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00:49

I think that's like stating 1 person who writes the complete 100 lines on the logic... doesn't do as much of the work compared to others who write 9900 lines refactoring the code... while the 9900 lines of code won't eventually work without the original 100 lines...

clean architecture! (or FizzBuzz Enterprise Edition)

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

@GetAnswerWizard Happen to see Nick Craver's recent tweets by any chance?

Get Answer Wizard

I don't Twitter, I guess not

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

02:24

Should we create a canonical duplicate for spell checkers? We continue to get questions about it that cannot otherwise be closed as duplicates.

Journeyman Geek

02:36

@SonictheWizardWerehog could let it age out....

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

@JourneymanGeek Was posted three days ago, will take a further eleven for it to age out

Journeyman Geek

03:04

Or as people star other things

Rob

04:01

@AaronHall There's two things funny 'bout that. The cup is held to be the face of the person in the background. Also this comment: "Because no one like cold fries n nuggets with warm soda", that's the U$20 Grub Tub. Idea stolen from here:

Nothing beats the U$50! New York Jets Breakfast Bagel:

Journeyman Geek

05:27

@SonictheWizardWerehog meta.stackexchange.com/questions/326734/… this apparently is for your attention

→ 15 messages moved to Chimney

Get Answer Wizard

downvoted for asking comment when downvoting

@JourneymanGeek it apparently is also for your attention

Magisch

06:45

How I love working saturday

rene

08:07

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Tinkeringbell

08:30

Why's the character limit for 'off-topic, something else' a 100 characters shorter than that of a comment?

rene

08:45

@Tinkeringbell I suspect one of the fields in the database that keeps that custom reason only allows for so many

Tinkeringbell

@rene it's kind of annoying :P

rene

PostHistory.comment is nvarchar(400) for example although I don't see the custom close reason in the public SEDE.

Tinkeringbell

Time to hunt down who made the database and thought it was a good idea to take a different limit ;)

rene

@Tinkeringbell I answered the thing before: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/258856/…

Tinkeringbell

Woah, nice :)

rene

08:49

@Tinkeringbell blame Jeff

Journeyman Geek

@GetAnswerWizard uh. umh. And a few other folks

Tinkeringbell

09:05

in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 43 secs ago, by Makyen

Autoflagging is broken, again (SE API rate limits). Nick Craver has been pinged. Autoflagging won't work for an unknown period of time. More information: current problem; more info from previous problem: short version; long version.

oh, fun..

Magisch

im at work doing network maintenance

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch more fun...

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

09:28

Oh, yay...more Smokey posts, more chimney sweeps

rene

09:39

Do moderators have any meta-data on comment votes beyond score? Dates? Number of retracted votes?

Tinkeringbell

not that I know of

must admit I never searched for those either ;)

rene

At best SE staff has a bit more, if at all, given how important comments are

Magisch

10:14

@Tinkeringbell and done at work

It's not bad when it happens, I get a full day off for 3 hours of work usually

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch That actually sounds like a good deal :)

Magisch

@Tinkeringbell weekend work is 2x time and 4 hr minimum

In the owner's own words it forces them to consider and only order it when necessary

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

10:36

If things are going the way they are, I'll have the first defunct airline in my flight log

Tinkeringbell

11:25

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Get Answer Wizard

There's something ironic about spelling "accessibility" as "a11y". — Lightness Races in Orbit 21 hours ago

Magisch

11:48

I think its actually quite a good idea to have a conditional "skip to content button" like google. Pretty nifty design.

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheWizardWerehog Jet?

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

Yes

Get Answer Wizard

yeah, I was bored...

Tinkeringbell

12:03

@GetAnswerWizard Saw a funny one earlier... apparently escort services can now double as tech support. XD

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

@JNat Network-wide username reset please: stackexchange.com/users/123542͏͏͏

They're exploiting some flaw to make their name appear blank

Tinkeringbell

@SonictheWizardWerehog They should probably find out what exactly first, and perhaps fix meta.stackexchange.com/q/326747/369802. Resetting it won't do much good now...

You'd basically destroy the evidence

Get Answer Wizard

seems already reset...

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

I pinged JG in a separate room asking them to reset their SU username

Tinkeringbell

@GetAnswerWizard Fun, now we'll never find out what happened XD

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

12:07

@Tinkeringbell Their stackexchange.com profile is still cached as blank

Tinkeringbell

Ah, well, hopefully someone looks to see how they did that then, before resetting that too ;)

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

But FWIW their username consisted of the following escape sequences: %CD%8F%CD%8F%CD%8F

I managed to capture an old link prior to the reset

Tinkeringbell

Perhaps at least drop that in comment on the question then, as Glorfindel said they didn't have time to find out

Get Answer Wizard

Well, the history of previous usernames are recorded... and they can directly hack the database if needed

Tinkeringbell

@GetAnswerWizard I don't think history shows the special characters needed to build a weird name... just the weird name itself.

