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1:00 PM
That's why you put code-inline documentation info directly in a comment
and format the comment specifically to accomodate
 
@ShadowWizard ok, let me check....
 
@Derpy this?
9 mins ago, by Derpy
Feb 12 at 11:52, by Derpy
do you need to re-enable animated avatar? I should still have the required user-script
What about it? I'm not talking about user script, but on cases where everyone will see the animation.
If one wants to see the animation behind current ,gif avatars of course they can have userscripts, nothing wrong with that. :)
 
@ShadowWizard I fail to see how "everyone" would see the animation
imgur actually stores the animated version of the picture. The avatars are requested with a query string in order to have them resized
the resized version is just the first frame of the animation
 
@Magisch I've kicked some shins... but I'm likely to end up adding it anyways. I'm not going to spent a lot of energy on something I only have to work 14 more days on! :P
 
@Derpy imgur does not strip the animation away from animated gif image, as the example I used before showing. The trick SE use is to always use a thumbnail version by adding ?s=[nnn] to the image, and relying on imgur to remove animation from the thumbnails it creates. And that's where it sometimes fails.
So sometimes ?s=num will still show the original image.
Might be 1 to 100 or 1 to 1000 but I'm sure it happened in the past, and good chance it can still happen.
 
1:07 PM
@ShadowWizard same thing I said below. So, you can't force them to always fail and for every request.
 
@Derpy ohhh, of course not.
Just saying that with enough time on their plate, one can abuse it to have animated avatar.
 
Does it happen per fetch, or per upload?
Like if I uploaded 1000 images and found one of them, when retrieved, was still animated, would other people also see it as animated?
 
And if it turns out to be easy with script, SE should block it from the low level, i.e. disable .gif for avatars.
 
@ShadowWizard slightly unpopular opinion. SE can do a better job at image hosting and avas than imgur can ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek no they can't... not without spending way too much resources on that.
 
1:09 PM
@JourneymanGeek It'd have to. All it takes is for someone to create an upload interface that allows anyone to easily upload to stack.imgur.com to get SE kicked off.
 
@ShadowWizard other than that SE dosen't have that many image
 
@Tinkeringbell who knows what arcane sourcing they use to make wikis
 
@forest eww
 
you're a contractor right?
 
more that imgur sometimes fails hard
 
1:10 PM
SE hosts their own images for Channels.
 
@Magisch Sort-of. Work for a big company that does a lot of outsourcing to other big companies ;-)
 
@Tinkeringbell kinda like me
 
@forest you must check the thumbnail, the original will always be the same anyway.
 
@Tinkeringbell sounds like horror
 
@ShadowWizard and I repeat.... HOW? the failure doesn't seem to be linked to the image, just the request. So the same avatar can be returned animated in some cases, in some others as a normal image
 
1:10 PM
Avatar has many different sizes, so check them all. @forest
 
@ShadowWizard Is it possible that some sizes trigger the bug and some don't?
All I care about is the size used for avatars anyway.
 
@forest might be. The one I saw was in the Hot Questions page on se.com
 
hm
 
@Magisch Is fun ;) Lots of fancy projects and if I get really fed up here I can just say to my manager that I want to do something different and they'll help me find one, as every project can always use a female :P
(That last part is actually not so fun)
@forest 'scuse me, did I miss something? That's not really nice, and I don't get the impression you're joking.
 
He suspended me for 30 minutes for saying the f word ironically.
 
1:14 PM
that's not how it works
 
I mean I assume it was him. If it wasn't it was an irritating coincidence.
 
that's an automatic suspension from flags
 
@forest Well, I'd be careful then, because the words you just used certainly could've earned you a suspension too.
 
you can't suspend someone manually for 30m, it's technically impossible
 
It happened in less than 5 seconds after posting.
No way I could get 3 flags in <5 seconds.
 
1:15 PM
sure you could
 
Oh well. Guess it's the automated system I should be mad at.
Sorry @JourneymanGeek
 
However
I don't think you get RA
we de-escalate situations
not feed them
 
RA?
 
root access
That's why its reasonably drama free
 
@forest 30 minute suspensions are automatic
 
1:17 PM
@Derpy that is what I once saw: (it's a mockup I created now, but it was very similar)
The only way to make it happen was to upload until the 16x16 thumbnail version (?s=16) will fail thus serving original picture.
 
