The answer to the post I just linked to there was from a Canonical employee, and he didn't mention anything about there being a requirement.
And I've railed against that stupid bar often enough, and often in the presence of or directly at Canonical employees but was never told there was a requirement.
I've always understood that SE wanted it because it would drive traffic to AU and Canonical wanted it because it made them look as though they were offering a high quality Q&A site under their banner, giving a more seamless experience to their users. So, a win win as far as those two entities were concerned.
I have no particular opinion on this request, other than to note that we'd need a LOT more data to draw any conclusions from it; this is a pretty narrow funnel. But I wanna touch on an assumption that seems to be present in both your proposal here and in a few other comments I've seen today: the ...
Thinking of this as a problem of old users beating up on new is... A good story, but reality is much messier with fewer pure victims and a lot more occasional villains.
It's extremely likely that the problem with comments is inherent to the medium itself. That our comment system affords some level of rudeness, engenders frustration, promotes an unwelcoming attitude... Among many of the people using it, regardless of their role.
@Shog9 With revision histories, better flagging (giving moderators the ability to manually dismiss flags, and provide a reason for dismissing), potential comment ban for having too many comments deleted for being rude, etc.
I thought mods marking a flag as "helpful" without deleting the flag were using a hacky workaround, marking it and deleting it, and then manually undeleting it.
@Shog9 So then can you edit the FAQ? (I always suspected that there was a revision history of some sort, because the number of edits is shown publicly.)
If I can't edit my comment, if I can't fix a problem when it's pointed out... Then all this other stuff is meaningless.
"Look, you can clearly see in the revision history how rude Shog was when this comment was posted. And now here, where this large empty area clearly indicates how he kept being rude, persistently, willfully, even as dozens of comments piled up afterwards"
Now... I could imagine a system where we treated comments - the entire thread of comments - as a versioned document. Where deleting a comment created in effect a new revision. This would be useful.
By the way, the user in question was the one who last commented on it before deletion. Their comments were being discussed here, and a quick check revealed they were leaving rude comments on other sites too.
@Shog9 If I report the bad comments on one site, if that site happens to be one where they haven't left that many, they will just dismiss it as "too small a problem". If it's one where they've left more, they may be issued sanctions on that site, but then take their rudeness to some other site.
Now... you can stand up, go find a shovel, and dig away ruthlessly trying to extract that root, destroying your garden in the process... Or you can move on to the next weed.
On the other hand, if you consider their overall comments on all SE sites, you'll see they leave consistent rudeness everywhere, which IMO warrants a network-wide suspension.
I expect bringing them to work in a shared office might attract some unhappy gazes
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(Also, I recently learned how to make my own flour tortillas - it takes a bit of time, and I can't really get the knack of making them very large yet, but they're fun. Mind you I don't make tacos much, they're hard to scale to one person)
I rarely have time to cook at this point... maybe in a couple of weeks... but... still... day-old fish and microwaves are the workplace equivalent of nuclear warfare.
@MartinJames Delay them by 4.5 hours in Mumbai, then put them onto a very late connection that would arrive very late at night here at LAX. We called Cathay Pacific and they were willing to rebook them onto an earlier flight, but there were two problems.
@MartinJames First, their bags wouldn't make it onto the earlier connection. This wasn't very much of a problem as they're staying with us, and they'll deliver their bags here to San Diego. Second, and the bigger problem, the airline wasn't willing to page them and let them know that they've been rebooked. Thankfully they connected to the Wi-Fi there, and we could let them know.
I called Hong Kong airport's staff in the hope that they could get ahold of them, but they kept hanging up on me before I could say anything.
Let us pray this is accurate. That incompetent fraud doesn't deserve any support from us. The only valid answer to any question is "this project is an anti-intellectual farce and any money you have invested is doing harm", and "no, there is no good justification, they just decided to discard decades of prior work because of NIH egoism". — user1343002 hours ago
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@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Looks like this was deleted. Not sure why it was linked here, I'd've just flagged it, as that's my understanding as to normal process for these sorts of things.
Turns out I had EOS mixed up with one of the other acronymed token projects on the network, so as usual I was yelling at someone who had nothing to do with my actual concerns.
A hardware security module (HSM) is a physical computing device that safeguards and manages digital keys for strong authentication and provides cryptoprocessing. These modules traditionally come in the form of a plug-in card or an external device that attaches directly to a computer or network server.
== Design ==
HSMs may have features that provide tamper evidence such as visible signs of tampering or logging and alerting, or tamper resistance which makes tampering difficult without making the HSM inoperable, or tamper responsiveness such as deleting keys upon tamper detection. Each modu...
Cute little bit of drama earlier on MSO. User with a chip on his shoulder posts an answer which ends by complaining about being censored and suspended for a previous post giving feedback on the CoC (they weren't). Mods point out that he was never suspended. He responds by demanding that they suspend and pledging to "force them" to do so if they don't comply. They decide it's best to suspend him, and also delete his post making false claims about a previous suspension. Prophecy fulfilled.
Perhaps the most fundamental of them being the idea that comments that make some "feel unsure or annoyed" are inherently a problem! Anyone who tells me I'm wrong about something that I wasn't very sure about in the first place, regardless of their tone, is going to make me "feel unsure or annoyed". All the very best comments I've received, pointing out genuine mistakes I've made, are in that category.
But apparently them constituting 7.5% of comments on the site (based on the staff's labelings) is officially considered to be inherently unacceptable
@MarkAmery Wouldn't that be slightly dependant on context? I guess if I were reviewing comments for rudeness, 'feel unsure' actually means that I don't know if something is rude or not...
@MarkAmery I mean, the smiley face helps me interpret it that way too... a frowned look, a raised eyebrow... all seem to imply a 'I don't really know what to think of this' attitude.
But it's kinda conflicting with the 'I feel fine or neutral'.