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12:49 AM
I think that's like stating 1 person who writes the complete 100 lines on the logic... doesn't do as much of the work compared to others who write 9900 lines refactoring the code... while the 9900 lines of code won't eventually work without the original 100 lines...
clean architecture! (or FizzBuzz Enterprise Edition)
@GetAnswerWizard Happen to see Nick Craver's recent tweets by any chance?
I don't Twitter, I guess not
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2:24 AM
Should we create a canonical duplicate for spell checkers? We continue to get questions about it that cannot otherwise be closed as duplicates.
2:36 AM
@SonictheWizardWerehog could let it age out....
@JourneymanGeek Was posted three days ago, will take a further eleven for it to age out
3:04 AM
Or as people star other things
4:01 AM
@AaronHall There's two things funny 'bout that. The cup is held to be the face of the person in the background. Also this comment: "Because no one like cold fries n nuggets with warm soda", that's the U$20 Grub Tub. Idea stolen from here:
Nothing beats the U$50! New York Jets Breakfast Bagel:
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5:27 AM
@SonictheWizardWerehog meta.stackexchange.com/questions/326734/… this apparently is for your attention
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downvoted for asking comment when downvoting
@JourneymanGeek it apparently is also for your attention
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6:45 AM
How I love working saturday
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8:07 AM
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8:30 AM
Why's the character limit for 'off-topic, something else' a 100 characters shorter than that of a comment?
8:45 AM
@Tinkeringbell I suspect one of the fields in the database that keeps that custom reason only allows for so many
@rene it's kind of annoying :P
PostHistory.comment is nvarchar(400) for example although I don't see the custom close reason in the public SEDE.
Time to hunt down who made the database and thought it was a good idea to take a different limit ;)
@Tinkeringbell I answered the thing before: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/258856/…
Woah, nice :)
8:49 AM
@Tinkeringbell blame Jeff
@GetAnswerWizard uh. umh. And a few other folks
9:05 AM
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 43 secs ago, by Makyen
Autoflagging is broken, again (SE API rate limits). Nick Craver has been pinged. Autoflagging won't work for an unknown period of time. More information: current problem; more info from previous problem: short version; long version.
oh, fun..
im at work doing network maintenance
@Magisch more fun...
9:28 AM
Oh, yay...more Smokey posts, more chimney sweeps
9:39 AM
Do moderators have any meta-data on comment votes beyond score? Dates? Number of retracted votes?
not that I know of
must admit I never searched for those either ;)
At best SE staff has a bit more, if at all, given how important comments are
10:14 AM
@Tinkeringbell and done at work
It's not bad when it happens, I get a full day off for 3 hours of work usually
@Magisch That actually sounds like a good deal :)
@Tinkeringbell weekend work is 2x time and 4 hr minimum
In the owner's own words it forces them to consider and only order it when necessary
10:36 AM
If things are going the way they are, I'll have the first defunct airline in my flight log
11:25 AM
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There's something ironic about spelling "accessibility" as "a11y". — Lightness Races in Orbit 21 hours ago
11:48 AM
I think its actually quite a good idea to have a conditional "skip to content button" like google. Pretty nifty design.
@SonictheWizardWerehog Jet?
yeah, I was bored...
12:03 PM
@GetAnswerWizard Saw a funny one earlier... apparently escort services can now double as tech support. XD
@JNat Network-wide username reset please: stackexchange.com/users/123542͏͏͏
They're exploiting some flaw to make their name appear blank
@SonictheWizardWerehog They should probably find out what exactly first, and perhaps fix meta.stackexchange.com/q/326747/369802. Resetting it won't do much good now...
You'd basically destroy the evidence
seems already reset...
I pinged JG in a separate room asking them to reset their SU username
@GetAnswerWizard Fun, now we'll never find out what happened XD
12:07 PM
@Tinkeringbell Their stackexchange.com profile is still cached as blank
Ah, well, hopefully someone looks to see how they did that then, before resetting that too ;)
But FWIW their username consisted of the following escape sequences: %CD%8F%CD%8F%CD%8F
I managed to capture an old link prior to the reset
Perhaps at least drop that in comment on the question then, as Glorfindel said they didn't have time to find out
Well, the history of previous usernames are recorded... and they can directly hack the database if needed
@GetAnswerWizard I don't think history shows the special characters needed to build a weird name... just the weird name itself.
12:18 PM
The characters themselves should be stored, as was the case here
Q: Comments: You've heard of +1, you've heard of -1. Now get ready for ±0!

user45266In comments, some people voluntarily write "+1" or "-1" to indicate what they did vote-wise on the post. But when people want to say that they weren't the person who downvoted, there's no way to really say that concisely. So I propose "±0", which would function the exact same way but mean that th...

