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6:29 AM
@MarkAmery agree it's wrong on the verge of mod abuse, yes. Flagged the question asking to undelete the answers.
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard actually Visualstudio
 
@ShadowWizard Looks like your wish got fulfilled
 
@ShadowWizard Now that's user abuse
User ShadowWizard has too many powers. Someone stop him
 
@GetAnswerWizard heh. That was super quick. Hopefully that mod won't do it again though. Will keep an eye and if he do it again, start meta discussion.
 
I guess 16 answers is the best compromise rather than 3 answers or 3 pages...
 
I don't get the math
 
6:36 AM
16 > 3 or 3
 
That's philosophy not math
 
This will stop me ^^
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard "One is equal to the sum of its parts" is philosophy. ;)
 
6:50 AM
@ShadowWizard A CM has been going through and doing similar things to FAQs here, and actively deleting answers posted to FAQs with requests to edit the info instead.
I don't think that it's abuse if it's done to a de-facto community FAQ (e.g. the NullPointerException question on SO).
@Shadow Should I VTC this so you can reopen it? Or is that abuse?
 
@SonictheWizardWerehog it's different.
and CM isn't just a site mod.
@SonictheWizardWerehog abuse is to close and reopen instantly with a hammer just to clear pending close votes. If it's closed by others, it's not abuse of the hammer.
Voting to close just so it gets reopened isn't abuse, but not needed IMO... if it gets closed ping me and I'll reopen.
 
@ShadowWizard So if I VTC it as a strategic move to enable you to bindingly reopen it so that technically you are not "clearing out the close votes" as per that definition, is that OK? (Can I get input from others on this curious question? I don't plan to do it, I reviewed Leave Open in the queue)
@ShadowWizard It got reviewed "Leave Open" in the queue, but received a fourth external vote
Now that I think about it, it would be abusive if you pinged me saying "hey Sonic, would you please VTC it so that I can reopen it?". But if I out of the blue, without asking you, go ahead and VTC on my own volition and then tell you, "hey Shadow, I've VTC'd this so that you can reopen it", would you follow through on it?
 
7:16 AM
@SonictheWizardWerehog yes, that's correct
 
 
2 hours later…
9:06 AM
TIL: Google Maps has a feature that lets you buy tickets for tourist attractions directly from the map.
Also TIL: Apparently the price they ask for is 12x the price you can get at the place.
 
 
1 hour later…
10:18 AM
@JohnDvorak well, Google is a business, they have to pay their bills somehow. No? ;)
Think how much they pay for electricity for all their computers.
Won't be surprised if they plan to build, or already got, their own nuclear power plant.
 
10:32 AM
Google duplicate meta.stackexchange.com/questions/326772/… @rene @Bart @TravisJ
 
11:00 AM
voted on, needs 1 moar
 
gone!
 
\o/
 
Gone with the shadow of a tinkering flower.... :D
 
@ShadowWizard Uh, hi. Sorry, I deleted my answer temporarily as I am myself not sure about a few things. Regarding your comment: "I think there is notification only if there are answers posted during the bounty period. (So it's pointless to notify the user, no answer can be awarded the bounty.) ": note that it isn't really pointless if there were answers posted before the bounty period too. Often bounties are placed to reward "existing" answers.
 
@SonictheWizardWerehog it's exactly the same
 
11:11 AM
@Blue oh so maybe no answers at all. Both cases I checked had no answers at all.
 
@ShadowWizard Martin's bountied question did have an existing answer.
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Q: Brushing teeth before or after breakfast

AlexanUsually in the morning I brush my teeth after breakfast. But my dentist told me that it's better not brush them right after eating food, because eating makes them soft. So now I brush my teeth before breakfast. Is this the correct procedure? PS. Just found this article, the author has the same ...

 
@Blue also, I'm special case, no need to be sorry for pinging me, on the contrary. I love pings. ;)
 
Also, per the faq:
> Note that even if no one else answered during the bounty period, the grace period is still in effect for 24 hours.
 
