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Spevacus

00:16

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Been meaning to ask: Is this your anonymous brother? :)

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@Spevacus Not me

I don't suggest edits anonymously anymore, aside from testing out bugs

Spevacus

Interesting.

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

There was another anonymous editor "Ano2" who started right after I came out and registered

forest distrusts StackExchange

00:29

This depends on the filesystem. Was it formatted to NTFS again? Was it formatted to a Linux filesystem like ext4 or btrfs? — forest Feb 3 '18 at 3:16

Why is my comment showing my name as if I don't have an account?

forest distrusts StackExchange

01:01

Ah shit, I just replaced all my avatars on all my sites, even though I had custom ones.

Meant to do "save changes for this community" but did "save changes for all".

Any way to undo that?

I had custom avatars on Worldbuilding, Parenting, Retrocomputing, and Crypto.

OK, I managed to restore the one on Crypto.SE.

I also managed to restore it on Retrocomputing.SE, but I'm having trouble with the others.

Looks like the web archive has some of them. Good.

There, I think I fixed them all.

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

01:34

@forestdistrustsStackExchange The question was migrated and you didn't have an SU account at the time.

forest distrusts StackExchange

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Huh. Seems like SE could use a rework of how their database handles comments and associates them with accounts.

lol I can vote for my own comments on stackexchange.com/users/12417037/forest?tab=activity

Guess that's another issue caused by how SE's database handles comments!

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

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Q: Comment authors are not getting migrated

Background: when question is migrated from site A to site B and the author doesn't have account in site B, their name will appear "gray" until they log in to site B and associate the accounts, then the avatar show and all is good. No problems here, same for answers and their authors. Problem: if ...

forest distrusts StackExchange

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Well this particular issue was probably because of my account migration. None of those comments were on migrated questions.

Hm, looks like some of my bookmarks also didn't get migrated, but only on meta sites.

And my votes also weren't migrated. I'm able to double vote on worldbuilding.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/6397/…

One vote from network user 12417037, one from network user 8163816 (my current one).

Haha my list of posts on my current network account is broken too: stackexchange.com/users/activity/8163816/…

Meta Andrew T.

02:36

Hmm... I just saw "Companies to explore" on the sidebar, replacing the usual "Jobs for you"

I think this is new?

Rob

Probably as a result of Feedback from the Survey on SO.

Similar to:

rene

05:25

→ 16 messages moved to Chimney

Journeyman Geek

05:52

@MetaAndrewT. might be in line with the new direction for careers?

@forestdistrustsStackExchange don't think so... I just grabbed your gravatar and imgur ava options the last time

Meta Andrew T.

@JourneymanGeek I guess it's an improvement, since it's shorter than a list of jobs :p

Mithical

07:25

@MetaAndrewT. "we are to make"

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

07:39

@MetaAndrewT. yes, they're testing bunch of new titles, I see "Check out these companies".

@Spevacus maybe evil twin, think very few of @Sonic's edits were rejected.

More likely just some random spammer/troll trying their luck in that route.

@Rob hello

Rob

07:57

@Sha o/

Aibobot

hm

Work network blocks imgur

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

10:14

Daily riddle time! What's special about this egg?

!!/egg nog

SmokeDetector

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard No such command 'egg'.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

:(

Journeyman Geek

Its a potato

rene

that ^

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@JourneymanGeek nope

@rene ^

This is an actual chicken's egg

Tinkeringbell

10:20

archaeological find?

rene

Dino egg

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Tinkeringbell yes! You get 5 Shadow Coins.

@rene nope, chicken.

No coins for you! :D

Tinkeringbell

Now to hatch it and unleash another 1,5 years of lockdowns ;)

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Tinkeringbell sadly it's cracked, so all the contents leaked outside. :(

Tinkeringbell

Ah, classical archaeological trick, only photograph the good side.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

10:30

It was found in a "personal sewage" or whatever it's called.

Tinkeringbell

yeah, 'ancient pile of poop' sounds about right.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

yup :D

Journeyman Geek

hm.

