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3:00 PM
English isn't my first language
 
Still not the same, but the decoder shows the same for both
 
ircmaxell: vpn's between sites are handled by the ISP, pretty much everything else by our own people
 
@esaj Understood, no offense meant, just pointing it out. :)
 
interesting
 
One of our flagship-products is a network management tool, so were not exactly short on expertise in that side
 
3:01 PM
heh
 
@Moshe: np
 
Hey, @ChrisF
 
Afternoon
 
@ChrisF Well, morning here, but yea.
 
3:02 PM
@ChrisF - Seen the "minimalist" userscript?
 
lol
 
Yeah - I thought about a "g'day" but that's too Australian
 
@esaj looks intense.
 
@Moshe I've heard of it. I don't tend to run them though.
 
@ChrisF s'okay.
@ChrisF ok, feedback welcome. (Link is currently in top of the starred list, feel free to test/star. :-D)
 
3:03 PM
@Moshe: Personally I haven't had much to do with that product, my bachelor's thesis was the part doing the calculations & drawing of the network topology
 
Anyhow, bbiab.
@esaj cool
 
When it comes to stuff like SNMP, I know next to nothing about it =P
 
SNMP isn't too hard
 
bbiab
 
@ircmaxell: probably not, but the problem is usually time & motivation, so much to learn, so little time...
And the more you learn, the more you realize how little you know about things x)
 
3:06 PM
hehehe
not everyone needs to know everything. In fact it's better that way
 
Yeah, I'm trying to specialize on Spring & JPA for now, but I still feel like I've only scraped the surface
Although in total I've been working with Spring for about a year (which really isn't that much)
 
@Nyuszika7H I am here now...
 
@TheRenamedException A moment…
 O/
/|
/ \
@TheRenamedException do you see it?
 
Anyone any idea what key I can use for "previous track" given then "P" already means "Play"?
 
@TimStone NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
 
3:10 PM
Uh oh. :P
 
I'm going to lose neary 1,000 MSO rep! :-(
 
@ChrisF Hm, does it need to be an alphabetic key?
Oh, damn. o_o
 
@Nyuszika7H that's awesome!
 
@Nyuszika7H I do.
 
needs moar frames!
 
3:11 PM
@TimStone No, but I'm also already using the left and right arrow keys as well ;)
 
@TheRenamedException - Hey.
 
@Moshe Greetings
 
> This message has been edited 149 times
 
@TheRenamedException Yep, though it floods the chat history… yesterday I made 1561 edits on a message!
 
o_o
 
3:11 PM
@ChrisF, v?
 
@Nyuszika7H I'm sure you'll make friends with balpha or Marc that way... ;-)
 
@TheRenamedException Seen my script?
 
@Nyuszika7H WTF?
 
But the app is in a different mode so I could re-purpose those keys..
 
@Moshe I have not. What is it?
 
3:12 PM
@ChrisF Ah, one move ahead of me. ;) I'd suggest v too, in that case.
 
@ChrisF: how about page up/page down?
 
@RebeccaChernoff As in "down" - might work, then "next track"
 
@TheRenamedException See the sidebar, "minimalist" SO.
 
Does it have to work with something other than "normal" keyboard?
 
3:13 PM
@Moshe oh, right, I have seen you talking about that. It changes the UI to be black & white or something?
 
@esaj They might work - I could also use "Home" to mean rewind as well
 
@TheRenamedException Yea, grayscale, so it's easier on the eyes than B&W, but not full color.
 
not for me :-) I like it how it is...
 
@TheRenamedException fair enough.
 
I'm more of a Hot Dog Stand kinda guy...
 
3:14 PM
Sweet!
 
\o/
 
@Moshe You're making every site on the network as dreary as Meta!
 
@Moshe I will install it to check it out though
 
I found one more beer from the fridge ^__^
 
@esaj - I like your idea. Page up and Page down it is. Thanks
 
3:15 PM
Hooray!
 
@TheRenamedException Thank you.
@YiJiang No thank you. :P
 
@ChrisF: You're welcome
 
j/k would work also
 
@ChrisF What platform does this run on? My iMac Keyboard has not Page Up/Page down. (IIRC)
 
@RebeccaChernoff I was thinking about J as it points backwards and L as it points forwards ;)
@Moshe Windows ;)
 
3:16 PM
and L?
 
@ChrisF So if I decide to dual boot?
@RebeccaChernoff Yea, video editing programs do that
 
My Mac keyboard has Page Up/Page Down shrugs
 
j is backwards, k is stop, l is forward
@TimStone wireless/aluminum?
 
It's not wireless.
 
