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12:17 AM
> Heard today about a bootcamp teaching folks to install ad blockers as part of training to be a dev. Seems about right. twitter.com/kevinmontrose/status/1172248662094811136
It does. A necessary step before a programming-related search that might bring you to SO.
 
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12:43 AM
I prefer delectable things to electable ones.
 
1:00 AM
uhm
damn, I got so worked up over something I posted abooooout 5-6 angry tweets on my phone
And... my PC was on and in front of me
ooops
 
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1:45 AM
April 1, 2019 was the best thing that SO has ever done: trends.google.com/trends/…
Apparently Jeff tweeted something, and people are quitting Stack Overflow in protest.
As far as the internet is concerned, he's running it still.
 
Well SO hasn't had as obvious a public 'face man' since
@410 if it's what he most recently tweeted... That felt totally tone deaf
 
2:11 AM
I've worked with union folks, had friends who were union folks, and have a lot of union members in my family... The one thing everyone in that thread seems to be missing is: for a skilled trade / craft, a union is as much if not more about keeping people out as it is about the folks already in.
 
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I don't know if one can have one without the other.
One can sometimes overuse 'one' to make one's sentence an ugly one.
 
cue horrible Creed song
 
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With arms wide open // Under the sunlight // Welcome to this place // I'll show you everything
With arms wide open // Now everything has changed // I'll show you love // I'll show you everything
The new anthem of new Stack Overflow.
 
...oh fine
But, yeah... If there was an effective programmer's union, 3/4 the workforce would be apprentice or journeymen status, cussin' at all the gatekeeping being done to keep them from earning their master credentials.
 
@Shog9 I remember a conversation with coworkers (back when I was a full-time programmer) about whether we would support unionization. Back then the big selling point was that it would stave off outsourcing. (Not that any of us had any experience in a union, of course.)
 
2:18 AM
@JonEricson uh-huh
But... A previous employer broke a strike by... just building a new plant in another state, hiring an entirely new workforce and laying off a bunch of the folks back in their hometown. That was an expensive tactic, but it made future bargaining much easier for them... and weakened the union greatly.
Much cheaper to set up a programming shop.
 
@JonEricson eh
I'm outsourced
twice
it... sucks
 
Meanwhile, my cousin organized his machine shop, had the union negotiate health benefits and deunionized once they had what they wanted. (I never heard the end of that story since I haven't kept in touch with him.)
 
And some of the stuff I hear about online is... pretty much even worse than what I've seen out here
@Shog9 not all IT's programmers, and the support stuff's kinda where the 'worst' of it might be happening. No one really remembers the folks in support roles
Even then, a lot of coding probably happens 'sweatshop style'
 
yes, it does
 
@JourneymanGeek Ugh. I can't imagine. :-(
 
2:30 AM
@JonEricson and I can't snap my fingers and get a new job either
 
I kinda suspect folks might be able to pull off unionization in Silicon Valley, at least for a while. But... In shops where IT is just one small dept among many, and probably a cost center at that... In shops that already have extensive staff and experience dealing with unions in their other departments... I suspect the attempt would end quickly, with a big fat contract for IBM or Cognizant or some such.
 
I mean, I'm occationally a Jeff Fanboy, but here, he's kinda seeing things from (and ugh, I hate this word) a position of privilege
 
eh. Jeff's doing that "lazyweb" thing, where folks with lots of followers think they can ask a stupid question & get a smart answer.
...which, I suppose, is quite a privilege
 
Precisely ;p
I mean, everyone sees tech as this whole place with the streets paved with gold, where anyone with a keyboard and a dream can make it big.
But there's also sewers and trenches and folks out in the hidden places doing ... stuff
 
410
The privilege seems to bring a lot of bURn iN heLL mentions whenever straying from the party line.
I'd pass on that privilege.
 
2:38 AM
@410 eh, should there be a party line?
Or aggression?
 
410
The Twitter Party thinks so.
 
Thus far, the Twitter party seems roughly as misinformed as Jeff I'm afraid.
He should've asked on The Workplace...
 
