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Journeyman Geek

2:44 AM

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and myself

my "morning"'s gone D:

(suddenly afternoon...)

Nog Shine

4:44 AM

since the suspension is only 5 days longer, I personally would just wait it out, whether or not you actually did anything wrong. — sir flip the third 22 mins ago

Seriously?

and myself

The comment's gone though

forest

To be fair, it's totally possible that he didn't create new accounts, e.g. if he's using a proxy or dynamic IP address. I have no idea if that's the case, of course.

Nog Shine

Same happened for me. My IP was blacklisted by a website because I abused something.

forest

I use Tor, but for some reason I never have problems on SE.

Might be because I don't have a low reputation.

Nog Shine

5:00 AM

Quora was hacked. 100M user Data Exposed

forest

Ha

ahahaha that made my day

> account information taken includes names, email addresses, encrypted passwords and data imported from linked networks when users authorise these.

God dammit passwords aren't encrypted, they're hashed!

> Also compromised was non-public content such as answer requests, downvotes and direct messages, d'Angelo said.

loool

Journeyman Geek

@forest eh, there's a certain amount of human intervention with any suspension so chances are someone took a look - and there was a reason for it.

Nog Shine

5:15 AM

@forest Reputation doesn't matter. I know folks who got suspensions despite good rep.

rene

5:36 AM

delv-pls 20K VBA meta.stackexchange.com/questions/319389/… /cc @Bart @ShadowWizard @Glorfindel

afternoon

morning

Morning

o/

in Electrical Engineering on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 14 hours ago, by Drew Fowler

Is there a way to get notified of watched tags?

rene

6:09 AM

@NickAlexeev I don't think that exists.

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Firelord

Hello! Do you guys know of or use a userscript for SE sites where if you post a comment to a Q or A with a link to a Q or A, the link would automatically be wrapped up with Qs title with that hyperlink. I used such a userscript back in 2015, but I don't remember its name, and I have difficulty finding it.

and myself

6

Q: More Share Links (Markdown / HTML / BBCode)

Description: As of 1.04, this now also works with Firefox / Greasemonkey. Adds share links in additional formats, and also lets you omit user ID from links: Features: Adds Markdown, HTML, and BBCode. Option to omit user ID from links (and value is remembered for next time). Reme...

not necessarily 2015 though, but I use that

and it's not automatic, you have to select the format before copying it, but that's better than nothing..

oh, the linked app seems the one you want:

64

Q: SE Comment Link Helper

About This userscript automatically converts raw Stack Exchange question URLs into the form [title](link) before submitting comments by grabbing their titles from the API. This is similar to conversion done natively on posts, and is in response to this Meta request. The script also tries to ...

script comments

Firelord

@andmyself Yep, that is it. Thanks a lot. :D

and myself

no prob

rene

6:49 AM

ping?

and myself

@rene pong!

rene

Hmm, I hoped I could blame the NS wifi for the sloppiness of our website but it turns out it is us ....

Shadow Wizard

7:25 AM

@rene NS? National Security? o_O

@rene KABOOM! 4 hours! Where are the dogs and the parrot?!

Tinkeringbell

I was summoned?

yawn

rene

@ShadowWizard Dutch Railways (Nederlandse Spoorwegen)

Here comes the sun ...

Tinkeringbell

Yay. And I'll be locked up in an office the entire day

rene

well, same here ... soonish

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell sure! I just nuked off topic MSE question... feels like olden times.... :D

Tinkeringbell

7:30 AM

@ShadowWizard Go complain to the dog ;) he's supposed to keep an eye on things in early morning while I try to wake up :P

rene

Train drives slowly to pass the firing range so we are an easier target ...

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell ask Tim where the keys are, then you can fly into freedom! :P

@rene firing range?!

Tinkeringbell

@rene Nice :P

rene

wasn't the dog on night shift?

