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@Moshe, really, I'd suggest just meticulously going through and looking at things. That way you can pick up all the stuff we're pointing out before asking people to test. (:

Moshe

@RebeccaChernoff Fair enough. I'm confused by that white 0, btw. Seems to be sharing a style but only halfway.

George Marian

Ok, @Moshe I have the text box up again. I don't notice a difference.

Moshe

@GeorgeMarian I know, hang on.

George Marian

Here I thought you were read for me to test it. :P

Moshe

@GeorgeMarian - Which question? I'm going to try and trigger it here.

George Marian

8:39 AM

5

Q: The etymology of the phrase "it's raining cats and dogs"

I was wondering about the phrase it's raining cats and dogs; I've heard two versions of the meaning of the phrase and I was wondering which one was correct or wrong altogether. The first: with 16th century European peasant homes frequently being thatched, animals seeking shelter from the elemen...

But, I'm sure there is some PFM related to it being displayed.

Moshe

hang on, I need to know what the div is that needs that border, hrm...

George Marian

That may be a tough one.

It seems to be in a div that normal displays anyway, which you wouldn't normally want to place a border around.

Moshe

Right... I've found some common styles, ".popup" and a similar one for notifications.

George Marian

Hmm. this may be it: <div class="share-tip">

Moshe

no search results, but I'm going to try it anyway.

George Marian

8:43 AM

That's everything under the "link | edit | flag" bit

Moshe

When using inspector, it should "blue" whatever html you hover over in inspector.

Nyuszika7H

Hi! :)

George Marian

nods

I know how to use Firebug. ;)

Nyuszika7H

@TheRenamedException Are you there?

George Marian

@Nyuszika7H I haven't seen him in a while.

Moshe

8:44 AM

@GeorgeMarian - Okay, added a border to share-tip

@GeorgeMarian He's been busy

Nyuszika7H

Is it just me or SO chat is broken?

Moshe

As have been @Fosco and @Zypher

George Marian

@Moshe Ok, I'll start clicking away then.

Moshe

@GeorgeMarian Yes, please do.

George Marian

@Moshe Yah, I noticed. Though, I did seem him here earlier today.

Moshe

8:45 AM

.share-tip{
	border: 2px solid #333;
}

I really should do better than that, but.

OH! It may be sprite background.

Well, let's see...

Nyuszika7H

1

Q: suggested edits with 0 changes

I've heard that you must make at least n (6?) character changes in order to suggest edit, yet here's an edit with 0 changes. You can view sources from edit history: before and after. Were rules changed recently?

support bug status-bydesign suggested-edits

Rebecca Chernoff

...?

Moshe

@RebeccaChernoff "...?" what?

Rebecca Chernoff

Wondering why @Nyuszika7H posted that here.

George Marian

Moshe

8:51 AM

@GeorgeMarian - Kinda, except the close button is out of the box.

Thank you.

George Marian

@Moshe Yeah, dunno WTF that's about.

Moshe

If you can get what that box is called, I can fix it.

Wait, what're the selectors on that button?

Nyuszika7H

@RebeccaChernoff Is it just me or SO's chat is broken?

George Marian

@Moshe On the close button? There is no class.

Rebecca Chernoff

It's just you. What's that have to do with that question?

Moshe

8:52 AM

@GeorgeMarian Is it inside of the box's HTML?

Rebecca Chernoff

@GeorgeMarian It's all in .share-tip.

Moshe

@RebeccaChernoff What's with that link than?

Nyuszika7H

@RebeccaChernoff nothing :P

After a Ctrl+F5, now it works! :)

Rebecca Chernoff

...oy

Moshe

@GeorgeMarian - Try to invoke the box again.

George Marian

8:54 AM

Moshe

@GeorgeMarian perfect, thanks.

@GeorgeMarian - try invoking it again.

George Marian

ok

Moshe

I think it's a generic rule on hyperlinks but I'm not sure. I added some padding and a shadow on the box. Let's see what happens.

George Marian

Ok, I don't see any difference. The close is still outside of the border.

Moshe

oh, meh, it's float right.

I don't think I can fix that, per se.

