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9:00 AM
@tombull89 Not really. I'm talking mostly about comments.
 
ah I see where the "meh" bit is coming from now
 
Since comments can't be down voted, people tend to take a bit more ... liberty .. than usual when writing them
 
I know nothing about this subject, but can someone confirm that this question belongs on askubuntu? stackoverflow.com/questions/5171602/…
 
Random paraphrasing "[a member of the opposite sex] is [starred out profanity] attractive"
Of course, you would not post that as an answer. But a comment? Why not? No consequences to speak of (that you care about).
 
@TimPost well, except that being excessively flagged can bring down the wrath of the gods...
@JeffAtwood, by the way, it would be quite interesting (to me, at least) to see some statistics for correlation between tags and post quality. (I don't think I've ever seen a git question in /review, for example)
 
9:10 AM
@TimPost interesting point, that's definitely a fair way to justify it
@TimPost you should float it on meta with that justification
 
@Benjol what data would you like exposed in the data dumps or explorer for that
perhaps open a meta Q defining the parameters of what you need.. a lot of the review data is public (in principle)
 
@JeffAtwood I will once I've thought about it some more.
@JeffAtwood A badge that takes a year to earn should be of higher value, but many would receive it wholesale. I might refine it to "low or zero flags on posts that received xx views"
AGH! The FLAGS. They keep BLINKING and FLASHING .. and BLINKING and FLASHING .. and BLINKING and FLASHING ...
Please keep them coming :)
 
9:51 AM
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Q: Rewarding helpful commentors

Tim PostComments on Stack Exchange sites have always been a second class citizen as far as the overall goal of getting people the information that they want quickly. They are useful for asking for additional information, gently nudging someone into asking a better question or perhaps even a twist of humo...

 
Brilliant, I just crashed Nautilus
 
Mr. Verne will not be pleased.
 
10:08 AM
The Nautilus is the fictional submarine featured in Jules Verne's novels Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea (1870) and The Mysterious Island (1874). Verne named the Nautilus after Robert Fulton's real-life submarine Nautilus (1800). Three years before writing his novel, Jules Verne also studied a model of the newly developed French Navy submarine Plongeur at the 1867 Exposition Universelle, which inspired him for his definition of the Nautilus. Description The Nautilus is described by Verne as "a masterpiece containing masterpieces." It is designed and commanded by Captain Nemo. Ele...
that's hilarious @tombull89 btw
 
Heh, first thing that came to mind.
 
@DanGrossman yeah ive seen a couple of spammers doing that , just yesterday somebody went on commenting spree just to get a commentator badge .. and the other day one guy posted a really stupid answer so that he gets down-votes a peer pressure badge o_O and I was like .. what
 
@JeffAtwood Is post quality calculated on the fly, or stored somewhere?
 
@benjol it is calculated on the fly
 
10:13 AM
@JeffAtwood, ok, so my feature-request won't just be so simple...
 
put it on the metas
 
@Benjol It'd probably be easier to release the algorithm calculating that number...
 
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A: Stuff you should have learned in school but didn't pay attention to at the time

BenGirls. You may think I am joking but I am not. Don't go mad or anything, you still need to learn the academic stuff. But you also need to spend some time learning about the people, from the people around you. That includes the half of humanity who have completely different interests and attitu...

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@badpssockpuppet I thought of that, but didn't suggest it because I figured it might be considered as 'secret sauce' ...
 
10:27 AM
It is probably secret sauce. But it looks so delish
 
 
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Kev
12:17 PM
any idea why chat keeps posting my comments at the top of the page but other peoples comments get added at the bottom
 
@Kev That doesn't sound good! What browser, what version, and have you got any user scripts installed?
 
Kev
only doing this on javascript.chat.so....this one is fine
 
@Kev Seen a similar comment in the JavaScript room
 
Kev
no scripts running
 
Oh right, that's you
 
12:19 PM
It's coding kitten's fault :)
 
Erhm... (hides)
 
Kev
lol
 
Actually, I've seen this happening occasionally when I send out two messages over a slow network
 
Kev
logout/in seems to have fixed
 
The second message somehow gets to the server first, so the first message gets appended to the top for some reason
 
12:21 PM
Hi! :)
@YiJiang Yep, I've seen that many times, too.
 
