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Sonic Wizard

1:01 AM

edit-reject-pls meta.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/57380

Gaurang Tandon

1:59 AM

Hello! This meta post mentions "A question with an accepted answer isn't as likely to receive further attention as one without an accepted answer.". I know that sounds just right, however, has there been actual statistical research into this? Do we actually know for sure that - on average - views on questions with quick accepted answers are less than - say half - of those with not quick accepted answers? Thanks!

SmokeDetector

2:19 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: Blackberry Priv won't connect to Windows 7 for file transfer by Abigail Tsangaris on android.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: Windows Server 2008: Sometimes Windows shows the simple file sharing dialog while other times it shows the advanced dialog by Liu Chan on superuser.com

Sonic Wizard

2:33 AM

sd 2k

@GaurangTandon Someone with SEDE skills may be able to answer that for you?

(bad attempt to summon someone with SEDE skills)

user315433

Apparently I pocket-bought an audiobook... weird. Got notified of the purchase out of the blue... granted, it's the author narration for the book I had opened in Kindle app, but I haven't used the app all day.

user315433

Luckily, the book was Tenth of December so no real regrets. Changed Amazon password just in case.

HTTPS

3:09 AM

@ShadowWizard a meta post, posted on the main site, migrated to meta, but then closed, thus got returned back to the main site. (the timestamp just to hide the obvious reference to the post, even though it's still findable manually)

@JourneymanGeek fair point

Sonic Wizard

cv-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/309083/…

(Voluntarily deleted)

@ShadowWizard chaos-emerald-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/309084/…

(I edited that FAQ with a section on own posts, accidentally created a second account, etc.)

Journeyman Geek

3:44 AM

And heh. Very interesting voting spread on that. And I do think I need to clean up the question a little more.

Sonic Wizard

@JourneymanGeek Shog once said that for Community deletions, it's important that users know and understand the specific criteria that caused their question to be Roomba'd.

Also, if a mod deleted one of my posts, I'd want to know from them why they deleted my post, as opposed to unsubstantiated speculation from other users. Remember my prior example of animuson deleting my positively-voted user215114 post?

HTTPS

4:00 AM

@JourneymanGeek One more thing that I'm concerned is: what if the OP brings it to meta asking about the detailed reason for the deletion? Sometimes other users can chime in to guess, but only the voters themselves know the reason. In the end, they have to declare they're the voters..?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body: Building a toaster by Mgb2504 on electronics.SE

Suraj Jain

@HTTPS Nice Name

HTTPS

@SurajJain heh, thanks to @SFTP :)

Suraj Jain

@HTTPS I am thinking to take one for me too, how about WebRTC??

:P

user202362

No one is here to witness me training my autonomous (toy) car :'( 😥😓😰😢😭 ... But luckily I have 3 chicks, I can have a (forced) supportive crew of three! 🐓💖☺️😆😂😄🤣

HTTPS

4:05 AM

@TelKitty YouTube Live!

@SurajJain feel free ;)

user202362

that's after you have successfully trained your car ... and chicks :p

HTTPS

@GaurangTandon sorry, no statistic, but I think "further attention" more-or-less means "users who only want to answer (to get rep)".... and some users do only care about non-accepted questions on their questions list.

Sonic Wizard

:6861873 tpu-

Journeyman Geek

@HTTPS I'm not actually worried about that since at that point they're clearly going through the proper channels and obvious trolls are obvious

and I've on occasion answered for other mods

user310756

4:40 AM

@JonEricson very nice answer

user310756

@TelKitty I think I'm dying of exhaustion! :D and I can't go online tonight I used up all the data I bought

Journeyman Geek

@YvetteColomb :(

It'll be worth it in the end?

user310756

yes indeedn

user310756

she's getting close. She's bothered by having her belly touched at all. I thought she may be going to have the baby today/tonight

user202362

@YvetteColomb but your foals are unharmed so far :)

user310756

4:47 AM

@TelKitty stop being reasonable woman hahahahaha

Sonic Wizard

5:08 AM

github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/issues/2011

(^^Relevant specifically to Tavern on the Meta)

user315433

Meh. Wrong fp feedback is no big deal.

user315433

And it makes more sense to optimize for correct actions, not for mistaken ones.