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell which of the dogs? ;)

rene

7:31 AM

@ShadowWizard it says so on the fence

Tinkeringbell

@rene I dunno? May very well be.

That'd explain why there's no shouting here now ;)

rene

@Tinkeringbell uuuhhh, you wish I got shot at ;)

Tinkeringbell

@rene I didn't say so (out loud)

rene

raises white flags

Tinkeringbell

I kinda like it when the train drives slowly past those.. gives me a chance to peek :P

and myself

7:33 AM

MEW!

no, not that mew...

rene

peeks into the gun barrel of an Howitzer ...

brb, transfer from train to the office.

Tinkeringbell

Pfft. I just made it to the bus. Another fifteen minutes at least before I'm at the office (and can get coffee)

rene

8 minutes walk ....

and myself

panic

and myself

7:59 AM

I don't why I'm listening to Eurobeat right now...

rene

8:11 AM

I'm in and on coffee

Tinkeringbell

I'm in, no coffee, too much co-worker. Coffee is going to be fixed NOW :P

Magisch

no coffee here either, still in fileupload hell

Tinkeringbell

Coffee :D

That's GREEN and TEA....

Way to make me angry!

and myself

:O

Bart

Getting myself coffee. Don't trust these bots and their tea making ways.

Tinkeringbell

8:23 AM

Sounds like a smart idea :)

Smarter than some of the stuff going on here :/

Magisch

Even smarter would be to lay off the caffeine :p

Bart

... did Spotify delete podcasts from their desktop app?

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch I need it. To survive. IF I have to stop the caffeine I'll likely end up with alcohol instead...

Magisch

@Tinkeringbell thought that too, until I laid off of it completly

now I'm roughly at the same level of tiredness/non tiredness as before with caffeine

Tinkeringbell

It's not tiredness... it's that the coffee keeps me focused on something else than anger right now :P

It's a sort of comfort food :P

Magisch

8:35 AM

switch to tea

more tasty & varied

Tinkeringbell

Not over here, they only have 2 or 3 tastes that I don't really like ;) I do drink tea at home a lot ;)

Shadow Wizard

@rene inside coffee? Eww it's sticky!

:P

I made myself only half cup by mistake now... too lazy to go add more water.

@Bart hmm? Context?

@rene pic or it never happened! :D

Bart

@ShadowWizard just wondering out loud. I use Spotify to listen to music and podcasts at work. But apparently the podcasts are gone. Or at least their entry in the menu disappeared.

Shadow Wizard

I was on the other side of shooting range fences many times. ;)

@Bart you mean all of them? Maybe redesign, and they removed the option since nobody used it except you? ;)

Mithrandir

@ShadowWizard I accidentally found myself in a shooting range recently...

Bart

8:40 AM

@ShadowWizard apparently I can still search for them ... bug I guess

Ah, apparently a known bug :/

Shadow Wizard

@Mithrandir ouch... how did you find out? When you was almost shot at? :/

@Bart :(

Post in twitter! :D

Bart

Haha

Mithrandir

8:56 AM

sd k

Shadow Wizard

9:17 AM

Belated Happy Hanukkah to everyone! :D

This year winterbash will be after Hanukkah. :(

(it ends next Monday)

Derpy

morning

Today Calendar joke is offered to you by the Mushroom Kingdom committee

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy such jokes? :D

ɪBᴜɢ

How are blatantly off-topic questions deleted from MSE? By roomba or by humans?

Nog Shine

humans

ɪBᴜɢ

why not roomba?

Journeyman Geek

9:32 AM

@ɪBᴜɢ too slow

ɪBᴜɢ

eh, but why roomba on other sites?

Journeyman Geek

@ɪBᴜɢ roomba isn't the primary mechanism

ɪBᴜɢ

fine

Journeyman Geek

on other sites as well, people need to close it

ɪBᴜɢ

@JourneymanGeek Do you delete such questions in addition to closing?