@forest so, here's the deal. Basically its a close knit community that's had to deal with a lot of trolling in the past.
Chances are if we know someone's going to make drama, either a mod or RO will deal with it, or we'll all just ignore it
 
Also I still see 2 lines with the f word that weren't deleted.
When it was my ironic use of it which got a suspension in <5 seconds.
@JourneymanGeek Well this isn't IRC anyway so my ability to make drama is severely restricted. Which also makes it less worthwhile.
 
@ShadowWizard so you are saying that it was that way 100% of the times even after a reload, implying that the original server side thumb was corrupted/missing and it had to fall back to the animated version every time?
 
Drama is never worthwhile
 
@Derpy exactly
 
1:20 PM
@JourneymanGeek so I propose you all stop this drama and go vote for the calendar here.
4
A: Time for some more swag!

SPArchaeologistWell, considering the current season and that the theme is the passing of time, I think an Advent Calendar is most appropriate here. Run the attached snippet to see it. var today = new Date(); $(".dialog").dialog({ autoOpen : false, modal : true, show : "blind", hide : "blind" ...

 
I think mod/SE staff had to reset the avatar.
 
@ShadowWizard more that that room's got a very positive culture + we're really really well behaved.
 
@Derpy If we're spamming: meta.stackexchange.com/a/318946/369802 Could use some help too, it's dropped a lot over the weekend
 
I literally said I "nowadays I just make threats and forget to follow through". Doesn't that imply that the previous threats were pretty empty?
 
1:24 PM
13 messages moved to Trashcan
stop
 
guh
 
Watching fish should calm everyone down :P
 
@Tinkeringbell this isn't even a fish, that's a seal
 
(All pictures not made by me, but my brother or his colleagues)
@Magisch manatee, to be exact. And it's sleeping. Isn't it cute!
 
1:27 PM
@Tinkeringbell it has my seal of approval :D
 
@Mithrandir That's a lot of fishies!
We're planning a visit to the zoo soon, to take a lot of fish pictures.
 
I keep meaning to dump my new GoPro in a river and see if I can get fish pics :P
 
@Tinkeringbell fishy ;)
@Mithrandir or eaten by a big one
 
that'd be quite the fish
 
@ShadowWizard Shhh. Nothing fishy going on here...
 
1:29 PM
GoPros are small, but not that small
 
lol
So a whale can eat it.
 
there's probably lots of fish big enough
 
Sure, but I doubt there are many whales in a Golan spring...
 
lol
@Mithrandir try and report back to us.... :D
 
1:31 PM
;)
 
@M.A.R. you have whales at your place?
Do they eat GoPro camera?
 
Woo drama
I want in
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ nah, it's fished by now
 
I haven't referred anyone to the new CoC yet
I want fish
 
1:33 PM
Well, it was a fish... :P
 
What is that slice of carrot doing there?
 
(the thing to the left, not the purple)
 
Awesome. I.stack.imgur is blocked again
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ ._.
 
@Tinkeringbell decoration/tradition. ;)
 
1:34 PM
The purple seems a beetroot thing?
 
If cache is cleared Sha's beauty will fade away
 
@ShadowWizard Honestly... I don't get cooking sometimes ;)
 
Actually that's a good question. @Mithrandir might know better. @Mithrandir why is גפילטע פיש served with a slice of carrot?
 
absolutely no idea
 
1:35 PM
Its a picture of a slice of fish, dark skin on and a sort of light brown with a single lonely slightly overcooked slice of carrot and an almost luridly red lump of something. There's also a 3 pronged fork with an ornage handle
 
marking @Mith as :P
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ :( I sent you a picture of Biff!
 
*eyeroll*
 
Biff is awesome. He's a Epinephelus tukula, and the aquarium my brother works at is the only one in the Netherlands that has that species. He's also really smily and reacts to his name :D
 
@ShadowWizard You have reached that conclusion way too late
 
1:37 PM
Also follows the right color of blue clothing around :P
 
@Tinkeringbell Well, fish reaction always looks like a "WTF!" to me
 
@Tinkeringbell that's the color, yes. The taste is of Horseradish though, it's very spicy. (when made properly)
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Especially rays have a talent for looking like they're smiling ;)
 
"Hey Biff!" "OMG WTF I SWEAR I DIDN'T EAT THE CAT"
 
But Biff just looks happy, always :P
 
1:39 PM
uh oh, SO is down :(
> HTTP Error 503. The service is unavailable.
 
