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Rob
Rob
01:15
Pendant Alert: They used a very slightly different color on their own website, than the exact color provided to Stack Exchange - With the money for a top of the line design Dept. you'd think that Google would document their colors and instruct others consistently - so Cat's version checks out:
02:04
@Rob For the Cloud logo, #4285F4 is the correct brand color for Google Blue (see, e.g., this blog post). It looks like it's an SVG rendering issue (reproduces for me as well but with a different wrong color, no idea why) - the SVG source specifies fill="#4285F4".
I couldn't find any authoritative source on the Go logo color, and indeed, those are inconsistent - golang.org uses #00acd7 and the Collective uses #00ADD8.
Rob
Rob
I'm all for it being a different reason too, browser, SVG Library, etc. --- Just though it was fun to check, and funny to find it was off.
Yeah, it's a good observation...I'm super curious why it's not rendering with the color specified in the SVG itself in at least some cases.
Rob
Rob
For the Go Logo I used their website, similarly for the Google Cloud icon I used their FavIcon.
It's unexplained that if the same SVG was used in each case, the same browser, and same color picker, why there would be a minute difference; and two people agree it's different,but not on the values. FWIW: FF Android and Pixolor, Samsung S9+.
Firefox Nightly on Win10, taking screenshots and looking at the color in MSPaint
Rob
Rob
Also, for the Google Cloud logo, all colors are a bit off (not just the blue).
I could barely see it, and I thought "I bet the colors are different"; turned out ...
02:18
Yeah, actually the colors on that blog post don't match the internal reference I have either...the SVG file source matches the internal reference almost, except that the yellow is off by 1.
Also perhaps unsurprisingly, the fact that "go" is a common English word makes searching for the information on the official color/logo for that rather difficult...
Rob
Rob
Use "Go Language" then Google AI knows what you are looking for. 👍
Aha, found it... had to search using "gopher", amusingly enough...
Which specifies #00ADD8, making the Collective's SVG source correct and golang.org, curiously, incorrect.
Rob
Rob
02:35
Score one, for The Collective logo:
 
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user728672
04:04
@Rob What a coincidence. Just tonight. TNG episode with Data joining Lore as leaders of a Borg splinter group.
04:16
Tavern looks like Graphic Design chat tonight :)
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06:26
I want to thank all the people who post on MSE instead of SO/Maths/Physics/Chemistry and the rest of the SE network.
Lol
I think I might get one if I quit as a mod 🤣
@Sha you saw the K"Sh news?
06:50
@Mithical this sounds awfully NSFW, but I guess its just hebrew ;)
07:02
...yeah. Short for Kiryat Sh'mona.
07:21
Journey, journey, you know better then not to link to the accounts tab. Now poor @jnat has to do the extra clicks ;)
@Mithical didn't see any news for.... long time, so no. But what's K"Sh?
I read the newspaper (both printed and online) and listen to news on radio, that's enough for me. :)
@Mithical oh lol. What happened there?
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 town got hit by a rocket attack
@Luuklag how? Kish/Kask/Kesh/Kosh/Kush none of those is NSFW...
@JourneymanGeek ohh, yup.
sigh
Read about it, but didn't watch news.
@Aibobot ?
07:36
try googling that last word in line there @ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2
it's very 420
@Luuklag what line?
I'm lost...
Last word? Kush?
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 that line of words
The Kingdom of Kush (; Egyptian: 𓎡𓄿𓈙𓈉 kꜣš, Assyrian: Ku-u-si, in LXX Ancient Greek: Κυς and Κυσι; Coptic: ⲉϭⲱϣ; Hebrew: כּוּשׁ‎) was an ancient kingdom in Nubia, centered along the Nile Valley in what is now northern Sudan and southern Egypt. The region of Nubia was an early cradle of civilization, producing several complex societies that engaged in trade and industry. The city-state of Kerma emerged as the dominant political force between 2450 and 1450 BC, controlling the Nile Valley between the first and fourth cataracts, an area as large as Egypt. The Egyptians were the first to ide...