@RebeccaChernoff

The HTML is overriding my CSS! No fair!

oh, hang on a sec, I can prolly trash that.

@GeorgeMarian - Once more please.

George Marian

9:00 AM

ok

Moshe

I might have nailed it.

Rebecca Chernoff

inject the html locally so you can test it

George Marian

@Moshe Sorry to burst your bubble, but...

Moshe

@RebeccaChernoff How? Can I do that in the inspector?

@GeorgeMarian screenshot?

George Marian

one sec

Moshe

9:02 AM

k

Rebecca Chernoff

@Moshe yes.

George Marian

Moshe

@RebeccaChernoff Ok, I don't know what all of it looks like, so I'm just injecting the div and its contents, not sure where though.

I assume it goes after those links, as @GeorgeMarian mentioned.

Rebecca Chernoff

@GeorgeMarian showed you the exact html...

Nyuszika7H

@Moshe Are you trying to add the log out link back?

George Marian

9:06 AM

@Moshe Yes, it's after the links, all within the post-menu div.

Moshe

@Nyuszika7H heh no

@GeorgeMarian ok. Gosh, haven't seen so many tables used for layout in years.

Sheesh, SO.

George Marian

lol

Tim Stone

gets popcorn

George Marian

In their defense, the W3C still hasn't given us a good replacement.

@TimStone Dang it, now I want a snack.

Moshe

@GeorgeMarian true

Tim Stone

9:07 AM

Heh :P

George Marian

As I like to say, we want a true 2D layout, not this 1.5D layout we're forced to bend to our will.

Hmm...I wonder if the gf still has some of those "cheese" flavored rice cakes.

Tim Stone

O_o Cheese flavoured eh?

George Marian

Yeah, they're sprinkled with some yellow crap. But, they're pretty tasty. Somewhat like "plain" wheat puffs.

Moshe

@GeorgeMarian Wait, if you get that popup again, mind pasting the HTML in here so I don't have to peck it out?

Tim Stone

Ah, I guess that really isn't that odd, heh.

Moshe

9:13 AM

@TimStone Can you help solve this one?

8 mins ago, by George Marian

Tim Stone

Just style the div so that it holds floated elements...

Moshe

how so?

is overtired, which @TimStone can't relate to.

Rebecca Chernoff

so go to bed

Tim Stone

There's a site for those kinds of questions...and this one has been answered many times.

Moshe

@TimStone link me please

@RebeccaChernoff Yea, i should. It's gonna be a crazy day.

Tim Stone

9:15 AM

Yeah, I'm typing this from my iPhone, that's not going to happen right now.

Nyuszika7H

GEOCHET, North Branford, CT

1 2 14 46

feature-request discussion support reputation status-completed comments bug

George Marian

grr..message is too long...how can I cheat that again?

Moshe

@TimStone Oh, ok. Well then go buy my game, it's iOS friendly.

George Marian

@TimStone Nah, but the "sweet chili" I had to settle on is a bit odd.

Moshe

@GeorgeMarian I have "lukshen kugel" leftover from yesterday. (That's noodles/eggs/spices fried in oil.)

George Marian

9:16 AM

@Moshe Here's just the share-tip html:

<div class="share-tip">share a link to this hot question to earn the <a href="/badges">publicist badge</a><input type="text" value="http://english.stackexchange.com/q/14260/456" style="display:block; width:292px;"><a onclick="question.hideShareTip()" style="float:right">close</a></div>

Tim Stone

Hmm, sweet chili is always a weird flavour I find.

Moshe

@GeorgeMarian Thank you.

Yi Jiang

So what's the problem now?

George Marian

@TimStone Yeah, it burns in a rather unexpected way.

Yi Jiang

You can select the close a element, right?

Moshe

9:18 AM

@YiJiang no, I can't really, because there's no selector on it and it's not the only link in there

George Marian

Gah...so many windows...so many freaking windows...

Yi Jiang

@Moshe .share-tip input + a should do

Moshe

@YiJiang and do what? remove the float?

