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12:00 AM
Oh
One deleted answer
 
@JourneymanGeek Link?
 
With a deleted post
 
How come it doesn't show in 10k tools?
 
Eh. It was an answer to an OT question
Nothing to bother about
 
Oh, I see it now. It was a deleted answer with +1/-2 score
 
12:01 AM
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog self deleted probably
(the question)
 
oh, so the question should appear in the 10k tools.
 
@JourneymanGeek Could you please use your mod tools to check if it's a possible sock puppet? Something tells me that it could be a sock puppet of a user who was recently suspended network-wide (hint: they were long-term-active on the site and had a penchant for reporting lots of security bugs).
 
...
You know... you don't always have to tell everyone how to do their jobs...
 
Well, you could just flag. @Sonic
Anyway..... agree it's fishy. That account is 100% sock of a long time user, but nothing really indicates what you implied.
If clean sock, better leave it alone and maybe keep an eye.
 
12:35 AM
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog If it smells off to me, I'd check
Don't forget, assume good intent.
 
morning
 
While I'm averse to plugging my own posts...
meta.stackexchange.com/a/319326/135565 I have no issues with pointing out someone elses post is brilliant
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog @ShadowWizard there's absolutely nothing that indicates a sock there
 
1:32 AM
hah
@rene someone R/A flagged meta.stackexchange.com/a/319300/135565
I can see both sides. Maybe we can change mangled to "spell things differently"?
 
2:11 AM
Morning ._.
 
 
1 hour later…
3:12 AM
yay
 
The (i/I)nternet... drama?
 
apparently
though I get the feeling there's a little more to it.
also. I have abooooot 40k rep. I'm amused people think I get upset when I get downvoted. I have 4 downvotes for the other answer I posted yesterday
 
3:27 AM
Hm.. what else did I miss on weekends...
 
3:42 AM
Most of my drama seems work related lol
but then again, I think I might actively looking for another job in jan
If things work out, I have time (since I'm clearing my off and leave). If they don't - I'm getting denied off and leave, and that's a red light ;p
 
Hope for the best...
 
if nothing else - I have time. Its very hard to get people who're willing to work shifts apparently + are local and the main thing I need to do is avoid getting promoted by attrition...
 
Moreover, irregular day/night shifts...
 
@andmyself yup
and boring work + its fairly high stress
 
that sucks dude.... gl on the search i guess
 
4:00 AM
@Quill on the other hand, I can't really quit during the first year/contract so timing is essential
I want to basically be in a situation where I don't sign a new contract + I know I have a new job up shortly after - and my contract ends april
 
damn.... sounds like surgical timing
 
yup
I'm guessing a month of applications - so late jan to feb, use march to actually interview
my contract ends early april
In theory I don't think a new contract has the early termination clause.
 
4:13 AM
There's a few other things but its not something to mention on open chat ;)
there's a lot of ... things going on at the company I work for (eventually)
 
4:37 AM
Oh, right, it's already Decemberrr!
 
i'm excited.....
 
And then, there's this...
-4
Q: Would it be nice with a site for debugging?

kluttSometimes I have thought that it would be nice with a site aimed at debugging code. While many of the questions would fit on Stackoverflow, this would have a slightly different approach. I'm thinking that on SO, you typically ask for a solution. On this site you instead ask for how to debug it. ...

 
Isn't that like, exactly what SO is for?
 
very scientific
 
4:53 AM
@forest methinks, the OP is confused.. as I presume, there is never going to be a site for "how to debug it" questions, as it leads to the same problem we face with SO today, blatant dump of unrelated code.
Code review is for working code, so that's different.
 
yup
 
Even after the debugging effort, if the expected outcome is not achieved, and searching and researching also did not produce a result...then it might be worth posting on SO.. but "how to debug it"..nah...I don't think so.
 
5:09 AM
@SouravGhosh actually that's a conversation we have often.
Troubleshooting is one of those really grey areas when it comes to great questions
that's to say, its often on topic, but broad, but SE's Q&A platform isn't a good place to go "try this! What about this!"
 
5:26 AM
@JourneymanGeek ditto.
 
@JourneymanGeek this is the real problem on Android.SE with fragmentation many flavors of Android devices & ROMs...
 