I just tried to open up the inbox in the SE android app, to put in a FR for... stuff on a non official one and...

it crashed :(

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

It's like putting a corpse on a chair, and expecting it to perform actions... :D

The app is dead, corpse, lifeless.

Journeyman Geek

I mainly need it for notifications

so I was trying to write up a FR for that for another app for android that's active :D

stackapps.com/questions/8753/stack-android-application so far its very ok. Other than that all you can do is read and answer :D

but It seems to be in active development so... worth a shot

stackapps.com/questions/8839/crew-for-stack-full-native-client the apple option seems more robust :(

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

10:49

@JourneymanGeek meh, author is single person, not very active on SO, I really wouldn't build my hopes high. Most chances he'll vanish one day without a trace, leaving a dead app behind.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard possibly! But I don't see any particular alternatives at the moment

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

But yeah, can use it while it's working. (?)

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard there's ~4-5 dead ones so... I'm aware

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@JourneymanGeek yeah, sad.

Journeyman Geek

Well - with an official app, there's less need for it

And its very much a "poweruser" tool

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

11:07

Maybe with $1.8B they will have the resources to rebuild an official app...

Responsive website is a nice dream, but that's what it is: only a dream, years after they started this, it's not even close to be completed.

So mobile users get terrible user experience, and SO losing potentially good users because of that.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard this is doubtful

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Eh, its in progress. They have a half decade or so of tech debt to pay off

Tinkeringbell

11:23

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Yes and no I guess... It's annoying that doing basic community moderation tasks on mobile sucks. But I also think someone that's trying to start on mobile is already doomed for much different reasons than the ux :P

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard I think unless you're in an ultra restrictive environment, most of your SE, or even SO usage will be on a PC type device

mobile is very much for the 'hardcore' user :D

SPArcheon

11:40

Journeyman Geek

Pretty much

SPArcheon

I seem to remember that SO internal codename for the Android app is Bernie...

Journeyman Geek

Marvin

meta.stackexchange.com/search?q=marvin

SPArcheon

@JourneymanGeek Also explains a lot....

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

That was a big update...

> 23 files changed, 366 insertions(+), 29 deletions(-)

all this in two days work. ;)

@JourneymanGeek sure, nothing against them and personally it would take me much longer, lol.

@Tinkeringbell yeah, good point. :)

Journeyman Geek

11:54

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard in my case - its one of the main points of 'easy' contact for folks isn't working well

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@JourneymanGeek well, by "potentially good users" I mean those who might get very active and perform reviews, etc.

Journeyman Geek

Its not something I can leverage whatever little push I have on SE to get fixed, cause app is dead...

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard in theory everything but notifications is better off in the webapp,working well in the responsive design

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

12:12

@SPArcheon Hitchhiker's Guide?

Tinkeringbell

12:37

bbc.com/news/technology-57413224 < I want to know who changed their settings and did that :P

Spevacus

Remember when the phrase "broke the internet" was really popular? Where is it now?

DavidPostill

@Tinkeringbell 😂

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Tinkeringbell one gusss

Hint: NC

:D

Spevacus

lol

terdon

Shouldn't that be "Luke, I think we broke the internet"?

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

12:43

Exactly

terdon

:)

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

Pin the pun

Tinkeringbell

@Spevacus "Breaking the internet" wasn't ever a literal thing though, IIRC? I only recall it as a reference to posting something that caused a lot of stir?

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@JNat cross site low quality troll, posting very low quality contents most likely on purpose, to waste people's time. Won't be surprised if you'll find the IP address belongs to some other suspended troll. I might be wrong of course, but I'm afraid not in this case. Thanks for looking up!

Spevacus

@Tinkeringbell Yeah, but when the actual internet does break, it surprises me that nobody's using it!

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

12:49

@Spevacus some do.