Journeyman Geek

9:34 AM

but on MSE off topic posts is, well, a pretty high profile problem

@ɪBᴜɢ yes

Nog Shine

People on other sites are not as fast as people on MSE

Journeyman Geek

I close, comment and delete

ɪBᴜɢ

On other sites I often see mods close questions without deleting them directly, there's a difference. What exactly is it?

Journeyman Geek

@ɪBᴜɢ its not as much of an issue there

and there's different reasons for closing

ɪBᴜɢ

different reasons?

Journeyman Geek

9:36 AM

well stuff isn't as off topic

ɪBᴜɢ

Q that can be fixed vs. Q that can never be fixed?

Journeyman Geek

I mean, even programming questions are less out of our ballpark on SU, than it is on MSE

yup

and an implicit goal is to discourage off topic posts from being posted here.

ɪBᴜɢ

that makes sense. Thank you Journeyman

Shadow Wizard

closing @ɪBᴜɢ as off topic ;)

ɪBᴜɢ

flags for moderator attention :D

Nog Shine

9:40 AM

@ShadowWizard casts delete vote. ;)

Shree

R/A for @ShadowWizard comment

Nog Shine

declined

Derpy

@ShadowWizard not exactly. Also, those are called Matryoshka.

Shadow Wizard

eating @ɪBᴜɢ's flag, throwing @Nog's delete vote on @M.A.R., and turning @Shree's R/A flag to a flower

Shree

lol

Shadow Wizard

9:43 AM

:D

Nog Shine

@ShadowWizard you mean changing R/A flag to rene ?

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy links fails to.., link. Too many things are loading after page load in there.

So what did you try to link to?

Derpy

@ShadowWizard ??????

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy oh.... now it links to your answer. Guess cache had to kick in.

@NogShine shhh! Don't wake the flower..... ;)

ɪBᴜɢ

@ShadowWizard turning Shree's R/A flag to @rene ?

Derpy

9:47 AM

@NogShine it is a message from destiny. You are bound to become a cat owner some day.

and myself

cast an R/A ~~flag~~ flower

Shadow Wizard

Haha! @forest here is the user who had animated avatar in the Hot Questions page in the past:

Twisty Impersonator

488 1 5 13

discussion support bug android-app hot-questions mobile-web not-an-answer

You can try asking them in chat how it was done.

Shree

Wherever rene involve I try to hide :P

and myself

anyway, I dunno if it's only me or not, but SE's homepage shows imgur's avatar in 16px...

aka. rene's friends are all over the right sidebar

Bart

@andmyself same here

Nog Shine

9:49 AM

@andmyself known bug

Shadow Wizard

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Q: Let's see the Top Network Askers better

Noticed in my MSE featured questions filter that the avatars of the Top Network Askers are blurry. Quick check showed it's because SE is requesting the 16x16 thumbnail, while having 30x30 size of the image itself, which cause the image to stretch. Changing the requested image to 32x32 makes the...

feature-request stackexchange.com profile-picture

Nog Shine

12

Q: Let's see the Top Network Askers better

Noticed in my MSE featured questions filter that the avatars of the Top Network Askers are blurry. Quick check showed it's because SE is requesting the 16x16 thumbnail, while having 30x30 size of the image itself, which cause the image to stretch. Changing the requested image to 32x32 makes the...

feature-request stackexchange.com profile-picture

Shadow Wizard

lolz

Double Shadow!

and myself

yeah, rene's friends...

Shadow Wizard

@Shree so I better not invite him to Discord too? ;)

Shree

9:51 AM

:D

Shadow Wizard

This reminds me, for long time I thought Jeff founded Discord.... just to find out it was Discourse. lol

waiting for @AndrasDeak to ask "Who's Jeff?"

;)

and myself

Who's Deak?

Shadow Wizard

ceid.hu/about/andras-deak

and myself

WhoAaaAaAAaaAaa....