So, there's this old indian folktale, of a king who once said "My kingdom is so rich, everyone has a lemon's volume of gold". The jester thought this was odd, and noticed the king had a snazzy new haircut... so he decided to get one himself.

The barber told the jester "This is a great kingdom - everyone has a lemons's volume of gold"
So.. shortly before the king's next haircut... the jester steals the gold
The next day, the king rages about crime....
The jester returns the gold... and well...
Our viewpoints are totally coloured by what we see and hear ;p
@Shog9 twitter's a great place for gossip and rants
Less so for informed viewpoints ;p
 
2:55 AM
Ugh, buggy morning...
 
 
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5:36 AM
@ShadowTheDragonWizard not getting paid for it. So.. no it's not a job
 
6:20 AM
@OptimusPrime too bad...
 
Could someone from the moderation/SE-staff team officially answer this question: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/332919/…? I am asking this because, we have had (recently in TEXSE) quite a bit of confusion surrounding this topic.
 
@Raaja the answer is correct, even though by ordinary user. The comment from staff confirms it:
@Andre Bounty votes are not included in the vote deletion when users are deleted. Even if all their other votes get deleted, bounties are always transferred to the Community user. If we see bounty abuse that should be reversed, we have to do that manually. — animuson ♦ Sep 2 at 14:56
Otherwise he would have said the answer is wrong.
 
Huhh ok thank you for the clarification.
 
So no need in another answer from staff just to say "the other answer is correct." :)
@Raaja cheers!
!!/coffee Raaja
 
@ShadowTheDragonWizard brews a cup of Cappuccino for @Raaja
 
6:30 AM
@ShadowTheDragonWizard Huhh nice, any chance for a espresso?
@ShadowTheDragonWizard thanks and see you in someother time
 
@Raaja just keep trying... ;)
!!/coffee Raaja
 
@ShadowTheDragonWizard brews a cup of Macchiato for @Raaja
@ShadowTheDragonWizard brews a cup of Ristretto for @Raaja
:7902367 brews a cup of Ristretto for @Raaja
 
buh
Well guess Espresso is out :(
 
!!/coffee Raaja
 
@Raaja brews a cup of Cappuccino for @Raaja
 
6:31 AM
You can omit name
!!/coffee
 
@ShadowTheDragonWizard brews a cup of Americano for @ShadowTheDragonWizard
 
@ShadowTheDragonWizard unfortunately
!!/coffee
 
@Raaja brews a cup of Americano for @Raaja
 
lol
!!/espresso for @Raaja
:(
 
too bad may be next time
 
7:19 AM
41 messages moved to Chimney
@Raaja also FYI - the mods here are 'regular' users
So unless we actually go "This is how we do things in MSE" nothing we say is official
especially outside MSE
 
Umm.. what happened to the MSE's post layout regarding "share edit flag"-line? It's under the line now..? :/
 
uhm?
ah
actually looks like its everywhere?
 
It... was under the tag, j u s t n o w...
 
7:40 AM
@MetaAndrewT. I don't like it.... PUT IT BACK!!!!
XD
 
@MetaAndrewT. that is a lot of whitespace ...
Or they created some room for new stuff?
 
@JourneymanGeek Thanks for the reply, but I do not understand the part "nothing we say is official", could you clarify?
 
@Raaja basically MSE mods are mods like anywhere else
 
Ok that part is clear
 
so if I go "MSE no longer welcomes cats" that shouldn't be taken as an official sanction of non cattery
 
7:43 AM
journeyman is like a janitor
while the janitor may whack you with the mop when you misbehave, they dont make the rules
 
So in your specific instance, an answer given by a moderator shouldn't be taken as an official, SE approved canonical answer
 
It is a janitor that needs to be walked regularly ...
 
@JourneymanGeek Thank you for the clear reply :)
 
@rene as opposed to the room janitor who needs to be watered regularly
(not me, i'm a succulent and require little water)
 
true that
 
7:52 AM
Ah. Now they're back to normal on IPS too. So I repeat: Buttons look back to normal, yay! :D
 
doing live testing on production is fun :D
 
@MetaAndrewT. Some days, I just wish I could. I spend about 1,5 days debugging something this week, which was caused by a coworker making changes to a certain database and accidentally not kept those within her session... and this is the development server. At least production is usually stable :P
 
You got an exclusive sneak peak at our upcoming feature -- whitespace. :) Sorry, about that y'all.
 