@Blue oh. Well, we need someone who really knows, maybe with access to the code, to tell for sure then. e.g. Shog or Adam...
What's "NIO" anyway?? bah
 
@ShadowWizard Hehe, will keep in mind. :P
 
11:15 AM
@ShadowWizard Yeah, I was about to ask, possible spam seed
 
@ShadowWizard Yep, probably. :/
 
@Blue cheers! And if you also love pings, jump to Den and you'll surely get many. :D
@rene yup, hence reported
@rene or anyone else... how can I downgrade android 8 to android 7, or even 6? It's a total nightmare. Slow, buggy, laggy, and what's not. :(
 
@ShadowWizard To ensure folks in Charcoal HQ know why you're reporting a given post, especially if it's not obvious, use the reason feature: !!/report [post(s)] "reason"
 
I knew it's a mistake, but... hoped they will improve things without making it sloooow. Of course it was false hope.
 
@ShadowWizard has 2 "normal" looking answers on SO
 
11:19 AM
@rene hmm
meh, still spammy enough on MSE
 
@ShadowWizard you can't unless the phone once supported ot
Even then it's tricky
 
@SonictheWizardWerehog tried it once it didn't work, thought the reason is another post.
@JourneymanGeek :(
 
@ShadowWizard It works; the reason is a text string. It doesn't show up in the chat message due to technical constraints, but it does show up in the metasmoke page
...and to users using userscripts
 
@ShadowWizard I've posted a cv-pls in socvr for the SO question.
 
12:14 PM
worldwide whatsapp outage ;p
 
@Aibobot Apparently the Netherlands aren't a part of this world ;)
 
@Aibobot likely @nical fault... ;)
 
12:27 PM
@JourneymanGeek Downdetector is fun too: downdetector.com
 
I wish Facebook will stay down for good.
Go go hackers! Or whoever took it down!
:D
 
@ShadowWizard noooes! my crochet group friends :)
 
@Tinkeringbell meet them in person, much better :D
 
@ShadowWizard expensive though
 
oh no facebook.com is not down :(
 
12:44 PM
lol
My workplace relies heavily on whatsapp soooooo
 
WhatsApp is a must, yeah.
But Facebook is "evil for fun".
So can be safely closed.
No dancing cats, people will live with that.
 
I don't like whatsapp 😭
 
But it's a must these days to contact other people. :/
@user49915 hey, hope you understand by now that downvotes are not personal?
Sleepy? Maybe coffee will help then...
!!/coffee user
 
@ShadowWizard brews a cup of Cappuccino for @user
 
waffles!
 
12:50 PM
*stroopwafels
 
@ShadowWizard whyyyyyyuuu?
 
user508672
@ShadowWizard I looked up the transcript above; some folks here simply had fun on what I wrote. Alright; do it. Btw., I hate coffee; I prefer tea ;-). But you couldn't know it; thanks anyway.
 
@user49915 I do feel the way you ask questions dosen't help. It's very much 'i have an opinion. Change my mind'
 
@ShadowWizard Why do you think those answers are useful to preserve?
 
user508672
@JourneymanGeek I do have an opinion - everyone has, you too. But I do my best to formulate my questions with my opinion hidden or, if it's not possible, allow the folks to disagree in an answer.
 
12:55 PM
(Have already reflagged a couple of the most obviously duplicate / harmful ones for redeletion.)
 
@MarkAmery they give different ways to solve the same thing
@user49915 well:
!!/tea user
 
@ShadowWizard brews a cup of darjeeling tea for @user
 
Here you go ^
 
@ShadowWizard Some do, yes. But is there any situation at all in which those different ways are preferable?
 
user508672
@ShadowWizard @SmokeDetector Thanks folks!
 
12:57 PM
I can maybe see the case for keeping one regex-based answer around
 
@MarkAmery I didn't look that deep. But I do know for sure that many times I pick a different answer, not the accepted or highest score, because it's the most simple for me to write. So yes, it's useful, even if not 100% ideal.
 