Yi Jiang

Not sure, will have to look at the actual CSS to do that, and I don't think I can coax the thingadongdong to appear

Moshe

@YiJiang inject the HTML @GeorgeMarian just posted it.

sounds smart, although he was told the same just moments ago

George Marian

9:19 AM

lol

Yi Jiang

Have you tried setting overflow: hidden on the parent .share-tip element?

@Moshe What's the context? Which element to inject into?

George Marian

@YiJiang That wouldn't work.

Moshe

@YiJiang inject the "thingadongdong" into the page to play with the CSS.

George Marian

@YiJiang Inside the post-menu div, after the links.

Yi Jiang

@GeorgeMarian Not the usual clearfix problem then, hmmm?

Moshe

9:21 AM

@YiJiang kinda, but how do you inject that with just CSS?

:after is not well supported.

George Marian

@YiJiang I dunno. I assumed it wouldn't display the close, as it's technically outside of the div.

Moshe

If I remove the float:right, it appears on the bottom left of the tooltip.

Yi Jiang

@GeorgeMarian I was guessing it might be a uncleared float problem, hang on, lemme see...

Tim Stone

I was thinking overflow: auto, but yeah.

Moshe

@YiJiang that it is, but how to fix.

George Marian

9:22 AM

@YiJiang Ah, I see.

Tim Stone

I mean, that div is styled fine now, so...

Moshe

overflow: hidden works. As does overflow: auto, but that adds a scrollbar.

@TimStone Not in the "clean" css, it isn't.

Nyuszika7H

@GeorgeMarian No you can't. If you try sending the message with an Ajax request, you get 500 Internal Server Error.

George Marian

Hmm...unexpected. overflow:hidden on share-tip seems to work. At least, when done in the inspector.

Tim Stone

So look in the actual CSS?

Moshe

9:25 AM

status-repro

Nyuszika7H

@Moshe It's status-reproduced

Moshe

@GeorgeMarian - Okay, try again, I've updated the CSS file.

This should do it.

ok

9:26 AM

@GeorgeMarian Similar here, I added a bit of padding though.

@GeorgeMarian please let me know your results.

Once again, there is no need to update the script, the css file is pulled automatically from github as I update it.

George Marian

Of course. BTW, did you increase the size of the font on the main page?

Yi Jiang

.share-tip {
    -moz-box-shadow: 0 2px 2px #999999;
    background: none repeat scroll 0 0 #EFEFEF;
    border: 2px solid #CCCCCC;
    padding: 10px 10px 8px;
    position: absolute;
    width: 300px;
}

Moshe

@GeorgeMarian a bit, yes.

Yi Jiang

George Marian

@Moshe Heh, this more than just a bit. lol

Yi Jiang

9:29 AM

The share buttons need to be style too, by the way

George Marian

answers is flowing out of the box.

Moshe

@YiJiang nice, gonna use that, but with some changes possibly.

@GeorgeMarian screenshot?

George Marian

Good thing I left GIMP open, heh.

Moshe

@YiJiang - You wanna step in, fork me on github and I'll pull your changes later?

Yi Jiang

@Moshe Not really, I'm still working on something myself

Moshe

9:30 AM

ok

George Marian

I'm gonna end up with so many moshe_*.png files in Pictures directory...

Moshe

@GeorgeMarian ugh. It'll take some tweaking.

Yi Jiang

You've choosen a font that's too wide. Remember to include Linux fonts too in the font stack

George Marian

Yah, that's a bit too large. I instinctively hit CTRL+0, thinking I had enlarged the font myself.

Moshe

Not that I'm complaining, but this is beyond "userscript". This is writing a style for SE.

@YiJiang you sound like an IDE warning.

Yi Jiang

9:32 AM

@Moshe Hahahahaha... :P

Moshe

I really need to get to sleep.

We're making good progress, thanks for all the help. Feel free to fork on GitHub. Oh @YiJiang, feel free to recommend a minimalist font for Linux.

@GeorgeMarian I keep an SO directory in my pictures directory.

George Marian

@Moshe Yeah, I probably should do that.

Yi Jiang

@Moshe Ubuntu, 'Liberation Sans'

Still checking the others

Liberation Sans is used in SO's font stack

George Marian

@moshe what'd you break?