Sonic Wizard

@SFTP In that specific instance, I got a stern ping for it, because it was conflicting feedback and false-positive feedback on an autoflagged post.

user202362

HTTPS

@TelKitty woah, can't wait for the result!

Sonic Wizard

5:20 AM

@TelKitty Robotics is something I'm interested in. A while ago I captained a team that made it to 2nd place in a local autonomous robot competition

One insidious way I used to get attention for bug reports in the age of anonymously editing: put "this is a known bug" into the FAQ

HTTPS

You can downvote without commenting (this is a known bug)

Journeyman Geek

or a known feature.

Sonic Wizard

@HTTPS I'd describe the bug in the FAQ, then link to the bug report with "this is a known bug" in the title. My hope was that others reading the FAQ (or reviewing my edits) would come across the bug report and get attention for it.

Journeyman Geek

That's.... not the point of a FAQ

the point of a FAQ is to find common things people need.

Not point people at bug reports

:(

Sonic Wizard

5:37 AM

@JourneymanGeek That's why I said...insidious

Journeyman Geek

Also kinda abusive of the system

SmokeDetector

6:13 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: which has been bruise Fasten by animalistic by Appi the on drupal.SE

Shadow Wizard

6:24 AM

@HTTPS so why sad? Looks like typical off topic rant being closed, doesn't really matter where it was originally posted... those who migrated should have voted to close as off topic instead.

Since you don't want to share what question is was, can't really judge how bad it really is/was.

@TelKitty bug spelling typo in folder name: should be "useful stuff for server admin".

@SurajJain be quick, their names will change soon enough. ;)

@SonicWizard no emerald was needed after all

Sonic Wizard

@ShadowWizard Not true, you used Chaos Control on it

Shadow Wizard

@SonicWizard while sleeping? Doubt it... my powers are turned off when I sleep.

Sonic Wizard

@ShadowWizard You edited the duplicate links; that requires a Chaos Emerald.

Shadow Wizard

@SonicWizard oh, you mean that, lol... yup.

I wouldn't have used the hammer to close as dupe of the merge faq, but it does fit as secondary dupe.

rene

6:45 AM

@SFTP ... or amazon needs the money ...

user202362

7:00 AM

@ShadowWizard that's why I don't like to share screenshots in public or self made apps with friends - someone somewhere ... will find a misspell somewhere :'(

Shadow Wizard

@SFTP reddit.com/r/pokemongo/comments/4wcjxj/…

Must admit, first time hearing "pocket bought"... so far heard about undesired calls made this way, leading to funny moments... ;)

rene

@TelKitty that they find it is not the problem ... the urge to tell you about it is ...

Shadow Wizard

My device requires swiping the screen to open it, so far didn't happen while inside my pocket.

Journeyman Geek

I set mine to use a pin or face/finger rec cause I kept butt dialing ;p

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek pin is headache, I never used it

Journeyman Geek

7:04 AM

@ShadowWizard but its needed for the latter

Shadow Wizard

And still never owned a device with finger print scanner, I'm bit behind. lol

Journeyman Geek

and finger scanning is nice if its a front scanner

OP's face rec is fast

hm

I tend to buy 'nicer' phones lately so the last two have had em

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek since I consider phone as device for making calls, mainly, and maybe have some fun as the secondary target, I don't spend much money on that, and buy the cheap models.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard heh, I use mine as an internet box mainly

Shadow Wizard

I find it much easier doing from computer.

@TelKitty so don't share.... or remove everything but the relevant part of the screenshot.... ;)

Did you fix the typo? :D

Journeyman Geek

7:07 AM

(also the OP 3 was decent value for what I got, and I loved it enough I replaced it when a op5T when it broke... twice...

Shadow Wizard

I saw more than once screenshots posted on programming forums which contained desktop folders like "porn" or "xxx", lol

Journeyman Geek

lol

Just name it something innocent

like "stuff"

Shadow Wizard

Don't think on SE though... people there are just too careful. ;)

SmokeDetector

7:39 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer: Mirror reaction - avoiding silver nitride by Professor Dr Susai Rajendran on chemistry.SE

πάντα ῥεῖ

sd k

rene

@SmokeDetector fpu-

@πάνταῥεῖ not spam IMO. but I edited it into shape. Now we wait for approval of my edit

πάντα ῥεῖ

@rene THX, I should go through the commands list again.

