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Shadow Wizard

15:00

@JourneymanGeek yeah, but that would really mean losing touch with many people you have to keep in touch with.

Telegram is a nice alternative, but most people won't switch to it.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard I mostly use it for work and extended family

user310756

@ShadowWizard when your kids are older you'll reconsider. I guarantee you'll be on whatever platform they're using at the time ;)

Journeyman Geek

Mom can keep me apprised of the latter

Bookends

@ShadowWizard I'm using FB only for 1-click (not really) registration/login...

Shadow Wizard

@YvetteColomb kids aren't the problem... all the rest of family is, and work.

@Bookends why not Google then?

Bookends

15:01

@ShadowWizard if only that app/site provides Google login... >_>

user310756

@ShadowWizard teenagers need to be observed closely, much like a David Attenborough film. Observe and try not to interfere. They need to learn

Shadow Wizard

@Journeyman you might know... SSL bought from GeoTrust today will work fine in Chrome? /cc @Book

@Bookends site that got FB login and no Google?? Weird.

@YvetteColomb well, easy enough to just go over their phone. Their safety is more important than their privacy.

Bookends

@ShadowWizard because they know they can share everything on FB, but not ~~Google+~~

Shadow Wizard

@Bookends hmm

user310756

@ShadowWizard you can't do that with teenagers. They get to a point where they are allowed to have privacy

Bookends

15:04

Let's just get back to Microsoft Messenger...

Shadow Wizard

@YvetteColomb well... not there yet, so can't really know, but letting them roam free in whatsapp just sounds very bad.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard err... If I understand correctly yes

@Bookends I miss the short summer of jabber

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek oh, good. Because according to this it's not.

Journeyman Geek

When everything supported it

user310756

@ShadowWizard ask me when you get there.

Shadow Wizard

15:05

> Google’s Chrome browser has already started the process of ending support for Symantec SSL/TLS certificates. This includes companies owned by Symantec including Thawte, Verisign, Equifax, GeoTrust and RapidSSL

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard older certs are revoked

Derpy

@Magisch yay!

Shadow Wizard

So "end of support" sounds.... final.

As in "Chrome will never trust those"

Derpy

Journeyman Geek

> If you are running a Symantec certificate issued before June 1, 2016, and you do not replace that certificate,

If you have a new cert it's good

Shadow Wizard

15:06

@JourneymanGeek we had one issued in 2017 and it got blocked.

Journeyman Geek

Hm

Bookends

Hm

Shadow Wizard

mH

@YvetteColomb will do! :)

Journeyman Geek

Everything I see says newer certs should work

user310756

@ShadowWizard going back to bed. Night

Shadow Wizard

15:09

@YvetteColomb night! Sleep tight! :D

user310756

:)

Derpy

Maybe I should start asking if anyone here need a seer. All the recent events made me nostalgic, maybe it would be nice to take part in this remake of the ancient bard tales

Bookends

The Cycle of 6-8: Session 1

Derpy

oh, wait.

That won't help much.

try starting from when Shadow asked "What is "uo"? "

anyway.... have been wondering.

where did forest end up?

gone missing like the cat, the eyesight correction device and the duck?

Asuna

15:30

@Derpy probaby outside

I can see the forest from my house. :p

Derpy

at least you didn't say something like "probably running"

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy hopefully not like Jason or CRABOLO

John Dvorak

Is this worth a mod-flag? meta.stackexchange.com/questions/324193/…

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy gump

@JohnDvorak why mod flag?

John Dvorak

admitted sockpuppet abuse

Asuna

15:34

Troll-ish, tilting towards abusive?

/shrug

or that

John Dvorak

Also that

Shadow Wizard

oh

Yeah, that account should be nuked with 5 different fires.

Asuna

Including the @ColdFire?

Shadow Wizard

so much damage

@Asuna sure

Cold Fire

lol

Shadow Wizard

15:35

Combine the powers of Den and Tavern!

hmm.. got an idea

Flagged one of their SO questions.

