Tavern on the Meta

terdon

11:08 AM

@Magisch yes, but not on MSE. I haven't seen any new drama on MSE today.

Tinkeringbell

Don't jinx it.

But this weeks controversial blog post seems overdue, indeed.

terdon

They'll probably hire Sarah Huckabee Sanders as a CM or something equally insane.

2

Tinkeringbell

fingers crossed that'll take at least another two months. I could use a few drama free ones.

terdon

@Tinkeringbell Arrr, ye're in the wrong business for that, me matey.

John Dvorak

My prediction is that they'll just start shutting down sites for refusing to participate in elections

either that, or more firings

Tinkeringbell

11:13 AM

@terdon Just stall whatever is coming next. Blow up the big meteorite, make little ones... I don't care just... not now :P

terdon

@JohnDvorak Why are you expecting sites to refuse to participate in elections? That's a new one for me.

Journeyman Geek

@terdon more precisely - you're going to have a lack of candidates

terdon

Ah, that yes.

John Dvorak

That's what I meant, yes

terdon

Although I bet what will happen is that you'll have candidates, but nobody you'd actually want moderating...

Journeyman Geek

11:17 AM

@terdon and the folks who keep an eye on mods going rogue are...

kinda thin on the ground.

and I'm sure on some smaller sites there would be either protest votes or "hell no" candidates

Mithical

@terdon I've heard sites that really don't want appointments and will insist on an election if one of them gets an offer...

Andras Deak

@terdon that

Shadow9

@JourneymanGeek true

Journeyman Geek

@Mithical I think there's no more appointed mods

Andras Deak

don't know about smaller sites but SO has useless high-rep people galore, and there's always a large chunk of power-hungry folk

Mithical

11:22 AM

@JourneymanGeek The worry is that since there are so many sites that need mods and elections are a lot of work, it might be easier to simply appoint.

Tinkeringbell

@AndrasDeak If IPS is 'a smaller site'... we've already had one too ;)

Mithical

I kinda doubt it, though.

John Dvorak

They've already fired half of the staff, there's nobody left to appoint

Andras Deak

@Mithical plus with appointment you can skip that stupid democratic thing and just fix the diversity problem. Two birds with one stone.

Journeyman Geek

@Mithical the problem is you need to know people willing to be mods

Andras Deak

11:24 AM

@JourneymanGeek do you?

Journeyman Geek

@AndrasDeak I'm not a CM :D

Andras Deak

do they?

BlueSoul

@Tinkeringbell What do you have against poor Jinx?

Tinkeringbell

@BlueSoul Everything, right now. Maybe in months to come, I'll get over it.

Andras Deak

they can just look at standard moderator score plus diversity-related answers to the annual survey

Mithical

11:25 AM

@BlueSoul Rather poor book, I didn't enjoy it.

John Dvorak

Can they actually link the surveymonkey pings with their originators?

Journeyman Geek

@AndrasDeak the reason mods were appointed is cause it takes time for folks to get standard moderator scores....

Tinkeringbell

@AndrasDeak "Hi, we're asking you to do this not because we actually believe you can achieve something but you can be making up our numbers" isn't a very well accepted compliment outside the US ;)

BlueSoul

This Jinx

Shadow9

Happier news:

:-D

John Dvorak

11:27 AM

@Tinkeringbell Is it a well-accepted compliment in the US?

Journeyman Geek

@AndrasDeak I'd also point out the MSE mod team is pretty diverse, and none of us got picked for that

Tinkeringbell

@JohnDvorak Seems to be?

@JourneymanGeek You don't know that for sure, they didn't tell us why we were picked.

Andras Deak

@Tinkeringbell they don't have to lie like that. They can just say "psst, hey kid, wanna be a mod?"

@JourneymanGeek are you sure?

Mithical

6

Q: What should our position on the selection of new moderators be?

As any user who cares about the health of the Stack Exchange communities should know, there was a serious crisis in trust on this network. As a result, many moderators quit or went on strike; some even deleted their accounts. As far as I know, these moderators have not yet been replaced. In a co...

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell snort. Wait. I am the token indian guy?

Tinkeringbell

11:28 AM

@JourneymanGeek Probably.

Andras Deak

@JourneymanGeek I wouldn't put it beyond them

Journeyman Geek

and I get invited to parties?

Andras Deak

token Indian, token non-(cis-male), token dog

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek Probably.

John Dvorak

I think the CEO is token Indian?

Shadow9

11:29 AM

nah

Journeyman Geek

@AndrasDeak well - I don't think my sexuality is something that was ever discussed :D

Mithical

cis != sexuality

Andras Deak

@JourneymanGeek yes, that part is Tinkeringbell, and the dog is ChrisF

Shadow9

@Mithical not trivial at all

djsmiley2k TMW

oh lawd.