@YiJiang But Kev said at the top of the page, not in the wrong order
I've never seen that
 
12:41 PM
So erhm... hang on, the iPad 2 will have the same 1024x768 screen, yet somehow have 'better resolution'? I'm not sure if I'm reading this report right
 
Jin
@YiJiang don't question uncle Steve.
 
Jin
@YiJiang in related news, Opera still exists.
 
@Jin \o/
 
used to be awesome. now its suspended :(
 
12:47 PM
@Reno Explains why nothing shows up for me
No, actually, not quite right
#twitter redirection #fail
(It should be redirecting to the 'suspended user' page)
 
i know right :D
i thought i was just my browser
 
Certainly, it can't even be accessed from TweetDeck.
> Twitter Status: Request forbidden by Twitter API
 
oh he made a new account
@falseSteveJobs, Apple
More than meets the i. As you should expect from a parody account.
678 tweets, 464k followers, following 50 users
 
Ah, I never knew there was an onebox for Twitter users!
 
#iPad2 is now 33% thinner and 50% more absorbent.
i love this guy
 
12:52 PM
#I'm #not #sure #how #Twitter #works. #Can #every #word #be #a #hash #tag?
 
Jin
@YiJiang #tigerblood
 
@Spammer, Anytown, USA
I'm a 7 year old SEO GURU! Click here for my free e-book & receive 35 billion followers from the world's #1 social media Pyramid Scheme WIZARD!
29 tweets, 74 followers, following 58 users
 
If Twitter could only maintain the high level of quality output found here in the Tavern, I might be tempted back :D
 
1:14 PM
OMG!
Nippon: Game of the Year edition
 
ARRRRGGGGHHHHHHHH
SAN is down. VMs are hung. Datacenter is unhelpful. I am very frustrated.
 
@TheRenamedException Hi!
> Status: away - AFK for the rest of the night
Umā€¦ night?
 
@Nyuszika7H thanks, I set that yesterday
I would very much like it if these guys would get off their asses and fix my server! RAWR
 
@TheRenamedException - but they are lazy.
@TheRenamedException - They don't help people. Why are you an exception?
 
1:26 PM
@Moshe Hint, look at his name :)
 
@Moshe they're normally excellent... today notsomuch
 
@Moshe ~ integer overflow on scores is a bad thing:
 
Hahaha
 
yen inflation is also such a bad thing
I have a lot of real world yen that im still waiting to convert
 
@MarcGravell We've got a really persistent spammer here, posting on multiple sites on the network - the user19119 above
 
1:34 PM
@Moshe it wouldn't have been a problem if I wasn't trying to get a max score. Apparently I did.
 
@YiJiang he's nuked on programmers
 
> This account is temporarily suspended. The suspension period ends on Jul 19 '38 at 13:33.
2038... we've got time 'til he comes back :)
 
@Benjol Lol, nuked by balpha already.
 
ohhhh give me that burninate button. I want to feeeel the powweeerrr!
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1:40 PM
2038 :O
 
4 mins ago, by Loïc Wolff
2038... we've got time 'til he comes back :)
 
Hmm, doesn't SO delete an account if it's inactive for a while? (user doesn't log in)
 
@Nyuszika7H For registered user, only if they have no posts and have 1 rep after a year or so I think
 
2
Q: What's the longest tag (among all SE sites)?

piobyzThis question is similar to Which SE site has the longest name? but regarding tag titles. Is there any quick way to determine the longest tag titles? Also, is there any length limit on tag titles? I'm designing a UI and this info would help me to eliminate some boundary cases...

heh
 
The marked answer doesn't actually answer the question ;)
 
1:47 PM
heheh
 
Not sure whether it's the question or the answer here that needs attention, or neither: stackoverflow.com/questions/5168511/…
 
I'll propose Area 51 on Area 51 at April 1stā€¦
 
How did the the first answer have only 2 characters >_<"
 
@Reno No<sauerkraut/><sauerkraut/><sauerkraut/>
 
that is cool :) @LoïcWolff 100 internet points for you
 
1:57 PM
@Reno Can I haz star?
 
sure you can :)
who knew someone collected these :)
 
2:16 PM
@mootinator: @Nyuszika7H: Hi, I need your Help
 
@SankarGanesh Hi!
 