John Dvorak

Thanks

Shadow Wizard

← 1 message moved from Shadow's Den

John Dvorak

Any suitable for SOCVReview?

Shadow Wizard

huh? How come @Cold isn't pingable here? :(

John Dvorak

Scratch that, that would be user-targeting

Shadow Wizard

15:37

@ColdFire rofl

You are summoned to Tavern! :P

hehe it worked

Cold Fire

wtf

Shadow Wizard

3 mins ago, by Asuna

Including the @ColdFire?

I wanted her ping to be valid. :D

Now we have fire to deal with the troll. :D

John Dvorak

her?

Shadow Wizard

@JohnDvorak @Asuna

John Dvorak

I mean, how do we know the gender?

Cold Fire

15:39

damn trolllll

@ShadowWizard i can't see any messages

Shadow Wizard

@JohnDvorak by knowing someone via other means

Asuna

@JohnDvorak 'cuz of the title thingy on my SO profile?

Shadow Wizard

@Asuna oh lol that too probably ;)

Asuna

@ShadowWizard added it there because I don't use it for anything sensible anyways ^^"

Shadow Wizard

@ColdFire yeah well, you weren't pingable back then :(

Cold Fire

15:41

ok

Shadow Wizard

!!/coffee Cold

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizard brews a cup of Latte for @Cold

Shadow Wizard

!!/cold coffee

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizard No such command 'cold'.

Shadow Wizard

Smokey got stuff that neither @FOX nor @Kenny have.

John Dvorak

15:42

wife?

Shadow Wizard

@JohnDvorak perhaps! @Mithrandir might know. ;)

!!/martial-status

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizard No such command 'martial-status'.

John Dvorak

Metasmoke was literally made for Smokey. That's a privilege no human on Earth has.

Shadow Wizard

Site made for a single person?

Well...

There is a newspaper in Israel made only for one person, our PM.

John Dvorak

not sure mail boxes count as newsletters

Shadow Wizard

15:45

Sure they count

Bookends

At the very least, that OP self-deleted one of their questions

Derpy

@ShadowWizard now we only need to get her to change her username to Kukuri

Shadow Wizard

@Bookends heh. So the downvotes created a troll? Might be...

@Derpy well "kuku" in Hebrew is common slang for "insane", so...

;)

Bookends

Reading "Metasmoke" and "newspaper" made me imagining "Subscribe to Metasmoke newsletter!"

dunno what the content will be though...

Derpy

@ShadowWizard Did they rename Disney's Coco to Kuku there?

Also, judging by the title of the question, I would guess that meta-troll must have worked for the Adventure Time staff in the past.

Seems to be the same exact logic being applied there.

Bookends

15:54

Reply to the chat because I don't know too!

Shadow Wizard

lol

@Derpy same letters, different punctuation, I think. :)

Bookends

I did the OP a favor by custom-mod flagging it on SO... the OP no need to thank me...

Shadow Wizard

plz-delete shell script meta.stackexchange.com/questions/324188/… @Bart @rene @Glorfindel

rene

gone

Asuna

16:12

@ShadowWizard sudo rm 312188

Shadow Wizard

@Asuna huh? What's wrong with that answer?

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I really like this update. The tag description is easier to read and interact with, the layout is lighter, and makes Watched Tags more understandable in general. The only suggestion/doubt I got is regarding the "hot" tags being colored, while the others remain with black text. Specifically, th...

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Asuna

@ShadowWizard it's the question >.>

Shadow Wizard

@Asuna nope

312188 is the ID of the above answer ;)

Asuna

crap xd

Shadow Wizard

lol

Asuna

16:15

324, not 312 xd

Shadow Wizard

Interesting typo

You divided it by two

Derpy

@ShadowWizard Leonidas is pretty angry for your message.

Shadow Wizard

Yay! Only 10 NIS (about $3) for 25 bags of tea! :D

Private brand, such tea can cost triple from other companies.

