talking to a few raccoons in a trench coat here?

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Jeff Darwood

@YvetteColomb i think when your trash has enough flags it goes away by itself

user310756

@JeffDarwood goes around sticking real life flags into real life mess

user58

FOR WE ARE YOUNG AND FREE

Jeff Darwood

@Tinkeringbell no idea, maybe you've heard them talking before

user310756

9:58 AM

the back of my car had so much loose hay in it, I had to drive into a paddock and empty it all out so we could brush the hay into the paddock for the horses to eat. The flag didn't help at all :\

user310756

@user58 speak for yourself, some of us are old and something

user58

hey, it's your anthem

user310756

ikr! :)

user310756

ok I gotta go. came in to say SOZ and to you too @user58

user58

\o

Jeff Darwood

10:00 AM

@202324 you mean like an alternative to stars? stars will be forgotten but trashed messages are archived so i consider it an award to be trashed, it's like the entire milky-way

\o

doesn't do anything

maybe it should try it louder

202324

@JeffDarwood never mind.

user58

!!/coffee

SmokeDetector

@user58 brews a cup of Americano for @user58

user58

note to self: don't stay up super late when I have to think the next day

Jeff Darwood

@user58 note taken

user58

10:04 AM

you're not me

unless something is really wrong

*squinty eyes*

Jeff Darwood

there are doctors who would say that talking to oneself could be considered as wrong

John Dvorak

@JeffDarwood some programmers do that all the time. They call it rubberducking.

user58

They already know I'm psychotic. I hang around here.

Jeff Darwood

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wow, i can remove a message before even typing it

Journeyman Geek

Hm.

Jeff Darwood

10:07 AM

@user58 should we cut you off?

Journeyman Geek

@YvetteColomb a leaf blower on the other hand...

user58

no, that would be painful

Jeff Darwood

i'd be careful

.mH

user58

We could hoist you on the flagpole and call it a day.

Jeff Darwood

oh, gone with the wind

i doubt it, you don't have my number how could you call me?

202324

10:10 AM

@user58 D:

user58

Sure I do, it's 630853.

Jeff Darwood

nah, this is just my IQ

user58

Irritation Quota?

Jeff Darwood

are we playing scrabble now?

user58

No, I prefer Banagrams.

Jeff Darwood

10:15 AM

but you've lost two letters, i think you can't play it anymore

i see you're in the star-alliance

user58

Of course. Terrans are the ones missing out by not joining.

202324

In Spain, alt right just promoted from 5th to 4th party (out of six)

user58

That'spainful to hear.

stop starring me i'm not bart

202324

But u r brilliant today.

user58

I get a dry sense of humor when I get cynical enough. Should probably drink more.

Jeff Darwood

10:18 AM

stars are vanishing

202324

@JeffDarwood not a chance.

Jeff Darwood

and what if i start you?

gone, wow

user58

Stars are short-lived. Better watch the Sun.

If that one's gone, you won't know for the next eight minutes. It could be gone already.

Jeff Darwood

the Sun is a star itself

user58

...yes, that's my point. My other point, at least. Not this point, which is at the end of a sharp stick.

John Dvorak

10:22 AM

I do wonder how the pineapple pizza joke came to be. It's false but not obviously so to the point it couldn't be mistaken for a genuine opinion. And I can't easily tell if people actually believe it when they repeat it.

user58

@JohnDvorak I don't personally like pineapple pizza, but my sister loves it. So... *shrugs*

202324

Oh dear... move on, that's a lost battle, there's nothing more for that stance beyond to consider it primarily opinion based.

Jeff Darwood

some points are pointless like you last point

user351483

That was a rather pointed comment...

user58

People put corn and tomatoes on their pizza here, for olive's sake. There's no telling what people's taste buds are like.

user351483

10:25 AM

pineapple is underrated.

John Dvorak

Hey, I like Vegetariana.

Jeff Darwood

@JohnDvorak you mean like eating them?

John Dvorak

Vegetarian pizza is among my favorites, after cranberries + camembert and pollo spinachi.

Jeff Darwood

is vegetariana the wife of a vegetarian?

John Dvorak

"vegetariana" is just italian for "vegetarian [pizza]"

Jeff Darwood

10:27 AM

oh, i was already afraid it was political

so why do you speak italian here?

202324

Around here eggplant in pizza is underrated but is favorite pizza vegetal for pizzamakers themselves.

user58

Oof, too late to edit my last message. I was going to link the "for olive's sake" to this.

John Dvorak

Naming the condiments in Italian is just how we name pizzas where I live. Is that not universal?

Journeyman Geek

@user58 Tink would complain about tomatos on pizza ;p

user351483

I normally complain about pizzas being too small.

202324

10:29 AM

@JohnDvorak margherita, prosciutto, funghi, pugliese, diavola, gamberetti... reading the local pizzamaker ad.