Shadow Wizard

lol

Shree

10:01 AM

0-0

Shadow Wizard

Though this might be the Other Deak :-P

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Q: Why are O-O and O-O-O symbols used for castling in algebraic notation?

I'm curious about why the O-O and O-O-O symbols are used for castling in algebraic notation? Why not use the consistent and logical Kg1 or Kc1 for white and Kg8 or Kc8 for black? Why adopt the less than obvious O-O and O-O-O from descriptive notation?

notation

You meant this, right? ;)

Shree

:D

Magisch

10:19 AM

Feeling dirty for writing this:

> data.formatFileSize = function(file_size) {
// >= 1GB
if (file_size >= 1073741824) {
return '' + Math.round(((1.0 * file_size) / 1024 / 1024 / 1024) * 100) / 100 + ' GB';
// >= 1MB
} else if (file_size >= 1048576) {
return '' + Math.round(((1.0 * file_size) / 1024 / 1024) * 100) / 100 + ' MB';
// >= 1KB
} else if (file_size >= 1024) {
return '' + Math.round(((1.0 * file_size) / 1024) * 100) / 100 + ' KB';
// < 1KB
} else {
return '1 KB';
}
};

Shadow Wizard

@Magisch I got something for you. Will dig it up soon. ;)

Magisch

I wrote this because I really couldn't be bothered to find out the proper way to display file sizes in a list

ArtOfCode

10:34 AM

@Magisch ['', 'k', 'M', 'G', 'T'][fileSize % 1024]

that'll give you the suffic

wait, no it won't

['', 'k', 'M', 'G', 'T'][Math.floor(Math.floor(Math.log2(fileSize)) / 10)]

there we go

@Magisch here ya go, full function:

function formatFileSize(fileSize) {
    const sizes = ['', 'k', 'M', 'G', 'T'];
    const suffix = sizes[Math.floor(Math.floor(Math.log2(fileSize)) / 10)];
    const orderOfMagnitude = sizes.indexOf(suffix);
    return (fileSize / Math.pow(1024, orderOfMagnitude)).toFixed(2) + ` ${suffix}B`;
}

formatFileSize(987)
=> "987.00 B"
formatFileSize(2077)
=> "2.03 kB"
formatFileSize(5048576)
=> "4.81 MB"
formatFileSize(6073741824)
=> "5.66 GB"
formatFileSize(6073741824492)
=> "5.52 TB"

Magisch

not sure how much better that is

I tend to err on the side of using fewer temp variables

ArtOfCode

uh... why

nowt wrong with em

Magisch

also, the <1024B becoming 1KB regardless is by design

ArtOfCode

10:50 AM

if (fileSize < 1024) { return '1KB' } at the start of it

Magisch

yeah

I wonder from a pattern standpoint, is yours considered strictly better?

ArtOfCode

@Magisch absolutes are hard to deal with, but I'd generally say yes. It's more extensible - if you want petabytes and exabytes you just stick , 'P', 'E'] on the end of the array instead of adding a couple more ifs

and fewer magic numbers

Magisch

I guess in a general sense yeah, but file upload size is hard capped at 2.5gb

unlikely to change

ArtOfCode

fairly obvious what the magic numbers are in your case, but they are magic

shrug you know the task more than I do, so use whichever works better for it :)

Magisch

I wonder, is your logarhitm trick to generate array inidices more readable then a magic number?