@Tinkeringbell
Who likes to do update and delete statements with wildcards on prod without transactions?
My coworker likes to live dangerously
 
@Magisch yep ;). I don't get to do anything on prod. Makes for nice and quiet weekends ;)
 
8:13 AM
@JourneymanGeek not you 😁
 
@Tinkeringbell look at you, all in a functional workplace with procedures and stuff
 
@Magisch Weeellll... I wouldn't call it functional. But there's certainly procedures ;)
 
it can be a dysfunctional workplace with procedures and stuff then :)
 
@ArtOfCode It is ;)
 
functional, as long as modifying production DB directly is allowed 😬
 
8:23 AM
But as long as the procedures mean I can have my weekends and vacations and not be disturbed... I think I can survive the rest of the dysfunctional ;)
@MetaAndrewT. Oh well, that's not too bad :P
 
hey @ArtOfCode
long time no see, how are you these days?
 
8:41 AM
@ShadowTheDragonWizard I'm a regular user 😁
Actually it's occasionally troublesome when one has an opinion
 
8:54 AM
@JourneymanGeek Yeah but that goes for every person with an opinion ;)
 
On second thoughts, could also be a procedural workplace
 
procedurally generated?
 
nah.... declarative workplace...
 
Might be
Do the NPCs have suspiciously similar lines?
 
(looks like my office's internet is becoming sluggish again...)
 
 
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10:30 AM
What kind of fool would ride a bike up a mountain, and then, once they've reached the top, ride it down and climb up the mountain again?
 
@Mithrandir Sisyphus?
 
Sisyphus wasn't doing it voluntarily, though.
 
You didn't say you were either ;)
 
...well, it was an assignment from my coach, since I wasn't competing at the competition that most of my team was at today (I'm not competing until...November?). It was "strongly recommended".
 
10:45 AM
@ArtOfCode so THAT'S WHY all the security complains they took an arrow to the knee ;p
 
 
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12:22 PM
at last, TGIF!@#$%^
 
lol
I just spent a good chunk of the day playing borderlands 3
 
performing queries like DROP DATABASE x on prod sends a shiver down my spine every time
even if I octuple checked
 
1:00 PM
Hello :D
I have going over SEDE queries, and i am wondering where i a can get some more info about what happens when user gets suspended? I've noticed that particular user has been frequent in downvotes and in flags on many question. Now with SEDE query i've seen that such user is down to 1 rep and under suspension. So i am wondering what happened?
 
Details of suspensions are kept private. That's the business of the user in question, the moderator team, and the Community team. It's not for regular users to worry too much about.
 
@Danilo a lot of that information is non public
generally speaking suspensions are a matter between the mods and staff and the suspendee. They're not usually discussed publicly beyond the banner, and nobody gives out information beyond that usually
 
I don't want to know why s/he is suspended. Nor i want to get into details to safeguard the privacy of such user. I just want to know how did SO know?
 
How did SO know... what?
 
So that user has been well on most closed flags on questions i've visited. And i am not still sure if mods are able or capable to track shear number of questions/answers that SO(company) has, so how did SO mod team know that that user needs an calm down period
 
1:07 PM
@Danilo If its something we can share, it is something we would
 
the user probably wasnt suspended for that
or the suspension reason is more complex
 
If its something obvious, its probably documented somewhere
 
@Danilo it can be as simple as aggresive & rude comments that are already cleaned-up by mods, and since only mods can see deleted comments, regular users won't have a clue unless they notice the comments before deletion
 
Ok. Thank you for clarification. Is there a part of SO FAQ where I can find more in depth public information what constitutes an suspension?
 
there's a whole host of systems and tooling to detect fraudulent voting too
secret, of course
 
1:13 PM
@Magisch of course, where there are public rules there are people who are smart enough to avoid them. :D It seems that it is an modus operandi of humanity. :D Awesome and troublesome in the same time. That is why i don't think i should know the exact reasoning behind suspension. But it still makes me curious.
 
