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17:01

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, username similar to website in answer: How do I figure out the right size font / text for a given read distance? by nonstopsigns on graphicdesign.SE

Catija

@Jhoverit I appreciate that you don't agree with the blog post but it's Not Nice to imply that the staff who worked on it and posted it with the best of intentions are guilty of hate speech.

hey

@Catija sometimes internet filter is.... strange :/

like imgur.com is blocked as fun/meme (including SE's own, which I had to request to whitelist it)

so yeah, it can be for any reason why it's blocked on their office...

yagmoth555

@JourneymanGeek it's a good idea for nginx, and it seem popular, on sf a lot of question are asked about it too, I see the trend

Jhoverit

17:16

@Catija I joked about a faulty internet filter. Nothing more :)

hey

17:32

Either there's a caching problem with /question list, or my internet sux badly: a post I modified appeared on the "active" question list after 5 minutes

never mind... the next post came after only 38 seconds...

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: How can I demo a site to a client without using a public server? by jpl42 on webmasters.SE

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

@TelKitty that's... ridiculous? what kind of criteria "that people's don't want to read is"? I'm pretty sure if we account for everyone, there would be literally nothing left after we remove everyone's "don't want to read", yes?

Journeyman Geek

17:50

._.

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

... was it meanly phrased?

Journeyman Geek

I think she just wanted to get a reaction ;p

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

hmmm... I see!

Journeyman Geek

(also, man, so much drama this week)

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

yeah... I think the last time I remember such was Joel's post on meta

Journeyman Geek

17:55

I actually think this time is worse

And that's a perfect time to take a deep breath ;p

yagmoth555

I think like Tim Post, that it's a good thing people talk the issue, even if it bring drama

as it's a start to the right direction

Journeyman Geek

Well yes and no

We can and should disagree on things

bit sometimes it gets too heated.

yagmoth555

I agree, but my view is, in 2013, on meta SF we had the same drama about user too rude, it stayed under SF as a drama, but it got resolved as mod accept a lot less rudeness and the community too accept a lot less such. Now it hit SO, but the drama is bigger, as well, SO is bigger

Journeyman Geek

Oh, there was a lot of other fallout from that

and well

this is partially, but not completely about how we treat new users

Even implicit sexism.

When drama is internal, its not that bad

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

... communication is hard.

Journeyman Geek

18:01

we sort things out, and we actually talk to each other, well on the same shared ground

rene

I'm still struggling

Journeyman Geek

the big thing here, I suspect that, a lot of folks feel "outside" folks are ... well attacking us. And its kinda easier to hate folks trying to change things from outside.

yagmoth555

Yes, but now it's on SO

Journeyman Geek

PERSONALLY I think we've just gotta take the good lessons, and ignore the hate :)

rene

I was about to ignore the lessons and take the hate ... ;)

yagmoth555

18:03

Yes, as I remember old timer on SF that was rude, mod pinged them on the slack channel, and the problem resolved, now they even help with constructive remark, and the community follow

Journeyman Geek

And every time we go and say something that folks can point at and go "these people are terrible" we lose

yagmoth555

I just dont know how to bring that state of mind on SO, but breaking the buble was necessary I think

Journeyman Geek

@rene its ok. some people hate flowers

@yagmoth555 well SO has a tiny bit of a scaling problem

rene

Small banner ^ seen here

We have to admit that the creativity is awesome

hey

@rene I thought that's a small banner that was zoomed, I think I was wrong...

rene

18:12

it is kind of in your face ...

Jhoverit

@rene What brings that up?

hey

not yet implemented, just an idea

I'm actually having an idea to overhaul the tour page, but the changes are so many that it might be hard to vote (feature request too broad?)

rene

@Jhoverit asking a question does. The link might as well go to one of those sub-reddits where they criticize SE.

