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2:05 AM
@Someone_Evil Two options - post a updated question/answer pair, referencing the old question, pointing out the answer is no longer true - and hopefully the dupe close happens the right way
or post an answer pointing out the selected answer is no longer true
 
 
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whoop whoop
 
yay me
I beat SD ;)
 
Fastest spam hammerer in the west
 
@Tinkeringbell yeah I manually reported it :)
@cat is also still going strong in the middle of the night?
 
Shhhhh
I'm going now.
 
sure, see you in 6 to 8 minutes ...
 
7:20 AM
You always say that, and yet nothing ever changes...
 
7:33 AM
:P
 
and low and behold, she still is here :)
 
@Luuklag Try singing a lullaby
 
Slaap kindje slaap, daar buiten loopt een schaap. Een schaap met witte voetjes, die drinkt zijn melk zo zoetjes. Slaap kindje slaap, daar buiten loopt een schaap.
now don't you fall asleep @tink
 
Too late. But I never woke up to begin with ;)
 
haha
Wow, Cat goes to sleep, and @jnat shows up
 
7:50 AM
Cat and 'Nat, switching off.
 
Probably socks. Cat is on 24/7.
 
8:35 AM
Need to replace socks though, or they start smelling.
@MetaAndrewT. :P
@Catija glad to hear. I played all night long with a cousin who live in the USA and came over to visit during summer holiday, when we were teenagers.
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 just take them out your drawer so they can vent ....
 
We literally played all night, then slept few hours in the morning. lol
 
that went nicely in between ...
 
Good old times.. we always went for the Big Cake.
@rene lol
 
interleaving ...
 
8:38 AM
Well flowers do that
@rene I don't place dirty/used socks in the drawer, I either keep them on my legs or throw to laundry. :P
Drawer has only clean socks. I hope. ;)
 
Don't ask your wife then or you might be in for a surprise ;)
 
I don't know what she's doing with the socks, just that I always get them clean after laundry. :D
(I fold the clean clothes after it's dry ;))
hmm... daily English lesson... can clothes that were washed still be called "laundry"? Or does this word only refer to clothes before/during the process of cleaning? @Mithical you're my local English guru, what you say? :D
 
Yes, that's the clean laundry, as opposed to dirty laundry. Once it's in the closet it's just clothes.
 
ohh
Awesome! +1
So, I fold the clean laundry. :)
hmm
ohh oops wrong room, who placed the tabs so nearby? :D
@Mithical @rene any chance to move those two messages to Den? Thanks! :D
 
8:56 AM
you?
 
@JourneymanGeek innocent look
;)
 
9:07 AM
@Luuklag that means Cat's up late, I'd say
 
maybe? dunno
 
Cat is a night-owl I think
shes up late a lot of times
 
heh
So it's useful with kids. :D
 
Jul 29 at 5:46, by Catija
My husband is the one who does the morning stuff - he's always been more of a morning person, so he goes to bed around 10 and wakes up early, usually before the kids, and I get to sleep in... though I still probably don't get enough sleep.
And some messages around that.
 
@Luuklag and the internet dosen't have a time zone, even if swatch thought they did.
Could we get a list of the answer headers in the question so one does not need to scroll so much? — joojaa 17 hours ago
Its a pretty unique problem, and I do wonder if we can jerryrig something pending working out what to do
Maybe a google doc? And not all answers have title-ish things
 
@JourneymanGeek answer headers?
 
@Luuklag yeah - was thinking a google doc at first
@Luuklag shedload of answers that matter I guess.
 
I don't really see the point. If you know it was by a certain person, you can just go to their profile and find the direct link there
 
@Luuklag less "who" than "what"
I'm surprised there's no real dupes either
 
9:25 AM
Otherwise you will need to read the answer anyways to know what it is about, cause most answers can't really be summarised in one sentence. Except mine :)
 
(Well or a follow on the question I guess)
 
10:05 AM
@SmokeDetector k
 
10:29 AM
Check harder next time @tink ;)
 
Still not awake :P
 
!!/coffee tink
 
@Luuklag brews a cup of Macchiato for @tink
 
First, lunch ;)
maybe coffee later :)
 
wash down lunch with coffee ;)
Ah damn, I stacked my sandwiches in the wrong order. Now I have hagelslag all over my meat
 
10:37 AM
The hot water won't work, so I can't have the coffee I was planning on...
 
You can always make coffee with cold water.
It tastes terrible, though.
 