Derpy

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy this Leonidas?

Derpy

16:21

@ShadowWizard that one. You just skipped taking 300 into account....

Shadow Wizard

hehe

Nice one. +1

status-not-a-tea

Looks more like a soup... ?

oh, it is tea

Matcha

Matcha (抹茶, Japanese pronunciation pronounced [mat.tɕa], English ) is finely ground powder of specially grown and processed green tea leaves. It is special in two aspects of farming and processing: the green tea plants for matcha are shade-grown for about three weeks before harvest and the stems and veins are removed in processing. During shaded growth, the plant Camellia sinensis produces more theanine and caffeine. The powdered form of matcha is consumed differently from tea leaves or tea bags, and is suspended in a liquid, typically water or milk. The traditional Japanese tea ceremony centers...

!!/add-to-tea-list Matcha_Tea

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizard No such command 'add-to-tea-list'.

Shadow Wizard

too bad!

Derpy

!!/tea

SmokeDetector

@Derpy brews a cup of passionfruit tea for @Derpy

Shadow Wizard

16:26

Good name, bad fruit.

:D

Derpy

Feb 13 '18 at 14:07, by SmokeDetector

@Derpy brews a cup of green tea for @Derpy

as close as you get for now

Shadow Wizard

Well the one I linked before is Jasmine tea.

Oh Smokey got it lol

Nov 9 '18 at 14:56, by SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizard brews a cup of jasmine tea for @ɪʙᴜɢ

Long time since it was used but still... it's there in the locker.

Derpy

@ShadowWizard doesn't the text on the cup say "GreenTea"?

is that the brand name?

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy whoa, nice! Yes it says "Green Jasmine Tea"

So it's kind of a mix, yes

The brand name is above, with purple background: "שופרסל"

It's our biggest supermarket.

They have tons of private brands by now.

Taking something popular, and copy it by finding a different producer to produce it for them.

Derpy

@ShadowWizard "Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery"

and in the meantime I now realize that Luna -> Rouge -> Asuna.

Shadow Wizard

16:48

14 answers lol

13, one isn't real answer.

Amazing how it's not deleted yet, surely some already flagged it.

Bookends

17:04

Re: that MSE post -> OP's SO account gone... 🙄

Mithrandir

@ShadowWizard ^ from today

Tinkeringbell

I'm sorry, I saw it too. Pretty!

rene

Nice!

Mithrandir

Unfortunately, this view came with a thousand eight graders

Kevin B

"unfortunately"

i mean, fortunate for those that didn't have to deal with said thousand eight graders today

Tinkeringbell

17:18

I'm not seeing any, so it's a good shot!

Mithrandir

I got lucky, there weren't any on that patch when I got there :D

@KevinB They literally picked up one of tables along the way that was set up for a station, walked off with it, broke it, and left it at one point. >.<

Bookends

The thousand eight graders were successfully cleaned up by PhotoShop...

Mithrandir

Photoshop went nowhere near that photo...

user310756

17:46

@Makoto it's being hammered. I undeleted it, as I got a few pings about it. But I think it's going to be one of those downvoted questions of mine

Kevin B

meh, i wouldn't worry about a few downvotes

user310756

it's not so much the downvotes, but the impending pile on that comes with them. Which is the very thing I hate about meta

user310756

but that's preemptive

user310756

18:04

Thomas Ward

@Shog9 was a global URL blacklist request on Meta.SE for URL links from a specific domain (LMDDGTFY) on the same basis as LMGTFY - the 'community' closed it, and I put a Contact Us request in for staff to evaluate it independently of the community

since it's in the contact us queue I'm sure it'll eventually be looked at.

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

@ThomasWard But a staff member did reopen your question and answer it.

Thomas Ward

@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog didn't see that yet :P

i'm just replying to Shog :P

who happens to have replied to the blacklist request :P

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

@ThomasWard Did you see the messages after the one you replied to?