Journeyman Geek

@Snow oh god.

user58

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Journeyman Geek

So, I like my pizzas with lots of cheese

and tomato

and nothing else

and preferably the last pizza so its super overdone.

user58

lots of cheese, thick crust, green olives, and mushrooms

Journeyman Geek

mom gives me the first one, has lots of veggies so its actually healthy

user351483

10:30 AM

chilli-infused olive oil. Mmmmmm.

Journeyman Geek

and it took me months to talk her into letting me use the pizza steel

Magisch

I like the concept of pizza but haven't found a pizza chain that makes one I can eat

Journeyman Geek

@Snow oh man. Pizza oil. Its like one of my food holy grails

Jeff Darwood

oh, my pizza was trashed

202324

@user58 what's your pronouns? I wanted to say "she's in charge" before but had to yield.

Journeyman Geek

10:31 AM

used to be sooooo common

John Dvorak

A pizzeria near my location has this composition for vegetariana: tomatoes, mozarella, corn, spinacchi, garlic, cream

user58

@202324 I have "they/them" set as my pronouns in my chat profile.

John Dvorak

(and it pretty much isn't "too small" either)

user58

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Jeff Darwood

apparently it was

user58

10:32 AM

KEEP YOUR MIND OUT OF THE GUTTER. THERE ARE CREEPY CLOWNS THERE.

202324

@user58 too bad I had gone directly to the main profile.

Journeyman Geek

@JeffDarwood keep it sfw please

user58

...and no, we're literally talking about pizza

user194636

@Magisch a specific dietary requirement?

Journeyman Geek

pizza steels are literally a ... piece of metal sheet used to make pizzas browner

so I literally have a 1/8 inch sheet of steel for that

user351483

10:33 AM

I used a pizza stone, and never wash it,

Journeyman Geek

I ought to get a peel too

Magisch

@194636 Not because of that (there are pills to eat lactose even if you're intolerant), but because it doesn't taste good

Journeyman Geek

"never wash it" 0_0

Magisch

I had a really good pizza some time ago that tasted amazing but I haven't been back to berlin since so couldn't go back to the restaurant

John Dvorak

I thought most lactose intolerant people just deal with the bathroom time.

user351483

10:33 AM

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, let the oils seep in. It always gets too hot for bacteri to form.

Journeyman Geek

@Snow my mom would be horrified.

Magisch

@JohnDvorak There might be different intensities but hell no

That sounds hellish

a pizza stone is literally an oven. Anything that could grow on there gets cremated

John Dvorak

Well... there goes one more meme into the "extremely false" bin...

Magisch

The places here sell "american style" pizza that has cheese in the crust

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch also our oven is preeeety weak

Magisch

10:35 AM

I never understood that

thats a ton of extra calories without any extra flavor

user351483

@JourneymanGeek Cleaning a pizza stone - basically, wipe the crumbs off and wipe with damp cloth.

John Dvorak

Isn't American pizza just a large toast with extra condiments?

user58

@Magisch Your cheese must be flavorless then.

You've got to spice the cheesy crust. Lightly.

Magisch

plain pizza cheese tastes like almost nothing

the only cheese I find to be extremely worth eating is specialty soft cheese, like the one you would call stinky

user58

Like... basil. And oregano. Inside the cheesy crust.

Magisch

10:38 AM

but the good one is so expensive :(

John Dvorak

I've never seen cheese-crust pizza before, but they sell sausages with cheese in them, which I never liked.

Magisch

Paying 20 bucks for 100 grams of cheese just feels wrong

John Dvorak

I'm an Edam junkie. Quite cheap and full of calories.

Magisch

that is like the 80€ steak

it tastes great but not 80€ great

user58

Sounds like a high-stake piece of meat.

Magisch

10:48 AM

Well it does taste amazing

but so does the egg and bean omelette with rice I can make for two weeks for 40€ in ingredients

John Dvorak

My primary use of food is to make me not hungry, not to view it as an art piece.

Magisch

same

user58

"food" = "energy". "steak" = "enough protein that I need to go for a run afterwards"

(I don't watch what I eat or anything. I'm just very active, and if I eat a lot I feel a need to get out and balance it.)

John Dvorak

To clarify: Here, "edam" is just a uniform slab of flavored fat, sometimes sold in thin slices. None of the paraffin nonsense that other countries have to endure.

user58

11:03 AM

All this food talk is making me hungry.

user351483

@user58 We have a joint of beef cooking in the oven right now.

user58

@Snow If you cut it, is it still (a) joint?

user351483

After I cut it, it becomes lunch.

user351483

And my stomach becomes happy.

rene

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Jeff Darwood

11:11 AM

k, so you don't feel like talking about it - what would you like to talk about instead? i feel unwelcomed here

Zoe the transgirl

Ok.

Tinkeringbell

I believe people were talking about food perfectly fine until you started acting up. They can continue talking about food, they shouldn't have to switch.