ArtOfCode

10:55 AM

shrug

Magisch

the toFixed(2) is significantly more elegant then *100/100 though

ArtOfCode

for me, personally, yes, but that might not apply to everyone and it might not apply to whatever code standards your company has

Magisch

since the latter depends on the interpreter not optimising enough to work

ArtOfCode

@Magisch beware: toFixed returns a string - if you need to do further math on the output, use *100/100 instead

or just stick it at the end of the chain, whatever works better

Magisch

Even with returning a string "1.24" * 2 et al still works

but yeah it's bad practice to do math with strings

ArtOfCode

10:57 AM

yeah... sigh javascript

Magisch

now I kind of wanna revisit my code a lil more

ArtOfCode

Go for it, reviewing your old decisions is a good way to find mistakes

Magisch

This is my quick & dirty way to sanitize file names to work with our super-dumb legacy system (the legacy system using the ms access variant of unescaped eval to handle the files):

> data.sanitizeFileName = function(file_name) {
return file_name
.replace(new RegExp('(\.' + (file_name.split('.').pop()) + ')', 'g'), '')
.replace(/([ \-\,\.\"\'])/g, '_')
.replace(/([+\&])/g, 'u')
.replace(/([äÄ])/g, 'ae')
.replace(/([öÖ])/g, 'oe')
.replace(/([üÜ])/g, 'ue')
.replace(/([ß])/g, 'ss')
.toLowerCase()
+
'.' + file_name.split('.').pop();
};

ArtOfCode

o.o

I'd assign file_name.split('.').pop() to a constant

What's it need to do? Replace the Unicode with ASCII equivalents, obviously. What else?

doppelgreener

is that javascript?

If so there is a normalization feature you can use for accented characters I suggest you take advantage of:

397

A: Remove accents/diacritics in a string in JavaScript

With ES2015/ES6 String.Prototype.Normalize(), const str = "Crème Brulée" str.normalize('NFD').replace(/[\u0300-\u036f]/g, "") > 'Creme Brulee' Two things are happening here: normalize()ing to NFD Unicode normal form decomposes combined graphemes into the combination of simple ones. The è of ...

ArtOfCode

11:07 AM

Does depend what version of JS you can expect, though

doppelgreener

Right. This isn't supported in IE11 for example.

There is however a polyfill for it: github.com/walling/unorm/blob/master/lib/unorm.js

ArtOfCode

If your users are all recent Firefox/Chrome, you're good

Shadow Wizard

@Magisch I found something, part of node.js package I use, so not my own doing:

function convert (b) {
    var tb = ((1 << 30) * 1024), gb = 1 << 30, mb = 1 << 20, kb = 1 << 10, abs = Math.abs(b);
    if (abs >= tb) return (Math.round(b / tb * 100) / 100) + 'tb';
    if (abs >= gb) return (Math.round(b / gb * 100) / 100) + 'gb';
    if (abs >= mb) return (Math.round(b / mb * 100) / 100) + 'mb';
    if (abs >= kb) return (Math.round(b / kb * 100) / 100) + 'kb';
    return b + 'b';
}

Bit more elegant than what you wrote, but same idea.

forest

11:30 AM

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A: What does our long term community need? What does our long term community need to feel valued?

2 years ago, SO the company reached out to the community with this: Let's Plan the Second Iteration of the Stack Exchange Quality Project! That thread is great as it holds all the answers. Really. The majority of the highly up-voted answers can be summarized as: Better quality of questions,...

> Given that the current CEO's only participation on meta since forever was to post a highly controversial, off-topic post about politics in January 2017, start from there - that's not exactly how you lead by example. The post made a whole lot of customers lose further confidence in the company, even among those who agreed with the political, off-topic content.

I thought the CEO was active or something. Was that the old CEO?

Mithrandir

Joel isn't that active

Journeyman Geek

Naw. Joel isn't that active

Magisch

@ArtOfCode can't contain any special character, any control characters, spaces, unicode characters or uppercase letters

forest

Oh, my mistake. I thought I saw him around more. huh

Journeyman Geek

And tbh it's not politics that's the problem

forest

11:35 AM

I know that was just a one-off thing.

Journeyman Geek

>
But what does SO the company do? Completely ignore everything said. Instead the focus during the past 2 years has been mostly peripheral projects like Documentation, Teams, Careers, Developer story, top/bottom/side bars, Welcome Wagons.

and myself

@Magisch looks like a good PPCG question...

