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@Feeds Common quantum logic gate symbols:
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3:06 AM
@Spe, checking the History it was done for a reason.
There's probably a SEDE to find out how many times the tag was removed.
@Rob I figured as much. Thanks for pointing me that-a-way. Keeping the caps is definitely preferable.
3:22 AM
@Spe 1804 times added, when it wasn't there originally; which is the opposite of "how many times was it removed" - I'll have to search for (and test) that one later. --- Hopefully the additions underwent some scrutiny, and were applied correctly; in that event it's usage isn't particularly frequent.
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@Feeds Highlights from our 2021 Onebox Survey
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7:00 AM
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7:16 AM
@rene first order of buisness for the day?
@Luuklag yeah. i slept in for a bit. The six o'clock wake up call came and went.
@rene haha same here. But I decided to relocate my 6 o'clock alarm to 7. Seeing I only have 2 boys at home, and not a wife and daughter. Saves a load of time in the morning :)
7:33 AM
7:57 AM
@Xnero it is meant to happen, yes — apologies for the confusion, we clearly forgot to leave an announcement on Meta in advance as we usually do for pro-tem elections
but it looks like one of the mods from Drones had already given a bit of context in the chat room user1271772 linked to
@JNat Another step to add in automating elections ;)
8:28 AM
@SmokeDetector k
9:09 AM
Nice round number for this years rep :)
Time to stop getting reputation.
Yeah, just call this year quits
@SPArcheon oh, OK. :D
Is there life after 25K ...
@Rob well, I ain't dead yet...
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 and then 400+K meta.stackexchange.com/users/811/shog9
@Luuklag eh, you have somewhat of an advantage being a CM or Mod, and your level of tenure
Friendly reminder that Which computer science / programming Stack Exchange sites do I post on? is only relevant for programming questions, and sending users asking for recommendations for questions about server configuration, general computing, etc. to that page won't help them.
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Did you forget about 25,873?
PSA, perhaps its time to clean up the pinned starboard?
9:26 AM
@Luuklag that's already Skeet League
@Luuklag not sure, it auto expire after 14 days (each pin)
Too many important announcements all at once...
@Rob of course not.
> RPL36 ribosomal protein L36 [ Homo sapiens (human) ]
That's 25873 ^
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 brings me back to Uni
@Mithical SE needs to stop doing things! Err, wait, doing things is good...
@Rob what about that protein? Is it blue?
9:31 AM
cytochrome c oxidase subunit 6A1 [ Homo sapiens (human) ] The leet gene
This target isn't better (meta.stackexchange.com/questions/27520/…) - perhaps the other needs a bit of scope expansion.
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Currently it buys you nothing: meta.stackexchange.com/help/privileges
I didn't learn about proteins or ribosoms in school or uni.
@Rob it buys you 20 max bounties for free.
(as in you can give 20 bounties, 500 each, without losing any privilege. ;))
But do you have a question / request that you want to promote that badly?
9:34 AM
@Rob no, just spreading some love rep around.
(in theory, personally I don't do it.)
Also, 30k might give something special in the future:
Q: What privilege should 30k users get?

Jon EricsonThe last time we lifted the level cap was in 2015. In 2014, we added a unilateral close-as-duplicate power for gold tag badge holders, but no new reputation level. So we've been thinking about giving users more reasons to keep playing. (I've answered this question with some circumstantial evidenc...

Wasn't rejected, yet.
I've been on both ends, getting 2 in a row on the same answer is a great thanks.
^^ Our pension will drift us to 30K by the time that's implemented.
Been so long, that person left.
9:44 AM
Wanted to say "right" but not enough details.
@Luuklag ohhh. lol
Well, true for most old requests.
Well, this was a "staff" post if I read between the lines
OP got inactive at some point.
@Luuklag kind of, it's more of personal whim of someone who happened to work for SE at the time.