my google gives different results xD
@Luuklag it's based on your own searches and visits, you know...... :P
07:37
Kush generally refers to a pure or hybrid Cannabis indica strain. Pure C. indica strains include Afghan Kush, Hindu Kush, Green Kush, and Purple Kush. Hybrid strains of C. indica include Blueberry Kush and Golden Jamaican Kush.The origins of Kush Cannabis are from landrace plants mainly in Afghanistan, Northern Pakistan and North-Western India with the name coming from the Hindu Kush mountain range. "Hindu Kush" strains of Cannabis were taken to the United States in the mid-to-late 1970s and continue to be available there to the present day. == See also == Medical cannabis == References ==
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 probably localized to NL ;)
@Luuklag hehe
@Luuklag still, hardly NSFW?
Maybe just not children friendly... ;)
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Well even here most employers won't be happy if you show up under the influence of cannabis :P
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 meh, not all countries are as forgiving when it comes to substances
@Tinkeringbell it's just on the screen :D
@Tinkeringbell haha true. Some jobs even have mandatory drug testings
07:40
Huh! When adding NSFW it does indeed give what @Luuklag got:
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 but NSFW is lacking from the search result ;)
Still, it did affect them somehow.... lol
throwing kish on @M.A.R
@Mith you like קיש?
Also there's story about ריש לקיש right? About the only story I remember from Judaism lessons in Bar Ilan.
@Rob new discount offer, can you find something cheaper?
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 That's a discount of more than 25%... that's against the rules! XD
Huh? Really? lol
Why limit discount rate?
Here there's something about price which must be fixed for at least two weeks prior to discount.
i.e. not have it cost $100, then one day make it cost $200 and in same day publish "50% discount!! $100 only!!"
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Because we can't have fun. It's the governments way of trying to enforce healthier lifestyles with less alcohol ;)
07:54
It was a thing, big time.
@Tinkeringbell ohh, on alcohol... yeah, here they did it to books.
On the one hand, I applaud that. On the other... it feels disproportional to those people that did not buy a lot of alcohol to begin with :D
Books of Israeli authors can't be sold with discount of more than 25%.
I think? Didn't check for a while.
I buy 1 or 2 bottles of alcohol a year, and I used to just keep an eye open for a good discount when I did.
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 here there is a fixed bookprice
@Luuklag whoa, that's neat.
@Tinkeringbell heh. Well here's I believe it's cheap, compared to rest of the world.
07:57
@Luuklag There is 'ramsj' though... :P
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 I have a lease car now. I'll just go shopping in Germany ;)
lol
No limit on distance you can drive per month?
oh wait. Congrats for driving again! :D
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Not that I know of, no. And with the work from home, a trip to Germany wouldn't put me over the limit anyways XD
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Meh. It's still a handicap car.
But it's something.
@Tinkeringbell didn't you buy your own car? what happened?
@Luuklag No, I didn't :) Maybe you're confusing me with my brother, who bought a car, then leased a car (with a limit on km per month) and now has bought another car?
:P
@Tinkeringbell or confusing you picking up a lease car with buying one
08:00
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Well, because of it I'm not not allowed off of base because we're on high alert
@Luuklag Could be too, yeah. :)
@Tinkeringbell so your planning on making that a weeks trip then, in a 45km car?
@Luuklag ;) It's a VW Polo, but with a special transmission so I don't have to shift gears manually. I'm still not back to being able to handle both traffic and a manual transmission, there's some sort of weird shortcircuiting going on when I try.
I bet I can get there faster than you though :D
08:02
Auto transmission is 'normal' no?
@Aibobot No? It's for handicapped people over here.
...o_o
meh, automatic gear-boxes are more and more common
Like, if you can't get your license in a normal car, you go try an automatic transmission one... and you get a license that only allows you to drive automatic too.
So it's a last resort for people with all sorts of disorders that make they can't shift gears.
08:04
@Tinkeringbell that's neat. I'm going to drive to Eilat soon, that's the most far I can reach lol.
Including, apparently, problems that exist solely between the ears.
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 because then your tank is empty?
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Yeah, why's that the furthest you can reach?
