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Tyler Chacha
Tyler Chacha
6:02 AM
Hello
12 hours ago, by Tyler Chacha
I've scrolled to the top and not a single message has been starred. That is truly incredible..
It's happening again..
 
George Marian
George Marian
@TylerChacha Eh?
 
Tyler Chacha
Tyler Chacha
Hows it going @GeorgeMarian? Back from Holidays?
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
'Ello @TylerChacha, @GeorgeMarian
 
George Marian
George Marian
@TylerChacha Nah, I've just been busy with the holidays and mostly lurking in here.
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
:O
 
Tyler Chacha
Tyler Chacha
6:06 AM
@MarcGravell How ya doing?
 
George Marian
George Marian
heh hey @TimStone
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
 
George Marian
George Marian
@MarcGravell Breaking more chats? ;)
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
heya all; back for my first "proper" day's work since xmas invaded my nice orderly home
I'm busy breaking the moderator dashboard first, then I'll get right on breaking chats
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
Heheh, did you have an enjoyable (though seemingly hectic) holiday? :)
 
Tyler Chacha
Tyler Chacha
6:14 AM
@MarcGravell There is a very critical bug with the Moderation Dashboard
@MarcGravell The bug is ... I can't see it......
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
Didn't you already make that joke before? :P
 
Tyler Chacha
Tyler Chacha
Reuse and Recycle
Note 'Reduce' is not listed..
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
The code is written to also be a drop in replacement for the 10k flags page - just needs some sanity checking
 
Tyler Chacha
Tyler Chacha
@MarcGravell Does that mean the 10k page will look nicer?
Can we get keyboard shortcuts for the moderation page?
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
what shortcuts would you need?
 
nhinkle
nhinkle
6:17 AM
Quite a while ago (11 days to be exact) I asked on meta.SO if there's a possibility of seeing any year-end statistics for the SE sites besides SO, like what was posted on the SO blog a couple weeks ago. Quite a few people seem to like the idea, but there has been literally no response from the SO team, in support or against the suggestion. Any idea if this will ever happen? Can we get some sort of status update on whether this is in the works or just not happening or completely overlooked?
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Q: 2010 analytics for all Stack Exchange sites

nhinkleThe 2010 analytics data posted on the Stack Overflow blog recently were very interesting. It would be nice however to see this sort of data for all of the Stack Exchange sites, or at least for all of the original trilogy. Would it be possible for the Stack Exchange team to provide this informatio...

feature-request data-analysis analytics
 
Tyler Chacha
Tyler Chacha
[j] Next [k] Previous [f] Flag
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
@nhinkle I'll ask...
 
Tyler Chacha
Tyler Chacha
[o] Expand
That way we can go through and look at content in a more efficient manner
 
nhinkle
nhinkle
@MarcGravell, thanks. Sorry for the hassle. Usually there's a pretty quick response on SO for this sort of thing, so it's surprising to have heard nothing. We from the other SE sites appreciate it :)
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
bumped
 
Tyler Chacha
Tyler Chacha
6:19 AM
@MarcGravell Also, I can't flag a post from the moderation page, but I can look at the content..
Therefore, if I'm able to look at the content, I'm able to judge whether it needs to be flagged. Thus I should be able to flag it
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
it does make sense to include that option - a bit like /review does
 
Tyler Chacha
Tyler Chacha
Also, can you make an easter egg that if you down-vote Jon Skeet, random parts of the site are replaced by the word 'thingadongdong'
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
is this change reflexive? how about if you downvote "thingadongdong", random parts of Jon Skeet are replaced?
 