@Moshe Ah well if you will buy these fashion statements instead of proper computers ;)
 
3:17 PM
@TimStone Ah, the wireless ones are smaller, so the buttons are smaller/nonexistent
 
@ChrisF Luckily for me, I just bought the keyboard ;)
 
@ChrisF Erm, my Mac NEVER gets a BSOD. EVER EVER EVER. (Don't get me wrong, I've used windows for most of my life.)
 
@Moshe Is that fairly standard on audio/video playback?
@Moshe Did you not hear the irony as I typed :)
 
So many questions/comments as errors!
 
@ChrisF I've worked with video editing. In Adobe Premiere at least (one of the top three/four programs) that's how it goes. I can ask my audiophile friends what keys do it in audio programs.
In fact, it's googleable.
 
3:19 PM
My Windows -student license expired last summer, since then I've been using just Linux
Not that there's really anything wrong with Windows, just didn't feel like paying for it =P
 
@esaj qrcode.kaywa.com/… (Just kidding)
 
=D
 
Aww, they use the text as the permalink, no fun. shakes fist at kaywa.com
 
Modern Linuxes (Linuces?) are actually pretty easy to use
 
Lunixes
@esaj Indeed
 
3:21 PM
Lolnix
 
heh
 
Thingadongdongs
 
I've had to use Solaris at times at work, so actually it's been pretty useful to learn my way around the command line also
 
@Moshe I'd also like to have enough spare money to afford a decent Mac so my tongue was firmly in my cheek.
 
Not that I'm any sort of guru with *nixes, but basic knowledge and google get you pretty far ;)
 
3:23 PM
If anyone has suggestions of good ways to find homes for rent, please do let me know. I have just about exhausted Craigslist and padmapper :-/
 
@ChrisF heh
@TheRenamedException For you or for that client who got scammed? (Just asking. IYDM)
 
@Moshe for me
 
(redacted)
 
@Moshe the client of mine who was scammed, what happened is some scammer put her mother's home up for rent, with her mom still living there (with no plans on moving)
 
@TheRenamedException: Wtf? =D
 
3:26 PM
@esaj yeah. This poor family turned up all ready for heir 2 week vacation, and the mother was shocked
 
I can imagine...
 
Oh, wow. :/
 
money = sqrt(allEvil)
2
 
client must've hate thier mom.
 
3:30 PM
I understood it was some 3rd party who had put the home up for rent
 
It was
Some Nigerian scammer
 
Hopefully this doesn't sound mean, but looking for rental properties on Craigslist doesn't exactly seem like the best idea.
 
I'm out of stars, ugh.
 
@RebeccaChernoff agreed. I am being very careful. But I am looking locally where I can go see the property and meet the owner
 
I'm not too familiar with the concept of Craigslist
 
3:32 PM
@TheRenamedException failing to see why this ties you to Craigslist.
When I say doesn't seem like the best idea, I kinda mean worst idea possible heh.
 
E.G. the person yesterday who responded "I will need to do a credit check on you before I can show the home, go to someunidentifiedwebsite.com and fill in all your personal details" got ignored :-)
9 mins ago, by The Renamed Exception
If anyone has suggestions of good ways to find homes for rent, please do let me know. I have just about exhausted Craigslist and padmapper :-/
 
Hmm, the site I used when looking for a house had rentals too I think.
dusts off shelf in back of brain
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@TheRenamedException: Yeah, just send me your credit card info, I'm sure we'll find a nice cardboard bo... luxury home for you
;)
 
@esaj when I went to the home page of the site he sent me, it just said "coming soon!"
 
3:35 PM
No, that's not a scam, nah, no way!
@RebeccaChernoff checking now
 
but seriously, there are so many sites, Craigslist really just seems like the worst possible idea.
 
@RebeccaChernoff I agree, I have been very underwhelmed with Craigslist
@RebeccaChernoff so far, much better interface but very few listings... but this does look promising, thank you
 
Do a google search and just look at a few of the top results. Heck, look at the first few pages. I doubt CL is in the first...10 pages. Heck I'll go 25, maybe even 50 pages.
 
I'll try that after I exhause trulia. Thanks :-)
...which I might already have, lol
 
She really likes to rub salt in the wound, doesn't she? ;) (Just kidding, just kidding. :p)
 
3:43 PM
LOL
Ug. I might have to move to Durham :-p
looks to see if any Durham folk are around... whew, I'm safe
 
Unacceptable!
 
Uh! Lies! This one listing is down the street from me, in the same community I'm in. They posted a picture of the "amazing view", which looks like it's 5+ years old, that "amazing view" is now a strip mall! ROFLOL
 
The prices of apartments are insane, at least in here
 
Ah, you're in Finland?
 
