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12:03 PM
Well duh, it's supposed to catch your eye.
 
If they're attractive, cry sexism. If they're ugly, cry sexism.
It makes no sense.
Especially with a grand sample size of two images from a set which, like most weight loss ads, contain a mix of both men and women.
 
ok, leave those account there if they are appropriate. But I think no one will argue that this one needs to go (warning: probably NSFW)
 
Well they're obviously spam accounts so
 
12:08 PM
yep, but as the dog can tell you, we already noticed that being spam account is not enough to get them removed if they don't post and just link spam in their profile
so we just limit ourselves to report only the most offensive cases.
 
huh, didn't know that
So I can put a shit ton of spam in my profile and it's totally fine as long as I don't spam in posts? :P
 
@forest basically. If you are interested, start reading from here:
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Q: Spam Profiles are getting my goat. Could we have better tools for mods to deal with profile spam?

Journeyman GeekSuper User got hit by another batch of spammers creating profiles. They've got accounts on other sites from what I've heard from other mods and from the comments here. Last time it was streaming. Now it's insurance sales... with phone numbers (as of december, looks like they're spamming scammy f...

The point is that the perceived damage potential is still low compared to other form of abuse, so moderation force tends to focus on other more urgent issues
obviously, that is rapidly subverted if for example the user avatar is NSFW, offensive etc...
 
I always hold back so hard with trying to use a subtly offensive avatar.
 
I said that before: it is very lucky that SE avatars are resized and not cropped.
 
I'll usually delete spam profiles when I come across them.
 
12:18 PM
One of the pleasures of being a mod... deleting spammers ;)
 
I can only imagine what creative users would do if you could upload a bigger picture and have the avatar only display a "crop rectangle".
Trust me, I reported users who have tried that trick on other sites.
 
heh
I've probably been one of the users you've reported lmao
 
@Derpy you don't even need that to be creative. There's plenty of innocent stuff that, when scaled down to SE avatar size, manages to set off dirty minds ;)
 
Fun stats: 10,000 people per year report being bitten by a spider in the USA. 400,000 people per year report being bitten by a cat in the USA, and it's suspected many more cases go unreported. Now tell me, which of the two is more rational to be afraid of?
 
If I recall, the CDC once called the domestication of cats the worst idea humanity ever came up with do to their propensity to spread lethal diseases.
 
12:23 PM
@JohnDvorak Just being bitten in general? :P
 
@JohnDvorak conditionally the spider, as they can be venomous. Usually neither
 
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I'd much rather get bitten by a spider than a cat.
 
@Magisch Yet the cat is likely to carry nasty diseased too... :/
 
Spiders rarely care disease, they're just venomous (and often only slightly).
Cats on the other hand...
 
12:27 PM
Often spider bites don't contain venom even if they come from venomous spiders. The spider is trying to make you aware of its presence, and they know that angering humans goes contrary to their chances of survival.
 
@forest on that one think @Derpy meant the text being NSFW, not the picture.
@Tinkeringbell is it same pleasure as eating something tasty IRL? ;)
 
ah
I didn't even read the text. Too spammy.
 
@ShadowWizard Nah, seeing all those spammers makes you run for comfort food though :P
Moderating is really bad for your diet :P
 
@JohnDvorak the part of why on earth would people report such things?
 
@JohnDvorak Even when they do contain venom, they contain a very small dose. The spider wants to save it all for creatures that they need to eat. Of course, some very young spiders will inject the entire dose, which is why black widows are more dangerous when they're young than when they're adults.
 
12:30 PM
you got a bite, treat yourself... no?
Unless I miss something here? lol
 
@ShadowWizard If I got bitten by the neighbors cat, I'd report it to get the cat killed.
 
Same with snakes (though snakes can afford to inject more venom...)
Well that's evil
 
And then there's the people ending up in hospitals with bites.. .that's a form of reporting too ;)
 
@Tinkeringbell killed?? It's a cat. He does it as part of playing...
 
@ShadowWizard I was thinking more of being bitten if I wasn't playing with the cat.
 
12:31 PM
If stray cat I can understand, but domestic cats? Not really...
 
People love their cats. Sometimes people just need to make them indoor cats.
 
The cat can go play in heaven
 
@ShadowWizard now tell me again that humans are the only species that hurt others for fun
 
@Tinkeringbell so, moderating while eating ice cream? Sounds like fun! :D
 
That's an old tired myth.
Many, many creatures do that. It's part of intelligence.
 
12:32 PM
@ShadowWizard Where do you think that constant chocolate craving comes from ;)
 
Humans aren't even the only species that wage war. We're just a little more organized and methodological than most other species which do... Also we got guns.
 
@JohnDvorak cat has no idea he's hurting, when playing. Human does.
@forest what? Eating ice cream? ;)
 
Unless the human doesn't either.
 
@ShadowWizard Not to mention, a cat biting when not playing is its way of saying "you're scaring me, bugger off". Reporting it to get it killed for its inability to politely ask you to stop is... cruel beyond measure.
 
@JohnDvorak kids?
 
12:33 PM
or mentally ill
 
hmm
Problem is with those who fake mental illness to evade arrest.
 