Tyler Chacha
Tyler Chacha
no...
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
I have a strange feeling that he wouldn't like that.
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
6:28 AM
lulz
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
@RebeccaChernoff I'm thinking at some point we should probably take a look at the userscript as a whole and figure out how we might tidy it up. Of course, if you'd really rather go to extensions, I guess that might not be worthwhile.
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
I think it would be anyway. If we go the extensions route, I'd picture the userscript itself existing and then just ui's that present options to the user being browser specific for however the extension needs to be built?
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
Hm, that's true. :) In that case we'll have to pick a good point to break from adding new stuff. ;)
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
Right...
|:
Hehe
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
What, have you gone and added 20 more features in the last half hour? Hahah, but I was thinking maybe once we have this notification stuff sorted out or something, unless you had anything else big planned. On a semi-related note, I checked some changes into my repository, so I'll probably take care of the pull in the morning (trying to do other stuff before I forget, and want to make sure I didn't forget any changes).
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
6:37 AM
The only other thing I plan on adding is explicit notification + onebox support.
My regex didn't work when we tested the other night.
Or something related to the check if not the regex.
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
What do you mean as far as explicit notification support?
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
Well right now it just looks for .mention inside of .message. If you explicitly reply to a message with content that gets oneboxed, there is no .mention, so it doesn't trigger a desktop notification.
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
Ah, gotcha.
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
A regular explicit reply is ok because that will have the .mention element. It's just when it is a onebox.
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
still toying with adding chrome notifications to the main script; then it will rock as an app-shortcut
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
6:40 AM
:o
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
o:
lol @TimStone
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
Copycat! ;)
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
@MarcGravell If you want the code, take a look at the userscript hehe.
Or at least, hackish code. >_<
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
Marc going behind our backs to add awesome things to the chat that he created, for shame!
Oh health insurance application, why will you not allow me to enter my birthday?
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
All the new tabs that the chat creates when you click on just about anything is not kind with a desktop shortcut.
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
6:42 AM
well, I imagine we'd hook in at a different place, and we'd have things like user-prefs to worry about - so we know when to (or not to) bring up the "request permission" bar...
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
Well you only need the request permission bar once per domain.
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
Yeah, doing a livequery on the DOM is definitely not the most effective way to get the notifications. I wanted to hook into the event responses, but I didn't toy around much with what @RebeccaChernoff did yet. :P
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
true, true...
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
@TimStone Well, as usual, I went for the quick and dirty route. >_<
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
Hey, it works and it's cool, so it's all good. \o/
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
6:45 AM
Hehe.
Hmm, I just glanced at the clock and thought that I needed to get to bed because I needed to wake up for work. Bad Rebecca!
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
Heheh
Yeah, you need to work on completely trashing your sleep schedule so that when you do have work to go back to you'll be completely unprepared ;)
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
oy
2
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
7:15 AM
Oh, it's already past 2...hrm.
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
'tis indeed!
For those in less than stellar time zones. (:
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
I'm not sure that best is less than stellar, but yes.
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
yada q:
 
giddy
giddy
hi everyone.. just wondering what the new high lighted questions are about??
(the light yellow highlights on the questions)
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@giddy You added a tag to the 'interesting tags' list, so the system highlights all questions with those tags
 
George Marian
George Marian
7:25 AM
@TimStone If it's any consolation, I would be in bed, but I have to wait for the soup to cool down so I can put it in the fridge.
 
Jesse Hartwick
Jesse Hartwick
@giddy I'm not sure I'm seeing what you're seeing. If a question is tagged with one of your "interesting" tags, then it's highlighted a bit. Maybe you've just tagged something as interesting?
 
giddy
giddy
hah! lol i see. true. its the first time ive set my interesting tags.
 
George Marian
George Marian
Yah, it's the interesting tags.
 
giddy
giddy
and I thought it was a new feature =P
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
@GeorgeMarian I should be finishing up work, but my brain isn't functioning properly at the moment.
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
7:26 AM
If you don't set any interesting/ignored tags, then I believe they've written logic that figures one out for you, so people could be seeing highlighting without ever setting anything.
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
@RebeccaChernoff Yes
 
George Marian
George Marian
@TimStone Sometimes, it's best to leave it alone for a while. I've done lots of great work late at night and I've also caused lots of work late at night. :)
 
giddy
giddy
thanks guys! =)
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
I think I just have to write a few more lines, but I might cave and watch TV instead, heh. But yeah, I know what you mean.
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
and when you say TV, do you mean Minecraft or NFS? (:
 
George Marian
George Marian
7:29 AM
lol
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
@RebeccaChernoff I could play NFS (Well, not the one I was playing, as I've pretty much completely beaten it now), but I was thinking about actually watching TV, what with the sleepiness and such.
 
George Marian
George Marian
So, I finally took the dive into python. I ended up in Django. Now, I have to find my way into GTK. /shudder
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
I also just realized that I only ate once today, and that makes me sad.
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
heh
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
Ah ha, good stuff. I've yet to fully take that plunge, mainly due to being busy with other things.
 