Spevacus

ah, there it is

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

:)

But don't Google for "breaking the internet" if you're not alone. ;)

(some top images are semi NSFW)

Spevacus

<-- at work

...

opens incognito window

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Spevacus also at home, with kids looking beyond your shoulder.... :D

Spevacus

Don't have that problem yet ;)

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

12:51

"Mommy! Daddy looking on pretty girls!!"

:P

!!/tea jan

SmokeDetector

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard brews a cup of passionfruit tea for @jan

janw

13:30

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard :D Thanks!

Got caught lurking in the tavern again, when I really should be working...

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

13:50

@janw points towards Incognito mode

;)

janw

Yeah, but then I wouldn't have had a cup of passionfruit tea :) (although it is a bit too warm here for tea)

Feeds

14:10

Using low-code tools to iterate products faster

Ryan Donovan on June 09, 2021

Many developers are skeptical of using low-code tooling to build software. Buying software instead of building it has advantages, especially when your goal is to iterate faster.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@janw where are you? :)

janw

Northern Germany, near the baltic sea

In Lübeck, to be exact

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@janw Rostock is 21 degrees Celsius, not really hot...

@janw Don't see that on the map?

janw

:D It's like 25 degrees on the outside, but my room somehow is much warmer

Meta Andrew T.

@Feeds Using onebox to show snippet beautifully

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

14:16

@janw ohh of course, if it's closed and no AC

janw

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Yeah, they never mention it for some reason, although it is a nice city

It is between Kiel and Rostock

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@janw probably not big enough. ;)

So you work from home? @jan

oh my 217,198 people live there, not so small.

janw

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Suspected the same, but "Perleberg" is much smaller :D

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Yes, I'm in home office, mostly

But the university campus (where my office is) is only 300 meters away

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@janw since COVID, or did you work from home before?

@janw awesome!

janw

No, that is since COVID

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

14:20

@janw hmm.... so it means it's just where they have some monitoring stations, probably.

janw

Yes, and probably also due to the low density of major cities in that region

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@jan what you work at/for?

janw

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard I'm a PhD student doing IT security research, but I also do a lot of teaching

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

Anyway my place is hotter!

:-P

Kevin B

🚽

janw

14:22

:D Yeah, I can't compete with that :D

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@janw nice. @forest also working with security, probably quite a few more here. :)

You ever hacked a site? (white hat, hopefully... ;))

janw

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Of course :P (both)

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@janw lol, true. Also here, Dimona isn't a big city, there is much bigger places nearby with same weather, for some reason they chose the smaller place.

janw

What are you doing for a living?

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@KevinB is the climate better in there?

@janw programming, mainly web in recent years.

janw

14:26

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard But my research area is rather different, I do "classic" cybersecurity only for teaching and CTF competitions

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Nice

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@janw nice :)

@janw thanks!

janw

I also found myself doing lots of web development over the last year, when we suddenly had to do all teaching online :D

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@janw ouch. How was it like? You managed to do it? Used Stack Overflow? ;)

janw

We offer a practical cybersecurity course, where we show various attack techniques. So we needed to somehow automate that

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@jan what about kids? Got any? ;) (three children for me)

janw

14:29

Yeah, Stack Overflow was a major part in that :D

But I learned a lot in that time, definitely a good qualification for possible later employment

And it is really fun, since everything just works without massive manual intervention

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Ha, not yet ;) It is an option, but a bit early for me

Luuklag

@Tinkeringbell They should get a gold star

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@janw all good, lol. So you're in your 20's? I had my first when I was 31.

janw

@janw I built a system where the students solve their exercises, and get those graded automagically

Kevin B

🤔

janw

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Alright - so four years left for me!

Luuklag

14:33

Shadow, time for a new nick? Shadow The Interrogating Wizzard ;)

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@janw wow that's awesome!

@Luuklag Shadow the Lurkers Hunting Wizard

:-D

janw

:D

Luuklag

Blegh my internet is spotty lately

timing out all the time

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Luuklag if only here in chat it's not you

Traces of yesterday's attack, most likely.