Uhh... yeah, instant coffee with cold water sounds like a great idea.
I just went to fiddle with the water pipes, so maybe that'll fix things? *shrugs confusedly*
 
You can always improvise - get a magnifying glass and focus the sun on your water. If you hurry up, it will be boiling before sun down.
(assuming you're in Europe-ish. You have more time if you're further west. Maybe not enough if you're further east.)
 
Got six or seven hours until sundown, yeah.
Sounds like a plan.
 
@Mithical wait what, you use hot tap water to make coffee?
That can't be real coffee...
 
10:42 AM
@Luuklag No, it feeds through to a water filter machine.
 
Your coffee maker doesn't heat its own water?
 
*shrugs* It's not a coffee maker, it's just a water machine. And the hot water has supposedly been heating for the past five hours but there's no hot water.
 
Sounds like its time to get yourself a coffee maker
 
If the military wants to buy me one, I'd be thrilled :P
 
I bet chances are slim to none then ;)
 
10:51 AM
@Mithical microwave
@VLAZ might miss the water, cause a fire.... ;)
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 With a fire, you can boil water without needing the Sun
 
@Luuklag coffee makers are very rare in Israel for personal usage. (Not espresso machines, those are common, those "filter" machines that are common in USA and Europe too?)
 
@Luuklag Dutch People Problems ;)
 
@VLAZ but you won't have a building to make it in, and too hot outside.
:D
 
10:54 AM
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 But when you go outside after the fire, it will feel a lot cooler.
 
these ones?
 
See, I'm all about finding solutions :P
 
They litteraly go for less then €20,-
 
@Luuklag yup, those are rare here
 
@Luuklag unless you want a fancy one but yeah. They are common enough.
 
10:56 AM
@Luuklag feel free to send me as gift, my kids would love to play with it. :D
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 and get their fingers burned on the hotplate?
 
@VLAZ hehe :P
@Luuklag meh, they keep hurting themselves in very creative ways without my help. ;)
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 you just found yourself a new buisnessmodel. Start a dropshipping one ;)
 
Daughter started working as Dog Walker, on her first day, dog started to run, pulled her, she fell and hurt her hand pretty badly.
@Luuklag nah, people in Israel just don't like filter coffee. Think there're articles about it. lol
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 they're in favour of these syrup things that aren't real coffee?
 
11:01 AM
> It’s rare to see standard American filter coffee — in my experience it tastes like weakly flavored hot water.
Actually, I had no idea that filter coffee even exists, until I visited USA for the first time, 13 years ago. :D
 
> And according to the Israeli website CoffeeShop.co.il, most of the coffee consumed in Israel is instant, dosed out in freeze-dried pebbles or powder.
 
@Luuklag nah, on the contrary. I think. lol
 
That doesn't sound like real coffee to me
 
@Luuklag yup. that's at least not syrup... ;)
@Luuklag as real as anything... we need a Coffee Judge. :P
 
main takeaway, tel-aviv residents don't work, they sit at a caffe all day
 
11:05 AM
Someone neutral who can decide what's real coffee and what's a fake! ;)
 
11:22 AM
Time for coffee, @Mithical help me choose. נס קפה or קפה בוץ? :D
 
...mud?
 
Book!
@Mithical OK, thanks for helping me to decide. Going to make! ;)
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 miracle coffee?
 
@Luuklag LOL!! haha.... lol... hehehe... can't stop laughing
umm
But yeah that's the name. ;)
I'm not 100% sure, but think it's just a typo that stuck for good, the actual word is נמס, which means something that melts, the middle letter just... vanished, leaving נס.
Or.... maybe people actually considered a coffee that melts as a miracle, being used to coffee that never melt.
Like "Pelephone", the most known name/phrase for smartphones in Israel, where "Pele" means a wonder, something marvelous. lol
 
Damn you guys sound just like the french
thinking of a new name for everything english
 
11:36 AM
So to this day, even on TV and official events, people call any mobile device "pelephone".
 
computer = ordinateur
 
@Luuklag well Pelephone is actually a company, the first to bring smartphones here, but still...
Pelephone (Hebrew: פלאפון‎, [peleˈfon], lit. "wonder phone") is a mobile network operator in Israel, and also the first company to offer mobile telephony services in Israel. Due to this, the brand-name "Pelephone" became the genericized trademark for mobile phones in Israel, regardless of service provider. The company is a subsidiary of the Israeli telecommunications conglomerate Bezeq, which is also the principal provider of terrestrial telephone service in the country. As of June 2016 Pelephone had 2.26 million wireless subscribers. == History == Pelephone was founded as a company in 1985 as...
"wonder phone". LOL
@Luuklag heh, luckily no such thing here for computer, but we do have it for other things, as you can see. lol
Another "victim" is off-road vehicles which got a generic name in Israel, Jeep, which was the first to arrive. So to this day, people call any brand of such vehicle "jeep" even if it's totally different company making it.
 