George Marian
George Marian
7:33 AM
It's pretty nice. There are some oddities, but I like it. I haven't dome much, but so far the strict white space hasn't been an issue.
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
That's what I like to hear :)
 
George Marian
George Marian
Django also seems pretty cool. I futzed with the templating a bit. What can I say? I like the idea of one template extending another. :)
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
Ah yeah, Play! does its templating like that too, at least in the sense that you say that some content extends some other content.
 
George Marian
George Marian
I like it. I like it a lot. It makes it easy to create a shell and fill it.
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
yawns Alright, time to go lay down and take care of that whole TV thing. I'll either get a second burst of energy and be back to code, or I'll pass out, which seems a bit more likely at the moment. ;)
 
George Marian
George Marian
7:40 AM
@TimStone Heh. Good luck with that and g'night.
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
Thanks, see everyone later. Also, someone feed @YiJiang while I'm gone, he's over there in the Sandbox asking for cheeseburgers. :P
 
George Marian
George Marian
heh
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
7:54 AM
@TimStone Ha!
 
 
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radp
radp
9:18 AM
Sigh. I still get logged out.
Morning gents.
Let's try using a non-Google OpenID :|
mumbles Stupid Yahoo.
mumbles This better not work.
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@radp Ha! Cursing the Internet gods will only make things worse :P
 
radp
radp
@YiJiang Yahoo is an internet god?
A fallen god at best.
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@radp Used to be
 
radp
radp
YES! I got logged out.
Take that Yahoo.
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@radp Not sure why you'd want to be happy - it indicates a problem with the StackAuth login system
 
radp
radp
9:34 AM
@YiJiang ...well at least that means I was right about that.
Not my connection, not my OpenID provider, not the moon phase
I mean, if the problem had been with Google, it'd have been fixed sometime in 2015
Now instead I can bunny poke @Marc to death...
2
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@radp You're right! @MarcGravell needs to hear about this!
 
Pekka
Pekka
You must be logged in to bunny poke @Marc Gravell
2
 
radp
radp
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
what've I done now?
 
marcog
marcog
9:55 AM
I hate downvote rampages based on incorrect comments!
@MarcGravell Bad choice of username you have there, I'm getting all your pings. ;-P
 
radp
radp
5
Q: Stack Exchange Chat logs me out every 3 minutes

radpI tried to log in via the ghetto login button, via StackAuth on the room list, via StackAuth on the login page, via StackAuth after logging in and out of a SE site (SF), via the 'chat' button on Gaming... ...but no matter what I do, today I'm consistently being logged out. The 5 minutes figure ...

support chat stackexchange-2.0 login
@marcog whoops :) sorry.
 
marcog
marcog
@radp No worries :)
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
@marcog Sorry, I'll change my name
2
ok ok, taking another look at that damned asldkhfslfdkj jilfdsjgsldfkjglkfdsjg lkfdjg lkdfsgkljdflg logout issue
 
marcog
marcog
@MarcGravell How kind of you
 
radp
radp
10:11 AM
@MarcGravell I suggest "Rebecca"
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@radp Chernoff is equally good. Better, even!
 
radp
radp
@MarcGravell would you like me to try logging in some more times for your diagnostic pleasure?
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
feel free, but I don't have any special logging for you at the moment ;p
this is such a brain-ache issue
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
Dunno why other room notification suddenly fails now...
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
core? or user-script?
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
10:27 AM
@MarcGravell Userscript - mine. That was part debugging message
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
(leaves users to script themselves silly)
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
Leaving two windows open like this, then talking in one and waiting for the notification to turn up is weird
/blames @MarcGravell for not providing an API
 
radp
radp
the DOM should be good enough for everybodyâ„¢
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@radp Without XMLHttpRequest, chat is nothing
 
radp
radp
and jQuery.
Don't forget about jQuery
@YiJiang you can use the DOM to insert arbitrary response nodes in your page! hides
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
10:34 AM
@radp Erm...
 
radp
radp
that's the basis for <script> injection when XHR origin policies get in the way, yes?
(I think that, instead of replying to @YiJiang's erms, I should instead star them and pretend they were valuable internet currency instead. Then I think this room can do with just one valuable internet currency, @RebeccaChernoff's oy, and that I should leave it at that.)
You don't want to have arguments about how many oys is an erm worth, right?
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
10
Q: Add paging for user activity section

wafflesI'm curious, are people interested in paging on the recent activity page?