I was close! It's 350km
08:05
ah without crossing border
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Well, then you can drive up to Metula :P
@Mithical is it farther than Eilat? (from Tel Aviv area)
@Luuklag yeah
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 no, I mean, from Eilat up to Metula
@Luuklag no because Israel is too small. :D
@Mithical ohh. LOL
Well, just met a friend after years we didn't see each other, turns out he travelled 200000 km during 2020.
08:07
Two hundred thousand, he showed my his Google activity as proof. Insane.
how nice that 2/3 suggested routes are through germany
@Luuklag hehe, about same distance
@Tinkeringbell well technically I can go to Egypt/Jordan but... prefer not... ;)
@Tinkeringbell Maybe its a european thing. There's a joke about americans not being able to drive stick shift at all, and its a "eh, whichever you prefer" out here
though there's a seperate automatic only licence here
I once drove this bit:
but its for people who don't think they will ever drive a manual
08:10
@Luuklag wow
That's insane. And full with construction workers, hope you didn't hit any on your way.... :D
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 we mostly saw fugitives on our way then. Was a couple of years back, 6 or so?
yeah it was a nasty thing back then.
Rob
Rob
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 That prior 4L jug is cheaper, isn't it?
Poor souls.
@Rob but not same brand/type.
08:16
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 yeah, entire families walking along the highway in the middle of the night, in the pouring rain
Rob
Rob
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 68 1/2 Shekels: wine-searcher.com/find/…
It's from peedmont, coincidentally.
But for the rest it was quite okay. I was with my Inlaws, driving their car back for summer, so they could easily take their dog with them.
Did it in about 36 hours
Rob
Rob
08:46
@Luuklag Saw this on kush dot com, dragon balls:
dragon ball Z?
@Rob wow, those are 3kg of 99% pure THC
that will get you waste for forever
Rob
Rob
@Luuklag This is 5kg, get you this reaction:
09:02
@Rob yeah, you really must be a pothead to appreciate that xD
@Luuklag I'm well aware the people who post random images in answers are spammers (...well, abusive posters, at least). I'm just trying to figure out where they're coming from (especially the selfies, which is otherwise just weird). I have a pet theory that there's some tutorial or something somewhere that is suggesting that people post these on MSE, and so I'm asking everyone who does it what brought them here. And of course, flagging the post R/A :-)
...okay, maybe this one is different
Sorry about doppelganger comment But i am latinoamericana overlock hg Wells predicted morlocks coincidencia video centennials argentum la hincada picture the most defection photocopy about first budistas i want to side first certificated Oxford Cambridge like a rolling stone without trading is a girl mick jagger make dominator everyday what a feeling gratis thatquiz the Queen of the question quiz totschooling Bad i'm speaking now i want to take back double check in check out — Yesica Alegría 1 min ago
Did you ever get an answer to one of your comments though? I just expect them to be some random driveby
Hey they did reply in this case @RyanM
Sorry about doppelganger comment But i am latinoamericana overlock hg Wells predicted morlocks coincidencia video centennials argentum la hincada picture the most defection photocopy about first budistas i want to side first certificated Oxford Cambridge like a rolling stone without trading is a girl mick jagger make dominator everyday what a feeling gratis thatquiz the Queen of the question quiz totschooling Bad i'm speaking now i want to take back double check in check out — Yesica Alegría 1 min ago
Not sure what to make of it though
just random SEO words spammed together it appears
Yeah, no coherent answers yet, but I've only just started asking. And Glorfindel is quick at deleting things when around ;-)
Either way, I figure there's no harm in asking. Might stick to just asking on the selfies, though, since this looks like...something else.
Not really sure what.
Yeah, more nonsense in a second comment
maybe @Mithical is around as well?
oh
handled
yeah only needed one more
ah you were the other one
well a mod flagged it R/A I guess, or 6 red flags?