Shadow Wizard

7:58 AM

umm.... looks like 100% spam to me. Flagged. Don't want to mess with Smokey though, so no k from me.

Phone, email.. what else you want to make it spam?? @rene

It's even worse than baba who only gives phone.

user202362

@rene it's good that they tell me about it - maybe you can't avoid making mistakes, but you can minimise loses

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard I think the user is slightly clueless and tried to add a signature at the end

SmokeDetector

8:19 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer, blacklisted user: How to find and delete duplicate files within the same directory? by Elijah Brock on unix.SE

πάντα ῥεῖ

sd why

SmokeDetector

@πάνταῥεῖ [:6861996] Body - Position 27-50: Duplicate Files Deleter

user315433

8:38 AM

Joel is right of course, we live in the Stack Overflow Age... But closer to its end than its beginning, methinks.

Journeyman Geek

@SFTP It would take a major scandal or a workable alternative.

and I don't really consider the twitter storm the former.

Martin

8:49 AM

Hi @JourneymanGeek. I thought that deleted-questions (or deletion) and perhaps revision-history might be suitable for your question: Could we hide who deleted a post from normal users?

I thought that maybe instead of editing the tags into your question and seeing how they are subsequently edited further, I might as well ask here. (Since you've been active in chat recently.)

Journeyman Geek

heh. Thanks for the consideration. And yes, those look appropriate - other than revision history

Martin

BTW is there a separate tag for that big banner which appears under closed/deleted posts, explains reason for closure and lists the close voters?

Journeyman Geek

I have no idea. I kinda suck at tags and just throw the bare minimum I neeed

Martin

I've mentioned revision history because it is one of the places where delete voters are displayed (and so is timeline). But probably those tags not needed here.

Journeyman Geek

ah

I was specifically thinking of the one under a deleted posts

I've had 3-4 people turn up on my blog asking about stuff I did on SU, and quite a few were abusive :(

Alsom deleted-answers would be appropriate here

Martin

8:52 AM

So the proposal is only to remove the delete voters from the banner, not from revision history and timeline?

Journeyman Geek

Most of these were answers

tbh, I didn't even think about those

Martin

I see.

Probably it might be good to clarify that in the question.

Journeyman Geek

hmm

anyone can see the revision history on their own posts, right?

and timeline?

Martin

When I read that proposal is to "hide who deleted the post", I naturally thought of the usual places where I see such things. (Especially if the post was undeleted in the meantime, I can only see deleted voters in history/timeline.)

Journeyman Geek

for some reason I'm thinking timeline as something mod only

Martin

8:55 AM

I think everybody can see history/timeline of any posts which is not deleted. And probably of their own deleted posts.

Well, it's true that moderators see more things in the timeline than regular users do. (And maybe in revision history too...?)

Journeyman Geek

lemme check

a bit more, and the UI is more obvious

ah looks like it

but looks like little/no difference between mod and 10k views

Martin

A moderator mentioned to me this in chat: "I can see flags and reviews, but not deleted comments (on the timeline)." Certainly regular users do not see flags.

Journeyman Geek

true, but I'm not really too worried a mod will start trolling me ;p

Martin

From another moderator: "Yes, individual close votes only appear in the moderator timeline, not in the public one."

Journeyman Geek

or a experienced user

Martin

8:59 AM

Yes, that was just reaction to little/no difference between mod an 10k views.

Journeyman Geek

I can see who closevoted in the 10k views

(or on the site proper)

and so far, maybe I'm short sighted, but I'd rather have closevoters visible - its an essential part of how the site runs

Martin

I see who deleted/undeleted on the timeline even when I am not logged in. So I guess this is accessible to any user who can see the question.

The same is true for revision history. And also for close/reopen voters.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Impact of Natural Selection on Population Size by TransAndProud on biology.SE

rene

@JourneymanGeek noted...

Journeyman Geek

Wait... Even when you're not logged in? Oo

Martin

9:04 AM

Of course, on a question which is not deleted.

Journeyman Geek

Ah. I do mean one that is currently deleted

Martin

I think that the revision history/timeline looks the same for all non-diamond users. (Assuming they can see the question - so 10k comes into play only if the question is deleted.)

πάντα ῥεῖ

@SmokeDetector k

Journeyman Geek

Or you have a question or answer.

πάντα ῥεῖ

@JourneymanGeek That was my point, that OPs should be excluded to see who closed / deleted it.