Rob
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Tricky question, complicated answer:
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Same around here. Anything that's sort of "big car" is called a jeep. I grew up with this and was surprised when I found out it's an actual brand.
 
Rob
- It's "washing" when it goes into the laundry hamper (or, just dirty clothes strewn around the house) and hasn't spun dry (damp), but that can be "laundry" too. Then the cloth (towels, clothes, rags) are dried either by hanging or machine, they are still "laundry". It's only when it's "delivered to its delivery (penultimate serving) location" that it's no longer "laundry".
For example a towel brought out of the laundry room and placed in a suitcase (for traveling) or on a towel rack is no longer "laundry", even though it's never been in a drawer or closet. A shirt that has been ironed and folded is no longer"laundry", even though it's next to the ironing board.
 
11:48 AM
@Rob well, think @Mith kind of had same answer just much more simple? ;)
 
Rob
For a bonus it was wrong too.
 
@VLAZ huh, interesting! Thought only Israel had such weird things with brands.
@Rob no no, Mith can't be wrong, it will ruin everything I believe in... :P
 
If by "wrong" you mean "didn't address every edge case because it wasn't relevant at the time", then sure. *sighs*
 
@Mithical hehe
I also prefer KIS
 
lol
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 first mover brand genericitation is a thing
 
11:53 AM
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 It's a common phenomenon. "xerox" is a typical example I've seen given for the US which turned into a verb meaning "to photocopy something". There is also "Kleenex", "Thermos", "Frisbee" that all are trademarks. Bayer made up this drug and trademarked it as "aspirin". But they then lost the trademark as many manufacturers also labelled theirs with the same name.
 
@JourneymanGeek hehe. Well, my KIS was referring Mith keeping the explanation simple, without edge cases. ;)
 
Oh I mean for your victims.
 
@VLAZ heh. Knew about some, never thought some aren't the actual name. lol
 
I happened to be reading about some genericised brands the other day and there are many that I was surprised by. Even "escalator" was a brand.
 
@VLAZ Those are fun to read about, as are the things like 'peanut butter' can't be called 'butter' in the Netherlands, so it's called 'peanut cheese' XD
 
12:01 PM
@VLAZ huh!
What about Cola? (without Coke)
 
@VLAZ same as round-up, which is just the brandname of the substance glyphosate
 
@Tinkeringbell I noticed some drinks around here being called something different recently. They used to be just "juice" but nowadays they are advertised as "non-fizzy drinks" or "fruit-flavoured drinks" and similar. Basically various ways of saying it's a liquid but not making any other hard statements.
 
@VLAZ ketchup was renamed here to "tomato sauce" at some point. lol
 
Yeah, a lot of those names are "protected" like something can only be juice if its actual juice, and not some diluted stuff
someone I know from uni is now a professor in "Food Law"
 
Rob
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 That may be, but based on your very fast reply (too quick to have read those links, let alone the details) two things arise: you're lucky someone else does the laundry, and your clothes you're wearing may have been picked out from the wrong pile.
 
12:13 PM
lol
When I was a student, I just had a clean and dirty bag
 
Rob
That keeps it simple.
 
@Luuklag It's sometimes even stranger. Technically, what they sell is juice. From fruits. Just not "orange juice" because it's not made from oranges. It's actually something like apple juice base with some orange flavouring and colouring.
 
12:29 PM
@VLAZ yeah I know, there are strange things around.
 
@VLAZ Yep. That's a rule too, it needs to have a certain percentage of fruit juice to be called juice, otherwise it's juice-flavored :D
@VLAZ A lot of berry-flavored softdrinks here have more apple juice than actual berry juice.
 
@Tinkeringbell yup
 
@Tinkeringbell To paraphrase the old joke - it's a 1:1 mix. One apple to one berry.
 