Jeff Darwood

ok ok - didn't know switching is such a big deal in a public place

user58

@rene wouldn't know anything about food. He photosynthesizes.

user351483

Sometimes you just don't easily gel into a conversation online. Happens to all of us. Sometimes you just have to leave and let people get on with things.

user58

11:14 AM

@JeffDarwood You could try Switching. I hear video games are fun.

user351483

Happens to me sometimes when I don't feel I can really add anything to the conversation.

Jeff Darwood

maybe, but kicking ppl out is like super rude

rene

Not really

user58

Kicks are for when someone is being rude or disruptive. If you're getting kicked... consider that.

And, uh, keep your mind out of the gutter. Pennywise.

...or for when people aren't getting hints.

*hint hint*

rene

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user58

11:19 AM

*try e5*

...wait no, the bishop

user351483

It's kinda weird being a mod and not having mod powers in a chatroom.

Magisch

all we have here is the discount mod room owner thing

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Not entirely true...

Magisch

and a blue parrot

Tinkeringbell

RED

user58

11:26 AM

@Snow You're telling me...

user351483

Yeah, I was there for about a week. It really did feel odd not being a mod.

user351483

I expect you're the same now, With that little void of helplessness.

user58

It's a weird adjustment, but I think hanging around here makes it easier.

rene

Just watching how bad we are at it?

user351483

However, you still retain the same amount of respect as you always have done. And that's the really important thing here.

user58

11:28 AM

No, since I've never had mod powers here, so suddenly it's like everywhere is the Tavern

@Snow As in given or received? Given, I certainly try, but received is trickier... especially if you had a habit of hanging around places as the resident chat mod and information source.

user351483

I normally give respect. I don't ever expect to receive it, I hope that my actions would result in me being shown respect.

Jeff Darwood

notice to myself: ppl here play football better than me so be careful, they might kick you out

user58

Exactly.

@JeffDarwood I've never played (American) football and I'm terrible at soccer...

I'm bad at most sports involving round solid objects.

Jose Antonio Dura Olmos

Nobody is terrible at soccer. Unless your goal is winning.

user351483

Conkers. Now there's a sport involving solid round objects.

Jeff Darwood

11:35 AM

me not feeling safe right now -- ppl being not nice

user58

@JoseAntonioDuraOlmos It's my country's favorite sport, and I have a cousin my age who plays at a national championship level. :|

user351483

@JeffDarwood Roll with it or leave, that's the way that all internet chatrooms work.

user58

It'd be kind of nice to get through a normal conversation at some point this month.

2

If I have to head over to the Den for a normal conversation, something's very wrong. :P

rene

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user351483

@user58 You can talk to my dog if you like, he's a mod.

rene

11:40 AM

@user58 it is going well there ;)

Magisch

the secret mod-dog cabal of stack exchange

user58

Your dog is larger than I am, practically.

Magisch

there are many

user351483

2

user384163

@Snow daw

user58

11:41 AM

Hey I recognize that shirt

Which proves my earlier point

user351483

user58

1 min ago, by user58

Your dog is larger than I am, practically.

202324

@Snow epic!

user58

@Snow I found your traditional style mod profile picture.

user351483

On a crappy day, sometimes all you need is a dog to hug,

user351483

11:43 AM

@user58 I hear dogatars are trendy these days.

user384163

@Snow ~~On a crappy day,~~ sometimes all you need is a dog to hug,

user351483

Magisch

that dog is how I sort of imagine you @Snow

gruff and reserved but friendly

user351483

Yes, she's certainly gruff when she wants to be!

Magisch

I'm generally a fan of dogs and cats

user351483

11:51 AM

Dang avatar won't update.

user58

It's cached, can take up to like an hour unless a diamond refreshes your profile.

user351483

Yeah. I've forced it on my site. Weird how users can't force their own chat profiles to update.

user384163

There it is

Tinkeringbell

@user58 there :)

user58

Sounds like a feature-request.

user351483

11:55 AM

There I am! Woof!

user384163

ahh outside help

Magisch

heh

user351483

Well, sorta. I see the old avatar on my messages, but the new one next to the entry window. Oh hey, that'll sort out eventually.

Tinkeringbell

@Snow Probably need to refresh your page I think.

user351483

Ah. ctrl-refresh did it.

user58

12:07 PM

Feeling refreshed?

user351483

12:19 PM

Yes. And lunch was delicious too!

user58

to have a second coffee in the middle of the afternoon of a very busy day or not, that is the question

It's been an insane month for me all around.

(That's not me, to be clear.)

user384163

@user58 I'm usually on my second cup before my eyes finish opening all the way

user58

I rarely have coffee ever.

I usually down half a liter of water as soon as I wake up, though

but... today I needed the kick

user384163

I usually switch between coffee and redbull. depending on if I want a cool drink or hot

user58

I have never actually had a Red Bull, despite the background photos of both my phone and my laptop involving their logo.

(My phone background is a picture of Kate Courtney, and my laptop Rachel Atherton.)

user384163

12:32 PM

Ahh

202324

@user58 not a big deal of a drink, if I may.

user58

@202324 I'll wait to form an opinion until I've tried it.

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