6:14 AM
Morning!
 
o/
 
@andmyself probably just as bad on SU :)
 
7:07 AM
22 messages moved to Chimney | Housekeeping
 
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Post 1: Already recently reported [ MS ]
 
!!/watch shenchong\.com
 
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog That pattern looks like it's already caught by Potentially bad keyword in body and Potentially bad keyword in answer; append -force if you really want to do that.
 
@JourneymanGeek well..... to be honest, I believe that if it's who Sonic thinks it is, he can easily dodge anything SE got, surely what the mod tools offer. I'm still not sure enough it's him to justify escalation of that, there's still no harm done, but just saying that whatever tools you got, I'm pretty sure they're not relevant in this case. :)
 
7:15 AM
@ShadowWizard other than the mod specific things - it dosen't 'feel' like him
Most folks have quirks in the way the write which are a vague givaway
and quite honestly if he did come back, with that decade long suspension, I'd probably want to pass it over to the team, who can better handle it.
 
@JourneymanGeek well he did have several ways of writing when in different... periods/state of mind. We can't know for sure. Heck, even Evan has totally different writing style in MSE compared to other sites where he's not trolling. But still... better wait and keep an eye open before calling escalating.
 
@ShadowWizard and not be paranoid
I've handled a few persistant trolls and really it dosen't help to jump at shadows
 
hehe don't jump at me! :P
 
7:33 AM
@SmokeDetector k
 
@JourneymanGeek I (somehow) like to write with (superfluous) parentheses?
 
Jolly good
but Its sometimes nothing that obvious
 
7:50 AM
@andmyself good. Now after you'll get yourself suspended network wide we'll know when you're back trying to bypass that. :D
(wait, but I do it too... so...)
(are you my sock without me knowing it? Or..... am I your sock?! head spins)
 
shog puppet!
 
lurks
 
@andmyself I'm #5
Who are the other 8?
(@Nog is #1, duh)
 
@ShadowWizard they are not puppets. It is Shog himself multiplied into 9. They got sucked up into Wormhole and are waiting in R'lyeh.
They tried to come back here during a change in planetary movement but sent back.
2
 
@_@
 
7:57 AM
@ShadowWizard Wait, you don't know the origin?
 
@NogShine rofl. Forgot it. Hilarious! :D
@NogShine real origin of the 9? Nope. Or forgot, as I usually do. :/
 
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A: Time for some more swag!

Nog ShineArgh! It's too late, a hundred particpants have submitted their entries before me. I think I should use a Time Machine and travel back in time and write something for the contest. Speaking of which, this reminds me of my good friend. (Not Josh, another one). Once upon a time, there lived a fun...

 
Great... after I open that link, your answer got pushed instantly due to those large images...
 
@JourneymanGeek no
 
hm, ok
 
8:04 AM
@andmyself Images? where?
 
@JourneymanGeek if it gets a new flag after my edit you're free to nuke it.
 
@rene I'll wait for that edit then ;)
 
to flag or not to flag... that is the question
 
@Tinkeringbell nah, just those images on answers :)
 
@andmyself Ah, those images :P I'm sorry. I wrote one with images too :(
 
8:06 AM
@rene looks better to me
 
Really? He's so blurry...
 
@JourneymanGeek Or nuke it now. You're the moderator, we rely on your judgement. I've had R/A flags declined by Shog9 where he left me message telling me he understood my concern. I can live with that but I'm not sure if every r/a flagger will be that lenient
 
CS Theory.SE is so desperate about their meta that their Twitter bot posted some meta posts, asking for public to answer it...
 
@rene I actually symphatise with the sentiment ;p
 
everybody should
 
8:09 AM
On the other hand, the hard part is finding that middle ground, and well, having a word with folks helps ;p
 
@andmyself meta.stackexchange.com/q/118055/369802 Seems like a known problem ;)
 
lolz... I might buy Mate SE soon. ;)
 
Back here
I hope this was the last "flu" of the year
 
$296 appears to be pretty cheap for that.
@Derpy achoo!
How pony flu looks like?
 
8:18 AM
neight fun!
 
@Derpy Only 28 days to go :D
 
@andmyself so, you didn't read that answer? I just saw someone posted a large image of their tattoo :S
 
Someone elses tattoo
 
@NogShine hopefully on hand? (not other body part ;))
@JourneymanGeek so that's not eligible for the reward... same as just posting link to something.
(which is not yours)
 
@ShadowWizard probably better to let a CM decide there - especially when it comes to contests
 
8:25 AM
@JourneymanGeek That looks almost spammy to me ;)
 
@Tinkeringbell how/why?
 