@mootinator: @@Nyuszika7H: i want to Schedule an Event in My room , Now i how can conduct that event, i had created an event, do you have any idea on that
 
@SankarGanesh I don't get what you're trying to doā€¦
 
@Nyuszika7H I had Scheduled an Event in My room on this Saturday, can you give me a link how we can Schedule an Event in a Room and How users participate on that
 
@SankarGanesh You say you already sheduled itā€¦
Could you link to your room?
 
2:21 PM
@mootinator: My Dear friend, Where are you Went, Are you Here, It's very difficult to be here without you
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@Nyuszika7H: yes, i already scheduled an event
 
@SankarGanesh They will be notified 10 or 5 mins before events, even if they're in another room, I think.
 
@Nyuszika7H Ok, nice
 
But they need to register themselves for that event.
 
@Nyuszika7H: Ok, All registered users gets Notification, so i can conduct a Event what i desire on that time, am i right
 
Join the room, click info, go to the schedule tab, click register yourself, and that's all.
 
2:24 PM
Oh, and here you are again @SankarGanesh
 
@Nyuszika7H: thanks
@Cawas: Welcome, a here
 
:)
 
@SankarGanesh What's your primary language?
 
yeah, not many people active here as well... I'll do some research and ask a question if appropriate.
 
@Nyuszika7H: Tamil is my Primary language and what about you
 
2:25 PM
@SankarGanesh Hungarian
 
@Nyuszika7H Do you know , any info about tamil
 
@SankarGanesh no
 
@Nyuszika7H Ok, I miss my dear friend @mootinator i think he may not here, so i m leaving this room , Bye, thanks for the info
 
there's something going on between @SankarGanesh and @mootinator
I smell romance in the air :)
 
OK this is ridiculous. It's now been 2 hours since I reported this issue
Nobody at my datacenter has done anything. "Oh, we're working ion it", pffft
I am not convinced
>_<
 
2:29 PM
@LoĆÆcWolff Are you mad, he is my one of best friend, i have so many best friend, TimPost and @drachenstern and @DanGrossman and @TimStoneand @GeorgeMarian , are my best friends , Mind your words
 
@SankarGanesh, I fear your definition of best friend doesn't correspond to mine...
 
@Benjol ok, OK
 
(starting by someone I've actually physically met :)
Here's an interesting question: is there anyone on SO that you have actually met?
Not me
 
@Benjol: so far No, But the way my best friends , chat and behave like gentlemans
 
@SankarGanesh Not mad, it was just a pun ;)
 
2:32 PM
@LoïcWolff: You had Disappointed MySelf and My Best friends, Mind your words Again, They are Nice and Helping Guys ,:)
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@YiJiang yes
 
@drachenstern: Hi, Sir
 
@badpssockpuppet Every Word Can Be Capitalized Too, (except i :)
 
   O
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   |   |
  / \} |
Can you find the squirell?
 
@Nyuszika7H Nope
 
2:35 PM
@SankarGanesh calm down, no one means offense.
 
@SankarGanesh -10 rep (just kidding :P)
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Q: What do you call this { character?

John IsaacksWhen talking to another programmer I would refer to ( and ) as parentheses. I would refer to [ and ] as brackets. What do you refer to { and } as? I checked the wikipedia article and there were several names listed: curly brackets squiggly brackets definite brackets swirly brackets birdie brac...

Search for the word squirrel.
 
@SankarGanesh mornin
 
@badpssockpuppet He Had Spoke Irregularly, I hate Him, How can he says like this, it is very bad and Commented , I donot like this type of irregular activities, i came here to clear doubts on Scheduling an events, i had talked to well peoples , so that i pinged them , he says badly, really he hurted me
 
@drachenstern Good Morning, have a Nice Day
 
2:38 PM
Does anybody else see irony in that image?
 
@SankarGanesh If a message offends you flag it.
 
@badpssockpuppet: i already falgged it, what happens when i flag it
 
@SankarGanesh moderators will take a look at it
 
@SankarGanesh 10kers and mods review your flag, if the message was offensive it is removed and the user suspended 30 minutes
 
@badpssockpuppet: i already falgged it, what happens when i flag it
@badpssockpuppet Hmm , Nice , He must have that punishment then only, he can't behave like this to others
 
2:40 PM
@SankarGanesh, it's a cultural thing, I fear. Look up "banter"
 
@SankarGanesh You speak irregularly, you capitalize words randomly, you can't spell, you absolutely murder the English language, you really hurt me... no you did not. Please, stop getting offended over such small matter.
 