09:16
flagged for a mod to have the comments dealt with
@rene yeah I already flagged the comments as well :)
okay, so those won't get missed then ;)
hmmm my flags got cleared when the post got deleted?
yup, all got marked as helpful, but comments remain
Rob
Rob
@Luuklag Not since 30+ years ago, today I appreciate how far technology has come; and elimination of racist laws that favor longer sentences for some groups over others.
@Rob it was more of a generalisation, not making you out to be one ;)
I can honestly appreciate the technology that goes behind this, but don't got much exitement for the product itself
@rene now the post is red-flag nuked, so all is gone
09:23
even the account ...
@rene I think that kinda meets the definition of nonsense
Rob
Rob
@RyanM I call the selfie posts ham, like spam except they advertise themselves.
@JourneymanGeek I don't think the account needs an immediate nuke did some flagger say in their custom flag ...
Nope 😁
And I would have disagreed
@Rob they are noise and an abuse of network resources.
Also people could just not submit the post
Ahh my bad
@rene I mean I think it's warranted and it's a lot of word salad comments
sure
09:36
@Aibobot Had to run... I don't know if it's a European thing, and to be honest I don't care: They're the rules here and other countries having other rules doesn't make things suck less. Being only able to drive a car with automatic transmission is a disabled people thing here, and it sucks knowing that I could drive a normal car but if I had to get a license at this point, all I would be able to get is a disability thing just because I can't get over myself.
Rob
Rob
@JourneymanGeek I don't need to see some guy post his picture.
@Rob we do bot
@Tinkeringbell I mean eh. Elsewhere it's normal and fine 😁
@JourneymanGeek I'm not elsewhere though.
I am, as always, fine... but that doesn't matter much in this case :P
I know, in theory, how to drive a manual transmision, but in practice I've never done so above 5 miles per hour or so.
Which, as you might imagine, doesn't involve much gear shifting.
@RyanM It would, if you were in a Fast & Furious movie.
09:49
@VLAZ I've never watched those, but my understanding is that they do most of their driving above that speed :-p
@RyanM Well, I know in practice how to drive a normal car and I've done it plenty of times. And I will get back to it one day.
@RyanM Nah, everything you see in the movies is fake anyways, so the driving is obviously done at snail pace, then sped up.
@RyanM I've watched one and some snippets of some others. Each time there is a camera cut to the inside of the car (approximately, every 3.2 seconds), the driver is in the middle of shifting the gears. The only possible explanation is that cars in that universe must have about a bajillion (give or take) gears to switch through.
hahaha
Checks out
@Tinkeringbell or not at all and they wassname....
Fake it? yeah :P
09:57
Either composite, CGI or literally project a moving road behind the car
@Tinkeringbell meh it's just you who calls it disabled ;)
@VLAZ nah, you can also shift down, so you can continue shifting gears endlessly with in theory only 2 gears ;)
I think a large part of F&F is shot in the real world. Read an article about how they had to dodge the cops in tokyo to film tokyo drift
no, i stand corrected
mostly CGI
@Luuklag It's not? Basically every driving school that offers lessons in a car with automatic transmission calls them classes for disabled people.
Well yeah, there's a bit of a stigma there, but realistically most new cars sold today are automatically with an automatic transmission
Just because its a hell of a lot more fuel efficient
I don't care about fuel efficiency... I care about being able to do what I can.
@Luuklag screenrant.com/… this is the article I read I think
@Tinkeringbell well yeah, then you need the propper license, or visit a racetrack ;)
Or any other private area where road-laws are not valid
And find an insurer that want's to cover you ;)
10:11
I have the proper license! That's what makes this suck even more XD
I know I can... but somehow I just don't.
I'll get there.
@Tinkeringbell you know there are extended exams for people having anxiety issues for example right?
@Luuklag I already have a license, so I don't need those.
I drove a perfectly normal car until I had an accident, then afterwards I just don't anymore.
@Tinkeringbell so your brain just shortcircuits when you hold on to a gear shifter?
perhaps a car with flappy paddles might be a thing for you then?
@Luuklag does anyone but sports car makers make those?
@JourneymanGeek yeah they get more and more common, but mostly go with a "sport" package on a car
10:15
@Luuklag Yeah, because 'flappy paddles' doesn't sound like something made for disabled people XD
I bet there are VW golfs with them
I have a polo though, not a golf.