@ShadowWizard Carrots are a sign of . . . love
@ShadowWizard Carrots are a sign of . . . love
 
@Stijn Offline for maintenance on my side
 
Uh oh, SO is down and my internet is crappy
 
yeah I see the same now
 
Nothing on Twitter yet.
 
1:42 PM
woohoo double love from @M.A.R. :D
 
everything seems down
 
up
!!/blame
o.o
Poor Smokey didn't survive whatever it was. :(
 
hm
everything seems down
 
!!/come back
 
chat was semi-broken too :P
 
1:44 PM
@JourneymanGeek Tavern is up, that's what important. :D
 
@JourneymanGeek Works on my machine now... SE site, MSE, chat...
 
Tavern was timing out
 
we resume your regularly scheduled program
 
@Taryn any insights of the downtime we just had all over? :)
 
@Tinkeringbell must climb board
 
1:45 PM
@Tinkeringbell anyway, I was amazed I couldn't find anything about reason behind the fish served with carrot.
 
@Derpy Am trying :P Feel free to advertise anywhere you'd like. I made dino's and the dagger myself, the rest was carefully gathered during holidays or digs ;)
@ShadowWizard It's the same reason most spreads in our office canteen come with a sprig of greenery, I guess :P
 
my answer is dropping off the front page
 
'looks fancy/healthy'
 
rip watch
 
@Magisch I don't think I have much of a chance too XD
 
1:47 PM
@ShadowWizard 1. carrot is good
 
Sorry! I can't help both of you out any more, perhaps with a bounty? :P
'I really want my friends to win, go upvote their answers' XD
 
naw
I'll deal ;)
 
@Tinkeringbell contact the Indian Hacker Team?
 
@JourneymanGeek you could ask if they'd give you a watch anyways as mod swag
 
@Bart That'd be cheating. That will likely disqualify both me and the person I'm trying to honestly help!
 
1:51 PM
@Magisch maybe ;p
but man, its been ages since proper contests XD
 
Tavern is up again
 
For a while now :P
 
Did someone spill coffee on something that shouldn't have been spilled on?
Oh no oh no time bomb
I still have so many things to say
 
Timetravel caused a glitch in the matrix
 
Like
Well
 
1:55 PM
No spilling coffee in here! Just give it to me.
 
There are so many I need to prioritize them first
Like you know how some Ghandis say "there are no stupid questions"?
 
@Bart I'm now imagining @Bart like this cleaning up spilt coffee :P
 
What a stupid thing to say. The Ghandis are fake
I have proof. The real Ghandi died like, before Facebook
@Tinkeringbell That's accurate except for the glasses
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ actually the Ghandi's are Nehrus...
 
@Tinkeringbell might be deeper, I'll ask on the proper SE site soon. ;)
 
1:58 PM
@JourneymanGeek The conspiracy deepens
Anyway, back to the point
 
in Shadow's Den, 12 mins ago, by FOX 9000
Bot restarted after crash.
Immortal bot! ^
 
@ShadowWizard If you get an interesting answer, let me know :D
 
@ShadowWizard FOX is one of those giant majestic jellyfish who don't die
There are of course stupid questions
But when questions are called stupid, a considerable portion are questions asked in a stupid manner
That's one of the things I had to say
Now, hmm, what else
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ pee
Or maybe better in Den?
Just watch your step, @EKons might be there.
:D
@Kenny is also dead. :(
 
@Tinkeringbell Oh, well, just knowing if anyone liked the jokes so far would be good.
 
2:13 PM
@Derpy I did :D
 
0
Q: What is the origin of adding a slice of carrot to Gefilte fish?

קוסם הצלליםHere is a typical serving of Gefilte fish: What is the source of the habit to add that slice of carrot on top of the fish?