I don't get these
How can you propose a change to how people talk?
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard Just like that :P
Suppose everyone agreed that +0/-0 is magnificent. How many would use it?
Do people have to use it? :P
If they don't the discussion would be pointless
12:31 PM
± x-√x too simple for comment
It's hypothetical too, nobody actually liked saying it
Q: What do they "say..."?

gnatI recently noticed rather unusual pattern in some question titles: these start with word "say", followed by what I would call a real title, in quotation marks. After noticing pair of such questions I run this simple search and it looks rather popular (I listed some recent examples below). These ...

12:49 PM
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard you can propose anything. Even anyone... Unless they have a restraining order...
1:37 PM
$ cowsay "Ask Question Wizard is great"
< Ask Question Wizard is great >
        \   ^__^
         \  (oo)\_______
            (__)\       )\/\
                ||----w |
                ||     ||
1:49 PM
needz unicornsay verzion!1!
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6:37 PM
It has been updated, but I got distracted for a moment...
also, oh boy, do we love posts about favicon that suddenly making less sense? :)
7:01 PM
That's why we don't allow links to code on SO
@JourneymanGeek Became Metal Journeyman Geek again?
I'm at work ;p
and sidebars are an easy way to keep an eye on chat on vivaldi
Though the most recent answer was me forgetting what user was logged...
@Aibobot There are comments, and someone's downvoted, so might as well retain those and prevent your main account from losing rep
@SonictheWizardWerehog probably you ;p
also, rep's not important when you hit 50K
7:10 PM
...and being a mod, plus a -2 loss on a 150-rep account is a lot heavier
I don't care about rep
I mean, seriously, there's no point in nickle and diming reputation points
He's lying he's lying
Actually, the sock requires to have low reputation to enjoy feel new user's experience...
I just post answers and let the community do as they like ;)
@GetAnswerWizard if it gets too high I can bounty ;p
put a 500-rep bounty on the Aibobot's answer
7:12 PM
@GetAnswerWizard I've been posting pretty big bounties on SU with aibobot whenever someone saves me a good chunk of time ;p
flagged Aibobot's answer as abusive ;p
Haha, nonsensical:
@Blue If X and Y have no correlation, then they are consistent with each other, aren't they? Say, drinking milk is consistent with being a plumber, right? — user49915 41 secs ago
this user49915...
The problem with the question to me is it conflates two things that are unrelated.
Oh, we have a new form of entertainment and you guys didn't tell me?
7:15 PM
COC is entirely about how we treat each other
Mechanics, while they take humans into account, are also about efficently handling things.
I never played CoC
The only way to win is not to play after all ;)
Nah that's Tetris
(in the movie, tic tac toe)
@SonictheWizardWerehog I get the idea you don't like that guy.
No, I was just pointing out the logical fallacies. But, removed.
7:23 PM
Oh, some other stuff. Previous posts... you get what I mean ;)
dude does leave a lot a comments, but I'm sure the mods will be handling it shortly XD
wished to bake some corn pop since last week
AFAIR they just came off a 7-day suspension for low-quality contributions; maybe since the quality of their contributions hasn't gone up, maybe a 30-day suspension is needed? (Just musing)
Preferably not
Is that what it shows as the reason?
ah. hm. Ok
anyway, Its not the same as last time.
7:28 PM
Should I drop the bomb? Should I?
A: Is TeX.SX a competition arena?

user49915Should be a comment, but too long for a comment: If you compare with a few years ago, then it got partially better in my opinion, since recently the mods (whether our mods or site-wide mods) finally took some action to ban a high-score user (who was unruly years ago, imho). It also got partially...