Journeyman Geek

9:10 AM

I kinda agree that is one option.

πάντα ῥεῖ

9:21 AM

Is this a bug?

0

Q: Can I ask for general ideas for a world of adult content in WorldBuilding.com from StackExchange?

TO MAKE THINGS CLEAR: I do not want to create controversy or use inappropriate language for the site. But I firmly believe that you can talk about adult issues with respect and seriousness, without falling into lust or joke. My question would only be to receive general ideas for a university c...

discussion

The question was migrated yesterday to worlbuilding meta. Now it appears as on hold at MSE, but if you click it you see the worldbuilding meta 404 page.

Shadow Wizard

@πάνταῥεῖ bug??? " receive general ideas for a university curriculum in a school"... just some off topic crap, nothing uncommon to MSE. No idea why it's not downvoted.

Downvoted, when it reach -3 will vote to delete.

@πάνταῥεῖ of course, they closed/deleted that crap from there.

πάντα ῥεῖ

@ShadowWizard Sure, but why does it still appear at the MSE main page?

Shadow Wizard

@πάνταῥεῖ no sure what you mean?

Mithrandir24601

I think the OP deleted that question from WB meta, so it probably counted as a rejected migration

Shadow Wizard

Closed questions always appear there.

@Mithrandir24601 well the 404 page show this, let me see...

πάντα ῥεῖ

9:26 AM

@ShadowWizard But I see a 404

Shadow Wizard

> This question was voluntarily removed by its author

@Mithrandir24601 is correct ^

wait... @Mithrandir are you using a sock?? Why?

Journeyman Geek

No. There's two

@Mithrandir24601 is an AI .... Mod

Mithrandir24601

@ShadowWizard Hahaha! Nope :D

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek huh, so weird. It's not like Mithrandir is super common nick... lol

@πάνταῥεῖ only on the site where it got deleted (WB.meta)

Journeyman Geek

Lol. Tell me about it.

Shadow Wizard

9:30 AM

Anyway.... think SE staff shouldn't bother migrating those away.

πάντα ῥεῖ

Well, the whole thing looks a bit weird for me. It shouldn't appear anymore at the MSE main page.

Shadow Wizard

Maybe SO-only meta stuff to MSO, but not other sites.

πάντα ῥεῖ

@ShadowWizard As mentioned it was migrated to WB.meta yesterday.

Shadow Wizard

@πάνταῥεῖ why not? I really fail to see your logic. It was migrated to other site. Deleted on that other site, which caused the migration to fail, hence making it become closed but unlocked and not deleted on the original site where it was asked. Kind of back to square 1.

This is a good feature, so wrong migrations won't cause the question to vanish.

I think the migration "stub" (the question on the original site) is auto deleted after 30 days, so if the target question is deleted after 30 days, you're correct and it will be 404 on both sites. @πάνταῥεῖ

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Email in answer: how to get the whole balance of a privatekey or publickey BTC by Radouane on bitcoin.SE

Shadow Wizard

9:35 AM

plz-delete Africa needz one more meta.stackexchange.com/questions/309090/… @rene @Bart @JourneymanGeek @Glorfindel

πάντα ῥεῖ

sd k

rene

waffles

Shadow Wizard

om nom nom

Mithrandir

@ShadowWizard Yes, I am, but it's not @Mithrandir24601

πάντα ῥεῖ

delete-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/309078/…

HTTPS

10:10 AM

argh, my head...

suddenly fell asleep and didn't remember anything before that..

πάντα ῥεῖ

sd !!brew coffee for @HTTPS

HTTPS

!!/coffee myself

SmokeDetector

@HTTPS brews a cup of Affogato for @myself

Journeyman Geek

Affowhat?

Shadow Wizard

@Mithrandir well, still weird.... lol

Journeyman Geek

10:41 AM

@ShadowWizard ah. Odd

Bart

@YvetteColomb dang :D But good to see you're still alive

rene

11:07 AM

Are the comment/questions raised here rhetorical?

Journeyman Geek

Yup

Bart

Even if they aren't, not worth engaging.

Journeyman Geek

I consider analytics of voting trends a sure path to madness.

rene

OK

Journeyman Geek

more seriously? Folks might choose to dv a question because its free and not the answer...

which... kinda is unfair I suppose but that's how the cookie explodes.