Jhoverit

@rene I tried it, no banner for me

Oh, then it won't ever happen that much is obvious

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

oh wow. just tried to comment on something on ips, is that "suggest improvement" instead of "add a comment" new?

tbh however, it did have an effect: I might really not make a pun about Canadians

Journeyman Geek

18:23

its an experiment

rene

@FélixGagnon-Grenier those are really bad ...

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

@rene the puns, the effect or the canadians?

rene

you pick one ...

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

hehehe

Journeyman Geek

Yes

@FélixGagnon-Grenier yes

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

18:25

:/

I'll pick the effect and make the pun \o/

hey

like:
1. modify the structure: introduction, Q&A system (**move "tagging" to here + introduce downvote**), on/off-topicness, **edit+comment**, **link to [how to ask](https://stackoverflow.com/help/how-to-ask) & [how to answer](https://stackoverflow.com/help/how-to-answer)**, reputation, badges, help center -- reasoning: new users are either looking for asking/answering, not about reputation or badges; bring the important part first.
2. add 2 new bronze badges: 1 badge for opening "how to ask" and another for "how to answer", both delayed by 30 seconds (arbitrary number, at least if they rea…

Andrew Myers

Any devs around? I just found something strange on this question: stackoverflow.com/q/50160513/5764553

Looks like a sub-50 rep user posted a comment

hey

@hey (yeah, formatting is broken when multiline >_<)

Taryn

@AndrewMyers it was mostly likely an auto-conversion of an answer to a comment

hey

@AndrewMyers autoconversion when posting an answer with a link to another SO question, if I'm not mistaken?

Taryn

18:32

80

A: Answer appears automatically converted as a comment

Trivial answers containing a link to another question in the network are automatically converted to comments on the question, with the message Trivial answer converted to comment Poking some folks about perhaps a wee bit more indication that that happens, looked like a bug to me at first t...

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

230

Q: Why do I need 50 reputation to comment? What can I do instead?

Users with less than 50 reputation points cannot write comments on questions and answers that they don't own. Why does this limit exist? But I want to contribute now. What should I do instead? But I can't write a good answer without more information! But I saw a new user posting a comment! How...

"But I saw a new user posting a comment! How did they do it?"

Andrew Myers

That's a really cool feature I never knew about

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Taryn Last time I checked, that can be prone to abuse, because users can post an answer that intentionally triggers the script, then edit the resulting comment.

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

... acquiring 50 rep sounds simpler

but eh, who can judge?

hey

Oh well, I guess I'll try posting my idea to overhaul the tour tomorrow...

rene

18:39

sd del

Undo

18:50

undo's minirant of the day: We've been deleting a bunch of blatantly unwelcoming comments from 2010ish... but not as many as I thought, considering we're a site with sixty-six million comments. Are there just not that many, or is this the tip of the iceberg?

3

People who are running SEDE and finding this crap, keep doing it please. People who are interested, start! :)

(SEDE is most useful on Sunday morning US time, FWIW. Nice fresh data)

John Dvorak

I would believe it's the former. SE is fighting windmills IMO.

Undo

@JohnDvorak Dredging these up has opened my mind to the possibility that there's more we're missing. Need more data.

by "unwelcoming" I mean comments like "wow you have big boobs". Objectively nasty stuff.

John Dvorak

I don't call those "unwelcoming", but "sexist". If those aren't rare, we do have a problem...

Andy

"Rare" is interesting though. There may not be a lot of them, but many that I've removed have more than a few upvotes and are on questions that have a lot of views. So, they've been seen by a lot of people.

Undo

"Rare" is relative, and somewhat subjective in something like this

^ That

Journeyman Geek

18:54

Why would there even be comments like that? 0_0

Undo

@JourneymanGeek Some cultures are different. And some people are jerks.

Andy

An excellent question, but there are and they've been around for half a decade or more in recent cases that are flagged.

Journeyman Geek

@Undo and avatars are small

Undo

@Andy You can have 66,000 of these and they're "only" 1% of the total... but I'd push for action on 1%. Or .1%. Or maybe .01%, but that's getting grey.

