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12:01 AM
@M.A.R. I'd put it on Meta.SE as it's also applicable to other sites
Posting on Meta.SO kind of shuts out users of other sites from reading it.
 
12:22 AM
Hmm, I don't get it. Link sharing is set to view, not even comment or edit now.
Either way, I have another saved draft, not really worried about Taverners playing a prank.
. . . Ugh, why did Google give me the edit link then . . .
Whatever.
 
@M.A.R. It allowed me to suggest edits (but I didn't)
A GH gist is better for this purpose, since it uses Markdown and allows others to make forks that can later be merged if approved
 
12:48 AM
@M.A.R. eh, we? Play pranks?
 
 
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2:20 AM
@410 Coincidentally, today is the 10th anniversary of his death.
 
 
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5:15 AM
The Atlantic Ocean is big.
 
The Pacific Ocean is also big.
 
5:39 AM
More ships have been lost in the Atlantic than in the Pacific
... and an entire shipment of tea
 
6:04 AM
Technically it was less lost than... brewed inappropriately
 
also, way too salty
 
I'm sure however, the boston pasta party went better
 
That, too, was seriously undercooked though.
I've heard there's some plans a-brewing to fix that though.
 
6:33 AM
I just realized I can retract comment flag(!). Or was it already possible long before?
 
Oh
Its newish
Not sure if its documented officially anywhere but I heard about it
 
I take this time to appreciate the work of SE devs!
 
@JourneymanGeek first things first ...
 
6:52 AM
@rene eh. swapping to a standard dialect of commonmark's a pretty major quality of life thing + would make things easier. Also, it would be a fairly major bit of development that is very visible , which isn't a bad thing
that said, I think there's no great reason to bring it up till the move to .net core happens
 
As both Jeff and balpha invested time in Common Mark I assume they both saw the value to have a standard to work from. Its planning and implementation went Jeff style, 6 to 8 weeks is all it takes ;)
 
@rene Both of whom are no longer here, and I suspect Jeff uses commonmark in discourse
Sometimes its easier to build from scratch than to change things that folks are used to, even if its better?
 
Now we have... 6-8 Markdown standards?
 
I guess it's alright for the name: SixToEightMarkdown
 
7:29 AM
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Suggest, or apply without any approval?
@Aibobot Oh no no no no I know you're very innocent
ಠ_ಠ
 
@MetaAndrewT. they did had a serious name clash over the standard so it could certainly have ended up with that name ...
 
 
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8:48 AM
Cleanup on aisle comments
Doggy get to work
 
aisle? like missile?
@MetaAndrewT. one month ago
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A: Make it possible to retract comment flags

Yaakov EllisHappy to announce that ability to retract a comment flag is now live network-wide. If you can flag a comment, then you can retract that flag. It works in a similar way to post flag retractions - click on the activated flag, and confirm in the resulting modal that you would like to retract the fl...

@MetaAndrewT. think it's all @Megan's doing. :)
(not personally, she tells the devs what to fix/add)
 
9:32 AM
@M.A.R. flag plz
I'll remote home and take a look
 
@Aibobot I already cleared them ;)
 
boo ;p
 
Hey, for once I'm faster than you. Let me enjoy that in peace! :D
 
9:56 AM
I just might do a bunch of comment flags on posts I'm gonna refer to later
 
Sure...
 
TInk's got the upperhand until I get home lol
+ I'd likely be playing bl3
though, this set up is a bit better than what I was doing before
 
@JourneymanGeek Hey, the flower has been quite busy today too ;)
 
Beautiful Lamppost 3?
Love that game.
 
borderlands 3 ;p
 
10:22 AM
@Tinkeringbell not a fair fight, you can fly.... :D
@JourneymanGeek played 1 and 2 with IRL friends years ago... we made kind of small LAN parties. (we were 3-5 friends each time)
 
@ShadowTheDragonWizard its a great game for co-op
 
We played Border Lands, Never Winter Nights, and some less known Indie games.
@JourneymanGeek totally
I was always the tank
 
Running forwards and kills anything that moves :D
(or usually being killed quickly ;))
 
I'm either that or the sniper
my current build is a bit of both
 
10:25 AM
Sniper is cool, yeah
 
@ShadowTheDragonWizard life regen stuff turns you into a bulletsponge ;p
 
My name was ZOAH for years :D
 
Right now I'm doing a scoped rifle/sniper rifle/handgun build
 
@JourneymanGeek wish I had that, lol
 
@ShadowTheDragonWizard I tend to build around that
also transfusion grenades
and longbow transfusion granades
for when you need to reach out ans suck the life out of someone ALLL the way over there
(its in all 3 games. I don't want to spoil the new guns/brand specials)
 