@JourneymanGeek Those links!
To that site.
 
@Tinkeringbell Yes that's what I thought but that user is established on other sites. Can't be a real spammer.
 
@Tinkeringbell its kinda vaguely halfassed
but people sometimes do that for swag
(myself included, even if it was original ;p)
 
@NogShine Hmm. That might be true...
Just forget I said anything :)
 
8:28 AM
@JourneymanGeek thats probably why its limited to 25 people
 
@JourneymanGeek Yup. Flagged.
(also semi NSFW though this can be fixed with edit)
 
@ShadowWizard Ugh, now I'll be looking at a flag I can't handle :P
 
@Tinkeringbell too late! Now it's imprinted in our memory for all eternity! :D
 
Huh, what's nsfw about that?
 
@Tinkeringbell pass it to a CM... isn't there "forward" option? ;)
@forest half naked man
 
8:30 AM
@ShadowWizard naw
its the same flag pool
 
Naked? O_o
 
@ShadowWizard I'll time travel back and fix it ;)
 
It's a rib tattoo.
 
@JourneymanGeek so time for feature request! ;)
 
we just ignore any flags we arn't sure we can handle
 
8:30 AM
@forest no shirt is half naked, yes.
 
It's a dude.
 
(which is uncommon, and likely to be a much smaller list over time)
 
I mean it's a stupid post but I fail to see anything offensive about it.
 
There was something like that as 404 page of a site, people asked it to be removed, and after some years it was removed. @forest
 
@Tinkeringbell Perhaps a regular comment linking "How not to be a spammer"?
 
8:31 AM
@forest offensive != NSFW. I don't think my boss would be happy if I were staring at naked torso's during work time ;)
 
Would your boss want you to stare at clock designs during work time?
 
@forest me too, don't get me wrong! But on this site we better go with the most sensitive folks first.
 
freaking puritans lol
 
So I read a really good article from someone who's a former camgirl and has some stuff related to that.
 
8:32 AM
@forest Ssssh! :P
But that illustrates the point: The whole contest is NSFW, but not offensive ;)
 
@ShadowWizard I read it as Half naked forest man and then corrected. 🙈
 
inb4 "but I work for timex!"
 
its all text but there's entirely a risk you'd be reading about the camgirl trade, and at least one NSFW link if you wander off.
I'd still warn ;p
 
@NogShine lol!!
 
I remember a question about camgirls on Sec.SE that was fine.
If it were Meta, people would be freaking out...
all dem sensitivities
 
8:35 AM
@forest well, different people have different things they are uncomfortable with
 
Anyway.... this alone does not justify flag or deletion. I flagged because it's not original work.
 
a european might have less tolerant view on, say guns than nudity
 
Yep, like bare ankles.
 
Full nudity of course does deserve instant nuking.
 
Depends on how it's presented. I've seen it on I think Movies.SE
In proper context.
 
8:36 AM
Though when it's "only" painting it falls back to gray zone.
 
On the other hand, we're adults and can totally deal with things with a certain degree of nuance
 
@ShadowWizard I think the Chronos ASCII post has a naked Chronos ;)
 
@forest only if link with clear warning. If it's out in the open, flag.
 
Sometimes I wonder...
@ShadowWizard Yeah it was.
 
@JourneymanGeek umm...... no we're not all adults here. Some are 13... many are 16, including mods. That's not considered adult. :)
 
8:37 AM
eh, it's close enough
 
@ShadowWizard oh. more in terms of "being sensitive to others"
 
13 is considered adult in many cultures :P
 
@Mithrandir You're still not allowed to enter sites marked 18+ ;)
 
@ShadowWizard I can guarantee you most 13 year olds are less sensitive and puritan than many of the people here.
 
heh
 
8:37 AM
@Mithrandir only by religion, not by state laws. :)
 
technicalities
 
Honestly the same is true even with 7 year olds but that's just because internet...
@ShadowWizard Nah, it's true for state laws in some countries.
 