feature-request status-completed users recent-activity
Woot! [status-complete] at last
@radp Possibly, but the market rates are made up on the spot and are generally accepted to be correct, so it's not that big of an issue
 
Pekka
Pekka
11:18 AM
Did you know that Cyrillic has a letter for "Oy"? Ѹ
2
 
radp
radp
@Pekka If this doesn't deserve a pin, I don't know what does.
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
11:36 AM
Uk (Cyrillic)
Uk () is a letter of the early Cyrillic alphabet. It was originally a digraph of and or less frequently , a letterform called digraph uk. To save space, it was often written as a vertical ligature (), monograph uk. In modern times, has been replaced by the simple у. In later manuscript, the digraph uk has three case: lowercase , uppercase , and an all-caps form which is used in all-capitals titles, . Borrowing from Greek Both the horizontal and the vertical digraph were borrowed from the Greek alphabet. The Greek ligature is frequently found in Greek medieval manuscripts and ...
Dammit! All the Ѹ's are gone! We demand a fix for this @MarcGravell!!
 
radp
radp
11:58 AM
groans
 
radp
radp
12:22 PM
setInterval( function () {$("#input").text(Math.random()); $("#sayit-button").click()}, 5000) and setInterval( function() { $(".pending a").last().click() }, 1000) are not enough to keep me logged in :(
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
Quick test - anyone around who might be able to reply / mention me?
 
radp
radp
@MarcGravell
@MarcGravell halp! edit test
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
Cool - desktop notifications (in Chrome) now available in the core build. Back to keeping @badp logged in...
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
Hehe... but won't that means that @RebeccaChernoff's script would actually double notify unless you turn one off?
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
hmmm... I wonder if I need to remove some formatting...
@YiJiang perhaps, but ultimately that is a user-script issue
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
12:26 PM
@MarcGravell So when is it coming out? And what options are you defining for it? Also, is other room messages supported?
 
Feeds
Feeds
hi @Marc bold italics
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
@YiJiang when: when you reload; options: which would you like? other-room: should be - will validate
(validated)
 
spoulson
spoulson
12:54 PM
Hello
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
howdy
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@spoulson Evening
 
spoulson
spoulson
@YiJiang Morning
 
radp
radp
1:10 PM
woo, I can has notifications.
@MarcGravell You give the "enable desktop notification" message to logged out users too
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
d'oh! fixing
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
Does @-mentions like Blah@Feeds work?
 
radp
radp
blah@YiJiang
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@radp It does, apparently
 
radp
radp
@MarcGravell Receive desktop notifications for: [ ] Moderator flags, [ ] Offensive flags, [ ] mentions
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
1:25 PM
But does it work on mobile safari?
 
Fosco
Fosco
Good Whatever, everyone.
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
@drachenstern which "it"?
 
radp
radp
@radp test
@radp test
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
@radp self reply/mention isn't necessarily going to happen
 
Feeds
Feeds
@radp which is one reason I'm handy; isn't that right @Marc?
 
radp
radp
1:34 PM
> You were mentioned by Marc Gravell @radp which is one reason I'm handy; isn't that right @Marc?
Your Feeds shenanigans don't work via notifications!
(that, or two people's @replies get merged in one notification with the former's title and the latter's message.)
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
oh, that
I edited it as me; I don't have a UI for editing as other people
 
radp
radp
@MarcGravell That was an interesting reality check.
 
Fosco
Fosco
2:03 PM
there's no 'disable desktop notifications' option?
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
@Fosco The browser itself gives you that. We could also possibly add a user-preference if needeed
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@MarcGravell The problem is that the browser will (AFAIK) never ask again, so if you only need to momentarily turn it off...
 
Marc Gravell
Marc Gravell
will look at
 
Fosco
Fosco
where does my browser (Chrome) give me this option?
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@Fosco I'm not sure if there's a global option available, but the site will need to ask for your permission before it can do the desktop notification
 
Fosco
Fosco
2:15 PM
ok since you pinged me, there was an option on the notification to access the settings... turned them off
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@YiJiang I need to see if this works cross-room. How about edits.
Gah!
 