@ShadowWizard I can't imagine a situation in which the regex-based answers would be simpler than includes or indexOf
 
If answer is not ideal and may result in delay of 0.0001 seconds, a comment can say it, maybe downvote. But NOT deleting it.
 
@ShadowWizard That seems to be at odds with the idea of a wiki-locked question
Apply a wiki-lock means we've already decided that adding more answers is doing harm
And that we instead want a smaller, carefully curated set of answers
 
@MarkAmery so merge all the answers into one big canonical answer, don't just delete all the "smaller" answers.
 
1:00 PM
Okay, but should every possible solution be preserved, no matter how pointless?
Ry-'s objective was to trim down to the smallest set of answers that all had some actual justification for existing
 
Anyway.... feel free to discuss this on MSO, I'll be fine with any action resulting from such a thing, but I'm not fine with a mod deleting answers on what appears as almost random spree.
@user49915 no problem, hope you feel better. :)
 
@ShadowWizard I'll wait and see what extra fat can be uncontroversially trimmed off, first
 
user508672
@ShadowWizard Not at all, but thanks anyway!!!
 
@user49915 oh. Well if there's anything we can do, just ask. Can't promise anything, but asking here is for free and you won't lose any rep. ;)
 
@ShadowWizard Any beef with removing stackoverflow.com/a/1978419/1709587 (which has devolved into a three-way argument masquerading as an answer) or stackoverflow.com/a/1789955/1709587 (bad duplicate of the accepted answer)?
 
user508672
1:04 PM
@ShadowWizard Don't worry about my rep, man, it's alright.
 
Those are the two I've currently got flags on
 
@MarkAmery the first was found useful by 900 people with account and 15+ rep. This alone means it should not be deleted. So it's not ideal. It can cause bugs. So can any line of code in any answer on SO.
No cause for deletion.
 
@ShadowWizard Many of those votes will have been before includes was specced. Now, even if you really really want a method on the native object's prototype, you have the saner option of shimming the ES6 method
 
@Mark the second one is a very simple one liner for those who skip long answers. I'll keep it as well.
 
i.e. there may historically have been a case to be made for doing it the way that that answer recommends WAIT NO DOESN'T RECOMMEND OI NO SRSLY DOES RECOMMEND but it no longer exists
And when it's no longer useful, I'm not sure what to do with such a schizophrenic answer besides delete it
@ShadowWizard We have... very different curation ideals, I think. I'll see how the mods decide to handle the flags already raised, then take to Meta
 
1:11 PM
Many programmers are still coding for pre-ES6 JS, and millions of people still use IE, which doesn't support ES6 and will never support it, so those programmers will always have a job. So deleting answers because they're outdated is also very wrong.
 
Again: they can shim the ES6 method
 
@MarkAmery yup, best course of action. :)
 
That is strictly better than adding a non-specced method to the prototype; it gives them all the advantages without any disadvantages
 
@user49915 I'm not, no worry. :)
Heh, two Mar's now in Tavern.
And one @M.A.R ;)
@user49915 if I may ask, what site you come from? You obviously have 200+ rep somewhere, but you Hide MSE so can't easily find it. :(
 
user508672
@ShadowWizard Sorry, I cannot expand on that it public for exacty that reason. My apologies.
 
user508672
1:25 PM
@JourneymanGeek Which parts exactly do you consider broad in meta.stackexchange.com/questions/326785 ?
 
@user49915 demanding specific users who fit the criteria. Asking if any new user ever...
 
user508672
But the answer proves that these were easy to find out. New means "3 years", and it's there. I don't think I ever wrote "ever" in the OP.
 
It's still too broad...
In spite of SEDE
 
user508672
I removed the first questionmark so that it doesn't sound like a question to you. What's wrong about using SEDE to answer the question?
 