And yes, I did talk about tweeting their previous post. I previously decided against it, but after seeing Yvette's tweet with a similar post, I changed my mind.
@SonictheWizardWerehog hm.
I didn't think that was very helpful personally
We'd already handled it - and it made it look like we didn't
Did you see the ensuing threads?
and well, do you want to actually hand more ammunition to critics?
Honestly? I was too annoyed to want to.
@Aibobot I did point out that it was deleted. (I didn't want to have to black out more names.)
7:30 PM
And I noticed that Tim was aware, and left it to him
@SonictheWizardWerehog But most folks would see "Toxic Post"
not "It was deleted" (twice!)
@GetAnswerWizard those meta monsters
Cause I personally felt the way the post was worded was aimed at causing arguement.
And there were multiple other issues
But I doubt folks are going to care about the nuances
Especially who you @tted
The verb is "pung"
Do you even engish
7:37 PM
Apparently not
Wait, this all happened in a span of two-ish hours?
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard naw a few days back
and over a few weeks
I expected a week-long . . . adventure
Oh, better
Despite default open-moderation
I don't always talk about off site stuff that annoys me, even when it involves the network
Well, you got a taste of how mods feel on meta.ELU I guess
7:39 PM
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard well, yelling at people wouldn't have done much good
@Aibobot Which makes you feel even more robotic
Can you even count how many times I've ranted about politics?
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard I pick the hills to die on. Usually one s I don't die on.
that works really well ;)
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard lots?
That's cheating. Give me a number
If I had that many dimes
I could even convert them to reputation points maybe
7:42 PM
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard it wouldn't have done much good
and well, sometimes you gotta trust folks to handle things. I literally only saw it cause someone had already replied
In a few years
I trust you, Aibogeek
And stepping on their toes would have not helped ;)
And as a mod, I got a way to get eyes on stuff like that ;)
7:46 PM
Q: Did the new image of black hole confirm the general theory of relativity?

LiquidHow can we do it just by looking at the image. But I heard in news saying "Einstein was right! black hole image confirms GTR. The image is so less detailed that I can't even make some pretty good points. Please correct me if I'm wrong on any aspect. Please provide a link if this question sounds...

Imagine it was "no, it conflicted" and physicists suddenly had to redo the last 80 years
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard is that 'lol' in MARtian?
oh, i was right!
NAA probably
Autoflogging still MIA?
8:01 PM
Was fixed this morning
8:17 PM
Q: Is it feasible to deplatform a user off of SE using a small group of people, and if so how to prevent it

VijayGuptaBackstory: I'll start this off by saying my reputation is at 1 for a reason. Not disputing that. My main concern is the manner in which this happened. It's readily apparent that at least two users were involved in deliberately lowering the total number of reputation on my accounts across unrel...

"deplatform" Kinda like the pulling chair prank
I like that word
@PolyGeo Stackexchange. — PL_OLCOTT 33 mins ago
no ur face is Stackexchange
Does calling someone Stackexchange violate CoC?
8:33 PM
calling calling someone StackExchange a CoC violation is a CoC violation
8:48 PM
like defenestration, but deplatformed
> no es una respuesta
OK, probably gonna learn Spanish after German
Death treat
Or maybe threats of serial downvoting
@PikachuthePurpleWizard I see a lot of users getting downvoted if they seem to be better than the moderators when they answer... I might be wrong but it’s weird... — Marybnq 22 hours ago
Oh, genetically engineered advanced cyborgs
I am genuinely petrified
Rechecking if the posts he downvoted are from cyborgs Oh phew, I'm off the hooks
9:08 PM
Calling CoC a CoC is violatong CoC
9:52 PM
The heavy wind here is creating a very huge noise here on the top floor of my apartment building
10:10 PM
Whew - Ry- just went to town on stackoverflow.com/q/1789945/1709587. I mean, Bhargav started it at my bidding, but he's taken it further than I ever thought the mods would be willing to. There were three pages of answers this morning, and now there are three answers.
I wonder if there's gonna be a Meta post soon challenging it as an improper use of mod powers. :)
Is your main concern wiping away people's work, or lost rep?
My concern? I think it was the right thing to do.
But I think it's sufficiently drastic that others may disagree

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