Looks to me like rent's gone up since I found my current place 7 years ago
 
@YiJiang I think Dan Grossman beat you to that punch by a few days :P
 
@YiJiang that... is... great
 
@TimStone: Yeah
 
@TimStone Dammit! :P Goddamn reddit readers
 
Because I know Josh will love this.. ;)
Feb 23 at 4:49, by Tim Stone
@GeorgeMarian I originally thought that the words on the chart were the swear words used, saw "Ruby", went "That's not a swear word....well, actually..." to myself, and then realized what was up.
 
3:48 PM
260$/square feet for 30-40 year old apartment, sound like a lot?
 
@TimStone HEY!
 
@TimStone heh, sorry. It just really seems like nothing but a bad idea to me. |:
 
@esaj Ah, I've been to Tampere before, it was pretty nice. :) I didn't realize that housing was so expensive, though.
 
@TimStone: It's gone through the roof in the last year or two
@TimStone: How did you like Tampere?
I have some relatives there
 
UG, people are just about as dishonest on trulia as on Craigslist @Rebecca :-( "Home for rent" does not mean "Home for sale", yet at least 1/3 of the ones I am finding are really for sale instead. Pffft. Gonna just google for more sites now.
 
3:50 PM
@RebeccaChernoff No, I agree. I was actually going to make an analogy along those lines, but then stopped myself for other reasons. :P
 
Trulia was my life-saver when I was looking for a house.
 
@RebeccaChernoff looks to me like it's better for purchase than rental. I wish I were in a position to purchase
 
@esaj Ah, that sucks. It was cool, I had a pretty nice time. I was there visiting some friends, but this was some years ago...probably back in 2006 or 2007.
 
probably the MLS tie-in. especially being able to find the open houses and get alerts and such.
 
And I agree @RebeccaChernoff Craigslist is a bad idea. Sadly it's killed local classified here which is where I found my current home :-(
 
3:52 PM
do you want a house or apt?
 
House. But I make have to start considering townhomes and appts
 
@TheRenamedException Though to be fair, you saw how that turned out. :P
 
@TimStone True. But my landlord was great to deal with for 7 years. It's his crazy ex-wife who's the deranged psychopath! O_o
 
Hm, true... shakes fist at her
 
-3
Q: Link images - XHMTL/CSS

NicolI would like to link small image, should I use XHTML or CSS ? What is good, what bad practice ? Thank You!

 
3:55 PM
@TheRenamedException, click me!
 
@RebeccaChernoff hahaha, I was giving trulia one last shot :-)
but yes, that comes next
 
@Nyuszika7H: So that's how it's going to be... ;)
 
freehand drawing :) but I drawn that by accident!
 
;)
 
3:57 PM
dam you
 
@esaj blinks
 
@TheRenamedException This is why we fail.
 
Ok, now, how do I remove that x)
 
@TimStone tell me about it
 
@esaj hover over it, click the \/ arrow at the left, and click delete
 
3:58 PM
I is redundant again
 
Thanks, found it
 
ugh, that reminds me. loads up uverse web live support
 
This is going to be a disaster.
 
3:59 PM
To be fair, we live in a student flat that has 100/100Mbit with the rent
You can't get uploads like that with normal ISP's
 
Ok @RebeccaChernoff, Trulia has not understood my distaste for Durham and has sent me to Garner! (Total boonies. And I do not want to be in the boonies of North Carolina, thank you very much trulia!) So Google it is then!
 
@esaj Still, must be nice.
At least I get what I pay for, heh. :D
 
@TimStone: of course it's nice
 
@TheRenamedException uh, move the map to where you want it?
 
@TimStone: I just try not to think of the horror when we move out and get something like 4/1Mbit ,)
;)
 
4:00 PM
Hehhe
 
@RebeccaChernoff Oh use THE MAP!!!!
 
> flag weight 500 (max)
 
What page are you on?
 
4:01 PM
Bad posts BURNINATED!
 
Brb, smoke
 
There's a little google map I can drag up there. Durrrrr. I really had no idea I could interact with that
 
On the search results page, put the "Search Within" option on "map" and then move the map around.
 
@RebeccaChernoff that's actually very cool, they don't document that well enough
 
$('#chat').ajaxSend(function() {
    alert('test');
});
 
4:03 PM
You can also click "More neighborhood options" and get very specific.
 
OK. I recant what I said, now that I actually know wtf I'm doing this is much more helpful, ha! Thanks @Rebecca :-)
 
@TheRenamedException lol
The search options on Trulia are incredible.
 