Shog also posted few, even rejected some of his own requests, as far as I remember. I find it funny. ;)
Q: Change "comment" to "critique or request clarification"

Shog9Got around to talking about comment flags with Robert Cartaino this morning... We're working on rejiggering the flagging options to make it a bit more obvious when stuff should be flagged, with the end goal of making it possible to automate some of the current flag-handling. More on that later; o...

And there are more, lol
never mind, self-deleted already
yeah, I was in the middle of writing a comment for @RyanM ... anyway: performance forbid that the red-dot is personalized.
@rene Sounds legit, but on the other hand, can't it be done client-side?
9:58 AM
the drop-down kind of does that. It issues on xhr call to get up to date data before it shows up
@Luuklag consider Stack Overflow: 1 million requests, if it will have to query for each, server will crash.
I recall on SO /review would go belly up and then Shog9 fiddled with queue settings to get it back to life
@rene Fair but frustrating. I bet that it'd be solvable with enough work, but it wouldn't be near the top of my list of issues with review to fix...
Red Dot Project, aka RDP
Estimated Developer Time: ~100 Hours
(e.g., have a fast-access lookup for when the user last reviewed, and then only check if it was within some threshold of recency such that they would be likely to have reviewed items in the queue already...not perfect, but better)
10:22 AM
Is it helpful to mod flag MSE questions that belong on per-site metas for migration there?
10:34 AM
Very carefully
If its excellent, accidentally asked here, and not for scope for us, yes
10:52 AM
@JourneymanGeek So "migrate this to MSO so we can close it as a dupe" (e.g., the most recent migration) would fail that first one, and we should just suggest it in the comments and VTC?
(of course, Glorfindel's a ninja and/or robot and was already migrating the question as I wrote out my question here...)
I expect that excellent questions about specific sites tend not to be asked on the wrong meta, but I'm sure it happens...
11:22 AM
@RyanM "So we can close it as a dupe" feels like a general waste of time :D
Perhaps, but the comment discussions are often useful to the OP, at least
But I see your point
not on this case :(
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 I guess it's inaccurate to say: "Jon left SE" when he was here yesterday, and some people haven't briefly visited since Mar/Apr. But he left in the sense that he was an employee when he posted that, and with his leaving, hopes for that (well supported) idea have faded.
...yeah, it was kinda implied that "leaving SE" meant his departure from the company...
11:58 AM
@Rob I don't think his leaving SE as employee has/had any effect; He never had any real inside impact on such decisions to begin with.
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 "never" is a very broad thing
I'm pretty sure CMs have had an impact on decisions like that when SE isn't disfunctional
So when are you going to become a CM @JourneymanGeek. I read that Phillipe said they will expand the countries/regions they'll be hiring from
@Luuklag I'll hold off on hoping till I know I'm in one of those
12:04 PM
@Wolf ???
did anyone ever request to see the author of a comment in your global inbox?
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 I agree with Jou, CMs have some "impact" - they have meetings, pitch ideas, vote on them, some get implemented, some backburner, some it's decided that's not the direction we are heading ATM. Do you have a link for "pecking order of impact"?
@Rob CEO > President of something > VP of anything > commonfolk
None of whom are CMs.
12:19 PM
@Rob the latter category are
And Phillippe would fall in the second to last category
and Theresa in the second category
I doubt that they don't take any input from their team-members
they must have meetings every now and then
(*Teresa. Without an "h".)
Like in mother Teresa ;)
@JourneymanGeek hey man, never stop hoping. :)
@Luuklag I don't think so. Go ahead, worst case I have hammer right here, ready for use.;)
@Rob no link, but someone can gather stats of requests done by staff which were actually done; I'm pretty sure the ratio is even lower than the requests done by ordinary people.
maybe tonight, I've got to finish a report, and then pack the boys some stuff for their sleepover at their grandparents
Maybe, probably, because they were aiming high, but still.
@Luuklag huh, so you get to spend night(s?) without kids? Only with wife? That's awesome!