Journeyman Geek

That I agree with

forest

Yeah same.

Journeyman Geek

And that a few key parts of the community have been neglected

forest

11:37 AM

And bug reports ignored, etc.

John Dvorak

@andmyself nah, more like a trivial regex

Journeyman Geek

Well if we mean bugs in site mechanics...

forest

Well like the bug I was telling you about before with small monitors or windows.

I think I told you at least, where it squishes everything obscenely flat?

Magisch

The legacy system using the filenames is using some weird as hell system for daisy-chaining cmd.exe calls to multiple custom scripts that all don't properly escape their stuff either

@JourneymanGeek That's a function of the CM team being at least 3 people smaller then it ought to be though

forest

lol

Journeyman Geek

11:42 AM

@Magisch yup

But that is probably going to need upper level buy in to fix

Magisch

not likely

Journeyman Geek

I mean, it's not like there is any lack of quality - and it would be a pretty meaningful gesture

forest

It'd certainly help regain lost trust.

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch well idk what the internal conversations there are

Magisch

Yeah but from reading between the lines recently and with what Jon said about meta some time ago it seems like that the core userbase isn't exactly popular with management and staff in general right now

forest

11:46 AM

Here's my worry: In the new Meta post, everyone is saying the profiles are fine as they are, or require only very trivial changes, and are even begging not to have it changed drastically. I have this nagging feeling that, after a little while, a new Meta post will come up thanking us profusely for our feedback but massively changing profiles in a way that everyone hates (and complains about for weeks).

Due to SE's lost trust so far, I'm getting that sentiment from a lot of people.

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch well - funny thing is I get the opposite

That they realize that things are pretty bad

And there's been a fair bit of management turnover

Magisch

@JourneymanGeek I'm no insider and not very good at recognizing intent in general but there is no ambiguity that the core userbase is viewed as problematic & uncooperative by staff right now

forest

Which is unfortunate, since the core userbase literally makes up the site.

Magisch

This is especially true because a seemingly vocal part of it does not share in the personal politics that a lot of the employees share (nothing wrong with that, it's just an observation)

Shadow Wizard

@Magisch I think they (we?) are considered as bunch of noisy people who complain a lot. Not sure it's bad. :)

Without complaining and making noise, nothing will be done as we want it to be done. No?

Magisch

11:50 AM

and with how divisive & polarized politics is getting lately and because stack is not an echo chamber and really diverse in terms of viewpoints, there's a lot of "undesirable" viewpoints represented

forest

There'd be less complaining if staff took in feedback. :P

@Magisch What do you mean? There's not a lot of politics on SE.

Mithrandir

Eh, I'd tend to agree with JMG that SE is seeing how little trust people have in them at the moment and are working to remedy it

Magisch

I hope that's true but I can easily see a EA-type "You're all wrong and uneducated and we won't stand for that" kind of response coming if things blow up again

forest

inb4 Stack Exchange Inc. is acquired by Activision.

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch it's worth looking at it at another perspective

A few years back -. Q&A was basically a functional, finished product. Communities were mostly self running with minimal need for intervention

Stuff worked then

Magisch

11:55 AM

But it's not all doom & gloom. With or without top level management buy in, we have MSE mods now, the site is still pretty good overall, there haven't been any catastrophic changes, and even considering all recent drama it's still remarkably drama free overall

Journeyman Geek

But well you actually need to maintain community relations

And that's been a bit of a fail

forest

Eventually, a pissed off community reaches criticality and explodes, even if it, at the moment, is relatively calm and just grumbling about being screwed over.

Journeyman Geek

We kinda had a more efficient system for normal stuff that breaks down during exceptions

And dosen't have a good pre-emptive feedback loop

John Dvorak

You still have better PR than Blizzard :P

Journeyman Geek

We have good folks

Magisch

11:58 AM

we have good CMs

nobody of us knows senior management and/or most of the devs

forest

@JohnDvorak But Blizzard doesn't pretend to be accepting feedback like SE. :P

They're honest about hating their customers.