I don't mind though. Most of it still tastes nice, which is what I drink it for :P
 
Here you have a cranberry drink
and then the ingredients:
Ingrediënten: Vruchtensap uit concentraat (appel 80%, cranberry 20%),
now if you ask me, there are far more cranberries on that package then there are apples
 
12:36 PM
Yeah, I bet there'll be a rule some day :P
 
I have a bottle of apple not-juice here and the ingredients say it's minimum 5% apple juice.
 
The 'raspberry and cranberry' variant of Dubbelfrisss is also bad: 10% apple, aronia berry (unquantified), 1,0% raspberry, 1,0% cranberry
 
yeah, but dubbelfriss is just your next soda. Probably loaded with sugars or arteficial sweeteners
 
True :P But there's not a single apple on the packaging ;)
 
@Rob oh wait, I should have read the answers? ;)
blush
@Luuklag lol, typical marketing lies. :D
 
12:48 PM
@Tinkeringbell or "juice drink" or "product"
 
"Cranberry flavored water" would be more accurate. No?
 
Its probably a thing
 
Also, cranberries are 'healthy' but... too tart for western tastes.
Asians on the other hand...
"If it tastes bad, it has to be good for you"
 
12:51 PM
@JourneymanGeek nah I like cranberry juice every now and then
 
Actual cranberry juice or cranberry flavoured carrier juice? :D
 
Rob
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 the Groot - It would probably be easier for your country to switch to Groot, then we can just type "Groot" and you'll know, or not, maybe 50/50 outcome; maybe not.
 
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@JourneymanGeek case in point: covid disinfectant
 
@JourneymanGeek actual juice
 
1:11 PM
@JohnDvorak Well, some herbs are somewhat poisonous...
 
@JourneymanGeek those taste good though :D
 
No, they taste horrible, but they make you so sick you forget you were sick
 
@JourneymanGeek I disagree. Rotten meat tastes awful :P
 
"Have you tried potatoes yet?"
"Not bad, but they made me incredibly sick"
"The underground part!!!"
 
Hákarl (an abbreviation of kæstur hákarl Icelandic pronunciation: ​[ˈcʰaistʏr ˈhauːˌkʰa(r)tl̥], referred to as fermented shark in English) is a national dish of Iceland consisting of a Greenland shark or other sleeper shark that has been cured with a particular fermentation process and hung to dry for four to five months. It has a strong ammonia-rich smell and fishy taste, making hákarl an acquired taste.Fermented shark is readily available in Icelandic stores and may be eaten year-round, but is most often served as part of a þorramatur, a selection of traditional Icelandic food served at t...
 
1:18 PM
@JohnDvorak To be fair though, the underground part can also make you sick, I believe.
 
@JohnDvorak I guess it's his example of rotten meat that doesn't taste awful :P
 
I'm asking about the underground parts being unhealthy
 
@JourneymanGeek There is actually a Doraemon episode about that ....
 
I contest that eating rotten food because your ancestors did and survived that can't be anything but acquired taste at best
 
1:21 PM
@JohnDvorak or as Obelix once replied to Axterix asking how date tasted "they are a little crunchy in the middle"
 
@JohnDvorak Oh... I seem to recall a history lesson about a painting featuring people that only ate mostly potatoes, and they got sick because of that?
 
afternoon
apparently i'm a bad citizen of worldbuilding
 
what did you do?
 
1:31 PM
Is someone already editing the headers in the magic wand question? I was going to tackle it
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2
 
@curious I'll need to look at my answer(s) and add one
 
@curious To be fair.... I wouldn't do it. There are many posts with many answers, and unless they're FAQ posts, having the answers linked in the question makes little sense to me.
 
@Tinkeringbell All good! I was a bit on the fence about it
 
But I just noticed Philippe has no objections and it's his post so...
Whatever you want to do :P
 
haha
The cat looks at the dog, then looks at the bird
I think I'll just go back to sleep ;)
 
1:35 PM
Ooh, sounds like a great plan. Wish I could join you! :P
 
@Tinkeringbell probably malnutrition. Potatoes are a great staple food, but eating only 1 food will do you no good
 
@Tinkeringbell Unfortunately I'm joking x)
 
@curious Oh, I don't think I have the spoons to make a list
 
Gotta love prepping classes not knowing if they're going to be held remote or in-person. Blergh.
 
but I can try to make it easier for whoever tries
 
1:36 PM
I was looking for a distraction :D
 
@Luuklag If it was good enough for Watney....
 
@JourneymanGeek whatney?
 