Ok, there we go.

Moshe

I broke the fonts. Ugh. Dont even know where in the file or how.

I can't type coherently at this hour.

@YiJiang Someone pin/star that till I wake up.

night

George Marian

9:38 AM

@Moshe That is the risk of coding late into the night. :)

Moshe

@GeorgeMarian yea, btw the script is updated, I forgot to increment the version, but I made a minor adjustment (tested to work)

Really, Good night.

George Marian

heh g'night

Nyuszika7H

@Moshe Night? It's morning there. (UTC+0100, CET)

George Marian

If I can trigger that pop-up before I get tired of trying, I'll post a screenshot.

Moshe

@GeorgeMarian ok

@Nyuszika7H there? Oh shut it. :P

Nyuszika7H

9:41 AM

@Moshe Hungary…

Moshe

@YiJiang - added your font.

@GeorgeMarian Inject it. I'm going to be dreaming of jQuery selectors now and CSS siblings ugh!

Nyuszika7H

@YiJiang A quick JS question, only because nobody is at SO's JS chat room:

Is this correct?

Yi Jiang

@Nyuszika7H Is what correct?

Moshe

closes browser window, but not before pinging @JeffAtwood to see his work. github.com/MosheBerman/MinimalOverflow/blob/master/…

3

Nyuszika7H

var obj = {
    prop: 'foo',
    getProp: function() {
        return this.prop;
    }
}

Yi Jiang

9:43 AM

@Nyuszika7H Eh, think so

Moshe

(someone star so I can leave)

@Nyuszika7H Yes it's correct, was just reading Dori Smith's JS book today.

nite

closes window

George Marian

Oh, it would need to be a reply to a post for it to onebox the image, huh?

@moshe Screencap above.

Nyuszika7H

@TheRenamedException Here's my dance script:

var dance = {
    a: '\O ' + '\n' +
       ' |\' + '\n' +
       '/ \' + '\n',
    b: ' O/' + '\n' +
       '/| ' + '\n' +
       '/ \',
    bool: false,
    toggle: function() {
        var _b = this.bool;
        this.bool = !this.bool;
        return (_b) ? this.a : this.b;
    },
    start: function(id) {
        this.dancing = setInterval(function() {
            $.post('/messages/' + id, { 'fkey': fkey().fkey, 'text': dance.toggle() });
        }, 750);
    },
    stop: function(id) {
        clearInterval(this.dancing);

First, you have to post dance.a, then you just do dance.start(id); – where id is the previously posted message's ID.

If someone is AFK, s/he can be there… because s/he's not AFM. :P

George Marian

Okay, I think it's time to give this sleep thing a try. G'night folks

Nyuszika7H

!george LEARN sleep: Go to the bed, recline on it, close you eyes and… dream. Don't forget to wake up at morning.

Anyone?

Yi Jiang

10:01 AM

@Nyuszika7H Nope

Nyuszika7H

@YiJiang lol… you're right, everybody is a bot there :P

status-bydesign

status-byprogramming

Moshe

ugh, just sent out a (hopefully) final build to a client. now I can go to sleep. It's practically sunrise here...

Nyuszika7H

10:45 AM

status-meh

status-nomeh

The Renamed Exception

1:37 PM

yawns

@Nyuszika7H sorry; I was sleeping :-)

just woke up, must get coffffeeee... bbs!

Nyuszika7H

1:54 PM

Hi! :)

@TheRenamedException Still there?

Tim Stone

2:31 PM

yawns Hmm..

O_o

Yi Jiang

Need mobile tester for new garden design: dl.dropbox.com/u/1722364/Garden/index.html

Nyuszika7H

@YiJiang Hold on…

turns on Wi-Fi

starts Opera Mobile

Tim Stone

Hmm, must have gotten one of my SO down votes back? I somehow got 1 reps...weird.

Oh look, the /reputation page has changed too.

Nyuszika7H

types the address

looks at the mobile design

Nice, but what is PREV SECTION, NEXT SECTION?