Thomas Ward

@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog nope, but that's because SE history logs via phone/tablet are crud

slowly working on getting things back up here on a computer first :p

but it's handled now :p

Bookends

18:18

What would happen if Shog posted an answer on behalf Tim?

afk sleeping... ignore above question...

MEE is Johann Gambolputty ...

18:39

Hello everyone, I once thought about writing a network-wide-suspension faq and Sonic said that this is no good idea. Today I found this post. It seems quite good at explaining the different questions. Any suggestions/ideas about turning it into a faq?

Asuna

@YvetteColomb That. Is. Just. Perfect. xD

@MEEisJohannGambolputty... writing a network-wide suspension FAQ sounds like a good idea. Especially for users who try evading it

MEE is Johann Gambolputty ...

@Asuna Sorry, but I am just really not sure whether this response was sarcastic or not :)

Asuna

It's not sarcastic. But some users actually do try evading bans, and having a FAQ on it would at least cover the "why"-part and could make at least some users understand why. In theory anyways ^^"

Actual effectiveness is usually nowhere near the general idea though :/

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

@Asuna Shog said many Q-banned users don't bother to read the MSE FAQ

Asuna

And many new users don't read the FAQ or tour before posting

And multiple people ignore "DO NOT USE" in tag wikis during burnination

MEE is Johann Gambolputty ...

18:46

@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog And users don't read any "hints" at all (as Joel Spolsky and Jeff Atwood both wrote in their blogs). BTW I thought we were talking about network-wide suspensions, but ...

Asuna

The point is, a lot of users don't care about reading docs. But if it's available, there's no reason for them to say "But I didn't know", especially if it's linked somehow. You can show someone anything, but whether they actually read it and get something from it isn't something we can decide either

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

@MEEisJohannGambolputty... Looking back at my earlier messages, that's not what I meant; I just said I thought there wasn't much more to say than was already in the tag wiki and the question you linked. If you believe that there is indeed more to say about it, then go ahead and write it.

@Asuna You could say the same about the interstitial page

Asuna

I can say the same about anything that would help, even if it's on the page

I'm guessing a bunch of new users read the question guidelines like a ToS

MEE is Johann Gambolputty ...

@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog Yes I know that's what I meant, I am sorry for writing it not good enough. I will try to write a bit (outline) and then look whether it is worth posting.

Asuna

Either skip, or scroll through and press the "ok/agree"-button

MEE is Johann Gambolputty ...

18:49

... when in fact they are the ToA (Terms of (getting) answers)

Asuna

yeah

No matter what you do, some users do not read stuff

But when you have it documented, they also can't use the "how was I supposed to know?"-card

well, it can be used less if the links are used properly

That's why I started leaving comments when running cleanup on android-studio, because people don't read the edit summaries...

Generally, if it's not absolutely necessary to read and the person is in a hurry, nothing really matters aside the actual question

user310756

19:12

I hereby grant you the meta trophy for discussing meta in a meta post ;) — Andras Deak 1 hour ago

user310756

I've really gone over to the dark side

MEE is Johann Gambolputty ...

@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog I have: Why issued, by whom issued and why unsuspended on one site. Do you think there are any other things that might be important? They seem to cover the most important information.

rene

@YvetteColomb yes

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

@MEEisJohannGambolputty... I don't think that that's broad enough for an FAQ. The first two are already covered in the link you cited, and the third can be easily searched for on its own. My opinion is to edit in a section into the standard suspension FAQ. (Anyone else have a different opinion?)

MEE is Johann Gambolputty ...

@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog That might be an option, too.

user310756

19:21

@rene are you going to run for mod?

user310756

stackoverflow.com/election/11

2

rene

I'm going to run, not sure where I'm heading for

user310756

:D

MEE is Johann Gambolputty ...

Oh, Stack Overflow election, nice.

@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog okay, I added it to the faq. Please review it if you want. Also, shall I add something to the question?

user302202

20:44

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