Have to reload all the time and re-send.

janw

Everything working well here

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

14:37

@janw lucky

Luuklag

Nah its my connection entirely

other sites timeing out at random intervals as well

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Q: Is there any way to connect to WebSocket or access the socket response object in browser console?

I'm writing a script to send messages using browser console for a bot. Now, I need user name and timestamp of each message. I found that it is sent in webSockets. But the only global variable I can access in console is CHAT. But it doesn't contain all the latest data. So is there any way I can cr...

discussion javascript

should we reject this migration?

janw

Was migrated by a mod, as it looks

Tinkeringbell

@Luuklag Why? It's about SE chat

Luuklag

Shouldn't this just be stackapps?

or a general programming problem

Tinkeringbell

Hmm. Let's ask a StackApps mod! @rene ?

janw

14:40

Or adjust the title to make it SE-specific, it really looks like a general programming question right now

Glorfindel

Chat doesn't have an official API.

Tinkeringbell

Does your site want me to forward that once more?

Luuklag

Or the one that isn't grayed out @Glorfindel ;)

Tinkeringbell

Duh. Sorry, didn't think!

Luuklag

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard You were old btw ;)

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

14:46

@Luuklag well that's about the average age here for non-religious men. ;)

janw

Yeah, it's similar here

Meta Andrew T.

@Luuklag did some polishing, hopefully helps

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

Well, not a turd so it's fine.

rene

@Tinkeringbell I dupe hammered it already

I have ideas about what I want to be on-topic but I'll first want to find my rooting and then discuss a bit @Glorfindel and Tim to see if they agree.

Tinkeringbell

Okay, fine... :P

Luuklag

15:03

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard then I am young I guess. Just turned 30 last sunday. Next month my daughter turns 5.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Luuklag that's nice! And yeah, looks like you're lowering the average age, a bit. ;)

That said, my sister had a child when she was 20.

(not religious, and she did it on her own will, not accident or something like that ;))

Luuklag

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard not enough to compensate for my boss. He is 50, his oldest will turn 3 next month

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Luuklag oh wow, lol.

Also, I almost became daddy at 21, but thanks for The Day After pill, I didn't. :D

Luuklag

I always hate that, when I have to doubt if kids are with their parents or their grandparents

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard you might have liked it

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Luuklag nah... totally not ready, and girlfriend even less ready, she was only 18.

@Luuklag hmm? What do you mean?

Downside of being "old" parent?

Luuklag

15:11

Yeah. When I see kids at school and seeing theor parents makes me wonder if they are parents or grandparents

I always feel sad for those kids

Probably losing their parents before having children of their own.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Luuklag ohhh... lol. :D

@Luuklag well yes, that's a big downside.

Kevin B

...

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@KevinB ?.?

Meta Andrew T.

Heh, I'm in my 30s, and my child is... -6-8-year-old?

Luuklag

@MetaAndrewT. Haha lol

I can use that starting next year :)

JNat

15:33

@Spevacus gone

@JourneymanGeek gone

@Luuklag gone

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard don't see any relevant overlaps here. Please flag these for mod attention first, and they'll escalate it to CMs if there is that overlap ;)

Tinkeringbell

@MetaAndrewT. Ugh, you already have one too?! :P

Meta Andrew T.

errr... I think my attempt at humor was too cryptic... perhaps -"6-8 y.o" might be better >_<

Tinkeringbell

16:12

@MetaAndrewT. I still don't get it ? Either you have a 6-8 year old or not?

Meta Andrew T.

unfortunately, no :(

not even

rene

16:30

He is still practicing ...

Meta Andrew T.

:D

Spevacus

16:51

6-8 attempts at humor later...

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@JNat oh, OK

SPArcheon

17:21

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard yep

Luuklag

18:09

@JNat wait what, no backlog no more?

I just started liking what we had going on here

JNat

glad one of us enjoys me having a backlog ;P

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Luuklag

:)

This is going to be another late night manually entering questions into an online tool with a very very poor back-end :(

Wow, did the font just change again?

especially in the top bar

looks like it became a lot narrower for me (FF on MacOs)

Spevacus

18:28

Question titles don't seem as monumentally massive anymore on the main page.