@Danilo that's a natural reaction
but our goal isn't public shaming or punishment
its for the person to understand a behaviour is not ok, and give them space to consider their actions.
 
too many possible reasons, from a lighter one (1-day "calm down" suspension) to heavy/repeating offense (50+ years "go away" suspension)
 
suspensions are preventative and remedial, and the system is designed to air as little dirty laundry as possible
 
Well and sometimes to just reduce the damage they can do
Jeff Atwood on April 06, 2009

Are you familiar with the Penalty Box?

The penalty box (sometimes called the sin bin, bad box, or bin) is the area in ice hockey, rugby football and some other sports where a player sits to serve the time of a given penalty, for an offense not severe enough to merit outright expulsion from the contest. Teams are generally not allowed to replace players who have been sent to the penalty box.

It’s not something we looked forward to, but as of tonight, we’re instituting a penalty box on Stack Overflow. …

@Danilo ^
 
@MetaAndrewT. If i may ask , and if it is public information, what percentage of flags that users rise are processed by bots, and what percent is processed by moderators. Of course i shouldn't know which flagging option is direct line to the moderator, and this might be an untrustful theorist speaking from me, but it makes me calmer to know that at least some portion of flags go to the mods directly.
@MetaAndrewT. there is 50+ years suspension? Has anyone in history got that far? O.o

@JourneymanGeek thanks for the link, i will read it imediatly
 
1:17 PM
@Danilo all flags are seen by a human in some way
@Danilo uhm. I think there's a question on meta with someone suspended until 2118
well other than spam flags
in quantity they just get... handled
 
6 spam or abusive flags will automatically delete a post. Enough (it varies) comment flags will delete a comment. There are some regex patterns that will allow a single flag to delete a comment. NaA and VLQ flags can be handled through the review queue. Close flags can be handled through the close queue. All flags not handled by one of those methods are seen by moderators.
 
I don't even remember the number ;p
 
1 day doesn't really feel like a "calm down".
 
@JohnDvorak Well, its enough when someone is overenthusiastic rather than overwrought
 
getting into the non public information wrt. suspensions and voting fraud is possible but not advised
 
1:23 PM
We just need them to stop whatever it is they are doing to tell them to stop whatever it is they are doing
 
SEDE offers a lot of data and you can draw your own conclusions from it but that always has to be exercised with extreme caution
 
It means a lot that human is present. Bot can have scary connotation when regarding to community nuance differences. So one can say that moderators have somewhat expanded review que than maxed out privileged user?
 
@Danilo we have the very same UI with 2 differences
the flag queue/menu , and a little diamond icon
(which mostly reminds us there's something on meta... which is about as useful as a bike for a fish on MSE ;p)
 
small difference but strong one. And so far I have limitations of 20 review ques per day or 8-12 hours. Do mods have limitations on flag queue as well ?
The diamond reminds you that there is something on meta?
 
but you often find you use very little of the super specialist mod tools.
@Danilo no
 
1:26 PM
@JourneymanGeek so what does ? Flags are often from meta?
Or your modship is tied to sub community ?
 
@Danilo naw, means that there's a meta post to look at
 
@JourneymanGeek huh? The diamond reminds me every time there's a new question on per-site meta... probably too annoying and meaningless on MSE
 
@Danilo I'm a moderator on Super User and MSE
on super user there's a meta sub site
and a lot of what a moderator does is help users on meta.
@MetaAndrewT. precisely. It dosen't do anything much here ;p
@Danilo In fact I'd dare say I do more (site) work on meta and chat than I do on the mod queues on SU
 
I am confused here... "which mostly reminds us there's something on meta... which is about as useful as a bike for a fish on MSE ;p" so diamon is an tool not an icon ?
 
@Danilo MSE has no meta site ;p
 
1:30 PM
MSE is meta by itself , right ? Stack Exchange, and meta Stack Exchange.
 