Now let's wait... ;)
 
I was almost convinced you were going to SA with that :P
 
109
A: Are carrots dyed orange?

CatijaProbably not. Carrots naturally (or due to selective breeding) come in an extremely wide variety of colors from white to yellow to orange to red/pink to purple. It's likely that you were simply looking at two different varieties, one of which was more pale than the other. click image for sourc...

Why are we talking about carrots, anyway?
 
@Catija purple is original...
I think we can blame orange on the dutch ;p
also not the most interesting case of selective breeding for nationalist purposes...
 
> Disclaimer: Dec, 15th is CAT HERDERS DAY
 
2:18 PM
!!/blame᠎ ‍​᠎᠎᠎
 
@Mithrandir It's Tinkeringbell's fault.
 
Yep. Definitely the Dutch's fault.
 
I blame you for doctoring that one!
 
Unless I manage to forget, expect a lot of cats pictures
 
The Husum Red Pied (German: Rotbuntes Husumer) is a rare breed of domestic pig with the nickname Danish Protest pig (German: Husumer Protestschwein and Danish: Husum protestsvin or danske protestsvin). It originates in North Frisia in Southern Schleswig in the beginning of the 20th century, when Danes living in the area under Prussian rule were prohibited from raising the Danish flag and displayed the Protest Pig instead. Due to its red color, its broad white vertical belt and a trace of a white horizontal belt resembling the colors of the Flag of Denmark, it was made a symbol of their cultural...
 
2:18 PM
!!/blame᠎ ​‌‌⁣‍⁣
 
@Mithrandir It's rene's fault.
 
@Tinkeringbell nah, thought it's a Jewish food. Still think, so likely it will be closed on there too. Won't risk it. :)
 
Me? Making it blame the Dutch? Would I do such a thing...?
 
2:29 PM
@ShadowWizard Using the right wording that could easily be on-topic on Mi Yodeya.
 
@Alex feel free to try... the mod closing the question left no room for discussion and I have no intention to try again. :)
 
2:51 PM
@TimPost Given your recent answer, what do you think of this proposal?
 
Hopefully his ape won't take over MSE!
1 1
 
Sorry, had to drop out. I got to explain code to a co-worker. That was a nice change of work :D
 
I'm having an especially inflated ego right now because 'You explained it much better than (that annoying) co-worker'
 
petting @Tinkeringbell's ego Well done! :D
From what team is that co-worker?
 
2:58 PM
@ShadowWizard here's the strange part
@ChrisF umm, did that thing (the Twitter bot) actually start working again? Because for the longest time it was broken because of auth / throttle / limit issues that we couldn't resolve and now I think we might need to check and make sure someone still knows it's capable of running. Meta questions weren't supposed to be tweeted automatically. You sure you're not seeing a human-curated Twitter feed (one of the older ones?) What site was this? — Tim Post ♦ 18 mins ago
and there was a OT comment thread from there ;p
 
@ShadowWizard Team #2 ;) The fun one that I'm hopefully still going back to in January ;)
 
So, this time, lets hold off from dupe closing please!
 
@Tinkeringbell yay!
 
also I'm a bit amused that the bots are supposed to be broken
and are very quietly running
 
@JourneymanGeek hehe, why strance? Tim doesn't know everything. :)
@JourneymanGeek it was hard, but I managed!
Who deleted the comments then? Tim Or Chris?
 
3:02 PM
@ShadowWizard more that it seems no one knew it was running + I don't think the context of why that question was asked
 
Well, if it does get closed Chris can reopen his own question :P
 
@ShadowWizard comments are still there
 
@ShadowWizard All voluntary.
 
oh
For sonic
 
@JourneymanGeek huh?
 
3:03 PM
actually no
no deleted comments
@ShadowWizard for this
 
Oh, wait, looking at the wrong post
 
ohhhhh face palm
Two different topics.
 
I kinda held of deleting any comments because I wanted to make sure information was carried over as needed
 
Thought it was on the twitter bot posting meta stuff
 
@ShadowWizard ya, that started on an unrelated post ;p
 
3:07 PM
I'm going to run, my brother is picking me up (surprise!) Means no SE chat during travels home though, so I'll be missing for a few hours! :P
 
3:19 PM
My rolls of film are developed, just gotta run to the photo store to pick them up
 
You always run?
 
Of course.
 