Pedro Loureiro
Pedro Loureiro
2:33 PM
hello
is there anyway to include a link with parenthesis in it?
example:
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@PedroLoureiro You need to encode it
 
Pedro Loureiro
Pedro Loureiro
Encapsulation (object-oriented programming)
In an object-oriented programming language encapsulation is used to refer to one of two related but distinct notions, and sometimes to the combination thereof: * A language mechanism for restricting access to some of the object's components. * A language construct that facilitates the bundling of data with the methods operating on that data. Programming language researchers and academics generally use the first meaning alone or in combination with the second as a distinguishing feature of object oriented programming. The second definition is motivated by the fact that in many OOP language...
manually? :x
sorry.. I didn't mean to actually link to the page
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@PedroLoureiro I'm sure there are online tools to do it for you
 
Pedro Loureiro
Pedro Loureiro
yes
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
Eric Meyer, of all people :P
 
Pedro Loureiro
Pedro Loureiro
2:35 PM
but I guess it should be integrated with the composer :)
hmm
that makes it as http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FEncapsulation_(object-oriented_programming)
which doesn't work
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@PedroLoureiro Not really very easy, since you can't tell legitimate end of line ) from those in the URL
Hmm... well anyway you should only need to replace that last ) - use %29 instead would work I think
Hmmm... copying that URL causes Firefox to encode the two brackets for me automatically
 
Pedro Loureiro
Pedro Loureiro
yay!
it worked1
:D
thanks
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
2:51 PM
So much to do, so little time to sleep.. yawns
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
@MarcGravell Sorry, was getting ready for work, desktop mentions from either the userscript or the "chat infrastructure"
@MarcGravell Oh you should totally do that for debug for yourself, plus it would be fun to spring on people on Friday's :p
Somebody @ me? Pretty please, wanna check something
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@drachenstern sure
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
@TimStone bah, just goto bed ... :p
Ok, I think I like rcherns better than marcs ... sorry guys. Also, @MarcGravell how long does yours take to go away? Must I click on it?
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@drachenstern There's a little x button that should dismiss it
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
Yeah, but that's hardly helpful IMever-soHO
edits double it
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
2:58 PM
@MarcGravell Presumably this second notification is your doing, so can we shorten the title text to "Reply from <user>:", and have it disappear after a while? :)
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
That's what I'm getting at!
And we know he's lurking ;)
lul, "Serious Putty"? Seems like Randall's a little off today ...
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
This is really cool though, means that I can sneak it out of the userscript.
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
@TimStone not till he fixes it :p
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
Did you see the mouse over? :P
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
on what?
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
3:01 PM
the xkcd
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
Serious puTTY :P
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
Yes, still didn't feel it was that funny
Impact ... really?
for a terminal window? It's not even a good fixed width font!
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@drachenstern You mean you actually know of a good bold monospaced font? :P
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
@YiJiang I barely know of a good monospaced font ;)
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
Anyway, the Prism app is done. Some things are still a little weird, but it should work pretty well I think
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
3:04 PM
So I've been hearing you talk about this prism app, what is it? got a linky?
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
Ironically, with the apt gotten version of Prism I now have file association with .webapp files, on a platform which the docs say should not work with
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
I just love this stupid error message, makes it so tricky to figure out just what broke: 
XML Parsing Error: no element found
Location: REDACTED.com/…
Line Number 1, Column 1:


^
So I think I'm gonna block two people on twitter and facebook simultaneously. Think they'll notice?
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
naaah
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
Hang on, I'll drop a copy onto my Dropbox. I think I might still want to polish it up a little
You'll need the Prism add-on for Firefox, or the standalone app thingadongdong
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
3:20 PM
> To All Students, All network services are up and operational again. Our apologies for any inconvenience this may cause.
Always annoying when the network goes back up, yes...
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
Well they can't very well send you an email while it's down can they? Altho that would be an ultimate case of CYA
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
Well, presumably they're apologising for any inconvenience the outage may have caused, but they didn't say that, so. :P
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
The Prism bundle
Oops... I forgot to remove the Firebug Lite getScript from the JavaScript file there
Ah well... it can't do any harm. I'll go remove it
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
Then I'll wait
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
Updated. Same file
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
3:28 PM
@TimStone well yeah I noticed that. I personally would've delivered a copy of the email to each local mailbox as a CYA hey you're getting this mail while the networks down, sorry you can't read it. PS: the network is down.
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
:P
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
There's a version of Greasemonkey that runs on Prism. Hang on while I restart Firefox...
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
So if ~50% of the userbase runs that version, and about ~1/3 of the supernodes were on that version of skype, then that means that probably another ~1/3 of the supernodes were on the copies of skype that weren't that version, which means that skype is responsible in it's datacenter for probably roughly ~1/3 of the supernodes for skype in the first place. Since we can estimate how many users use skype (we know how many are online at any one time yes?) then we know something ...
what it is we know I'm not really sure just yet, but interesting stuff nonetheless
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
Here's the repo for the GM for Prism thingadongdong: github.com/teramako/greasemonkey-for-prism
Since I'm on Ubuntu right now I thought I might as well pull a copy and build it
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
So prism lets you build a framed webapp as a desktop app, so pretty much what chrome did with their version of the same thing then?
Since I use my FX for my daily testing for our core product, I'm not gonna disrupt that config further than I already have so I'll have to lookit later
starred for finding ;)
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
3:37 PM
@drachenstern Yeah, except that I looked at the ability for Prism to bundle a set of js and CSS files, and tried to make use of those
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
when did @MarcGravell leave and is he gonna fix our chatnotification? wah wah wah
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
Yup, GM works! \o/
I'll drop the xpi file into my dropbox too
Greasemonkey .xpi file: dl.dropbox.com/u/1722364/…
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
3:51 PM
yawns
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@RebeccaChernoff Good morning my sleeping beauty :P
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
morning sleepyhead (@yijiang :p)
lol, jinx
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
o:
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@RebeccaChernoff How often do you update the userscript on stackflair.com?
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
Oh, erm, not in a while. q:
I've just been linking people to the repo
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
3:53 PM
@RebeccaChernoff Geesh... that's the link I give out to people, ya know?
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
But hrm, I guess the pinned messages still have that eh?
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@RebeccaChernoff Yup
in JavaScript on Stack Overflow Chat, Nov 9 at 22:04, by Yi Jiang
Keyboard shortcuts and IRC-like /commands for chat: Install Link and Github site
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
just put a redirect 301 on those scripts to the github locale
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
Brilliant. Grrr... @MarcGravell
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
Um, ok, so I see @MarcGravell added notifications, but, uh, do they go away??
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
3:54 PM
errr, not a 301 probably
@RebeccaChernoff no, sadly, they do not
see :418236 ish
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
Kinda like that a feature from the userscript is being integrated into core. Really do not like it not aging away. >_<
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
Yeah I don't care for that omission, but glad for you that a feature became mainlined ;)
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@RebeccaChernoff Go and bunny poke @MarcGravell. With a stick.
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
I think you just did...
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
ah-ha, a 302 redirect says "for now go there, but keep checking here in the future"
I think @MarcGravell is sleeping ... hmmm
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
3:56 PM
@RebeccaChernoff But hey, one is never enough, right? ;)
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
Tis the middle of the afternoon for him!
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@drachenstern When I should be sleeping? Nah!
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
@YiJiang lol, during the nighttime of course
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
Hrm. No way to get Chrome to show me userscript notifications and not core notifications.
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
@RebeccaChernoff well he surely isn't removing that offending bit of code is he? ;) ... I believe the fade-out code has already been written and tested, and just needs to be integrated in. Even if he left it for 30 seconds or a minute, so long as the growl left I would be ok
@RebeccaChernoff yeah, I considered that too earlier, sadly not
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
3:58 PM
Moving the chat Prism to a new workspace should improve my productivity by ten folds :P
Now I just need to create one for SO and SE chat and offshore those to Prism too
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
Wonder if he looked at the userscript at all. (:
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
Hmm, I should probably post on Meta about the Keyboard Shortcut script. Nothing is really happening with it as I don't know what to change really. Seems fine enough for me for a v1.
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@RebeccaChernoff Want an ad for the Open Source sidebar thingadongdong?
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
o:
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
4:03 PM
keyboard shortcut script?
what's it do?
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
We're near the deadline here though. I thought I saw some of those ads online already.
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
Adds keyboard shortcuts (;
Deadline?
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
lol, you don't say. what do those keyboard shortcuts do?
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
q:
keyboard navigation for SE sites.
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
got a 20 second keyboard pitch?
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
4:04 PM
@RebeccaChernoff The OSS sidebar ad thing has a deadline if you want the ads to be displayed in the first half of next year
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
do you mean I can wasd myself to bliss?
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
If not it'll be second half of next year, which would be a pretty long wait
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
is it in the github readme?
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
@YiJiang Oh, hrm. I had not pondered this.
Someone should really contribute to that script and cleanup the look of that dialog. q:
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
4:05 PM
Given that I'm already seeing ads from the question, I'm not sure if that deadline has already been passed
Also remember the required number of votes
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
Why do I suddenly feel eyes partly roving over me? hmmm
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
@YiJiang I have no idea how it works.
Link?
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
65
Q: Open Source Advertising - Sidebar - 2H 2010