Now where's trulia's meta so I can go whine about how new users don't know how to use it...?
 
pfft
just poke around
 
4:05 PM
;-)
@RebeccaChernoff I know, I was being sarcastic, "just poke around" is my answer to the users who whine on MSO
 
But he wants to whine about it NAOW!
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By the way, is there some way to flag a question as duplicate, or should I just post a comment about that?
 
@esaj post a link here
and what you feel is the duplicate
 
@esaj Uh… click on flag
 
4:06 PM
@esaj Yeah, it's counter-intuitively under "it doesn't belong here" in the flag menu
 
@TheRenamedException: I was just thinking in general, didn't spot one right now
But thanks, good to know
 
@esaj in general when you reach 3k you can cast close votes. In the meantime if you're sure it's a dup, flag
Or post in here, we love to act as your personal voting ring!
 
=)
 
VOTING RING ACTIVATE
 
Reaching 3k might take a while
 
4:09 PM
$('#votingRing').activate()
 
If you flag appropriately your flagging "rating" goes up and when it hits 500 you get a badge:
 
A full list of privileges can be found here
 
...Well, "full", not sure if they added in some of the new things which were missing.
 
@ChrisF what??? Since when??
 
4:09 PM
 
Since Popular Demand suggested it last week. :P
 
I like it when badges are created by Popular Demand
I also like when questions are closed by Popular Demand
 
31
Q: What is flag weight?

CoolBeansFlag weight can be viewed in user profiles. What is flag weight? Who can view my flag weight? When can I view my own flag weight? What are the possible values of flag weight? What are the benefits of a high flag weight? Return to FAQ index

 
@ChrisF sweet thanks
 
Ooh, I just earned the Talkative-badge... what do I win? ;)
 
4:12 PM
the talkative-badge
 
Yay!
 
Good question...let's say a free, non-monetary drink voucher good for one virtual, imaginary purchase in The Tavern of your choosing? ;)
 
Maybe I can trade it for more beer somewhere...
@TimStone: That's exactly what I was hoping for ;)
 
@waffles better be happy with all of this extra effort I'm putting into voting..that's twice now that I've hit the vote cap!
 
Went through the fridge one more time, I'm officially out of beer
 
4:14 PM
I share your pain.
 
Flag weight?
 
Hmm, two up votes away from the bronze badge, hoorah.
 
@TimStone yey!
@Nyuszika7H ROFLOL
 
@TimStone NAOW New Addicting Oy War
 
4:17 PM
I'll be getting Deputy today too :o
Hah
 
goes to downvote @TimStone and mark his flags invalid
 
How do you know
 
@TimStone Is it impossible to get more than 1 upvote per question in or is it just me?
 
@TimStone you need a gravatar dude ;-)
 
4:19 PM
@RebeccaChernoff Blasphemy!
@mootinator Apparently it helps if it has something to do with WordPress.
 
ok going afk for a bit
 
@TheRenamedException Yeaaaaah.... sighs I'm conflicted over what to use.
@mootinator Hahah :D
 
4:22 PM
Have I died, or something? :P
 
@TimStone nope :P
 
But yeah, otherwise mod_rewrite is the reason that I have Unsung Hero, heh.
 
It is definitely an unsung hero goldmine.
 
@TimStone I like how 'got flair?' and 'flag weight 500 (max)' are so close together
totally makes you expect to find a sheriff badge with your name in there
 
Yeah, where's my sheriff badge @RebeccaChernoff?!
 
4:27 PM
make one and make it your gravatar (;
 
I was thinking of just taking a picture, since it's the lazier route, but.
 
 
@RebeccaChernoff - Fixed the logos, completely, broke question titles (They're centered now). Check it out. (Requires userscript update) I essentially remove the "Stack Exchange" with JS.
 
 
@badp *would star this but I'm out of stars"
 
4:32 PM
Hahahah, brilliant.
 
0
Q: MetaSO: Unable to login

Jakub HamplThis question belongs on meta, however I can't login there even though I have an account there (same name). When I go to the /login page I am autologged in and redirected back, where I appear logged out again. For this reason I am unable to ask the question there (please migrate this question ;).

 
@Moshe wait, you're saying something is completely broken, but you want me to test it?
 
@RebeccaChernoff no, look at it. The script works, the CSS is having an unwanted side effect - temporarily. Look at the titles though, please.
 
Must resist urge to give bad advice.
 