If you're going 'I feel this way - I need all the counter examples in X period of time that matches this criteria to change my mind' it's too broad
It also doesn't really solve a problem the community faces Imo, in the context. It's more 'people downvote my posts so the site must be hostile to new users'
 
user508672
1:33 PM
I intentionally distanced myself from writing 'feel'. Moreover, I never asked for "all", but only for "one". I never claimed the meta SE would be "hostile". If you think I have, feel free to raise a flag regarding a violation of CoC, but it would not be "too broad".
 
Still. That form of question works badly
Pet peeve. Abuse of COC.
If you're violating the COC, I will throw the book at you.
@user49915 well that's the sentiment I pick up
 
Throwing books at people is a CoC violation
 
user508672
@JourneymanGeek Well, you may feel free to mention CoC or not, but I don't see why you think that the question is still "too broad". After all, I've set the background and posed a mathematically very precise question. You cannot accuse me for that.
 
@JohnDvorak but but... I can do so kindly!
 
user508672
@JourneymanGeek You may or may not criticise me for the relation to the so-called "problem the community faces" (I don't think this term is properly defined anyway), but the definition of "too broad" in meta.stackexchange.com/help/closed-questions doesn't mention it.
 
1:42 PM
@user49915 Well if the community or other mods disagree....
You would do yourself good to read that.
 
user508672
@JourneymanGeek You may or may not claim a violation of that, but you need a different reason then. "too broad" doesn't count imho.
 
@user49915 as I said. The community or other mods are free to reopen the post
 
@JohnDvorak depends what books
 
2:10 PM
@ShadowWizard TeX - LaTeX
Also, voting behavior on Meta is weird, because it has been used to indicate disagreement, not useful, no research (even though it's not on feature request)
So, just ignore those votes and you'll feel more peaceful
 
2:36 PM
sloooow :P
 
On my phone ;p
 
3:15 PM
@ShadowWizard Looks like the mods played it out the way I wanted, in the end. Letting you know as a courtesy in case you want to take it to Meta, since I've no longer got reason to do so.
 
throw a yellow page at someone
 
4:10 PM
Wheesh, some vitriol
And kerosene
The smell is intoxicating
 
4:21 PM
@GetAnswerWizard -1 I disagree it's weird
hides from @Bart
Welp, probably not going to get a response to my newest comment.
All the better, I guess
Now everyone can move on to be annoyed by more important things, like coffee at work.
 
4:40 PM
Very annoying, especially when you work in a coffee shop.
Abortion pills spam is something new.
 
It is
 
More precisely, this is the second such report in Metasmoke, the previous one was 3 years ago.
Previously UAE and Oman; now Zimbabwe. Oddly, no US-based spam of this kind.
 
0
Q: Photo upload on iOS app in gardening exchange fails most of the time

Anand RockzzApp fails to upload the files most of the time, I've seen some incidents succeed also, but very rarely. Screenshot for details

Does Apple deny climate change?
@AskQuestionWizard I was about to make an inappropriate joke.
 
5:03 PM
@MarkAmery I'm not really a JS'er, and I really don't want to parse those answers. Were all those deleted ones totally redundant?
 
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard Just in time for dinner ;)
 
5:20 PM
@ShadowWizard and I'm not saying I think you should take those answer deletions to meta, but if you gave those deleted answers a critical eye, would you say that they are redundant? I'm personally hawkish on noisy "me-too" answers - I think new answers to canonicals need to bring something to differentiate themselves. Were all of those answers undifferentiated?
 
@AaronHall They were a mixture of a few things:
1. Completely redundant answers
2. One answer that originally proposed a bad practice and had had two opposing retractions clumsily edited into it until it was ultimately arguing with itself
3. Several answers that proposed genuine alternative solutions but were just plain inferior to the more ordinary and straightforward ones in the accepted answer, and made no attempt to argue otherwise
The ones in #3 are the most likely to be controversial deletions
You can see Ry-'s rationale through the edit message he left when removing most of the approaches from the (wiki) accepted answer:

> focus on being useful over trivia. drastic, i know. if there’s something else to talk about, it’s probably unicode
In other words, he viewed most of the answers as being impractical trivia, and culled them on those grounds. I think that's the right thing to do - but it's radical, as he acknowledges, so I'm not surprised some like Shadow find it alarming
 
If I had to pick something to be upset about for a while, it's the trolls on the Internet slamming the lead researcher / team leader behind the world's most famous pictures of the last few days for writing only 5% of the project's code.
 