Andy

Yeah. I was going to compile a big list but I can only go back so far on moderator handled flags.

Undo

18:57

Hoping Tim Post is able to get some data out for everyone to see, and hopefully some less aggregated data out for mods to see

Anonymous

Another very fringe XSS in teams: team names aren't encoded in the duplicate search error response. (Suggestion: this should probably be plain text instead of HTML.)

user5389107

19:13

@JourneymanGeek It's worth noting that no matter how much we don't like it, it's still commonplace in many cultures that women are second class citizens and misogyny in these isn't seen as bad or even impolite - just as a matter of course

In some places they can't even drive or walk around outside without adhering to some sort of oppressive public dress code

And of course some people are just jerks - which there will always be some of

Anonymous

@user1114 Also exists in support search page:

Anonymous

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@user1114 Why did you blank your avatar?

Anonymous

I decline to answer.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

No problem.

Anonymous

19:16

👍

Journeyman Geek

@user5389107 I mean, there's pretty much no reason the comment should have been made

Shog9

@Andy gotta keep in mind too that most active devs aren't just seeing one question on SO... They'll often read several each day. So the chance that someone will eventually see one of these comments while casually browsing is a lot higher than their frequency might suggest.

Journeyman Geek

Let alone survive

user5389107

@Shog9 Or in my company's case: Stack overflow is 31% of all firewall traffic

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Won't I'LL SEE WHAT I CAN DO OKAY BUT THEY ARE LAWYERS AND WHEN YOU BECOME ONE THE GOVERNMENT TURNS ON YOUR CAPS LOCK KEY AND IT BECOMES LIKE A SOBRIETY TEST TO START YOUR CAR THEY CAN'T USE THEIR COMPUTER WITHOUT IT ON. — Tim Post ♦ 4 hours ago

user5389107

19:18

Which is impressive considering the site has an incredibly light data footprint

Taryn

@JohnDvorak and how is that not unwelcoming? If I was a new user who saw a comment on the site like that, I wouldn't want to participate.

Shog9

Now extrapolate that to comments that aren't blatantly inappropriate, and the chance that most folks will see comments that are off-putting becomes extremely high - even if those comments still aren't sitting on a majority of posts.

John Dvorak

I'm not saying it's not unwelcoming. I'm saying that calling it unwelcoming is an understatement.

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

How do we actually reconcile everyone's "unwelcoming" definition? Like, in the case where two unwelcoming are contrary?

user5389107

There is stuff like this too:

stackoverflow.com/questions/27064319/…

Journeyman Geek

19:20

@FélixGagnon-Grenier we apply common sense ;p

user5389107

Which isn't overtly hostile but even I bristle at it and I'm a guy so this is probably more then just unwelcome

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

if only common sense were common ;)

@user5389107 Already deleted?

Journeyman Geek

that is to say, comments really should be about the topic at hand.

Shog9

This is what I run into on a lot of other forums: a whole lot of people are treated well and have a good time, but if you're an outsider just searching for information you're gonna run into the ones that don't do well getting stomped on long before you ever sign up, because chances are you're searching for something that isn't there or isn't easy to find... Just like they were.

user5389107

I posted it earlier today

Journeyman Geek

19:21

And if they're blatently sexist, or mean, when we handle it appropriately as quickly as possibble

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

I mean like, how do we reconcile the unwelcoming front page of questions that show no effort with the unwelcoming comments that are made on these questions?

user5389107

@FélixGagnon-Grenier At least over the unwelcoming comments on these questions we have some influence

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

fair point.

user5389107

directing what non-users say on their first interaction is a lot harder then getting regulars to tone back the snark a bit

Journeyman Geek

@FélixGagnon-Grenier I used to post a bunch of comments that went "welcome to $site - in order for us to help us help you... <suggested fixes>

and its worth considering the river of sh** argument dosen't preclude common civility

user5389107

19:26

Do we count stuff like this under worth flagging:

@WayneWerner :find girlfrend && :set wildignore+=*ugly_ones* :D :+1: — itsnikolay Apr 24 at 7:23

It's an off color joke, so I was thinking nln

Mithrandir

the comment is certainly NLN

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

c'mon tavern, y u no bot

Mithrandir

No Longer Needed

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

thanks :)

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

Nuked

Mithrandir

19:27

SE abbreviation for that middle comment flag

user5389107

And then there's this:

ok.good job...I'm a girl. so can you set me up as the best answer?thank you very much. — abby Feb 9 at 9:18

not sure what to think about that

Mithrandir

when in doubt flag as NLN\

rene

And then we have haskell: stackoverflow.com/questions/8435266/…

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

~~lol~~ oh dang I did not see the link

Catija

@user5389107 Looks like the OP called her "bro" and she thinks that answers in comments are answers. stackoverflow.com/questions/48700583/…

user5389107

19:32

I see a certain flower is also experimenting with sql patterns on SEDE

@Catija sigh

Mithrandir

I was also playing around with data.SE

user5389107

I have a feeling I'll spend a lot more time on this then I anticipated

rene

@user5389107 I couldn't believe it would return results ...

Catija

Well, I'm sure that it will get a more immediate result than voting rings?

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

@Catija not sure how this warrants the "I'm a girl so apply preferential treatment" ? Or am I misunderstanding your point?

user5389107

19:34

I think it was a conjunction of correcting the "bro" addressing and something users regularly do

which is asking for accepts

rene

@FélixGagnon-Grenier yeah, got me as well...

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

@user5389107 ah yes, indeed

Catija

@FélixGagnon-Grenier I don't think there was a request for preferential treatment... I think it was just a "I solved your problem, accept the answer"?

user5389107

Some of these comment chains actually make me feel uncomfortable though

the patronizing attitude is definitely on display

Catija

I realized that the comments were on her answer, not on the question.

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

19:37

@Catija I might have missed the . just after girl.

I'm ok with brushing this as two different sentences, but I just wish as much benefit of the doubt would be given to everyone.

"I'm a girl. so can you set me up as the best answer?"

Catija

Dunno. I've told people that I'm female in comments before after they've referred to me with a male pronoun/term.

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

Of course! Sorry if I'm unclear. It's just that the word "so" here, makes a radically different meaning than "I'm a girl. Can you accept my answer?"

Catija

Again, interpretation, I put a comma after "So" making it more like an "um". I try to give the benefit of the doubt. Regardless, everything in the comments there about voting and accepting is unnecessary.

I might say. So... [pause] ... if this solved your problem, feel free to accept my answer. It can be a change of subject marker.

user5389107

eugh

@W.F. Cultural differences are also important! For exemple when you say "invite through the window" I imagine visiting a girl in here room before mariage! I am sure this is not what you meant! — Oliv Sep 17 '17 at 13:15

where are all of these hiding

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

@user5389107 can you elaborate?

user5389107

19:43

I'm really not sure that was necessary to extend a comment chain about irregular code into the creepy

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

I mean, I'm all for removing sexism, unwelcoming tone, and educating myself on what is unacceptable, but there is also a line after which it becomes "let's nuke every comment that features the word 'girl'".

user5389107

far from it

most of these are actually @mentions for people who have girl in their username

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

So, what is it that you find incorrect in that comment?

user5389107

In that case it looks like a sex joke. In a stack overflow comment thread about irregular code.

Andy

1.) Why is an analogy about meeting a girl in their room needed? 2.) The implication is what you do in that room...which is not needed here.

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

19:47

they are explaining that they did not understand the choice of words the other person used.

user5389107

They did that above in the comments before

This was purely a quip

And then there is "I like the way you're thinking ;)" as a follow up from another commenter

I don't know how to interpret that other then as a sex joke

Which is ... fine I guess but I wouldn't think it has a place on here. At best it's noise

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

I generally always use "they" when referring to people who haven't disclosed much about themselves

Anonymous

Can someone remind me of the moderator account details page URL? /account/ something

Catija

you mean the dashboard?