@SankarGanesh You've done your part, now it's out of your hands. Calm down and move along.
 
@badpssockpuppet Ok, thanks for your Help and Kindness on Me
 
@YiJiang Yeah, I don't think that translates somehow
 
@YiJiang what , where you find bug on my conversation tell me, how i hurted you
 
2:42 PM
@YiJiang Nevermind. Let's not make a big deal out of this... just a big difference in culture
 
Also @SankarGanesh if you have a question about how to use the site
 
@Sankar, if you could write I instead of i, it would make a big difference to me, at least :)
 
@badp, typo (quesions)
 
@Benjol Thanks
 
2:43 PM
Hey @Moshe quit breaking my high score runs! :p
 
@badpssockpuppet Sure i will Shoot it, but i can come and ask here, am i right
 
Also, you have a bug in your finale script
@SankarGanesh yes, you may ask here, but in matters of "how do I use feature X on this site?" then you should ask on Meta too, so that if other people do not know they can learn as well.
 
@SankarGanesh It's kinda against the whole point of using a Questions & Answer system.
 
we are here more as a guidepost than to answer questions.
 
@Sankar, I was serious about looking up 'banter', here:
> Banter is non-serious conversation, usually between friends, which may rely on humour or in-jokes at the expense of those taking part. The purpose of banter may at first appear to be an offensive affront to the other person's face. However, people engaging in such a conversation are often signaling that they are comfortable enough in each others' company to be able to say such things without causing offense.
 
2:45 PM
Wow, I like that definition, is that from wikipedia?
 
@drachenstern, yup, banter redirects to Conversation
 
@Benjol nice
 
Heh.
 
@drachenstern: and @badpssockpuppet: thanks for your valuable thoughts , i will correct it , in my future, sorry for now
 
You're welcome.
 
2:48 PM
@Moshe so if you have at the end of the game: total = Wallet + BankBalance - CreditUnionBalance then you shouldn't check for if (total < 0) return "sorry, you owed the credit union more than you made"; it should be if (total < 0 && CreditUnionBalance > 0) return "sorry, you owed the credit union more than you made"
 
@badpssockpuppet and @drachenstern: The way you guys Speaks in a nice and gentle manner, i was wonder why other people not following your styles in their speech, Thank you very Much , Gentle Man
 
@SankarGanesh Language and culturale barrier, I'm sure @LoïcWolff and @Benjol are fine people as well.
(I can't tell who exactly got the flag)
 
@badpssockpuppet For you, i m forgiving , him, he disappointed my gentleman's name, that why i got more and more angry on him, sorry for getting angry,
 
@Nyuszika7H Star Room, lol
 
@Cawas don't encourage him
 
2:50 PM
@badpssockpuppet Who are all the people will get the flag, any idea on that
 
@SankarGanesh it takes more than one flagger (I won't disclose how many) to trip the "auto-flag-response" and it takes only one flag and a moderator to invoke a manual flag response. As for who flags whom, those are anonymous.
 
@SankarGanesh related:
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Q: Make the flag count disappear after flags are viewed in chat

jjnguyRight now 10k users on any given site can see flags from chat. The idea here, is that the 10k'ers will see the flags and then add their own to make the offensive content go away. However, if a user views the flags and decides that they are not flag worthy, the notification stays in the chat win...

 
@drachenstern you rather not encourage me as well
 
@Cawas pretty much
 
@drachenstern - thanks. I'm not ready to fix that yet. But I'll get to it.
I've got a ton of things to do.
 
2:52 PM
@Moshe have you got a bugtracker setup somewhere that I should be logging these things?
 
Btw, I got sales numbers from yesterday.
 
did you see my screenshot earlier?
 
Nippon was free.
 
Also mods have the final word on whether a message is offensive or not (either way)
 
@drachenstern let me make a github. Hang on.
Which one?
 
2:53 PM
@badpssockpuppet not if it's auto-flagged
 
@badpssockpuppet Thanks for sharing this question, i m going to read this
 
@Moshe hang on and I will repost it
 
@drachenstern messages can be auto-flagged?
 