@JohnDvorak Where are these trolls?
 
72
Q: Was credit for the black hole image misattributed?

SSimonThe Event Horizon Telescope (EHT) was used to create an image of Messier 87*, a supermassive black hole in the Messier 87 galaxy. This result has been heavily reported in the media leading up to its announcement 2019-04-10. Recent postings on social media have argued over who should receive cre...

 
All I've seen is:

* Media gives her excessive (sometimes sole) credit for a project where she was in fact an equal contributor in a team of 7 or 8 people
* She and her colleagues protest on social media that the PR campaign is bullshit and she is not as responsible as claimed
* Others discuss this
* Progressives accuse those others of "slamming" / "shitting on" etc the researcher
 
5:35 PM
@JohnDvorak I thought the team lead was Dutch? :/
I need to find a news article.
 
Yeah I don't think she was team lead
 
Not sure about "team lead", but she's definitely the most visible
 
Yes, but that's not what she or her teammates wanted
 
Also, she made an awesome presentation about the project and the algorithm behind it
 
@JohnDvorak Maybe I was wrong too, the Dutch one was a professor that thought of doing this sometime back in 2000 ;)
 
5:37 PM
But seriously, where are the trolls "slamming" her? Can you point to a single example? I'm yet to see any.
 
Article doesn't mention team lead, that's what my mind made of it
 
Unless you're suggesting the Big League Politics article counts?
That literally quotes her rejecting the credit as its primary source?
 
@JohnDvorak Is she the most visible because the media/internet made her that?
 
@Tinkeringbell Yeah that's what I'm curious about
 
I was primarily referring to / got the sense from the Skeptics question itself.
 
5:39 PM
@Tinkeringbell I speculate that the answer is that she willingly went along with being the public face of the project
 
I mean, the Dutch professor gave a talk at a press conference in Brussels, but probably didn't gain as much publicity because well... he's male.
 
But didn't expect that to be turned into a bunch of media articles holding her up as a genius and erasing the contributions of all her colleagues
 
@MarkAmery I wouldn't be too sure of that either, I got the impression she herself released a statement mentioning teamwork.
 
That she did
 
Bringing up teamwork was the first thing she did in her presentation
 
5:40 PM
@MarkAmery Oh wait, misparsed that first sentence... That's what's going to be hard to ever find out, I guess.
@JohnDvorak I think this is typically 'internet'. Someone makes it too big, adores someone more than the rest of the internet feels they should be adored... And then of course the other side of the internet is going to try a lot to destroy the pedestal someone is put on.
Titles like the one in that last answer most likely haven't helped here.
Fact is that there's people on the internet that seem absolutely desperate for female role models, and try a lot to make people into something they aren't... and there's people on the internet that have made it their job to show how bad the picked role models are. Short lesson: Never be a role model on the internet ;)
 
That's a sound advice
 
The thing is, I haven't seen anybody tearing her down. Just acknowledging (like the Big League Politics article linked via Skeptics does) that she was just one contributor in a team of others who've been written out of much of the media coverage, as she has pointed out herself repeatedly. But that seems to be enough have caused progressive outrage. :/
 
@MarkAmery I have seen articles?/tweets? ... I dunno what exactly ... that seemed to use that 0.26 percent of the code as a personal attack against Katie, like the claim that she made the whole black hole image herself came from her to begin with. It is nasty...
 
@Tinkeringbell Fair enough. I have seen one Twitter user attributing the claims that she was the sole/lead developer to her, and have corrected them with links to her Facebook posts saying the opposite.
Evening, @ArtOfCode. I've ignored Shog's wisdom from last night and hopped back into the argument about this :P
 
Huh wait what.... Shog said not to discuss this? What did I miss?
 