Anonymous

yeah, I think so

Anonymous

19:53

The one that has the account (not user) ID in the URL.

Anonymous

I am poking around what the mod tools look like for a channels admin.

user5389107

weirdly omnipresent bias against quiche eaters

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

you misspelt for ;)

user5389107

@BlagovestBuyukliev: I find that to be for quiche eaters and for girls. C and C++ are complex. Get used to it. But I see your point ;-) — Bathsheba Mar 29 '17 at 11:37

Someone doesn't like people who enjoy quiche

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

:(

Catija

19:57

@user1114 Oh... I don't actually know if I'm familiar with that page.

Shog9

because you don't have access to it

employee-only

Catija

Well, there you go.

Anonymous

oh

Anonymous

oops

Anonymous

that explains my lack of success guessing.

Shog9

19:58

it's the one with all the real dirt on it. Annotations on moderators, lists of users who've called us names in the past and are due for some revenge served cold, a recipe for quiche lorraine...

Pro tip: you can safely eat Quiche Lorraine even if you're not a woman named Lorraine

Anonymous

@Catija interpersonal.stackexchange.com/users/account-info/36 ?

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

\o/

user5389107

@Shog9 I'd like to see my annotations sometime, I'm sure I have a couple (not on that page) :P

Catija

@user1114 That's the dashboard, yeah.

Shog9

All these quiche-eater-haters never found out about the universal edibility test. They could've been enjoying quiche all along!

Catija

20:00

Y'all annotate us?

Anonymous

I just meant that in this case. It looks like that doesn't exist in Channels, even though most mod views do.

Anonymous

Which is probably good.

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

is there a wave of anonymization of accounts? is there a way to verify like, usernames that have changed from whatever to a variation of /user[0-9]+/ since two weeks ago?

Shog9

Pretty sure Ol' Slim has a script or something

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

wow, super secret employee's only dashboard on all users in the network? that sounds like some secret agent movie :D

Shog9

20:04

I may have embellished a bit

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

my curiosity might have just gone over 9000

Catija

It makes sense that they have a way to see all of the bad stuff you've done, rather than forcing themselves to go to each and every site account.

Shog9

@user1114 so, you're activities have not gone unnoticed by our intrepid ... whatever the hell its called that monitors requests

You mind dropping a note to the teams folks just letting 'em know what you're doing so they don't freak out?

user5389107

I expect a wave of users trying their luck with GDPR based disclosure requests to find out what annotations moderators and employees have placed on their accounts

Journeyman Geek

wait does GDPR even work that way?

Anonymous

20:05

@Shog9 Okay. Not much to report but I'll give the heads-up.

Shog9

much obliged

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

@Catija but I haven't done bad stuff!!!!

Catija

Yet...

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

:(

user5389107

@JourneymanGeek From my understanding yes. PII is every bit of information that can be directly related to a natural person (IP adresses count) and you can request all that a company has stored about you

Catija

20:06

I'm sure you've had something flagged at some point in the past.

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

oh, yeah, assuredly

I've certainly insulted people in the past, but I would think that was in an "this discusison is escalating badly" context

Catija

I have a couple of historical ... um... less than congenial interactions that I'm sure may have lead to flags... though, I don't think I've ever been mod messaged.

user5389107

Can you see mod messages you've recieved somewhere?

Shog9

your email

user5389107

I'm not sure if I have been but I'm curious now

Catija

20:07

Not on site. Only if you keep the email you got.

user5389107

ahh shucks

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

[the sound of everyone searching through all their 182764378098123674 emails]

ok that's a big integer, I might have exagerated

user5389107

I recently cleared my emails from my personal email account

s/recently/midlastyear

Anonymous

You can brute-force every possible message ID on the site to find yours. There aren't that many.

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

:o

user5389107

20:09

@user1114 And just see which load?