Robert CartainoIt's time once again to support your favorite open source project through our Free Vote-Based Advertising for Open Source Projects. We are clearing the leader boards to start the second half of 2010 anew. Here is your chance to create a Free Vote-Based Advertisement for an Open Source Project. C...

discussion open-source-advertising crowdsourcing
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
@drachenstern Haha, I didn't necessarily mean you, though you did say last night you wanted to be #4 (;
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
lol, I see :p ;) I'mma take a look at it right now ... maybe have some ideas quickly
grrr, I want that window to fade out!!!
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
4:08 PM
@YiJiang Seems like that was for 2H 2010, not 1H 2011...
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@RebeccaChernoff Admittedly, I'm not quite sure how that thing works either
I mean, that's how I thought the thing worked
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
Stack Overflow Blog: Free Vote-Based Advertising Launches Second Round
Robert Cartaino

It’s time once again to support your favorite open source project through our Free Vote-Based Advertising for Open Source Projects. We are clearing the leader boards to start the second half of 2010 anew.

For the past six months, Stack Overflow has been providing free advertising for open source projects. For those of you who missed it the last time around, this is a true, grass roots movement for programmers to publicize their favorite open source projects. Users create the ads, users vote for their favorites, and Stack Overflow features them in a sidebar ad slot. …

2
I think once an ad post gets 6 votes, it starts appearing as an ad. And the 2H 2010 period started 6/11 and goes for about 6 months.
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@RebeccaChernoff Which means that the next one will be starting soon
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
So it would seem. (:
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
Hmmm... do you want one for the scripts?
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
4:11 PM
Yeah, would be cool.
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
4:47 PM
I just crashed Firefox by writing out a simple script into my console that progressively loads new pages in the mod tools...
I thought 12 pages would be a good number of pages to load, but apparently not
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
Heh. Nice edit, yo. (;
 
George Stocker
George Stocker
Can someone else try to reproduce this so I don't feel like it's just me? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/73467/…
1
Q: Able to vote on comments for a deleted question

George StockerI'm able to vote on comments to deleted answers on deleted questions. The proof, as they say, is in the pudding: I did this multiple times in this post, in fact the "4" with the upvote is another one I just did in the post, but I had forgotten to take a screenshot before I did it. I also ma...

bug voting comment-voting deletion
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
Not 10K, sorry. ):
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@GeorgeStocker Yup. I can too. I'm not sure if that's [by-design] though
 
George Stocker
George Stocker
Are you 10K On any site, Reb?
Thanks Yi.
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
4:52 PM
@GeorgeStocker She's mod on WA, hmmm
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
Neg.
 
George Stocker
George Stocker
It doesn't seem like it should be [by-design]
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
Well, mod on WA yeah.
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@GeorgeStocker True, given that the question comments are locked
Hang on, isn't that because Bill locked the question?
 
George Stocker
George Stocker
Yea, but since it's deleted, we shouldn't be able to vote on it.
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
4:56 PM
@GeorgeStocker I just tried - you can do it on unlocked questions too
 
George Stocker
George Stocker
unlocked/deleted questions?
 
Yi Jiang
Yi Jiang
@GeorgeStocker Only spam/offensive deletes are auto-locked I think, so those deleted by three 10k'er aren't locked. I think
 
George Stocker
George Stocker
When you try to upvote a deleted answer, you get a 'Hey, you can't do that, this post is deleted' but not for comments.
 
drachenstern
drachenstern
@GeorgeStocker correct, has been that way for some time
Also I commented on the post in meta, cos that's what I think is going on ...
 
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