Someone gimmie some rep so I can see if they changed the font on rep gains ;)

Tinkeringbell

Yeah I just refreshed on mobile and something seemed to change.. just don't quite see what yet :P

Spevacus

Honestly this looks pretty good. I like how things look atm.

Tinkeringbell

I don't hate it yet :P

But then, it's been okay again for quite a while. I think I only really struggled with the first change.

Spevacus

I feel the same way. The first change was pretty... Yikes.

Everything after that has been pretty decent.

Luuklag

@Spevacus That one was hardly noticeable for me

this makes everything a lot narrower, which I honestly quite dislike

Meta Andrew T.

18:53

@Luuklag hmm... doesn't look so on Chrome for Windows. I have 2 tabs from yesterday, and comparing the top bar with the current active tabs, it doesn't look like there are any differences...

Luuklag

Well there definetly were changes for me, I refreshed a tab, and text size changed, espercially vertical size.

But seeing fonts are now OS based, it might be just for Mac users

Luuklag

19:21

@JNat the fun starts again: cross site spammer: stackexchange.com/users/21878831/disco?tab=accounts

How was that not caught automatically ˆ

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

19:38

@Glorfindel Your NSFW script broke again...can you please investigate?

rene

How did it break? Does it only show SFW images?

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

20:02

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Q: Request for user script to remove mask from posts deleted as spam or offensive

As a contributor to Charcoal, I often find that the spam and offensive mask (i.e. "this post was deleted as spam or offensive and is therefore not shown, see the revision history") just gets in my way at times. Can I please get a user script that removes this mask, and makes the spam post show o...

discussion posts script-request 10k-tools

Ekadh Singh

Is there any easy way to calculate your moderator score without participating in an election?

rene

@EkadhSingh sede

Tinkeringbell

@EkadhSingh meta.stackexchange.com/a/252643/369802 ... found by using the search bar for 'calculate moderator score'.

rene

my search fu escaped me

Ekadh Singh

@Tinkeringbell thank you

Tinkeringbell

20:06

Like rene said, you can use SEDE, but it's simple enough to just do a tally by hand ... I'd spend longer on a SEDE query than just looking up the numbers and adding them up :P

@EkadhSingh It's time for you to learn how to use the search bar too ;) The candidate score means nothing if you can't do so :P

@rene First rule of SE search bar: Use nouns :P Second rule: Use less nouns or different ones if nothing turns up, because the search bar is kinda dumb :P

rene

@EkadhSingh maybe this one: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/1045608/…

Luuklag

You can't really get a mod score on MSE btw, not all badges are there. That makes for one awkward bunch of links in Shog's answer Tink listed

Tinkeringbell

Hmm. I'm still scoring 31 according to SEDE on MSE :P

Not too shabby then ;)

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

The max here on Meta is 37, since three badges can't be earned here

Two are for per-site meta participation, while one is for voting in a prior election

I have a perfect 37

Luuklag

I lack 4, so that would put me at 33

Tinkeringbell

20:11

I'm not sure, I think I lack at least 1 I have earned by now, which is the one for 500 flags.

Luuklag

@Tinkeringbell hah I beat you :)

Tinkeringbell

But mods don't get awarded that one :)

@Luuklag Did you now? I'm still the one with the diamond :P

I like the score, and hate it at the same time.

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

If you count posts here tagged meta, I meet the criteria for the two per-site meta badges as well, so the only one lacking is the one for the prior election, but the same issue applies to all users, as for any site holding its first election, no one else would have it

Tinkeringbell

Because while it does say something about how willing a user is to use the tools given to them, it does say nothing about whether or not the user keeps using the tools or is using them the right way after they got the badges :P

rene

I miss one \o/ . I'm disqualified to be a mod on MSE

hyper-neutrino

20:13

My candidate score still only 34/40 (on my site) :P

Tinkeringbell

Hey that weird... if I type in 'interpersonal', and then click IPS main site in SEDE, it says I'm about to query meta, and if I click meta, it says I'm about to query main?