Anonymous

Yeah.

user5389107

In theory as a normal user only mine should load - I have a feeling on SO there are quite a few though

Anonymous

hmm... okay, yeah, maybe that's less practical than I thought for Stack Overflow.

Shog9

Stack Overflow might take a little bit. Probably a couple days at least.

yagmoth555

I guess my annotation would be 'would ban everyone, publicly, dont make him a mod', hehe

Anonymous

20:10

mine was nice and small but it was in ye olde dayes: https://stackoverflow.com/users/message/645

user5389107

I'm unconvinced SE wouldn't consider that abusive use of the website

I'm not aching to get IP banned

David Fullerton

@user1114 (sorry to parachute in) Just to confirm: you're just white-hatting here and intend to privately disclose any vulnerability you find?

Anonymous

@DavidFullerton sorry -- yes I was in the middle of writing an email

Anonymous

I mentioned some XSS stuff in the chat here, publicly because I didn't think they are actually exploitable in practice.

David Fullerton

okay, thanks

Anonymous

20:12

I'll include them in the email for reference.

Anonymous

Cheers.

yagmoth555

but I never get mod messaged, feel clean

David Fullerton

@user1114 Yeah, and we're not too worried about XSS that is a self-exploit in a Team. Obviously more concerned if you're trying or manage to jump between Teams. If you start working on that, we can help you set up Teams to test against so you're not poking at a real customer's data.

Catija

Apparently no one likes Tim's formatting... yesterday someone removed his footnote formatting and today someone removed the title casing. :(

Anonymous

@DavidFullerton To the extent that I was doing that, I was trying against charcoal and sobotics because they're semi-public.

David Fullerton

20:14

ok, perfect, thanks!

Mithrandir

yeah, Charcoal and SOBotics are... kinda trying to break stuff ;)

David Fullerton

and we appreciate it! you're definitely showing up in the logs with some stuff we need to take a look at...

user5389107

Yay for charcoal

I'm actually really happy charcoal gets to keep their team

Catija

YAY Teams! Go Team!

Anonymous

I wish my team could use Teams. :(

Catija

20:17

@DavidFullerton did y'all figure out an efficient way to deal with teams that don't have shared email domains?

Mithrandir

^probably relevant for mod Team

Catija

Shhhhh!

I was trying to be sneaky. Who knows if that's shareable...

Mithrandir

Tim said it wasn't a secret :P

Catija

Oh, I missed that.

I'm so excited, by the way... I've been begging for so long.

David Fullerton

@Catija not sure it's efficient, but we shipped with an invite-by-email-address option in addition to invite-by-email-domain.

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

20:19

@user1114 Not sure what warranted the anonymization, but I hope you're doing ok. I missed a chapter here it seems.

Catija

@DavidFullerton Ah. At least it's better than the hoops Charcoal went through. :P

Anonymous

@FélixGagnon-Grenier Thank you.

user5389107

I'm losing faith in humanity a bit:

If you were a some girl from my town, I would've had a lot of fun. :) 'You should pass NULL for the name of the event' - thanks ;) — The North Star Nov 25 '15 at 20:07

Mithrandir

@Catija hey, it led to the discovery of at least a couple bugs

Shog9

See, that's where you went wrong. Having faith in humanity.

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

20:22

:O

user5389107

@Ethaan brooo the girl in your profile pic is so cute :D — BoJack Horseman Oct 5 '15 at 12:42

Is this stack overflow or reddit?

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

this is internet

spartagif.mp4

... oh wait. I am having a terrible idea

rene

we all have

we just choose to not share them ...

Taryn

@user5389107 glad you're seeing just a small sample of what it's like

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

heh. brb getting a tissue @rene ;)

user5389107

20:26

@Taryn tbh I'm just running a SEDE query

Taryn

yeah I know

Just think though, that's out there not being handled and being seen by people.

user5389107

And what I notice is a curious case of overuse of suggestive smiley faces in @ replies to people with girl names

not sure if that's my imagination playing on me because of my current mindset but it feels faintly gross to even look at

Catija

Can you use ;) or ;-) in the SQL search?

rene

Did anyone else got logged out? Or is that just me?