11:22 AM
@JourneymanGeek I never got along with grenades
Not only in BL
Not only in gaming
(i.e. in army too ;))
I just don't like something you throw with your hand and it goes boom :P
 
@ShadowTheDragonWizard ahh, but longbows teleport
So they are basically sniper grenades
so basically they teleport, track your enemies and restore life
 
Too complicated for a tank :D
 
Yeah I thought tanks only exist to be bashed by Hulk.
 
@M.A.R. or use Funky Bomb
 
11:37 AM
Max damage + bouncy walls + open ceiling + death's head. Accept no substitute.
 
@M.A.R. I've been through tank firing ranges by accident.
 
They can't touch you anyway
You're the master of firearm . . . works
 
@JohnDvorak death toll: 100%
@Mithrandir don't live near tank fire ranges then :D
 
Kinda hard to avoid in the Golan
 
Exactly
lol
I had dozens of training days there
 
11:45 AM
I prefer the tank ranges over the bustle of a large city, any day
 
@ShadowTheDragonWizard Sounds yummy
 
@M.A.R. how so?
Lots of corn and tuna fish
(from cans)
 
Well you say you had dozens
 
There are dozens of us! DOZENS!
 
11:47 AM
Alright, Taverners assemble
 
I need a couple of examples from people who were frustrated that if SE doesn't cover their opinionated questions, nowhere else will
 
Meaning in simple words? ^
 
And that we should be just one thing and good at it rather than several things and doing a mediocre job
I have used some search strings but to no avail, but it seems the right way to tackle "why u no accept question" questions problem . . . thing on meta is this
 
 
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12:57 PM
> I really hope you're not planning on doing this every Sunday!
Don't worry I can do this on other days as well.
 
Great :D
Thursdays work better for me :P
 
noted ...
 
What made you go raise that many comment flags anyways? Bored?
 
Sometimes, you just need to go out and unleash your rage on a bunch of comments....
 
@rene hmm?
@Tinkeringbell doesn't @rene have a script for flagging comments?
 
1:05 PM
I dunno...
 
1:15 PM
I'm done.
for today
See you on Thursday ;)
 
See ya! ;)
 
410
1:31 PM
@Olivia but stack overflow is a trillian dollar company like Apple, Microsoft, Google. They probably dont need ads to make revenue as its already high. — Pratik 21 secs ago
Confirmed: Trillian Astra is the new CEO.
 
410
A slim, darkish humanoid, with long waves of black hair, a full mouth, an odd little knob of a nose and ridiculously brown eye.
 
Doesn't really ring a bell... I guess I should brush up on my knowledge of CEOs
 
1:55 PM
@Tinkeringbell she's from H2G2
 
Doesn't ring a bell either.
 
By H2G2, do you mean HHGTTG?
 
2:18 PM
I think we should undelete this for the sake of our descendants :P
Ugh Data results with too many answers load forever
 
2:31 PM
@JohnDvorak yes
@Stormblessed uhm. Lets do that in 2101
Since I doubt I will be a mod then, kindly remind my replacement's replacement's replacements....
 
will do ...
 
Been a while going outside on the weekend for real...
@ShadowTheDragonWizard ah, good, kind of surprised when I clicked on my pending flag, now 1000% supercharged with showing the comment flag dialog again...
 
2:58 PM
Hi guys :D !//coffee
What would be in your opinion quantitatives of positive and negative reinforcements that could be measured on SEDE that affect users?
 
@Danilo command must be the only text
!!/coffee Dan
 
@ShadowTheDragonWizard brews a cup of Ristretto for @Dan
 
tnx , i need some coffee :D
!!/ Sha
 
!!/tea Dan and Dani
 
@ShadowTheDragonWizard brews a cup of earl grey tea for @Dan
 
!!/tea Sha :D
 
@Danilo brews a cup of chamomile tea for @Sha
 
Yay! Mutual tea!
 
owww... it worked even with the smiley :D
 
@MetaAndrewT. are y'all having the haze?
 
3:03 PM
@Danilo sure it just ignores whatever after the space.... ;)
 
ofcourse... what is the point in drinking if you are doing it alone?
 