Maybe @Bart knows
 
I think my wording could be better ;p
 
"We're all mature enough folks here to deal with things in a nuanced manner, depending on context"
 
8:39 AM
yup
 
that ^^
 
Don't worry... just now we had an NSFW HNQ on Anime.SE
 
@Mithrandir Who're you calling mature? :(
 
@andmyself I feel sorry for the mods ;p
 
8:40 AM
throws tantrum I don't want to be mature!
 
@ShadowWizard what?
 
You're a parrot, you're exempt
 
Congratulations: NSFW in a Hot Network Question. :) — CÅ“ur 6 hours ago
 
What question?
Inb4 Anime.SE gets banned from HNQ.
 
I think it's already dropped from HNQ?
 
8:41 AM
@andmyself Next stop twitter.
 
Also, being oversensitive over people being sensitive...
 
@Bart is 13 legal age by state laws?
 
@ShadowWizard "State"?
In the US? Mexico? What?
 
@andmyself you mean this? The answer just contains NSFW stuff hidden behind spoiler block.
 
As in EU countries? Then no. 18 is in most. I think only Scotland has 16?
 
8:42 AM
@forest any state in the world. @Bart is smart. :D
 
And well, for those who says "anime/cartoon/manga/comic is only for kids" are certainly wrong
 
No, Germany is 16 for adulthood, 14 for age of consent, and like...
I forget what it is for owning a business.
 
@ShadowWizard I didn't say the title is NSFW :p
 
I think that's also 16.
 
@andmyself question content is totally fine too. :)
 
8:42 AM
Lots of places define adulthood differently for different purposes.
 
@ShadowWizard Before GDPR, you had to be 13 for stuff like Facebook accounts etc. You weren't of legal age, but there were certainly regulations centered around that age. Now it's mostly 16.
 
@forest that's true. Real mess. :/
@Bart 18 for drinking?
 
There's age of consent, age of majority, and then various ages for drinking/smoking, gun ownership (even differs for the type of gun), voting, driving...
Most of the time people mean age of consent and age of majority, but it's still all so convoluted that it never makes sense. Fukin laws, man.
 
Let there be chaos!! :P
 
@ShadowWizard that differs. 18 in most. 16 or 20 in some. usually with a difference between hard liquor or beer.
 
8:44 AM
Anyone can do anything!
 
Hey I'm cool with that. Just make it libertarian.
 
@Bart so complicated.
 
Your rights end where my nose begins.
 
@forest depends how long your nose is, then. :D
 
@ShadowWizard why make it easy when you can make it complicated? :p
 
8:45 AM
Age of consent on Shadow Country?
 
@andmyself 16
 
What is "shadow country"?
 
lol
My country!
 
oh lol
 
Shadow has his own country. He just fools people into thinking he lives in the same country as me.
 
8:47 AM
I claim Laniakea as my country.
aint nobody gonna tell me otherwise
 
@Mithrandir Your over-glorifying that Den. It's just a den, waaay too small to be called a 'country' ;)
 
heh
 
@andmyself but still, when adult man (or woman) have relationship with 16 years old girl (or boy) it's highly frowned upon.
@Tinkeringbell ohh, thanks for the idea! :P
 
It's amusing when you have a place like Mexico, when individual states bring the AoC down to 12 (state law overrides federal law there). Drama ensues.
 
@ShadowWizard oh...
 
8:49 AM
@Mithrandir hehe, some people refer to Tel Aviv as a separate country... ;)
 
It certainly feels like a different country than where I live...
 
indeed
 
user310756
 
user310756
this is the foal - she is now 5 months and very tall cc @rene
 
Nice! Though she looks too skinny.
 
user310756
8:53 AM
 
user310756
@ShadowWizard not at all google.com.au/…
 
user310756
she's a baby
 
user310756
this is my other bubby he is 10-11 months and tiny
 
user310756
he fits in my pocket
 
@YvetteColomb Pocket Pony?
 
user310756
8:56 AM
 
user310756
@sha it's important they don't get fat when they are young. It can cause harm. She's not skinny at all
 
user310756
@Tinkeringbell he's such a cutey. I'll give you an idea how big little he is
 
user310756
 
user310756
he's in the middle :)
 
user310756
the horse in the front is quite elderly.
 
8:58 AM
Gotta run, standup. BRB. But that looks small in comparison, yeah ;)
 
@YvetteColomb oh. Good then! :D
 

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