12:30 PM
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 without everyone. My wife and daughter are with my inlaws on vacation
Hi Rosie, good to see you here :)
This is an example of an "unsupported statement about a single category" (not a hierarchy):
@Luuklag oh. So... alone?! I didn't have a single night alone since... hmm.... since moving to live with my wife, 11 years ago. ;)
Good morning/afternoon @Luuklag and everyone else
12:33 PM
@Rosie waves
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 wow, she is really clingy ;)
or are you?
I hope everyone is doing well.
I'll survive. Too much stuff to finish before holidays next week
@Luuklag not really, and neither am I... I just never asked, or tried. lol
12:35 PM
hence a good thing I'll be alone
Yes, thanks for asking.
I had army services, but I wasn't really alone even there, was sleeping with several other men in same tent/room.
@Rob you're welcome? Asking what? :)
@Luuklag what holidays are due next week?
To wait.
Here we have holidays throughout September, three consecutive holidays.
@Rob did you really wait?
Or did @Spe interfere in the process of waiting? ;)
12:39 PM
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 my summer holidays
: )
I'm barely functioning this morning. Caffeine levels are low.
At least my arm isn't as stiff as it was this morning. Got a 250 km drive ahead of me later today
@Spevacus same here. I was getting ready this morning and realized when I got dressed that my hair was dry...meaning I was such a zombie that I totally imagined I had showered but in fact did not.
@Rosie Good thing you're still working from home right ;)
Or did you have any appointments outdoors today?
12:46 PM
Still working from home. I'm hoping to go to the office someday...with the variants and cases rising though I don't want to get hopeful about an ETA though
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 brews a cup of Mocha for @Spe
Can we get rid of this migration stub, the author self-deleted their MSO version meta.stackexchange.com/questions/368162/…
@Rosie yeah same here, although I got my last shot yesterday :)
12:47 PM
@Rosie I got a bit further than that a couple weeks ago. I showered, dressed, and walked out to door, only to arrive at work with extremely messy hair - I hadn't tamed it after coming out of the shower, so it was everywhere. At the time, I had longer hair than I do now.
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Much :)
@Rosie ouch lol
@Spevacus :)
!!/coffee everyone
@Luuklag brews a cup of Mocha for @everyone
why can it never be real coffee
and why doesn't my report(s) finish itself magically :/
@Spevacus how did you find out? ;)
12:48 PM
nice. I've had both shots, which I'm grateful for, I know it's a lot harder to get in certain areas. My partner's family in Brazil were just able to get theirs
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 a bird tried to settle down and raise a family in it
@Rosie yeah that's great for them. I don't hear a lot of positive stories about Brazil and corona though
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Randomly had the urge to pee when I arrived. Walked right past a mirror and... Quickly wetted my hands and tried to reign it in. Hahaha.
that is a weird sentence
It was a weird morning.
12:52 PM
I bet
I'm also still low on caffeine so it's possible that I completely bungled the english in that sentence. Let me go fix that...
@luuklag yeah both my partner and I have family all around the world so it's hard knowing some of them are having a tougher time through all of this
It's only bad when the squirrels move in:
@Rosie that's good, from what I heard and know, having both shots doesn't prevent getting infected with the Delta variant of COVID, but it does help to prevent hard symptoms.
@RyanM :P
@Spevacus lol! And? Had success?
yeah that's why I'm not banking on the office right now, I'm less worried about getting really sick and more concerned about being an unknown carrier at this point
12:56 PM
@Rosie global family, nice. :)
@Rosie yup, fair.
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 untill you want to visit them, or timezones kick in and you want to call ;)
@Rob they look happy
@Luuklag lol, also true...
My inlaws were expats for a while. It does come with nice "free"ish holidays, but besides that there are a lot more benefits in having them live close (100km) by
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 what neck of the woods are you in? I'm in NYC. My partner and I have family across the states but then he has family in Brazil and Italy. I've got family in the UK, France, and Austria. We both have friends across all continents though.