@Danilo faster :D
During army we shared even the toilets though. :D
 
@JourneymanGeek not so, or already used to it...
 
@Journeyman haze as in dirty fog due to industry?
 
certainly not that hazy in Jakarta, though I probably can imagine hazy Singapore (I experienced that in 2013)
 
3:05 PM
@ShadowTheDragonWizard forest fires
 
The 2013 Southeast Asian haze was a haze crisis that affected several countries in Southeast Asia, including Brunei, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore and Southern Thailand, mainly during June and July 2013. The haze period was caused by large-scale burning in many parts of Sumatra and Borneo. Satellite imagery from NASA's Terra and Aqua satellites showed that the haze was mainly due to smoke from fires burning in Riau province, Indonesia.The 2013 Southeast Asian haze was notable for causing record high levels of pollution in Singapore and several parts of Malaysia. The 3-hour Pollution Standards...
 
@Sha sure, faster.. but less fun, and not enjoying the little moments in time. Honestly i don't think sharing a toilet is so bad.
 
@JourneymanGeek ouch... as in Brazil? :(
 
I took part in trying to fight forest fire once. It was small forest, and big fire.
Of course it failed.
 
3:07 PM
@ShadowTheDragonWizard as in Singapore's neighbor, Indonesia...
 
@MetaAndrewT. why forests got burned?
In Brazil it's due to government and money.
 
@JourneymanGeek i don't know what it is with humans and fires. Some wild fires capture most of southeast Asia, and that guy who decided to "go out" and set fire to some forest
 
@ShadowTheDragonWizard not that different I guess, to open new business, they need land, but there's only forest, so...
 
@ShadowTheDragonWizard big industrial farming
 
@Danilo never said it's bad! It surely helps to pass the time. :)
@MetaAndrewT. oh.... so it's money. Makes perfect sense.
Well here most fires in recent years are due to terror, so...
 
3:09 PM
@ShadowTheDragonWizard lemme put it this way
I walked my dog at half past 5 in the morning (He REALLY had ta go)...
and the moon looked like a cookie
 
eating @Journeyman's moon
 
or, you went outside and breathed, it smelled like burned charcoal
 
So you put breathing masks?
 
I only went with flu mask...
 
3:21 PM
Supposedly you can fold a bra in half to achieve the same result
 
@MetaAndrewT. found you!
:P
@JohnDvorak people looking at you in a weird way? Sure!
 
as a dust filter, I mean
 
@JohnDvorak I wouldn't recommend any lacy ones though.
 
Also better use a fresh clean bra.... :D
 
3:30 PM
It's still partial cover, isn't it? I should at least get advantage against poison damage rolls.
(and no constitution hit, because it doesn't restrict my breathing, unlike a full mask)
 
@ShadowTheDragonWizard in theory
folks don't usually have them when they need it
 
hence the bra.
 
oh, i see, brackets...
 
 
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6:38 PM
@410 Come to think of it, this may indeed be the appearance of the next CEO of Stack Overflow.
I imagine some board members preferring a SEA woman for the role.
 
What's the goal of this conversation?
 
Tuna fish.
 
I don't really like tuna :/
 
Always an appropriately adjusted conversational sub I mean dinner
@Tinkeringbell Don't blame you, has more salt than Dead sea
BUT
 
Hmmm. I had a hamburger for dinner. If we're talking fish though, I like smoked salmon best, then raw herring XD
 
6:49 PM
It helps alleviate one of my main drug's serious side effects
 
@M.A.R. Ah... yeah, perhaps if food actually did something like that, I might look upon it more fondly ;)
 
Don't look at me. If they put salmons in cans here, I would have floated towards fish like Tom and Jerry
 
Canned salmon? :/ Yuk.
I don't really like any canned fish, for that matter.
 
Better than the canned cardboard I'm having
I enjoy it since I was banned from even smelling fish for two years
 
Then go prepare some fresh cardboard next time, instead of eating the canned version?
@M.A.R. o.0
 
6:52 PM
Way ahead of you sorts high school books
 
Enjoy ;) I'll be back soon :)
 
Ta
Bit tired of the mega post for now
23k chars.
But it's roughly eighty percent done
 
Gentle Aggresive reminder of 30k char limits!!1!!!!!!111!oneone
 
Yeah I'm already aware of that
There's also gonna be some referencing inside the answer itself to make it look more coherent and interconnected
Really tedious work
> Pages 11
Words 3827
Characters 23352
Characters excluding spaces 19771
Kill me now
 
Meta Andrew T. kills M.A.R. around a bit with a large trout
 
7:06 PM
It's super effective
 
@MetaAndrewT. Ey! No killing each other in this chat, please :)
 
...at least make it more entertaining, if you do.
 