John Dvorak

... are you suggesting that ;-) is rude when talking to a known female?

rene

20:28

@Catija yes

John Dvorak

@rene no repro

user5389107

LIKE '%;)%' would work no? else you can do it with LIKE '%' + CHAR(code) + '%'

Catija

@JohnDvorak Never. It can be quite suggestive when talking "between guys" as sort of a "wink wink, nudge nudge, youtube.com/watch?v=SrDFGa0juCM

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

the former should work, yes.

rene

@Catija data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/… ;)

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

20:31

hmmm... that's some interesting parameterization. custom sql things SO invented or usual sql-server flavor?

rene

sede specific

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

pretty cool.

... can it be injected?

rene

@FélixGagnon-Grenier see meta.stackexchange.com/a/297105/158100

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

thanks!

... but yeah, cleverer people than me probably already tried to hack sede.

rene

yep

SEDE is a bit easier because you have the source code

so you know potential routes that could be open

user5389107

20:38

Now that is some BS right here:

You are my hero...if you were a girl I would marry you...if you are a man, then I would set you up with a mail to order bride... — xxwatcherxx Nov 9 '14 at 10:03

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

You can post bizarre stuff not only when you're mad, but also when you're happy

user5389107

my current sifting through comments doesn't lend itself to happy surprises I'm afraid

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Then . . . Don't sift?

Surf through comments

user5389107

@Taryn I have to apologize for being dismissive yesterday :/

Catija

I wonder ... if the comments are bad, I know it's easier to post the link so that the comment shows up here... but maybe we should be posting non-revealing links so that the content of the comments isn't preserved permanently in chat?

Taryn

20:43

@user5389107 thanks, I appreciate that.

user5389107

I was under the impression that these rarely happened and if they did they'd get deleted quick

rene

@Catija yeah, don't make them one-box

SOCVR has a rule about that ...

Shog9

that... uh, author also has a particular taste in example images

Taryn

@user5389107 I definitely wish that were the case

Catija

You're not into inflated pleather?

user5389107

20:45

I'm really irritated at the actual rape jokes too

Like really really irritated

I'm not the joke police but cmon on SO that's really unnecessary

Catija

You can probably still at least comfort yourself by knowing we're still not as bad as Reddit... or at least 4Chan...

... yeah... that's not much of a bar.

John Dvorak

... or usersub

Anonymous

Very small comfort.

John Dvorak

Do we reach above Quora?

Catija

We will get better. It won't ever be perfect... but it will be better.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

20:47

embracing comfort

Catija

We have question bodies... we'll still be above Quora regardless.

user5389107

see crap like this even gets upvoted: stackoverflow.com/questions/22854982/…

Who even has this discussion in an answer

John Dvorak

The answer itself isn't really upworthy

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Upvothy

Now that sounds like a name from a corner of the world I haven't been to

Which is either of the corners

@user5389107 nice example of people not knowing how to behave in an SO professional context

RE DCZ's post about who justifies as a Newb/Newbie/Noob/Noobie/New user

user5389107

even found a couple on taryn's posts...

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

20:53

Why isn't everyone flagging those comments? I don't see them gone . . .

@user5389107 she will always be turquoise feet

user5389107

idk I'm down to 50 flags for today on just one keyword and I'm halfway through

so this is gonna be the long haul

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

BTW, sanity check: You weren't a regular here, right?

user5389107

I was

I'm Magisch

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Oh!

user5389107

Doh!

I'm very forgettable :D

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

20:56

Roh!

@user5389107 I wondered where Magisch went

I blame @bro for killing my curiosity

Taryn

@user5389107 yeah, I've had it happen a lot

user5389107

the overuse of smileys must become obnoxious with time

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Overuse? Haha, you should've seen snailboat

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