The past few months have been really tough for my friends here whose parents live in countries where it is almost impossible to get a vaccine although it seems like more of them are finally able to get their first or second shots which is such a blessing
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Happy hair?
1:02 PM
Rosie and family for world domination xD
@Rosie Israel for me, and family "only" in USA and England. ;)
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 nice :)
@Rosie yeah, that's a blessing indeed, and hopefully things will improve soon enough. :)
@Rob only during Happy Hour
Well I'm off for a while, got to get packing
yeah, my partner and I are hoping we can pull off a wedding in the spring with friends and family, but we're taking it day by day. I'd rather postpone further or honestly just elope and have a party in the future, if things aren't in a great place but we're hoping things will improve enough by then
1:08 PM
@Rosie Yeah acquintances of mine have been postponing their wedding for about 2 years now.
yeah we had some friends postpone a few times and others that eventually happened but we weren't comfortable traveling at that time so we just sent our congratulations from afar
yeah it really is shitty this pandemic. Let's hope things get under control at some point. I have lost all hope of a speedy resolution anyways
1:31 PM
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 That's 100% hair, pure and raw, it's neither happy nor unhappy - it doesn't have feelings.
@Rob its dead...
Shadow's Jim.
@Rob it can be blue though.
1:50 PM
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 the local erinaceinae blue ambassador would kindly request that to be changed to "My Sweet Passion".
(hopefully they won't notice this message)
2:01 PM
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Not the same as blue skin.
@SPArcheon too late
@Rob of course. Skin has different role, more important.
Hair keeps one warm; Skin keeps bad things out of the body. :D
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 I meant that the local erinaceinae shouldn't notice it.
@SPArcheon oh. And they didn't notice yet?
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Hasn't replied yet so...
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 It's not monkey skin blue, if it's not blue monkey skin.
Much like this is not Donna Summer:
2:10 PM
@Rob sad but probably true.
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Your friend is famous - Biology.SE probably NSFW, somewhere ...
@Rob huh! Nice find. Legit use of the trashed picture. ;)
@bobble there's a bird staring at you
glares at ENTER key which clicked prematurely
2:26 PM
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 shh, I was going to lurk and not do my work
@bobble on closer inspection, you're safe, dodged her glare just by inch.
Perhaps she's asleep.
I am watching.
Sleeping birds can still fly into rooms?
@Slate jumps in shock
Chirp chirp?
2:30 PM
uh oh now it's all on me
@Slate oops.
hiding inside @Ollie's neutron star
Waffles are yummy and fill my tummy! :D
That'll be worse than facing Slate.
I'll just hop onto @Sha's head and disguise as an ordinary hat
oh believe me @bob you don't want to hop into my head. ;)
The horrors you'll see in there.....
2:33 PM
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Eh,More that if its time, its time. At this point, I think if singapore's on the list, multiple people will gimme a poke, so no need to worry
(could you please not abbreviate my name to "bob")
@bobble @bobble your wish is my Command!
Blame 7 years of short pinging
8? Don't remember when I started to use chat
@JourneymanGeek :)
hmm @SPA @Spe hope you're fine with those short forms of your name?
@ShWizWerMasVk2 is that a good short form?
What's the "k" doin'?
@bobb I mean to put the V before the 2, so a misclick.
2:43 PM
@bobble (obscure Gumball reference incoming) Would "Dr. Wrecker" be better?
Or maybe @cur for curious?
@Slate chirp chirp doesn't sound quite right for a blue jay :)
could y'all just use "bobble"? It's 6 characters, I'm used to responding to it, and it doesn't make my brain think you're calling for a boy named Bob or Bob b. etc.
@Ollie it does seem to work :)
@bobble Sorry, yeah.
2:46 PM
@curious I'm not honestly sure how to onomatopoeize it... got suggestions?
@Slate slate slate?
[slate noises]
@bobble eeeh I wanted to edit a comment yesterday, someone pinged a booble :|
bird noises
@JourneymanGeek you're a dog!
2:47 PM
@Ollie or a memory of one
@Slate squawk?