Ah history
@Danilo The 'original' MSO was basically a response to people nagging the guy who sorta ran things that they should do stuff on the SE platform rather than on uservoice
Jeff hated the idea
and it worked well enough that we later had meta sites per community
but since MSO was the prototype, it has no meta site, and has things like reputation
Then it got renamed to MSE and a lot of posts were moved to a SO per site meta
 
Why did he hate it?
It bumped the direction of community away from his original goal?
 
In his own words ;p
(yes, that's jeff's own blog.. Not sure what's with that)
 
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@JourneymanGeek A reminder of the Golden Age, when blog links oneboxed reasonably.
 
@Danilo and the follow up ;p
 
1:39 PM
oww... an dadaistic tendencies. Nietzsche would be proud :)
 
@410 Why did your HTTP code increase by 6... :/
 
@Danilo reading back at that... its amusing how little stuff changes
 
410
> A 404 status code does not indicate whether the resource is temporarily or permanently missing. But if a resource is permanently removed, a 410 (Gone) should be used instead of a 404 status. developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Status/404
 
and yet you're here O_O
 
410
As a ghost.
 
1:41 PM
@Danilo also ... SE's history tends to be scattered through a lot of places
 
Nobody knows you're a ghost on the Internet...
 
410
Exactly. Patrick Swayze's ghost couldn't be seen or heard under normal circumstances, but was able to type on a keyboard just fine.
 
@JourneymanGeek interesting observation. But after reading Jeffs blog, i couldn't see that the limits are behavioural patterns. I am personally not fan of thing because of thing context (Art because of Art, Meta because of Meta). But i see it as a way people desiring to be part of community, but community has no place for them, so perhaps going ad nauseam is way for people to feel included.
 
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As an aside, that year is not 2092. The suspension actually ends on Mar 18, 2292. We just don't show a tooltip on suspensions like normal because, well, we never expected to issue a suspension that long where it mattered. — animuson ♦ Dec 7 '18 at 18:54
So the user's ghost is suspended as well.
2
 
But i find that isn't possible for community that is present today. Each community these days are built with an strict limitations - as company owns the community , and if you wish to govern community in some direction you must become part of the company. Reminds me of Kings/Queens scenario of dark ages.
 
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1:54 PM
^ "governing" a "community"
 
that comic is hilarious but it isn't something i would call "governing", but to be honest last message went meta deep into meta. Like deadpool... but worse
 
2:35 PM
@Danilo Actually a lot of the problem is the other way around
the communities kinda have been running on their own, and sometimes, well, folks feel left out
and SE does need folks to sometimes nudge them in the right direction
Just that it sometimes tends to outright hostility
And well
SE's still a small company
so there's still a reasonable hope of trying to influence folks
(which is kinda why I'm here ;p)
 
2:54 PM
@JourneymanGeek, and moderation is big part of the community, it just seems to me that natural progression of involvement sometimes overreaches mod role. Many people would like to contribute to the SO in form of code, action vote, marketing ideas and etc... that currently isn't possible, as i understand it even mods can't mess around with SO code and make an direct impact to the community.
 
...right. SO is closed source, for the most part. They're not going to open up the codebase for people to contribute that aren't being paid to do that.
 
^
And it's always been that way
 
There does still have to be a line between "unpaid volunteer" and "paid employee" somewhere.
 
And I don't need to mess around with code to make an impact. Actually neither do a lot of employees of SE
 
Yeah, especially since I don't code :P
 
3:01 PM
Completely understandable, but people who have the need to contribute in that manner (return to the community all that they have learned over time) since they don't have outlet, seem to go to the meta, and complain (suggest) and get massive downvotes.
Therefore , meta inception and endless recursion of dadaistic principles.
 
Downvotes on meta?!
 
@Danilo uhm. I'd say a lot of it is not getting the Dynamics of meta
That's to say - they are not familiar with the culture and history of meta and the network
 
I can't imagine if anyone is allow to contribute to the SO's source code. Probably they will fight with each other on deciding which feature should/shan't be implemented...
 
Lol yup
 
(I mean, it's already happening on meta-level...)
 