@forest If any animal that belongs to someone bites me without reason, I'll report it, as it doesn't belong on the streets. If any animal that doesn't belong to anyone does that, I'll take care of it myself ;)
Animals aren't supposed to bite.
 
Reporting it to get it brought inside is one thing. Reporting it to get it killed...
 
@Tinkeringbell Hence the teeth
 
o.o someone here really love cats
 
12:34 PM
And yeah if an animal is attacking you, self defense is fine.
Even if you kill it. But doing it when you're totally safe? Just cruel.
@ShadowWizard People have been doxed and swatted before for insulting cats on the internet. It's not just ancient Egyptians who hold cats in the highest regards.
 
Sounds reasonable ...
 
@Tinkeringbell nope: I meant that some sites let the user save a bigger image for its avatar, then only display a smaller section of that. The final result is that the site uses css to only display a smaller rectangle of a bigger image that still gets loaded.
 
@forest I think I already clarified that remark before: I'm talking about animals I'm not interacting with, random bites. Those should be reported, and the animal taken care of.
 
@Tinkeringbell The problem is if you're doing it for someone else's cat.
As opposed to a stray.
Cats randomly bite for 1) play, and 2) because you scare them.
They have literally no other way of expressing themselves.
Especially if they're declawed (which makes them more afraid).
 
@forest Honestly, that shouldn't matter. If someone else has a cat and isn't taking care that it can't bite me, I will take care that it won't bite me again.
 
12:36 PM
And now I'm for certain I'm not getting a cat.
 
You have a very cruel and uncaring personality.
 
@forest never had a cat, but declawing sounds so cruel
 
I wonder if you're capable of empathizing with those who have lost loved pets.
 
@Derpy think I saw somewhere that it can be done with actual image, to save it in a way it's showing something but with certain software, you can see the actual image, usually bigger version.
 
@Tinkeringbell So, suppose you have a NSFW image, the user "crop" it to only display a smaller, apparently innocent square. But the full image is still loaded.
 
12:37 PM
@Bart It is extremely cruel. Cats rely on their claws for defense. Not having them forces them to rely only on their teeth (which some people apparently will use as an excuse to get them killed).
 
@ShadowWizard that is a whole different thing.
 
Of course, but related. People can send hidden messages this way. :)
 
@Tinkeringbell (assuming you're talking about felis cattus (common housecat) only, then not really)
 
@Derpy Oh yeah, that'd be a problem ;)
 
@Tinkeringbell Be wary with the last part of that claim, it is a fast way to get into serious troubles in many states/countries.
 
12:39 PM
This reminds me, if someone tries enough times, they can make animated image be seen as their avatar.
 
@Derpy And in trouble with the owner of the pet, which is not uncommon.
 
@ShadowWizard the animated avatars on SE?
 
@Derpy It seems I'm either incapable of expressing myself today, or people aren't really listening to me. I'll drop the topic.
 
I sure hope so. I'd love it if I was merely misunderstanding you.
In which case I take back my questioning of your capability to empathize with others.
 
I think I might win on the "weird animal bites" front... I got bitten by a squirrel
 
12:44 PM
@forest that would be nice, yes
 
@ArtOfCode Small ray.
 
Frog.
 
At the aquarium :/
 
Tried feeding it a dragonfly. It grabbed the dragonfly, and my fingers.
 
@Derpy sometimes imgur fails to produce proper thumbnail. In such case, the original image is being served.
 
12:44 PM
Frogs actually have surprisingly strong bites (but no sharp teeth).
 
That one was nasty, because even though we cleaned it, it got a bit infected :( And it really was nothing worse than a paper cut.
 
@Tinkeringbell Ouch
 
also, animated gifs can be used to do what you said, @Derpy, since they show only the first still image as the avatar.
e.g. this:
 
@ShadowWizard not to me.
 
@ArtOfCode I think they now no longer allow the general public to feed the rays ;)
 
12:46 PM
I spent the rest of that afternoon in hospitals waiting for tests and shots... also not fun :)
 
onebox bug: it ignores image querystring
 
woah trippy
 
@ArtOfCode Oh, that's indeed not fun!
rabies?
 
Rabies and tetanus
 
Ah, the tetanus shots are nasty, I've been told
 
12:47 PM
I was due for an update on the tetanus anyway, so hey, small victories
 
@Derpy you need to try like 100 times.... I didn't try myself, but in theory it probably can be abused.
 
So wait, you can actually make animated gifs works as avatars if you try a lot?
 
I think my tetanus is out of date. But I'm not in a job that requires me to have it anyways ;)
 
@Tinkeringbell Really? Mine was really easy. Didn't even hurt for a week afterwards like shots usually do
 
@forest in theory... maybe. imgur might have improved their code by now.
 
12:48 PM
@ArtOfCode Yeah, my brother got his tetanus updated before he started his current job and had a sore spot for weeks, if you believe him :P
 
I gotta script that and see if it works.
 
I'm now thinking it may have been a bit of attention seeking XD
 
Best bit about it was confusing everyone at work. Leave work, come back 10 minutes later with a hand covered in blood and a story about a squirrel...
 