@Slate bellow bellow
@Slate "Eeeeep?"
@curious rest assured that wasn't the first time :)
Hmmm... all of these orbit the sound, I think. "Screech," maybe?
2:48 PM
"Blue Jays make a large variety of calls. The most often heard is a loud jeer, Also makes clear whistled notes and gurgling sounds."
Probably "jeer" is the orthinologist's term, but I don't exactly want to describe myself jeering at site members.
@Slate a mashed-up collection of meta noises?
@Slate TIL. I didn't even know it was an actual word though it did sound familiar
2:50 PM
Waffles baking, unicorns being ridden, Journeyman woofing, the beautiful sound of spam being nuked...
@curious Bubble Bobble! Awesome game.
Well gurgling at people isn't great either
"Hey Slate, there's a fire on the meta--" "[gurgles] Help me, I'm dying" "I'll... go ahead and ask someone else."
Named Bob and Bub.
I didn't play that much but I do recall!
2:53 PM
I played hundreds of hours.
The only game that might compete with the time spent is Champions of Krynn. :D
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 changed to "Bubby" and "Bobby" in the sequel
3:30 PM
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@Slate WhAT
@Slate You can't ask for help... you just have to do it.
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Unless some other Spe- name comes along, totally fine! :)
@Xnero It was a miscommunication about posting the announcement but the election is correct. Beta sites don't get chat rooms ("official" ones, anyway... users can always create one).
@Mithical ;)
@Catija I have to provide my own emergency care?? Alas.
3:37 PM
I keep reading "Slate" as "Slade" and all this talk about fires brought back memories about cut characters.
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 bubble bobble
oh wait, it is
4:07 PM
Bubble Bobble was a game I thought was cute, only ever got to play at friends' houses... and was never good at... but it still somehow has a very soft spot in my heart.
missing the two sequels.
those graphics are something
I do have seen simpler graphics being far more artistic that ultra hd games....
Especially if the ultra hd game is cyberpunk.
4:24 PM
"I do have seen"?
4:37 PM
@SPArcheon I had the PS1 CD package of Bubble Bobble + Rainbow Island
I played the Megadrive version of Rainbow Island, aka the bugged one.
luckily, that was just a friend copy and some time after I got to play a version that actually worked.
@MetaAndrewT. For reference, in case you wonder what I am talking about
"kneel before me, mortals!"
"does that mean you'll kneel too, or did you mean "in front of"?"
@JohnDvorak no onebox?
5:34 PM
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 :)
6:30 PM
@JohnDvorak I think it means that they want to be able to see you, this time.
Moonlight Madness is a video game for the ZX Spectrum home computer, published in 1986 by Bubble Bus Software. It is an arcade adventure game in which players control a boy scout. The object of the game is to unlock a safe within a mansion to obtain pills for the mansion's owner, a mad scientist, who has collapsed. This requires the player to traverse the mansion's rooms while avoiding hazards such as dangerous house servants and fatal falls. The game was developed by John F. Cain, who had previously created Booty, a popular budget game. Moonlight Madness was criticized for its price on release...
7:13 PM
Hey people! Is this a bad suggested edit: meta.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/79010?
@Mithical Can you please elaborate?
It changes only the markdown of the post itself without any visible changes. The style of markdown is a stylistic choice left up to the author; there's no need to make invisible changes to change that style.
@RandomPerson Takes some time to type :P
@Mithical sorry..
@Mithical I have moved the pics to imgur
Pretty sure the existing image host is the one used for the blog, so there's no real advantage in this case.
7:17 PM
@Mithical hmmm. OK.
I mean, good intent, but ultimately not an overall useful edit in this scenario.
what about the gaps in [with apologies to ] and [ Area 51]?
@Mithical Ok. Thanks for sharing your views :)
Again - no visible changes. As part of something that'd make substantial changes it'd be fine, but not enough to justify an edit on its own.
OK. Got it!
7:21 PM
Mine's been broken for quite a while as well...