3:08 PM
@ShadowTheDragonWizard are you flabbergasted, confused or did i mention something that isn't correct? I would need some context to your message. Journeyman ... yeaaah, you are completely correct there. I had such mistake, since I am not familiar with blogs and such, i thought of meta as community region for each sub community.
Place where we can help navigate better change to the place we reside... but after several blogs, questions and heated discussions in comment sections i've learned the as you put it Dynamics of meta.
@MetaAndrewT. yeah...it would be blood bath... it would be an end of SO/SE
 
Sarcasm is "a sharp, bitter, or cutting expression or remark; a bitter gibe or taunt". Sarcasm may employ ambivalence, although sarcasm is not necessarily ironic. Most noticeable in spoken word, sarcasm is mainly distinguished by the inflection with which it is spoken and is largely context-dependent. == Origin of the term == The word comes from the Greek σαρκασμός (sarkasmós) which is taken from σαρκάζειν (sarkázein) meaning "to tear flesh, bite the lip in rage, sneer".It is first recorded in English in 1579, in an annotation to The Shepheardes Calender by Edmund Spenser: Tom piper, an ironicall...
 
I just know that people who got something for free (as knowledge) would like to pay back in some manner, and current communities don't have such mechanisms. It is kinda nice if you ask me
 
no idea what "flabbergasted" means though, sorry.
@MetaAndrewT. commit wars!
 
@ShadowTheDragonWizard no problem. This is the first time we are communicating so I wasn't expecting it. That is all :D flabbergasted = "blown away" or "shocked"
 
I'm usually shocked, yes
 
3:14 PM
Well don't play with electricity then :P jk
 
hmm... most people just run away to never come back when downvoted on meta. I'm glad you chose to come here and talk about it instead, @Dan
And how come there's only one @Dan here?!?! It's such a common name after all..... :D
One last thing for now, you prefer @Dan or @Dani? :)
I can be @Sha, @Shad or @Shadow
 
How about @sHaDowtHeDra?
 
@ShadowTheDragonWizard well as mentioned before I am one of those peoples who wish to contribute. :D SO/SE did help me a lot! I don't tend to be angered easily , unless I feel butthurt and misunderstood. But one must work on relationship for it to work. :D
 
@Mithrandir just looks weird ;)
 
'tis the point.
 
3:17 PM
@Danilo I see, nice!
 
@ShadowTheDragonWizard Danilo is common name? Really ? I know it is hebrew but I haven't came across it too often. I don't mind how you call me as long as we both know about who we are talking about. If you are accustomed with Hebrew names written in Slavic form, Danilo is ok, but if it is to hard, Dan is ok. Dani or Danny is ok also. Whichever you fancy.
 
Well no downvotes here, so feel free to stick around and become part of the Tavern core members... we got enough coffee and tea for everyone.
 
☕️
 
*hissing* DON'T TAKE MY WARM DRINKS
 
@Danilo no, Dan is... and since it also pings you, I prefer it over the full long name. :D
 
3:20 PM
@Sha I will have coffee but tea ... giving current context on youtube... i would like to skip it if possible.
Sure, Dan :D I can live with that
 
@Danilo Tea? YouTube?! TLDR?
!!/coffee Dan
 
@ShadowTheDragonWizard brews a cup of Americano for @Dan
 
do we want to know, as avid tea drinkers, :p
 
I won't care, nothing will make me stop drinking tea. ;)
 
@Mithrandir don't worry i bring my own bear. Tea as gossip in aggressive terms. Youtube community is all about that tea spills.
 
3:21 PM
!!/downvote
 
@MetaAndrewT. No such command 'downvote'.
 
Oh, the tea stain meme
 
@Dan also Danilo isn't Hebrew as far as I can tell. Daniel is.
Danilo is likely some form of that used in USA.
 
@ShadowTheDragonWizard Yeah, I don't recognize it either.
 
Both are, they are same name but in different lanuage group.
Daniel, Danilo, Damien ... all same
well similar
I would need an Israeli guy here to write it in native hebrew and reconstruct it from there.
 
3:22 PM
@Danilo Really? Good to know... :)
@Danilo you have two
 
@Danilo Sha and I are both Israeli :P
 
@Mith and myself are both from Israel
 
Then that is hebrew writing of "God is my judge" ?
 