HTTPS

11:32 AM

It's all back to wording...

rene

> Please feed me back

HTTPS

The question asked how to avoid chat (which is impossible), and the answer is to make a feature-request that allow OP to delete their messages once moved to the chat (which is a fair request, and I support it)

Gaurang Tandon

@SonicWizard sorry, that wasn't my motive, and I am not sure how you inferred that. In fact, before asking here, I didn't know if this is even possible. Google didn't help, so I just thought of asking in here, if there has been discussion of this fact in the past.

@HTTPS hmm right. But that statement (in that meta post) does seem to very broad (at least to me) to be applicable to even a majority of the 173 SE sites there are

rene

@HTTPS well, my answer was partly motivated by the misconceptions in the first couple of comments on the question. I thought starting with a bold statement to get peoples attention would work. In that sense my answer worked well I guess.

user202362

12:59 PM

finally someone contacted me through the contact form ... to send me some spam

user202362

people actually write bots to crawl others contact forms to send them spams?

πάντα ῥεῖ

1:14 PM

sd why

SmokeDetector

@πάνταῥεῖ [:6862219] Body - Position 68-81: Alibaba Cloud

HTTPS

@SmokeDetector f

πάντα ῥεῖ

sd fp

SmokeDetector

@πάνταῥεῖ [:6862221] You are not a privileged user. Please see the privileges wiki page for information on what privileges are and what is expected of privileged users.

HTTPS

huh

πάντα ῥεῖ

1:15 PM

^Just my thought ATM

HTTPS

I guess race condition, try !!/amiprivileged?

user202362

!!/amiprivileged

SmokeDetector

@TelKitty ✓ You are a privileged user.

πάντα ῥεῖ

!!/amiprivileged

SmokeDetector

@πάνταῥεῖ ╳ You are not a privileged user. Please see the privileges wiki page for information on what privileges are and what is expected of privileged users.

user202362

1:20 PM

！！/amiprivileged

user202362

heh, does not recognize fat exclamation mark

rene

!!/location

SmokeDetector

@rene ArtOfCode/EC2

πάντα ῥεῖ

Looks like someone retracted my recently gained SD privileges?

rene

@SmokeDetector strange: github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/blob/master/rooms.yml#L434

user202362

1:22 PM

@πάνταῥεῖ there is a bot automatically detecting trolls and remove their privileges

user202362

the inferior ones anyways

πάντα ῥεῖ

@TelKitty You well know that I'm not a troll :-/

user202362

yeah yeah, they all say that

πάντα ῥεῖ

LOL

rene

@πάνταῥεῖ please retry

πάντα ῥεῖ

1:24 PM

!!/amiprivileged

SmokeDetector

@πάνταῥεῖ ✓ You are a privileged user.

Shadow Wizard

@TelKitty discrimination! Smokey is toxic!

πάντα ῥεῖ

@rene Whatever you did THX a lot

Shadow Wizard

!!/amiprivileged or not?

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizard ✓ You are a privileged user.

rene

1:25 PM

Smokey was running on an instance with an old revision

@Glorfindel fixed it

πάντα ῥεῖ

@rene That explains a lot, my privilege is quite new

user202362

1:36 PM

@ShadowWizard I know right?

Shadow Wizard

Right!

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: How many polar bears do you see? by Robert Sösemann on puzzling.SE

πάντα ῥεῖ

sd k

SmokeDetector

@πάνταῥεῖ [:6862138] That message is not a report.

Shadow Wizard

@πάνταῥεῖ no need to confirm manual reports, only the automatic reports.

πάντα ῥεῖ

1:40 PM

I see

Shadow Wizard

I hear

HTTPS

I speak

Shadow Wizard

I smell

7

Journeyman Geek

Yes you do.

Shadow Wizard

lol

HTTPS

1:59 PM

Hmm... I think I will stop using [site.se] when welcoming a user, since it links back to homepage (and might be annoying if put in front of the comment)...

Journeyman Geek

I usually write the site name for unique sites

like MSE or SU

I think I just wrote "Stack Exchange" in that comment I threw into chemistry

Journeyman Geek

2:21 PM

cv-plz meta.stackexchange.com/q/309093/135565 i-hope-its-homework

πάντα ῥεῖ

If that's DIY work I'd suspect liifes in danger. Sharing your hopes @Journey

Journeyman Geek

yup!