Anyone that can repro that?

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@Tinkeringbell Getting confused with the logos in the site switcher?

Tinkeringbell

Probably, yeah.

Weird logic.

It seems to query the right sites ... 35/40 on IPS, that's disappointing.

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

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Q: Color of site icons on Stack Exchange Data Explorer is (not technically incorrect but) confusing

In the Stack Exchange Data Explorer, the icon color for the various sites seems* incorrect: Whenever I select a main site, the icon is greyed out, and when ever I select the corresponding meta site, the icon is colored. My initial instinct was to think that the colors of the main/meta sites follo...

bug status-completed data-explorer

rene

@Tinkeringbell I build that feature. It works ™

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

20:16

It got changed to "Switch to meta site" for that exact reason

Tinkeringbell

@rene It's confusing :P

PUT IT BACK!!! :P

Tempted to downvote that XD

rene

I dare you

Tinkeringbell

Don't you dare! :P

rene

I'll add you to the QA team on the next SEDE sprint

Tinkeringbell

Hmmm. It's probably good for me to do such stuff, but not next sprint ;) I've got some other stuff coming up that I'll be busy with :)

First on that list: Sleep ;)

Night!

Luuklag

20:19

that is so overrated

rene

Night!

Luuklag

Goodnight Tink

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

Standardized Testing: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

►

hyper-neutrino

can someone send me the raw markdown of the standard Lost Soul comment people use on MSE?

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

"One of my sixth grade students had a predicted score of 286.34. However, the highest a sixth grade student can earn is a 283. The student did earn a 283, incidentally. Despite the fact she earned a perfect score, she counted negatively towards my evaluation because she was three points below her predicted score."

hyper-neutrino

20:24

i tried loading it into my autocommenter manually but it's apparently too long by around 7 characters after removing the greeting, removing https://, etc, so clearly i'm doing something wrong

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@hyper-neutrino I usually use a shorter comment

hyper-neutrino

wait, there are probably magic links I can use to shorten my comment

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

stroopwafels

The one I normally use:

Welcome to Meta Stack Exchange! This site is for discussions, bug reports, and feature requests [*about* the Stack Exchange network of Q&A sites](/help/whats-meta); unfortunately, we have to mark this question as "off-topic" for this site. Please post your question on the [correct site](stackexchange.com/sites), and be sure to read that site's help guidelines to make sure your question is on-topic for that site.

Spevacus

>

"Hi " + author + ", welcome to Meta! I'm not sure which search brought you here but the problem you describe will not be answered on this specific site. To get an answer from users that have the expertise about the topic of your question you'll have to find and then re-post on the [proper site](https://stackexchange.com/sites). Check [How do I ask a good question](/help/how-to-ask) and [What is on topic](/help/on-topic) on the *target* site to make sure your post is in good shape. Your question is definitely off-topic on [Meta](/help/whats-meta) and is better deleted here."

hyper-neutrino

oh of course, relative links are a thing ಠ_ಠ

how did I not think of that lol. thanks.

Spevacus

20:26

:)

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

I also have another comment in case the question would be a good, high-quality fit for another site and it seems the author made a mistake posting it here:

This looks like a question intended to be asked on another site in the Stack Exchange network. This site, Meta Stack Exchange, [is intended for discussions, bug reports, and feature requests *about* the Stack Exchange network of Q&A sites](/help/whats-meta). If [another site on our network](//stackexchange.com/sites) exists on which this question would be on-topic, you may be able to ask your question there; unfortunately, we have to mark this as "off-topic" for this Meta site.

Sorry for the confusion.

Spevacus

I prefer your comment, honestly, Sonic. I might steal it. Would that be alright?

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

Sure, go right ahead

hyper-neutrino

Ah, yeah, that's a good one.

Luuklag

Cat out scouting for bugs

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