@Danilo nope
דנילו means, in direct translation, "Dani for him"
So no idea how they got to it but... I'm not Hebrew expert myself.
I just use it, learned it from home, school, etc, but never learned it really deeply.
 
Dani for him ? What is "Dani"? In my language it means "days"... Dunno language histories are weird.
 
3:26 PM
@Danilo Dani in Hebrew has no direct meaning, it's just a short form of Daniel who was one of the prophets in the Bible.
 
I've found this : ` דָּנִיֵּאל (Daniyyel)` meaning "God is my judge",
 
דנילו can be two words: דני לו, where "דני" is "Dani" or "Danny" and "לו" is "for him".
@Danilo that might be true
דניאל is the source.
 
I honestly don't know. I have a plaque with my name (often custom in my country) explaining what it is. But those plaques are bought in flea market - so anything can happen.
 
lol
So Danilo is your real name?
 
Yeah :D I tend not to use pseudonyms in online world.
 
3:30 PM
Only few here use their real name, kudos. You're in the club with @Bart, for one. ;)
You know Mr. Bart?
@Meta used to have his real name until a normal human made him play games.... :D
 
No i don't know Mr. Bart... but I have watched Simpsons :D So i like him already :D
 
lolz
Any relation between @Bart and the Simpsons is... just doesn't exist.... :D
But we all like him, since the olden days!
 
You might say that, but i don't know if he has slingshot somewhere in his apartment/house.
 
He got a Smiting Stick.
Unless @M.A.R. stole it.
 
People grow up :D Jokes aside...wait Smiting Stick ?I don't want to meet him now... i don't want to get smited.
 
3:34 PM
@Danilo no worry it's padded
 
So it only smites you a little bit? O.o
I don't know if i should be even more scared, or relieved ?
What is this SmokeDetector ? o.O
 
@ShadowTheDragonWizard yup
 
🤖
 
was going through some questions from stone age and saw this
 
someone needs to delete that out of order comment
 
3:43 PM
@KevinB yup. They're constructive. Comments are not for constructive discussion
 
@Danilo depends... some people like to be smacked. ;)
@Danilo it detects smoke
;)
Or more accurate, it detect fires that cause smoke... i.e. spam. ;)
 
Who am I to judge what turns other people on :D If it seems pleasant I even might try it, but I would like to see it applied on someone else before i try it on. Ow... spam :D Ok i get it now :D thnx
 
@Danilo just Google it
hmm
 
@Sha yeah, google doesn't help. Images don't account to the room atmosphere. I need to feel pleasure in the air :D
 
@Danilo so come to Den ;)
Though not now, it's empty ATM
in 6-8 days it might be better.
@Danilo well yes, it's open source bot that detects spam across all Stack Exchange sites and post in chat potential spam posts, so that people can flag it.
!!/help
 
3:59 PM
@ShadowTheDragonWizard I'm SmokeDetector a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network and posts alerts to chat. A command list is available here.
 
Read if you want ^
The bot here is just a "sub instance", the main instance is in Stack Overflow chat.
Going to spend some time with the kids before shower/bath, cya!
 
!!/lick
 
@Danilo licks ice cream cone
 
See ya :D
!!/location
 
4:02 PM
@Danilo teward/Supergate
 
Just a taste from Den before I go...
in Shadow's Den, 21 secs ago, by FOX 9000
@ShadowTheDragonWizard ice cone* *licks cream
;)
 
:D :)
 
4:22 PM
@JourneymanGeek Not many people can. I've worked (for a while) with people who jump from one job to another. I kinda get the impression they plan ahead and start looking for the next thing well before they are fed up with their current gig. Finding a job is way easier when you already have one.
 
Im leaving guys, gotta work some ...not procrastinate :D But i will listen for notifications
 
4:47 PM
@Danilo Never ever say that out loud in a room like this :P Ploink!
 
Why not?
 
I had hoped for a little bit more support there :)
 
From me? That would be beyond expectation ,right?
 
Well, sometimes people surprise me...
 
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