@badpssockpuppet I rather meant, if enough people flag it and it automatically trips the monitor
 
@drachenstern Automatically trips the monitor means
 
2:54 PM
I love meta:
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@drachenstern Yeah, well, if enough people flag the message is removed etc.
 
@LoĆÆcWolff ><
 
@mootinator: hi, Good Morning,
 
@SankarGanesh Hello...
 
@badpssockpuppet I read that question , thanks
@mootinator I got angry and got tensed too
 
2:57 PM
lol
 
@mootinator: sorry GentleMan, because of My Mistake of calling ur Name, people saying bad things, sorry for that,
 
@drachenstern have you found it yet?
 
I am really steamed now
 
Image not found.
 
I'll get over it =)
 
2:59 PM
 
I think the next support ticket I send in will say "Let's have a race! Can you guys fix my SAN before I find a new datacenter? Let's find out... GO!"
 
@The oh no! Still having server troubles?
 
@mootinator I'll get over it means, i m not able to understand,
 
@SankarGanesh I'm not really concerned.
 
@drachenstern I got the image. How do you cause that?
 
3:01 PM
Dear Friends, i Am Now Leaving Your Auspicious Company In Order To Rejoin My Illustrious Family. See you tomorrow...
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in Chat feedback, 17 secs ago, by Cawas
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Q: New chat messages always scroll up and down bug

CawasEvery time there's a chat message, instead of getting just a scroll down the screen scrolls up as well. So it makes a very annoying flickering up and down. With an active chat, it doesn't stop scrolling, making the whole chat experience absolutely terrible. I'm surprised I couldn't find anyone e...

ok, so nobody else is having this scrolling chat bug?
 
My CEO is now on the phone with me and the datacenter. They best watch out, we're going to bring the pain.
 
@mootinator hmm, Again you had proved your a Nice GentleMan
 
@Cawas It's caused by the Screen Capture Chrome extension.
 
@Cawas it happens. I accept it as status-bydesign
 
3:02 PM
where's that room for yelling? I could use it now. heh
 
@Nyuszika no. It's not. I get that on iOS some times.
 
@YiJiang Thanks
 
@badpssockpuppet: and @mootinator: and @drachenstern: I m leaving, this room , bye guys take care
 
@Nyuszika7H really? dammit
You should answer it there!
 
3:04 PM
@Cawas it's a duplicate
 
I'd bet it is @Nyuszika7H but I couldn't find any!
By the way... Anyone happens to know if we really should avoid to add "bug" to the title of meta questions tagged as bug? Grace Note sure seems to agree with this:
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Q: Notified of new comments, but couldn't see them because they were over 90 days old

xanadontI haven't visited Meta Stack Overflow in quite some time. A while ago, I received new comments. So the banner announced this upon login. However, when I click the link there's nothing to show because updates older than 90 days are not shown.

 
So what was he getting upset about?
 
@Nyuszika7H I've disabled the extension... are you sure they're related?
because nothing changed.
 
@Cawas yep, did you refresh the page?
 
oh, the page-refreshing... always forget about it.
ok...
yeah, there we go!
@Nyuszika7H thanks! - now I'd really enjoy an extension to group extensions I don't use much to enable / disable them when needed. :P
3 extensions already use as much memory as the navigator itself! that's too much.
 
3:12 PM
@tombull89 I posted it about two comments after my previous one
 
@Moshe because I earned more than 1.9 billion yen and tried to deposit it into my bank account which already had a half billion yen in it.
 
@Nyuszika7H man, you're the man, man!
 
is there something such as mspaint, but on the web?
 
@Cawas Actually, there's a better one: bit.ly/93g7QO
 
3:15 PM
why everytime I come to meta chat I get a deja vu?
 
@drachenstern ahhh I thought you meant which question was sanker getting upset about.
 
@Cawas Have you checked it?
 
@Nyuszika7H lol
 
@tombull89 no, I know what he's upset about, and it's cultural, and there's no fixing that besides him living in the US for 5 years separated from his current culture.
 
@Nyuszika7H not only do I get a deja vu, I remember of the times I did get it before. well, at least once.
 