The Martian is a 2011 science fiction novel written by Andy Weir. It was his debut novel under his own name. It was originally self-published in 2011; Crown Publishing purchased the rights and re-released it in 2014. The story follows an American astronaut, Mark Watney, as he becomes stranded alone on Mars in 2035 and must improvise in order to survive. The Martian, a film adaptation directed by Ridley Scott and starring Matt Damon, was released in October 2015. == Plot summary == In 2035, the crew of NASA's Ares 3 mission have arrived at Acidalia Planitia for a planned month-long stay on Mars...
 
@JohnDvorak my question was off topic
and I got a bit of flak for it
but I did get 7 satisfactory answers so shrug
 
@curious Ahh, quick, look to your left!
 
1:42 PM
@Tinkeringbell Squirrel?
 
@curious Squirrel!
To be fair... there have been a few really, really really big dragonflies flying around here lately, so if I look to my left I'm likely to see one. They're very good distractions XD
 
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Borg Bear Army?
 
@Tinkeringbell Make sure if you see a drowning dragonfly to help it out of the water
 
@magisch Ehh, the only water here where they could drown, is on top of the shed. I'm not going to get a ladder just to get an insect that was dumb enough to land there :P
 
1:46 PM
@magisch I did that once and it smacked me in the nose.
 
@Ollie It was a thankful boop
 
Because if you see a drowning dragonfly and don't help it, it may have been SCP 4399 instead and then you'll slowly drown on dry land over weeks
 
Thing is with our insects and animals, etc., whenever we help them, they do it again.
Baby robins throwing themselves out the nest, raccoons jumping from the rooftops onto the metal bulkhead and making horrid noises...
 
@magisch that was darker than I expected
 
I was going for a SCP joke but both of you were too quick to respond for me to execute it
 
1:47 PM
@JourneymanGeek Bare borg bears barely bearing it
 
Heh.
@JourneymanGeek That ping sounded odd, can you do it again?
 
@Ollie Its a different ping here
 
@JourneymanGeek scp foundation stuff usually is
 
@JourneymanGeek I know, it didn't include the biddy-babap. Just bapaaa
 
@Ollie I have complained about the BONG on main chat before
 
1:49 PM
@JourneymanGeek oh I think this is the one we have a GD.SE
 
@JourneymanGeek I like it!
 
@curious SE chat is all on the same server
MSE is on its own
I don't know what it is on SO
 
You're so special
 
@JourneymanGeek Also its own sound.
 
I like the ping here, it's a bit less aggressive even if it's a bit high pitched
 
1:51 PM
yup
Granted, my phone notification tone is a steam horn
 
hey mith
waves
 
@magisch *raises hand in greeting*
 
this is why I like discord
discord has pepe emotes for every type of greeting or conveyance of mood
 
uhm
Didn't pepe get... misappropriated by less savory sorts?
 
1:53 PM
briefly
 
@magisch blorp!
 
isn't pepe a frog?
 
I wouldn't say pepe in general has a negative connotation now besides that it's associated with twitch chat a lot
 
there are so many expressive pepes around
 
1:54 PM
@curious video unavailable
 
aww
 
@JourneymanGeek There's a different version of Pepe - I don't recall the name - that's a dogwhistle for the alt right.
 
If we culturally stopped using anything that idiots appropriate then they would have a very effective weapon against us
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But yeah, the creator of Pepe has strongly denounced the usage
 
@Mithical Unfortunately - sometimes the things we make grow beyond what we intend
sometimes bad, sometimes worse
@magisch Maybe, but unfortunately it affects people who arn't those idiots
 
1:56 PM
things like peepoHappy or peepoSad orPeepoHey or peepoSus don't really have a context beyond conveying that emotion
 
Also, for those unaware, Ask Ubuntu was going to have its own chat sound as well:
 
@JourneymanGeek Isn't it called 'reclaiming' at that point? Like how 'gay' turned from an archaic word for happy, to a slur, to now something people 'reclaim'?
 
And dink! for SU
 
@Tinkeringbell If you can, and its worth it
 
Not Mithical on half the starboard again
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1:58 PM
But that needs the people affected to reclaim it
 
@JourneymanGeek Or the people using it to never let those idiots claim it in the first place ;)
 
@Ollie I think they are Mithed
@Tinkeringbell Assuming that's a choice.
 
tbh
 
@Ollie It's quite annoying, actually. Everything I say getting spotlighted? Tons more scrutiny :P
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the server i'm on that has a lot of these emotes is one of the worst places for white supremacists and neo nazis to show up
 
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