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

12:18

The characters themselves should be stored, as was the case here

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

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Q: Comments: You've heard of +1, you've heard of -1. Now get ready for ±0!

In comments, some people voluntarily write "+1" or "-1" to indicate what they did vote-wise on the post. But when people want to say that they weren't the person who downvoted, there's no way to really say that concisely. So I propose "±0", which would function the exact same way but mean that th...

I don't get these

How can you propose a change to how people talk?

Tinkeringbell

@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard Just like that :P

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

Suppose everyone agreed that +0/-0 is magnificent. How many would use it?

Tinkeringbell

Do people have to use it? :P

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

If they don't the discussion would be pointless

Get Answer Wizard

12:31

± x-√x too simple for comment

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

It's hypothetical too, nobody actually liked saying it

Get Answer Wizard

13

Q: What do they "say..."?

I recently noticed rather unusual pattern in some question titles: these start with word "say", followed by what I would call a real title, in quotation marks. After noticing pair of such questions I run this simple search and it looks rather popular (I listed some recent examples below). These ...

support asking-questions title

Mystery solved. — Cody Gray ♦ 3 hours ago

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️

Tinkeringbell

lol

Journeyman Geek

12:49

@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard you can propose anything. Even anyone... Unless they have a restraining order...

user302202

13:37

$ cowsay "Ask Question Wizard is great"
 ______________________________
< Ask Question Wizard is great >
 ------------------------------
        \   ^__^
         \  (oo)\_______
            (__)\       )\/\
                ||----w |
                ||     ||

Get Answer Wizard

13:49

needz unicornsay verzion!1!

Get Answer Wizard

18:37

It has been updated, but I got distracted for a moment...

also, oh boy, do we love posts about favicon that suddenly making less sense? :)

John Dvorak

19:01

That's why we don't allow links to code on SO

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

@JourneymanGeek Became Metal Journeyman Geek again?

Aibobot

I'm at work ;p

and sidebars are an easy way to keep an eye on chat on vivaldi

Though the most recent answer was me forgetting what user was logged...

oops

Get Answer Wizard

oops

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

@Aibobot There are comments, and someone's downvoted, so might as well retain those and prevent your main account from losing rep

Aibobot

@SonictheWizardWerehog probably you ;p

also, rep's not important when you hit 50K

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

19:10

...and being a mod, plus a -2 loss on a 150-rep account is a lot heavier

Aibobot

shrug

I don't care about rep

I mean, seriously, there's no point in nickle and diming reputation points

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

He's lying he's lying

Get Answer Wizard

Actually, the sock requires to have low reputation to ~~enjoy~~ feel new user's experience...

Aibobot

I just post answers and let the community do as they like ;)

@GetAnswerWizard if it gets too high I can bounty ;p

Get Answer Wizard

put a 500-rep bounty on the Aibobot's answer

Aibobot

19:12

@GetAnswerWizard I've been posting pretty big bounties on SU with aibobot whenever someone saves me a good chunk of time ;p

Get Answer Wizard

flagged Aibobot's answer as abusive ;p

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

Haha, nonsensical:

@Blue If X and Y have no correlation, then they are consistent with each other, aren't they? Say, drinking milk is consistent with being a plumber, right? — user49915 41 secs ago

Get Answer Wizard

this user49915...

Aibobot

The problem with the question to me is it conflates two things that are unrelated.

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

Oh, we have a new form of entertainment and you guys didn't tell me?

:/

Aibobot

19:15

COC is entirely about how we treat each other

Mechanics, while they take humans into account, are also about efficently handling things.

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

I never played CoC

Aibobot

The only way to win is not to play after all ;)

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

Nah that's Tetris

Aibobot

(in the movie, tic tac toe)

@SonictheWizardWerehog I get the idea you don't like that guy.

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

No, I was just pointing out the logical fallacies. But, removed.

Aibobot

19:23

Oh, some other stuff. Previous posts... you get what I mean ;)

dude does leave a lot a comments, but I'm sure the mods will be handling it shortly XD

Get Answer Wizard

wished to bake some corn pop since last week

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

AFAIR they just came off a 7-day suspension for low-quality contributions; maybe since the quality of their contributions hasn't gone up, maybe a 30-day suspension is needed? (Just musing)

Aibobot

ehhhh

Preferably not

Is that what it shows as the reason?

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

Yes

Aibobot

*showed

ah. hm. Ok

anyway, Its not the same as last time.

Get Answer Wizard

19:28

Should I drop the bomb? Should I?

-4

A: Is TeX.SX a competition arena?

Should be a comment, but too long for a comment: If you compare with a few years ago, then it got partially better in my opinion, since recently the mods (whether our mods or site-wide mods) finally took some action to ban a high-score user (who was unruly years ago, imho). It also got partially...