Magisch

not disputing that they too might be really good (probably are) but we have no way of knowing

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch yup

But also there were much fewer

And the PMs. Poor chaps :p

forest

>probably are

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch I'd actually like to see more CMs. And kinda oddly maybe a few from outside our core userbase

Magisch

12:03 PM

@ArtOfCode I'm curious about your opinion on ternary expressions in javascript, e.g a ? : a : 'not a' vs if (a) { a } else { 'not a' }, because my coworkers really champion them (eg use them everywhere you concievably can, to the point of sometimes layering them within each other)

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch well they are probably kick-ass devs but they don't decide what's the next priority

From what I grok - the project managers have a lot more weight there

forest

Kick-ass devs who don't know how to modify a simple stylesheet and have to lie to us about what is easy and what is hard to maintain? O_o

Journeyman Geek

I don't think Joe had a good experience on meta thought

forest

I mean devops is probably not useless. It's not like the site goes down a lot...

Journeyman Geek

@forest see. You have trouble with the concept of assume good intentions...

forest

12:06 PM

I assume their intentions are good. I just don't have faith in their competence.

Journeyman Geek

Heh. The SRE team is vaguely verging on legendary actually

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek ?

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard The guy who runs it basically wrote the book on being a sysadmin. Literally. And used to run Google's SRE team

Magisch

@forest I'm pretty sure you're not seeing the full picture on that

forest

@Magisch All I'm seeing is staff claiming that it's too difficult to maintain custom vote icons, when it turns out the vote icons are part of the same image resource as custom badges (which we do get to keep).

Shadow Wizard

12:18 PM

@JourneymanGeek Tanya Reilly?

ArtOfCode

@Magisch good things, but not to be overused

if they take up more than one line or are nested, you should probably use an if/else instead

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard Tom Limoncelli

Mithrandir

My current strategy for keeping my hands warm is to take a hot drink. Unfortunately, I tend to drink hot drinks relatively quickly. This maaaay mean that I have had way too much sugar and caffeine today...

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek oh. But he's not new.... quite the opposite. Unless I miss something here?

@Mithrandir caffeine free tea, with no sugar. Problem solved. ;)

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard nope

Mithrandir

12:32 PM

No sugar?! What blasphemy is this?

Shadow Wizard

Journeyman Geek

But in general they're a good, fairly competent bunch

Shadow Wizard

@Mithrandir eat a waffle instead. Or a cookie. ;)

Mithrandir

I haven't had waffles in like eight years

Shadow Wizard

@Mithrandir so time you'll have them again! :D

Mithrandir

12:34 PM

They're impossible to find here...

Shadow Wizard

Hard to believe... any market has them.

Journeyman Geek

Actually I don't have any major complaints outside the old marketing team

Mithrandir

Any market in Tel Aviv, maybe... not in the Golan.

Shadow Wizard

@Mithrandir surely there are in markets in Kiryat Shmone... just go there, buy a stock, and you're done. :D

Mithrandir

Eh... a lot of work for a waffle.

Shadow Wizard

12:39 PM

lol

sending a waffle to @Mithrandir using a drone

Mithrandir

watches as the military blows up the drone

Shadow Wizard

trying again, this time painting Israel flag on the drone

Shadow Wizard

12:57 PM

plz-delete authorization server meta.stackexchange.com/questions/319416/… @Bart @rene @Glorfindel

Journeyman Geek

"I have become death, destroyer of ~~worlds~~ ~~homework~~ posts"

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Bart

I'm doing something wrong. During the day, I have all these ideas of stuff to do when I get out of work. But when I get out, I no longer have motivation, and all these work-related ideas of stuff to try. :D

Journeyman Geek

lol

sounds like all of us

doppelgreener

Same

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