@Moshe "unwanted side effect" != "broken"? (;
 
4:43 PM
working on it
@RebeccaChernoff ok, try now, please.
Fixed Logos and Question Titles
ok, just pushed a slightly shorter header.
I fixed your invisible zeros too, btw
 
Hehe, this is what I meant by let me know when it works. q: Updating every 30 seconds is kinda annoying. (;
 
The community user is the only "Deputy" (so far) on Programmers'
 
Heh, nice.
 
the owner box on posts is pushed into the sidebar.
 
@RebeccaChernoff Sorry. Will update in a while then. If you notice anything blatently wrong, ping me.
status-no-repro-or-im-an-idiot
 
4:48 PM
on MSO the title is still centered and the owner box is pushed into the sidebar
Share links are still smashed together
 
@RebeccaChernoff Actually, no repro, screenshot?
@RebeccaChernoff I know.
Why are the share links on some pages only and not on others?
 
@RebeccaChernoff my roommate just found this on craigslist so it's not totally useless :-)
 
@TheRenamedException Yea, go program from a log cabin! Awesome!
needsMoarAwesoem!
 
Why not? :-)
I love the Blue Ridge Mountains
 
@TheRenamedException I was serious.
 
4:52 PM
Somehow this sounds like a prelude to a horror movie
"I'll go code in the cabin at the lake"
;)
 
@esaj No Beer and no PHP make The Renamed Exception something something...
 
@TheRenamedException Really Moody?
 
bbiab
 
0
Q: Share your answer... please no

Stefano Borini Too aggressive. I am hunted in my dreams by the "share on whatever is the cool sharing place people like this year". I would mostly appreciate something less visually aggressive, or an option to disable this stuff altogether. Thank you!

That's a thing now?
 
4:56 PM
@TimStone where is that?
 
No idea, actually.
 
I can't figure out what site that is :-p
oh he said programmers
but I still don't see it
 
5:20 PM
@TimStone So, you are MSO's first Deputy!
 
@YiJiang That's SO ;)
 
@TimStone Oh... well, still, congrats!
 
Heh, thanks. /review makes it really easy to flag and vote now, lots of content that's in either direction.
 
5:33 PM
whelp, the uverse dude has finally chosen something to blame for my not getting the advertised speed I should be.
 
(^_^)
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\o/
/o\
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@TimStone I've seen it a few times.
 
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/|\
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Hello... my reputation suddenly dropped with no apparent reason - anyone knows what's going on?
 
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Q: Sudden sharp drop in reputation; find out reason (recalc?)

larsmansI just experienced a 208 points drop in rep. Maybe that's due to a rep recalc, but then I'd really like to see that in my recent activity, which shows no clue as to what happened. How do I find out exactly what happened? (I already did a manual recalc, which did not change my rep.)

 
5:43 PM
 
@RebeccaChernoff decode it (;
 
@Nyuszika7H It's not fun anymore when you can see the text in the query string...
 
@Nyuszika7H, I'm well aware what it decodes to. That doesn't mean my "..." is any less valid.
omg lmfao
> thats the easiest way to use a router, but if you know how to forward ports in the modem (techs dont always know how) thats all you will have to do to get it to work
> its considered out of scope for them and they are not supposed to help with that even if they know how
emphasis mine. No wonder I can never get any solutions from uverse techs
 
I'll donate you a pin from the Bridge, in the hope you can simulate the effect with enough stars:
 
5:51 PM
 
really, this is not a fun game...
 
@RebeccaChernoff bl! (See, I rot13-d it so you won't know what I said. It's completely unguessable -- I dare you to try)
4
 
That's a dangerous thing to do when I'm dealing with incompetent uverse techs... (;
 
@PopularDemand curiosity satisfied?
 
@TimStone I can't seem to make /status work with the current live versuon of SEChatModifications at rchern.github.com/StackExchangeScripts
Is that not where you added the new command handlers?
 
6:14 PM
Never mind @TimStone I figured out the problem. Have to enable the extensions in the proper order.
 
@MichaelMrozek It's oy... and I guessed it without typing it in a ROT13 decoder.
 
@Nyuszika7H Your detective skills are a wonder :)
2
 
@MichaelMrozek (:
 
6:38 PM
this amuses me.
 
@RebeccaChernoff I think people's eyes somehow jump over those tabs; most people don't know they exist
Maybe because they're attached to a header
 
but read what the OP says
> and the title of page is unanswered and tab is default selected is unanswered.
 
Oh. Never mind :)
 
I know, it's silly
21 mins ago, by Michael Mrozek
@Nyuszika7H Your detective skills are a wonder :)
;-)
 
I saw that @Nyuszika7H
ok lunchtime bbl
 

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