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

And yes, I did talk about tweeting their previous post. I previously decided against it, but after seeing Yvette's tweet with a similar post, I changed my mind.

Aibobot

@SonictheWizardWerehog hm.

I didn't think that was very helpful personally

We'd already handled it - and it made it look like we didn't

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

Did you see the ensuing threads?

Aibobot

and well, do you want to actually hand more ammunition to critics?

Honestly? I was too annoyed to want to.

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

@Aibobot I did point out that it was deleted. (I didn't want to have to black out more names.)

Aibobot

19:30

And I noticed that Tim was aware, and left it to him

@SonictheWizardWerehog But most folks would see "Toxic Post"

not "It was deleted" (twice!)

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

@GetAnswerWizard those meta monsters

Aibobot

Cause I personally felt the way the post was worded was aimed at causing arguement.

And there were multiple other issues

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

Plumbing?

Aibobot

But I doubt folks are going to care about the nuances

Especially who you @tted

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

The verb is "pung"

Do you even engish

Aibobot

19:37

point.

Apparently not

pung.

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

Wait, this all happened in a span of two-ish hours?

Aibobot

@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard naw a few days back

and over a few weeks

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

I expected a week-long . . . adventure

Oh, better

Aibobot

Despite default open-moderation

I don't always talk about off site stuff that annoys me, even when it involves the network

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

Well, you got a taste of how mods feel on meta.ELU I guess

Aibobot

19:39

lol

@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard well, yelling at people wouldn't have done much good

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

@Aibobot Which makes you feel even more robotic

Can you even count how many times I've ranted about politics?

Aibobot

@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard I pick the hills to die on. Usually one s I don't die on.

that works really well ;)

@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard lots?

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

That's cheating. Give me a number

Aibobot

4983.2

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

If I had that many dimes

I could even convert them to reputation points maybe

Aibobot

19:42

@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard it wouldn't have done much good

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

Yes it would

Aibobot

and well, sometimes you gotta trust folks to handle things. I literally only saw it cause someone had already replied

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

In a few years

I trust you, Aibogeek

Aibobot

And stepping on their toes would have not helped ;)

And as a mod, I got a way to get eyes on stuff like that ;)

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

IS THAT A THREAT

Get Answer Wizard

19:46

NO, THAT IS A TREAT

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

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Q: Did the new image of black hole confirm the general theory of relativity?

How can we do it just by looking at the image. But I heard in news saying "Einstein was right! black hole image confirms GTR. The image is so less detailed that I can't even make some pretty good points. Please correct me if I'm wrong on any aspect. Please provide a link if this question sounds...

general-relativity black-holes astronomy

Imagine it was "no, it conflicted" and physicists suddenly had to redo the last 80 years

khkhkh

Get Answer Wizard

@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard is that 'lol' in MARtian?

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

No it's rofl

Get Answer Wizard

oh, i was right!

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

NAA probably

Autoflogging still MIA?

ArtOfCode

20:01

nope

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

Was fixed this morning

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

20:17

Yay

-3

Q: Is it feasible to deplatform a user off of SE using a small group of people, and if so how to prevent it

Backstory: I'll start this off by saying my reputation is at 1 for a reason. Not disputing that. My main concern is the manner in which this happened. It's readily apparent that at least two users were involved in deliberately lowering the total number of reputation on my accounts across unrel...

discussion serial-voting

"deplatform" Kinda like the pulling chair prank

John Dvorak

I like that word

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

@PolyGeo Stackexchange. — PL_OLCOTT 33 mins ago

no ur face is Stackexchange

Does calling someone Stackexchange violate CoC?

John Dvorak

20:33

calling calling someone StackExchange a CoC violation is a CoC violation

Félix Gagnon-Grenier

20:48

like defenestration, but deplatformed

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

> no es una respuesta

OK, probably gonna learn Spanish after German

Death treat

Or maybe threats of serial downvoting

@PikachuthePurpleWizard I see a lot of users getting downvoted if they seem to be better than the moderators when they answer... I might be wrong but it’s weird... — Marybnq 22 hours ago

Oh, genetically engineered advanced cyborgs

I am genuinely petrified

Rechecking if the posts he downvoted are from cyborgs Oh phew, I'm off the hooks

Get Answer Wizard

21:08

Calling CoC a CoC is violatong CoC

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

21:52

The heavy wind here is creating a very huge noise here on the top floor of my apartment building

Mark Amery

22:10

Whew - Ry- just went to town on stackoverflow.com/q/1789945/1709587. I mean, Bhargav started it at my bidding, but he's taken it further than I ever thought the mods would be willing to. There were three pages of answers this morning, and now there are three answers.

I wonder if there's gonna be a Meta post soon challenging it as an improper use of mod powers. :)

Sonic the Wizard Werehog

Is your main concern wiping away people's work, or lost rep?

Mark Amery

My concern? I think it was the right thing to do.

But I think it's sufficiently drastic that others may disagree

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