In a professional environment you'd want to work out where the forces are, math it out, then get someone else to double check it.

and even then, sometimes bad things happen

πάντα ῥεῖ

@JourneymanGeek "math it out" Add at least 30% safety adds

Journeyman Geek

hah, yes

and maybe might need a PE or specialist certified engineer to confirm

πάντα ῥεῖ

Same what any professional does ;-)

Journeyman Geek

2:28 PM

If it was "how do I calculate it" and mentioned the grade of steel and better yet its properties...

I'd still close it ;p

πάντα ῥεῖ

Of course

I'm not even sure if this is spam, or a hopelessly lost user.

Journeyman Geek

I'd lean towards the latter

Sonic Wizard

cv-pls one-more-close-vote-needed meta.stackexchange.com/questions/309094/…

delv-pls 20k+ meta.stackexchange.com/questions/309093/…

delv-pls 20k+, was migrated to another site, where the author voluntarily deleted it: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/309076/…

Journeyman Geek

eh, could just let that be roombaed

I'm sure if Adam wanted it gone gone...

Sonic Wizard

@JourneymanGeek He migrated it, but the migration was rejected because it was deleted (by the author) on the destination site.

delv-pls 20k+ meta.stackexchange.com/questions/309094/…

πάντα ῥεῖ

2:42 PM

@SonicWizard We already discussed that today.

Sonic Wizard

@πάνταῥεῖ Ah, sorry, didn't notice.

Not everyone goes back and reads old transcripts

πάντα ῥεῖ

Slowly sundae?

HTTPS

（・ω・）つ🍫

Sonic Wizard

@JourneymanGeek The Charcoal project wants feedback from Taverners as to whether or not the feature to self-delete SmokeDetector messages upon replying to them as "fp" should be kept or removed. Would you mind pinning another message containing a link to a Google Form explaining the choices? Here's the GitHub issue: github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/issues/2011

Journeyman Geek

@SonicWizard if you can write that as a nicely formatted pinnable post sure

preferably in the next 5 minutes cause I'm going to bed

πάντα ῥεῖ

2:47 PM

@Journey I'll pin your personal up-times for me now ;-)

HTTPS

One reason why FP is usually removed ASAP because... compared to TP, users more often respond with FP to non-spammy/rude posts, adding more (unnecessary) feedback. Well, I don't think there's a problem "pile-on" responses. But that's just me

The delay to 2 1.9 minutes before self-delete is a fair request though (give buffer in case of slow network)

Sonic Wizard

The Charcoal project wants feedback about SmokeDetector's behavior in the Tavern here: goo.gl/forms/WZaKBdfeRcvns0863

@JourneymanGeek ^^Please pin

Journeyman Geek

eh, could turn the whole thing into a link ;p

would be neater

Sonic Wizard

@JourneymanGeek People aren't going to click on links with no context.

@JourneymanGeek Thanks for the pin!

HTTPS

The Charcoal project wants feedback about SmokeDetector's behavior in the Tavern on self-deletion after FP feedback

3

Journeyman Geek

2:53 PM

That would be better without the "He probably meant" but yes ;p

HTTPS

fix'd ;p

Sonic Wizard

@JourneymanGeek Unpin mine and pin that one, please (done)

Journeyman Geek

@SonicWizard pinned @HTTPS' version cause I like it more

HTTPS

ninja'd conversation is ninja'd

Sonic Wizard

@JourneymanGeek Also unpinning doesn't unstar, so if you could please unstar mine so it's not redundant

Journeyman Geek

2:55 PM

Also done

Dealing with some of the comments from my meta post before bed.

Sonic Wizard

@HTTPS That's the "alternative option" in that survey

@Catija Haven't seen you here in a while

πάντα ῥεῖ

3:54 PM

@JonEricson One idea to make SE more business compliant could be to have public discussion sections, similar to chat rooms.

These won't have any more relevance and professional quality than reddit and quora have already though.

Jon Ericson

@πάνταῥεῖ I'm not sure what that would mean. Are you thinking chat rooms attached to questions or something along those lines?

πάντα ῥεῖ

But there would be sweet and cuddly cat gifs posted all along:

@JonEricson I'm thinking about separate public sections

Princess Luna

@πάνταῥεῖ awww

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@JonEricson That's what gave me that idea today:

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Q: What exactly is functional programming? What makes a paradigm functional?