8:01 PM
@JourneymanGeek Out of curiosity, why bindingly review this as Leave Open? The other post now clarifies that it's all now licensed under 4.0.
 
 
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10:21 PM
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog not really just me though
 
Yeah, there was one other; it would only be "non-binding" if there were two others
 
2 others
Ok one other
And simply? I disagree with the closure on that case
That should be obvious
 
So, why do you disagree?
 
Did you feel it would be better served as an answer?
 
10:26 PM
Cause I think it's a useful question to have? And being a mod should not disqualify me from reviewing just because my vote is binding
Soooo practically? It looked like the correct option at the time I reviewed it
 
@JourneymanGeek Not saying that it's disqualifying. It's just that most of the time, mods tend to refrain from making a binding review unless two others have already reviewed the same way. I assumed you were also following that methodology, and I thought there was some other special reason why you chose not to go with it that time.
 
Uhm
So...
We have had this talk before
Spending 20 to 30 minutes explaining what's a 5 to 180 second decision is tiring
Its not a good use of my time
I'm not fedrico or even one of the other mods here
I make decisions off my own judgement.
Honestly it's one of those behaviors that makes chat less pleasant for others
Stop second guessing people please
 
When I ask such questions, I always think, "if someone did this to me, would I be OK with it?" And if the answer is "yes", I do it. But I always forget to consider the fact that my "OK" thresholds aren't necessarily the same as others'.
 
You always do
And the broader idea of 'people don't always want or need to explain every decision to you'
I see the question is on 4 closevotes? That's the system politely overruling my decision
So the binding review as you put it is less binding than you would think
 
10:46 PM
@JourneymanGeek Well, ideally it would be two Leave Open reviews while it stays in the queue, only to be dequeued on closure or one more person saying Leave Open
But that's true
I don't know, I just have my opinions. For instance, I believe that mods shouldn't treat their binding powers as if they were just normal votes and carefully consider if they really want to make a binding vote.
My initial question was prompted by my assuming you were following that, and choosing to make a binding review after consideration. So I asked you why you did, to see what the special reason was for opting to do that.
 
attempting to apply a blanket policy of How Things Work to everything does not
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog that's just your opinion man
And you literally mean that we shouldn't review then
 
Well, no. All I was saying was that it just boiled down to a difference in opinion in the end.
And then I was just explaining why I decided to ask.
Sorry if that came across as "you're wrong, I'm right". That was not my intention.
 
My behavior is simple. I have lots of stuff I need to do. I make the best decision I can make based off the information I have, trusting that the community will take up the slack if I'm wrong
So I can move on to the next thing
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Why do you feel this is spam or rude/abusive?
 
11:01 PM
@Makyen The link was completely unrelated to the subject of the question or what they were talking about.
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog I'll certainly grant that. Did there appear to be any association between the user and the linked site?
 
@Makyen Not apparently. (The account was just nuked so I can't check to see if it was in their bio.)
 
I thought it was spammy D:
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Not that I see (still have it open in a tab). I definitely agree that it's spammy. It was probably spam. I was mainly wondering if there were indications beyond just that it wasn't related to the question. Mostly, because it looks like a "I like your post. Check [this one] out" type of wording, but not something we're currently detecting.
 
@Makyen the beauty of it is... Its so generic
 
11:07 PM
@JourneymanGeek Yeah, that's a significant part of the problem. :-(
 
@Makyen and , well that's one thing old-school meat is good at ;p
Smokey isn't smart enough to get context - unless y'all blacklisted the domain, and that still needs someone to decide
 
@JourneymanGeek We can watch the domain, which makes a report if it's detected but is a backstop to true blacklisting
 
Or just flag it
Cause yanno
Humans are better at context
 
@JourneymanGeek Very true. Figuring out that some linked site/page has nothing to do with a question/answer is definitely non-trivial from a programming POV.
 
11:23 PM
Something I've always said is smokey is useful but human oversight is essential - kinda why I love having RSS feeds of flagged posts on my sites 😁
 
11:51 PM
Oh god
They put little TV's with ads on our lift landing
I can haz meatspace adblock?
 

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