Yi Jiang

@Nyuszika7H It should take you to the next and previous section

Oh gosh, I forgot about position: fixed and mobile browsers

Grrr...

ircmaxell

2:36 PM

looks the same as the web version on my Android

Nyuszika7H

There's a CSS trick for that… hold on…

Yi Jiang

@ircmaxell Uh...

@Nyuszika7H No, it has to be JavaScript, IIRC

ircmaxell

Oh, the sidebar changes

Nyuszika7H

selector {
    mobile-css-trick-23526-46225-23562-32566-TOP-SECRET-position: fixed;
}

Tim Stone

Ah, global recalc :o

Nyuszika7H

2:39 PM

4 hours ago, by Nyuszika7H

status-byprogramming

Yi Jiang

@TimStone Looks like it, hrm...

Tim Stone

7

A: Sudden sharp drop in reputation; find out reason (recalc?)

We are running a global recalc right now across all Stack Exchange sites in preparation for showing leagues on the /users page, you can see more details (and suggest things!) in this question: Redesigning the /users page Note no reputation rules have changed, we're just doing a recalc to get you...

Nyuszika7H

Hmm, I have 300 rep on MSO.

Yi Jiang

I'll be losing around 150 on Meta ;_;

Nyuszika7H

-2

Q: 10-minute wait to accept a question.

Please, S/O, stop placing these ridiculous time limitations on Questions and Answers. Fair enough, you want to stop people from gaming the system, or maybe you're trying to save bandwidth. But there are other ways of going about it, instead of getting on peoples nerves.

discussion time-limit

@YiJiang why?

Yi Jiang

2:40 PM

@Nyuszika7H Recalc

Moshe

Hey!

has napped

@ircmaxell - Seen the latest MinimalOverflow script?

ircmaxell

No, that's on my work computer

I'll see it tomorrow morning

Moshe

Ok, it's now on GitHub, as is the stylesheet.

ircmaxell

+1 more till my first Nice Answer on MSO

Nyuszika7H

@ircmaxell link

Moshe

2:48 PM

github.com/MosheBerman/MinimalOverflow

@ircmaxell Voting Ring Time!

link?

ircmaxell

9

A: Redesigning the /users page

I'd love to see a stub with location and tags just like we have in chat. It's not much extra realestate if you only do the top 3 or 4 tags, but should add quite a bit of information at a glance about where the user participates...

Nyuszika7H

@ircmaxell +1

ircmaxell

:-D

Yi Jiang

Looks like the rep recalc will cause us to use up our close votes on Meta in no time

Moshe

@ircmaxell - Just scanned your gravatar with a QR Reader for iPhone, hehe.

ircmaxell

2:51 PM

hehehe

Nyuszika7H

QR Code Decoder!

ircmaxell

37signals.com/svn/posts/2785-the-end-of-the-it-department

^^ Thoughts?

Nyuszika7H

> Help! I'm trapped in a bar-code factory!

They're not exactly the same…

wonders why

Moshe

@Nyuszika7H I know.

Nyuszika7H

@Moshe Why?

Rebecca Chernoff

2:57 PM

@YiJiang I'm about, so you can point me at them if you want.

Moshe

^^^ @ircmaxell @Nyuszika7H - Can you read that one? ^^^

Nyuszika7H

> Once upon a time, a chicken found a dime. He showed it to the programmer who proceeded to write unit tests to validate the chicken's story. Everyone knows not to use floats for currency, but what datatype is a chicken?

Moshe

@Nyuszika7H Yep.

ircmaxell

@Moshe VARCHAR(8)

Nyuszika7H

<?php
    header('Content-Type: text/chicken');
?>

esaj

2:58 PM

@ircmaxell: we have ~80 people at work an no IT-department

*and

ircmaxell

none at all?

esaj

Nope, roughly 90% of the people are programmers

With very various skills

Moshe

@ircmaxell really? sighs I obviously haven't slept enough.

esaj

We administrate our own servers

Nyuszika7H

Moshe

2:59 PM

@esaj administer

esaj

@Moshe: right, that's what I meant ;)

ircmaxell

@esaj But who manages the network, internet, etc?

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