5:53 PM
Nah he didn't per se
yesterday, by Shog9
The sad thing is, I gotta wonder how many folks are reading this sorta stuff on Facebook or whatever who have no idea what software dev is like and think any of this matters at all
 
Oh... pfew. I guess that means I get to keep my diamond a little longer ;)
 
He merely observed that, ultimately, it's all a load of nonsense that doesn't matter
 
Well, too often he's right ;)
 
The OP had a 'history" on Academia though
 
Though I did see a good Twitter thread on why pictures of black holes may actually matter for scientific progress :D
 
5:55 PM
Oh, sure - I don't think he's saying the work doesn't matter
Just that the media & social media treatment of the team doesn't
In the end, it will pass, and all their careers will be unscathed
It's obnoxious, but that's all
 
@MarkAmery That, I can only hope. Things like this can be very discouraging, and even might cause a certain amount of discord within a team :/
theverge.com/2019/4/13/18308652/… seems like a sane analysis.
 
@Tinkeringbell Yeah, fair enough. And I can imagine being a girl considering studying compsci, looking at this circus, and deciding "screw that".
@Tinkeringbell I will read later. First, dinner.
 
@MarkAmery You might already have read it, it's in the comments on that Skeptics question
Enjoy dinner!
 
@MarkAmery known inferior answers are still instructive and create value, as long as they are properly critiqued in the comments.
 
Great... that Skeptics question is also a black hole for questionable comments...
 
6:08 PM
Hm?
 
6:26 PM
> I just presented my candidature so that Hasan doesn't feel alone moderating..
Also it's always good to have more than one moderator to avoid concentrations of power and to have plurality of opinions to better guide a community.
As it currently stands (with nominations closing tomorrow) this will be a winning nomination on elementary OS. (Pro tem election, 2 candidates for 2 positions => both win)
 
Will tomorrow be +2, or actually +2/-2, that's the question...
 
Ugh, the black hole thing again
Can we just . . . move on?
 
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard But it's a black hole!
 
All I see that would ultimately matter is a progressive/non-progressive fight
 
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard We... kinda basically came to the same conclusion I guess.
 
6:40 PM
due to gravitational forces we have no other way to go ...
 
Keep spinning
 
dizzy
 
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard 'spinning' is what got the internet into a mess in the first place, journalists spinning up stories/titles that weren't reflective of reality ;)
 
My opinion is that, while yet another confirmation of general relativity is neat, the primary contribution to science is the development of the algorithms for VLSI.
 
VLSI?
Very Little Smiling Intelligence?
 
6:45 PM
Very Large Scale Interferometry
 
Ahhh.
Makes just as much sense as the abbreviation..
:P
 
Very-long-baseline interferometry (VLBI) is a type of astronomical interferometry used in radio astronomy. In VLBI a signal from an astronomical radio source, such as a quasar, is collected at multiple radio telescopes on Earth. The distance between the radio telescopes is then calculated using the time difference between the arrivals of the radio signal at different telescopes. This allows observations of an object that are made simultaneously by many radio telescopes to be combined, emulating a telescope with a size equal to the maximum separation between the telescopes. Data received at each...
 
> Interferometry is a family of techniques in which waves, usually electromagnetic waves, are superimposed, causing the phenomenon of interference, which is used to extract information.
Now that makes sense :)
 
it does?
 
@rene You make wave, you make second wave... study waves, get data :P
 
6:49 PM
The bigger the dish, the finer the resolution. We can't make an Earth-sized telescope, but we can spread telescopes across Earth. Each telescope alone can't see anything, so you instead throw crap-tons of algorithms onto 5 petabytes of measurement data to find correlations, then more algorithms to fill in the stuff you can't measure, then do a Fourier transform of the data and voilá... image of the year.
 
I'm not a surfer
@JohnDvorak what happens when we run out of Earth?
 
@rene Space telescopes!
 