I was reading an interview with Jose Valim, the creator Elixir programming language.. .and at one point where Jose attempts to define functional programming, I'm stuck as I feel Jose is talking about something exactly opposite to functional paradigm (especially the bold text in the below answer):...

functional-programming haskell theory erlang elixir

HTTPS

functional programming is... when the program functions well -_-

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4:09 PM

@HTTPS Not quite

HTTPS

procedural programming is... when you need procedures to program -_-

(I guess it's time for me to sleep...)

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I have to admit that I am one of @Joel's Alien Sex Fiends and ever supported @Jeff's point of view. That @joel fails to make a business from it isn't our fault but theirs.

Failing that way with an army of volunteers at your back looks a bit, eeerm awkward.

Not to mention that @Joel already abused the site to publish their very personal statement about politics already. Not that I'm a friend of DJT, but if we have policies, these should apply for everyone, and the CEO isn't an exceptional case.

Or COO, or whatever CXX

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4:36 PM

@Princess Notice how the cat starts raising its paw ;-)

Princess Luna

Meaning?

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@PrincessLuna Ambiguous beyond cuddlyness ...

Sonic Wizard

@rene chaos-emerald-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/215572/…

Princess Luna

@πάνταῥεῖ ?

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@PrincessLuna Seems you aren't ready for sarcasm yet.

Princess Luna

4:48 PM

Nope

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@PrincessLuna Should I post that very gif as a reply now, supposing you're the kitty?

Sonic Wizard

@rene Did you respond to my Google form? Also, what did you think of my alternate option? (Noticed your GitHub comment.)

Princess Luna

@πάνταῥεῖ /shrug

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We're allowed to do micro-management, that doesn't fit the real business needs of SE.

Raise your paws everyone!

Princess Luna

@πάνταῥεῖ which ones? :P

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5:00 PM

@PrincessLuna Keeping their servers running and pay their employees.

Princess Luna

Huh?

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In the long term

rene

@SonicWizard No, I hadn't noticed I was lured into a Google form so I skipped that step and went directly to the issue.

Princess Luna

Oh, sorry. Replied to the wrong message

@πάνταῥεῖ which ones? :p

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@PrincessLuna Both paws of course, and try to keep not falling onto your face if you do so :-D

Princess Luna

5:04 PM

That's the anthro-advantage: no face-first falling :D

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@PrincessLuna Evolution confirmed that :-P

Princess Luna

Lol

Princess Luna

5:30 PM

sd why

sd poof

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sd k

Princess Luna

> sd 3- k

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Aww ... That's a porn link merely

Princess Luna

Yep

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@SmokeDetector k

Princess Luna

5:38 PM

@πάνταῥεῖ orig00.deviantart.net/4524/f/2015/191/e/5/… . :D

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@PrincessLuna Throw it to @joelspolsky ;-)

Princess Luna

lol

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We're not their servants or slaves he's able to steer at their will!

Princess Luna

@HTTPS already reported

HTTPS

oh yeah, didn't realize :x (I should have been sleeping already...)

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5:49 PM

@HTTPS Another coffee?

Princess Luna

/shrug

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sd k

Sonic Wizard

@rene What did you think of the alternative option?

Sonic Wizard

6:02 PM

(Just edited/bumped @Shadow's FR on disallowing <2k rep users from directly editing FAQs. Seconds later, a 101-rep new user with the association bonus edited an FAQ.)

rene

@SonicWizard that's good humor ...

@SonicWizard I didn't like it

Sonic Wizard

@rene Why not?

rene

@SonicWizard because I favor speedy clean-up when warranted to prevent mishaps without the need of an RO.

Shadow Wizard

6:37 PM

@SonicWizard thanks, mostly good, but community-wiki is not relevant since I talk about faq questions only. I don't want something general for all CW questions.

user315433

6:50 PM

The conference is over (as far as I'm concerned) but I have a day and a bit left in Portland, so.... A Portland Walking Tour of "My Own Private Idaho"

user315433

Skipping the Route 216 part, probably.

Sonic Wizard

9:59 PM

@SmokeDetector tpu-

Sonic Wizard

10:23 PM

@Shadow @rene chaos-emerald-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/67447/…

Shadow Wizard

10:53 PM

@SFTP what conference?

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