@Tinkeringbell I will only say that near where I live there is a street that is pretty famous for having wild boars visit the houses trash bins. Some persons were attacked by those boars. That didn't stop anyone to give a fine to those who fought back and tried to hunt/kill those boars. But yep, probably missunderstood
 
@forest if it does, report on MSE and ask to totally disable .gif for avatars.
No real need to support it anyway...
 
12:49 PM
@Derpy There's boars over here too, but if they attack you usually a forrester will take care of them.
 
@ShadowWizard If it does, I'll have a lot of fun with it.
 
@forest AAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
 
Just careful not to get yourself IP blocked. @forest
 
It's the one wild animal over here that scares me though, boars. Especially the ones that have little ones.
 
I don't use a single IP.
 
12:50 PM
@Bart it's like cutting off your fingers at the knuckles
 
@forest so careful not to get suspended, SE developers might not like it.
 
Is there a ratelimit for avatar changes?
@ShadowWizard I can re-read the ToS but I'm pretty sure it's fine.
 
@forest guess you're going to find out.... lol
 
As long as I don't bypass ratelimits and the like.
 
@forest it's CoS, not ToS.
Common Sense.
 
12:51 PM
Feb 12 at 11:52, by Derpy
do you need to re-enable animated avatar? I should still have the required user-script
 
"don't hammer a site with too many requests."
 
Common sense tells me that it's fine, as long as I don't make it offensive or attempt to disrupt the service by uploading at an extreme rate.
 
@ShadowWizard already asked long ago.
 
Well... just know I warned you. :) @forest
 
Okay... reality check: It is a bad idea to have a list of possible error codes in your code just for 'automated wiki writing' purposes, right?!
 
12:52 PM
@ShadowWizard I'll try to keep it at under one per second. :P
 
@Tinkeringbell eeeh... maybe, maybe not
 
@Tinkeringbell umm.. depends? Context?
 
No way that would hammer the site with requests.
 
@Tinkeringbell depends on how they're used later on
 
Unless the site is running on a calculator.
 
12:52 PM
@forest yeah.... should be fine.
 
it is much simpler than that.....
much, much simpler
 
we have common error codes for shared functions so the devs know roughly what happened when relying on foreign code
 
418 is a great one.
 
@ShadowWizard I could expedite it and use my botnet to try and upload a million images a second. There's no way that would violate the ToS! ;)
 
@forest that would be seen as DDoS attack and hopefully lead to your suspension. aka don't do that.
 
12:54 PM
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@ShadowWizard Building some rules, that should make sure no-one is going to register geo spatial objects that don't meet certain requirements. Now there's a few things that can go wrong, like 'no_name', 'no_date' (but a bit more complicated). Co-worker (the 'nice' one) wants me to add a list of those possible error_codes to the code (so hard code them)... Just so he can run a script on that code/class that turns out that info for the wiki page we also have to write...
 
hehe.com
 
lol.rtf
 
I find it stupid, because it doesn't make sense to write that down hard-code. If something changes it's just another thing you have to remember to change, especially as no code will break if you don't.
And I don't see how it's less work to write it down in the code instead of in the wiki.
In the end, you're writing stuff down.
 
@Tinkeringbell Documentation is important
 
12:55 PM
@Tinkeringbell not sure I follow, but sounds like attempt to document/explain possible errors? Can't see harm in that?
 
you can learn about how Smokey's privileges work by reading the code, but good luck
 
"self-documenting code"
 
@ShadowWizard that is still supposed to be an attempt at getting animated avatars back??
 
@ArtOfCode Oh, I know... that's what we have the wiki's for, descriptive error names and code comments.
 
depends on how your wiki works
 
12:56 PM
@Derpy milion images per second? No.
 
This will be really like adding a List<String> of possible error codes to the class though, without any further info, and without the class actually ever using it :/
 
in my company the wiki isn't human editable, it builds itself from // @description and similar tags in a fixed format in the code itself
 
@Magisch Yeah, ours is nicely manually.
 
@Tinkeringbell Adding them to the class doesn't sound useful, but documenting them certainly does.
 
@ShadowWizard nope, sorry, I didn't mean that. I mean... you still discussing about how to see animated avatars?
 
12:57 PM
@ShadowWizard I actually don't think I could achieve a million per second anyway...
 
@ArtOfCode Yeah, so that's what I needed the reality check for. Co-worker wants me to add them to the class..
 
@Tinkeringbell they should go in some common class, that can be used by all others.
 
I don't have that many.
 
yeah, if they're not going to get used in the code there's not much point adding them to it
 
And it kinda goes against whatever knowledge I have about maintainable code etc.
 
12:59 PM
@Derpy oh. Yep. More like "ways to upload image so that imgur fails to create proper thumbnail, thus storing original image as thumbnail", which would lead to animation showing.
 
@ShadowWizard you both didn't list a word I said, right?
 
adding an array somewhere in the code that does nothing and is only there for an external piece of code to read it sounds really shoddy
like eval abuse levels of shoddy
 
@Derpy too many people chatting, might have missed it.
 
@Magisch Thanks. That was the validation I was after :P
 

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