You could put giant telescopes into space, do VLBI with those and then get a much finer image of M87BH. But then, someone would have to put the money into building those massive structures and putting them into deep space.
Instead of, you know, smoking marijuana during a livestream :P
 
They're much more useful than space cars, that's for sure...
 
FWIW, Space Oddity, isn't even a good song...
 
7:01 PM
@JohnDvorak pfft. No respect for the classics
 
Classic? Mozart was super-progressive and yet I still doubt he'd talk over his own symphonies...
 
The tall poppy syndrome describes aspects of a culture where people of high status are resented, attacked, cut down, strung up or criticised because they have been classified as superior to their peers. The term has been used in cultures of the English-speaking world. == Etymology == The concept originates from accounts in Herodotus' Histories (Book 5, 92f), Aristotle's Politics (1284a), and Livy's Ab Urbe Condita Libri, Book I. [Periander] had sent a herald to Thrasybulus and inquired in what way he would best and most safely govern his city. Thrasybulus led the man who had come from Periander...
 
We should land another probe on an asteroid
 
@Shog9 Meh... Perhaps. Though the media kinda created a high status when there actually wasn't as much, and not with the intent of cutting her down, as far as I can see
@Magisch Sounds fun :)
I kinda want commercial flights to the moon as well :D
 
the black hole photo is pretty nifty though
They used a lot of cool techniques to image that
 
7:12 PM
indeed
It did spawn more memes than I'd like hough
Commercial flights to Moon will find it rather difficult to obtain enough demand to be viable.
 
@Tinkeringbell I wanna call my future wife VLSI
 
whatever. In a hundred years, noboy will remember the memes but they will remember the fact that we took a photo of a black hole
 
@Magisch And laugh at us for doing it ;)
 
Maybe if they put a full on colony on the moon
make it some sort of high end vacation destination
 
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard I'm not really up to date on my foreign languages, but it seems like a strange name for a wife ;)
 
7:14 PM
Imagine a concessions store up there selling "I was on the moon and all I got was this lousy tshirt" tshirts
 
A moon colony would make commercial flights there viable, yes :P
 
7:26 PM
-6
Q: Why couldn't Julian Assange have escaped this way?

Tim Richards(1) you find out what he is actually going to be wearing on a given day (2) on that day, 29 very convincing lookeylikeys enter the Embassy (3) five minutes later, 29 lookeylikeys and the real Assange scarper from the building What are the police going to do, shoot them all?

Erm, because life isn't an Indie movie?
 
7:53 PM
new idea for when we set up a moon colony: Weave clothes up there, call it mooncloth or moonweave
 
8:15 PM
@Magisch I'm pretty sure memes are going into the history books.
 
Ayep
Black hole images might or might not
BTW, what was the new thing that was discovered or understood with the image?
AFAIK it's only consistent with general relativity and that's supposed to give you a warm and fuzzy feeling
 
Proof of black holes, I think? We had never actually seen one before, just supposed based on mathematics and models
 
1000 years later, students have to learn world history from -6000 BC to AD 3000?
 
Things like "indeed there is no surface" and "indeed there is maybe probably perhaps potentially an event horizon"
 
Things like "oh, cool, we were actually doing something right the past few hundred years and don't have to throw it all out"
 
8:19 PM
Hmm, the curriculum will need to adjust from knowledge inflation...
(I don't know what I'm talking about, time to sleep! 💤)
 
@GetAnswerWizard Just transmit data to the brain chip directly.
 
@Mithrandir just one hundred, no?
@Mithrandir Damn I keep dreaming about that every now and then
If I find a genie, that's definitely my first wish
 
Just... you'd have to be careful with the implementation of the idea.
For instance, other people can't transmit stuff directly; you need to authorize all data entries into your brain.
And that novels don't suffer that fate.
You'd have to make sure that forgetting bad stuff still works, while increasing the storage for other stuff - not forgetting pain and bad stuff will lead to psychological problems.
And account for the possibility of overriding old information with new from a more traditional data source.
...I'm probably waaay overthinking this brain data chip thing, though.
Still your first wish, @M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard? :P
 

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