@Tinkeringbell and F1 drivers
@JourneymanGeek Well those aren't normal either. Have you seen how they've been acting recenlty?
@Tinkeringbell You can upgrade yourself: youtube.com/watch?v=HSt6aDY5Q0c
follow this indian guy
10:18
Nah thanks.
I'll just keep trying to get back to being a normal healthy human that can drive a normal car ;)
@Luuklag I think that is the minimum you can expect when you are not made of rubber.
@SPArcheon ?
You mentioned Gear shifting, but I fear most people would just explode if they even tried to go Gear Second.
10:24
wonder how many know the reference...
@MetaAndrewT. I'm not one of them...
@SmokeDetector yep, spam about religious thingy
@Tinkeringbell I'm driving a disables car today btw. Switched cars with my parents for the time my boys are at their place. Their car has a ramp in the backdoor to easily load a mobility scooter.
10:40
@Luuklag Be careful, those are expensive ;)
And also have terrible milage and a small fuel tank
How far would you want to drive a mobility scooter? :D
So I have to fill up before doing the trip back this afternoon
@Aibobot across countries, when it is loaded up in a car or trailer ;)
@Luuklag Yeah, that's very often a thing too XD
@MetaAndrewT. every single one from the Anime.SE board? :P
10:43
@Tinkeringbell yeah its tall and heavy at the same time. Great viaibility though with large windows and the lack of backseats
11:09
@Luuklag :(
@Rob huh. You win!
@Rob dragons have no balls, they lay eggs.
So, it's fake. ;)
@RyanM lost cause, IMO. You can try, sure, but I'm almost sure they're just being weird without any logical reason behind it. ;)
@Luuklag the other Steve?
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 there were already 2 delete votes on it, one from me, and then when it was deleted I saw that one was rene's
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 if they are people in the first place
status-trolling-successful
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Q: Who is the other Steve?

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2I happened to notice an unfamiliar domain in the source code, used to monitor Jobs traffic or something like that. Being a curious person, and a web programmer, I browsed to the plain domain: https://clc.stackoverflow.com/ This resulted in a cryptic message: Hi. I'm Steve. But not that Stev...

:D
@Luuklag yeah, the images are of poor enough quality, so it must be real. :P
Maybe weird kind of exhibitionists.
(luckily minus the nudity - just people who love to show themselves off)
nah this was just a random screenshot of some text
That said, all those who keep uploading their food pics to Instagram/Facebook constantly are also exhibitionists. :P
(formal definition doesn't say it must be nudity just people who seek attention by posting their own things)
@Luuklag ohh, I was talking about selfies. Well, this one might be spam indeed.
!!/selfie
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 No such command 'selfie'.
11:20
:(
Come on Smokey, show yourself!
Stop hiding behind that flame!
Behind the flame is a pile of spam
hehe
+1
Smelly spam, as it wasn't deleted in time.
Rob
Rob
11:32
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 They frequently do, in hand or mouth:
11:44
@Rob but what for?
user1035193
11:55
Hello! :)
user1035193
First time here. What do you folks talk about?
Welcome @Hcaertnit
Sometimes we talk about SE, but a lot of times just about a lot of random things
user1035193
Ah I see. Fun!
Rob
Rob
12:07
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Can't find the meaning, but it's common practice: m.ebay.com/itm/…
@Rob fair
@Hcaertnit anything :)
How did you get here? ;)
!!/coffee Hcaertnit
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 brews a cup of Americano for @Hcaertnit
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 probably by train
(j/k - here's your coffee)
@Luuklag nah, my doing this time. :P
12:12
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 good reminder its time for some actual coffee
Is it your sock?
@Luuklag Magic?
@Luuklag nope
I kind of said I can thank them for an upvote by giving coffee here..... blush
Haha always buying people off ;)
Rob
Rob
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 @Luuk's reference to "pearl" was helpful, to find a better reference: tibetanbuddhistencyclopedia.com/en/index.php/…
user1035193
12:31
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Hey, that's funny! I'm sleepy this morning, so that'll do well :)
@Hcaertnit awesome! :)
13:13
phew that is one report done. The one I wanted to be done on monday though...