@JourneymanGeek here he appears to only walk:
That expression also somehow fits our Sonic. ;)
Occupied? Determined? :)
 
@ShadowWizard got to go fast
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog what do you use to shoot?
 
@Bart The specific model?
 
3:32 PM
Yup
 
@Bart Canon EOS Rebel 2000 (known as EOS 300 outside of the U.S.)
 
Ah cool. Fairly recent model then. (well, for film)
 
4:02 PM
@Bart and what you have?
 
For film? Several. A Yashica TLR, a Pentacon Six, 2 Yashica Electro 35 (but they are broken :( ), a Polaroid SX-70.
 
Whoa, sounds like you're really into it. :)
What you do with all the pictures?
Which reminds me.... @Tink I'm still waiting for the picture of the colorful socks! ;-D
 
Scan them. Edit the good ones. I used to put them on Flickr. But I haven't shot in a while now.
There's some film stuff mixed in here: flickr.com/photos/bkevelham
But it's old
 
@Bart so what's the point in film camera (is it correct term?) if you scan it? Why not have digital camera to begin with?
 
@ShadowWizard sometimes the constraints make it fun? ;p
 
4:07 PM
Shooting film is fun. And digital is easy to share.
 
@Bart easy to share is a downside?
#isConfused
 
No, that's why I scan them to digital
 
Surely these days there are digital cameras that give same feeling as the old film camera, and have same quality if not better. No?
 
And indeed, constraints are cool. If I have a roll of 24 or 36 (or in the case of Polaroid stuff very expensive packs of 10) I have to be careful about what I shoot, how I shoot it, etc. And I have no idea if it worked out at all.
 
I'm not into either, just... thinking aloud. :)
 
4:09 PM
It's a bit "why use a pencil, or oil paints, when you can use those as brushes in Photoshop"
 
A few years back, maybe 6? I was fairly broke and couldn't afford a new PC. I picked up a core2duo (which was reasonably obsolete) off a curb and fixed it up - spent a little money on a HDD and a screen, and got it working
and I learnt a lot more than if I'd built a new PC or shudder bought one
 
@Bart art?
 
@ShadowWizard "why use film, if you can do the same/better with digital"
 
4:27 PM
Ask Sonic ;)
 
 
4:38 PM
reminder that "millenials" at this point just means "adults under 40." anytime you hear the first, substitute it for the second, and check if the sentence sounds weird now.
 
There's that weird sub-generation that is exactly 41 years old right now - they had to suffer through modems and line noise like the rest of us in their earlier memories, and probably had three-way-calling enabled on their home phone.
 
@TimPost I'm 35 and... had most of those
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, blacklisted website in answer (178): Fatal Error - While upgrading magento 1.9.3.4 from 1.9.3.3 by jackpeter on magento.SE
 
I'm old enough to remember knowing that my dialup connection went through by sound
 
I'm old enough to have out-typed 300 BPS. I dunno where to draw the cutoff there but there must be a perfect place somewhere.
 
4:43 PM
lol
oldest modem we had was 1200 so I think you win there.
 
My 300 BPS modem had an acoustic coupler, it was an old Tandy model. You had to dial the phone then place it on the modem.
 
I think acousitic couplers were mostly a US thing
something about AT&T not allowing anything but their equipment on their phone lines if memory serves
 
At least I think it was a Tandy, would had to have been, I was using a later model TRS-80 with it. Wait, at least I think it was a TRS-80. I think I did too many drugs in the early 90s. Yup, pretty sure I did too many drugs in the early 90s.
 
I don't have that excuse and I have a chunk of my 20s I don't remember ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek heck, I'm old enough to remember that
 
4:49 PM
Wait, if you have a chunk of your 20s you don't remember, then how do you know?
 
@TimPost its a bit hazy
That was my super bad social anxiety/depression phase
so I remember I watched a lot of bad movies
but nothing of them
 
I miss those days. Running my BBS ... I'd always be delighted when I caught a leecher almost ready to complete a large file over Xmodem and I'd pick up the phone and just start pounding on the keys.
"Line noise, can't help it, sorry ..."
 
0_0
that sounds evil
 
ooh, nice
 
4:58 PM
@Derpy WHAT DID THEY DO TO MY BIRTHDAY?
 

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