3:17 PM
@drachenstern ah right, thanks for clarifying.
 
ok, time to go debug some SQL ... bbiab
 
@Cawas You tweeted it!
 
@Nyuszika7H yes I did. Isn't twitter for linking to crap nonsense?
did I get your twitter right by accident?
 
@Cawas Yep, TweetDeck notified that you mentioned me.
 
@Nyuszika7H :D
 
3:21 PM
@Cawas retweeted :)
I pressed the button at instantrimshot.com, but I didn't hear anything, because I have click to play in Chrome :) plugins disabled by default
 
and why do you disable the plugins?
 
@Cawas because SE chat uses Flash, too, and it slows down my computer sometimes
I'm going to make an userscript which uses HTML5 <audio> to notify instead of Flash.
It's easy, but I need to poll the title every second or soā€¦
 
@Nyuszika7H that's a perfect instance on why SE engine needs some kind of openess, API, plugin support, I dunno.
 
@Cawas It actually has an APIā€¦ stackapps.com
 
@Nyuszika7H well yeah, but that doesn't solve the prior issue.
I meant something to allow more developers to contribute on the engine itself.
maybe it's just about using GIT branches in a proper way, if that's really how the linux kernel is done.
 
3:27 PM
@Cawas Won't happen until they actually release to OSS the source code
If not I've jumped in immediately and ripped apart SO's HTML
 
@YiJiang OSS as in Open Source Society?
 
Software
 
oh, close :D
 
@Cawas Open Source software, meh; I use that abbreviation out of habit more of anything else
 
0
Q: Sound notifications in chat

Nyuszika7HI'm going to make an userscript for chat which replaces Flash sound notifications with HTML5 ones. Are there any better solutions, or I need to poll document.title every second or so?

 
3:30 PM
@Nyuszika7H Just poll it every half second or so; it's generally speaking good enough
 
stackoverflow got such a great engine and attract so many developers that it needs to become one of the most perfectly done pieces of software in all senses just to keep the coherence.
 
@Nyuszika7H all you have to do is hi-jack the jPlayer() constructor to ignore the nativeSupport: false part :)
 
I just hope this turns out to making it OSS soon enough.
 
@balpha really? :) and how?
 
well, and have a browser that accepts MP3
 
3:33 PM
@balpha Chrome accepts it
 
(or it will fallback to flash)
and have a browser where <audio> support doesn't suck
 
I can play the notification sounds fine from http://or.sstatic.net/chat/[so|meta|se].mp3. And it's HTML5, not Flash.
 
last time I checked, that included pretty much none of them. but that was a while ago actually, so I could check again and see if turning off nativeSupport: false could be warranted
@Nyuszika7H sure. I was just assuming you'd also want it to work in firefox
and FF doesn't take mp3
 
@balpha Not even FF4?
 
I don't know, but I doubt it
 
3:35 PM
@Nyuszika7H Nope
 
now that we're down to three different sounds, I guess I could just make ogg versions, though
 
I believe it's over the fact that the codec is non-free software, so they can't use it
 
I hesitated to do that back then because of the "one chat site for each site" plan, but that has changed since
 
Can't remember whether it was over monetary or political issues, I believe they can't use H.264 for the royalties, but, ahh, my memories suck
 
@balpha So how do I do that?
 
3:40 PM
status-send-me-teh-codez
 
status-i-dont-have-codez
Awesome. The 'add to cart' feature for renewing my iOS developer agreement results in a apple.com 404. This could be a sign.
 
@balpha the solution obviously is to use a video tag instead!
put it on the background on the page so that you can make it flash unicorns on reply!!
 
better yet: the notification sound should just be an embedded youtube video!
 
@balpha easily replaceable for April 1st purposes!
 
@balpha rickNotification!
 
3:46 PM
every @-reply, play a second of that song
 
Oh come on! I missed a discussion about voting? Damn. ):
 
@RebeccaChernoff I missed that I missed a discussion about voting, so you're ahead of me
 
@MichaelMrozek hehe well I only saw it because Jeff told @Benjol to bring something up with me. (: And I think Benjol misunderstood something I said.
 

A debate about voting

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I think I covered all of the action
 
3:57 PM
@MichaelMrozek and I wasn't present to learn that I missed missing a discussion about voting, so where does that put me? eeep
 

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