You're also on the eastern part of the world right?
7:36 PM
Well, more east then europe ;)
@Luuklag My flair works fine.
Q: Can the author of a comment be added to the global inbox?

LuuklagWhen another user @-mentions you in a comment this comment gets added to your inbox. The same happens when someone writes a comment to on of your posts. Recently I knew that a certain user replied to me, but I wasn't exactly sure what their comment was, and to what post their comment was exactly....

@Xnero mine does to, but there are multiple users reporting it broken
pls send teh flagz ^
7:53 PM
Does this work?
She'll do.
8:13 PM
Good evening Kyle
Xnero's works ATM, but was broken a minute ago - everyone else on this webpage looked OK:
Now that we catch you in the wild here @KylePollard, mind giving this a kick to the person on bug duty today? meta.stackexchange.com/questions/368165/…
@Rob hmmm very strange
@Luuklag 👍
Thanks :)
I've been playing around with a VPN to try to repro, but this free VPN is quite limited in locations I can use. So I'm unable. But it was also reported on MSO, so it's not just Shree
8:32 PM
I'm leaning towards it not being a CDN issue since we're not serving those through the CDN 🤔
@KylePollard Strong argument :)
I don't know... I feel like there's still a chance. ;)
haha, well there's a decent chance I'm going to find my bed right now :)
I'll see what you guys come up with in the morning ;)
@Luuklag I can check with a VPN in the morning if necessary
@Mithical SE is wealthy enough to afford their own ;)
8:44 PM
Also true
9:13 PM
@KylePollard There's a bunch of image issues that are not related, but result in a missing image. Checking the User List and rolling through it the images load out of order, some take a 1/2 second to appear and infrequently some remain blank. I'm in North America.
@Rob do you have links to the users those images are for? I skimmed stackoverflow.com/users but couldn't find any broken images
Just a sec
@Rob So... what you're saying is that we shouldn't allow third-party avatars because it sometimes causes the avatars here to break? :D
9:30 PM
You might grab them when they are submitted, and i.stack.imgur them - I think there's a FR for that.
@KylePollard I'm sure I didn't find the exact same two, and had to rip through over forty pages to find these entirely different examples (so it's intermittent): meta.stackexchange.com/users/882193/huzaifa-abedeen meta.stackexchange.com/users/163265/a-cat
Huh, interesting. Is there a meta post for that issue already?
The second image is Imgur, and a bug (dot), so it *could be intentional: lh3.googleusercontent.com/a-/… i.stack.imgur.com/iW9WH.png?s=328&g=1 - the Google one is broken.
@KylePollard For what Cat said, not for what I said above, yes.
@Rob No chance that the google one is intentionally just a blank white image? 😅 Seems different to the other one you linked where it was giving a 400 bad request
That's hard to say, I'm not familiar enough with those embedded URLs to offer an expert comment.
(Neither am I 😅)
9:44 PM
@KylePollard Here is the correct account links for those two users: meta.stackexchange.com/users/1045827/don-flannagan meta.stackexchange.com/users/1039872/kharmageddon - The second is particularly helpful because the Profile describes what is in the avatar image.
@Rob Amazing, thanks Rob!
Looks like this to me:
I can repro on my end
@Rob Yeah, I don't think we can do that legally. We don't own the rights to the images, hence why we just echo it... I think.
9:47 PM
Mebe - I can hunt down that FR,in an hour.
I have asked about it because I know that the tracking pixel issue is a thing that a few people are concerned about... so having our own copy of the image was something I'd asked about internally and got some sort of response that indicated it wasn't possible to "take" the image ourselves and host it.
Q: Do not load Facebook-based avatars directly from the Facebook CDN

ThiefMasterUsers who register for their account via Facebook get their Facebook profile photo as their default avatar. However, the avatar is not copied to SE servers or Imgur, and thus the original URL is kept. This URL compromises the privacy of the user as it contains their Facebook user ID which everyon...

I assume you're talking about this one.
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