Now off to build a DB and rework the population of that DB into the model before the weekend :/
@Luuklag Well, you have ~26 hours to do so if you want to be done at around 5PM tomorrow :P
More if you don't mind working until it's really Saturday :P
yeah, I have to leave in 45 mins to go pick up my kids. So then I have from 9pm onwards I think
And tomorrow afternoon I have some time, but then the boys are at home
So no, I wished I had 26 hours
and I would wish I had a clue on what I am doing there
At least everything is in Excel, so I don't really have to learn anything new
Well, it sounds like most of the work simply has to be done next week then :P
hmmm nope, not an option
Then I'm having my vacation, and I need the prototype ready before that
so yeah, FML
hands @Luuklag the caffeine IV
13:21
@Aibobot thx :)
@Luuklag Brew some coffee, but use energy drink instead of water ;) That sucks, good luck!
and crap. On monday, when I had a lot on my mind, work was loony
today my boss hasn't said a peep
@Tinkeringbell that sounds horribly grose
@Tinkeringbell would taste so bad it would wake ye up like a kick in the goolies
Ah I see Cat is awake again :)
13:37
@Luuklag k feedback given, spam gone up in waffle-scented smoke.
Argh, probably time for this computer to have some well deserved rest. It really went tripping when I unplugged the USB-C monitor
@Luuklag I had to replace mine. How old is yours?
Not that old, year, year and a half or something
and its from work, so I aint replacing nothing :)
hmmm its a 2018 model, so a bit older I guess xD
I guess its just because of the time its been up now, and all that is integrated in that one USB-C (power, display, usb-A hub)
which is actually all integrated in my monitor but okay
14:34
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16:29
@JNat Cross-site spammer: stackexchange.com/users/22389738/ashley
@Ollie Annoyingly, they created a new account per site they spammed.
Dirty buggers. Wish I had that kind of power...
... but it's probably best I don't ;)
 
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18:53
@Ollie Do dirty buggers have a lot of power?
And if they're so powerful, why are they so dirty.
Can't they like, monopolize soap or something.
It's just like an episode of Star Trek: Sopranos
19:36
Did Ayo silently disappear into the night?
19:49
eh
not necessarily silently
please do explain
given the edits to various posts, and the lack of a staff badge,
yeah, well I call that silently, as in there was no announcement or smth
Rob
Rob
20:43
It was the 10 interviews that wore him out.
@Rob Yeah, I was also checking all links on his profile, nothing yet so far. But then again, it probably is late evening for him as well
21:45
🚽
22:04
Did the profile pages just change for anyone else? I'm seeing this (on multiple sites, for multiple users)
@Dudecoinheringaahing Guess I'm too quick to notice things :P
Rob
Rob
22:28
@Luuklag There seems to be no recent activity here or on his own website, and his 'welcome announcement' was unclear whether he actually did get a [Staff] indicator applied to his account.
Yeah he had one I think @Rob
Yeah he did @Rob
mine changed, now it has this annoying "edit profile" section because my about me is blank
@KevinB Just edit it to "*Apparently, this user prefers to keep an air of mystery about them*", should look more or less like it used to :P
what i'd rather put there would get me suspended
22:52
Is there a wave of edits like these going on, or am I being really unlucky again?
Unrelated to that, but @Zoethe1337Princess with the new profile changes, visiting your profile fully freezes up the tab for ~10 seconds while it loads the XKCD and renders the trans flag :?
(Not trying to imply that's your fault fyi, I suspect there's something going on with the new UI)
No repro on my end, but SE has been sluggish for a good two weeks for me, everywhere
Decent chance I can't tell the difference between normal load and slow load anymore :')
I wouldn't even call it slow loading. The flag waves a couple of times, then scroll, clicking, flag waving etc. just stop for a few seconds until the XKCD appears
The xkcd is fairly big. Some caching might be in play. /shrug

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