Shadow9

11:29 AM

law?

Tinkeringbell

@djsmiley2kTMW Time for wibbles.

/me charges

Time for crackers.

/me catch @djs

@Mithical Gender identity

Tinkeringbell

11:30 AM

crackers is good. I'm going to get a sandwich.. I think chocoladevlokken. Be back later, play nice ;)

Journeyman Geek

My bad

Shadow9

My bed

:P

!!/coffee djs

SmokeDetector

@Shadow9 brews a cup of Macchiato for @djs

Journeyman Geek

Uhm. No? :D

More seriously - I feel that folks have the right to be and express who they are

Gimby

What is happening, things are disappearing before my eyes

Shadow9

11:32 AM

lol

Andras Deak

@JourneymanGeek non sequitur?

Journeyman Geek

But unless I choose to talk about something, its no one's business :D

Shadow9

@Gimby at least your rep isn't blinking

Journeyman Geek

I assumed people self deleted :D

Shadow9

@JourneymanGeek they did

Gimby

11:33 AM

@Shadow9 Now that's an oddly specific thing to say

Can I assume that your rep is blinking?

Andras Deak

@JourneymanGeek I thought you were referring to something else with "right to be and express who they are". That's very different from "expressing world views involving who others are". Hence my suggestion to not do that.

Journeyman Geek

@AndrasDeak in the sense of "Who I am is no one's business" :D

John Dvorak

@Gimby It's a reference to an old un-rate-limit

Andras Deak

OK, perhaps some wires are crossed here

we can get back to crackers

Journeyman Geek

Yes

Shadow9

11:35 AM

It was real.

Journeyman Geek

@Shadow9 yay animated gif

Shadow9

haha

Andras Deak

I can also make things blink in a gif with 2 frames ;)

Shadow9

Luckily the moving part is small, so no big deal

Journeyman Geek

@AndrasDeak oh

I used to use them a lot in SU answers

Magisch

11:36 AM

@terdon I think most sites will have plenty of candidates

just not good ones

the next SO election will need to add 5 mods

Gimby

@JourneymanGeek I know that is SuperUser, but in my mind I always translate that to Stack Underflow for some reason.

John Dvorak

it won't be hard to find candidates on SO

Journeyman Geek

._.

Shadow9

@JohnDvorak agree, but on smaller sites it will be hard.

Journeyman Geek

@JohnDvorak I'd guess that's something people are betting on

Shadow9

11:37 AM

They suffer from lack of candidates even before this whole drama started.

Worst case, SE will lower the threshold.

Mithical

@Shadow9 Wow, the suggested edits count... that takes me back

Shadow9

@Mithical yeah many relics from the past in there

terdon

@JourneymanGeek No silly, you're the token Indian guy, Asian guy, Singaporean guy, and brown guy.

Journeyman Geek

that's a lot of tokens

Shadow9

Who said @Journeyman is brown? ;)

terdon

11:38 AM

You're a bit of a bargain, really.

Mithical

And ESL guy

Magisch

@Shadow9 they wont need to

BlueSoul

@Shadow9 less candidates -> lower standards -> lower entry-point -> a thousand of new candidates

terdon

@Shadow9 That may have been a bit of a geographical assumption on my part, fair enough.

Magisch

but it means that it's now easier then ever to get in on SO

Andras Deak

11:39 AM

also non-trivial dietary guy?

Journeyman Geek

@terdon but reasonably accurate

Shadow9

@BlueSoul yep

BlueSoul

21 hours ago, by BlueSoul

@Magisch you realize that as soon as the elections start we will get a new fresh generation of "oooohhhhhh, power" mods even if all the considerate, good, honest, [insert quality here] users on the network globally decided to not candidate ?

Andras Deak

@BlueSoul the best "asshole filter" ever

Magisch

I mean, the last couple of elections on SO already had candidates that openly stated they wanted to ban people for downvoting or closing too much

they'll run again, and they have a reasonable chance

Andras Deak

11:40 AM

@Magisch also ones who could barely find the "post nomination" button

Shadow9

@JourneymanGeek good, so I can tell my kids I talk with a brown guy.... they're always curious about such things, we have a cleaning guy from Ghana, and they love to try talking to him. :D

BlueSoul

You all remember when a very specific user (hint: a great "fan" of Shog) nominate themselves as a mod... and then made a very long rant when their nomination was cancelled because "suspended in the last year"?

Andras Deak

hehe, who could that be

Shadow9

@BlueSoul And?

BlueSoul

Well, rejoice......

Magisch

11:42 AM

he wasn't suspended in the last year was he

Andras Deak

is his grace period over?

Magisch

he'll run in every single election

Andras Deak

Nice!

Shadow9

He's suspended now on MSE

Andras Deak

I'll vote for him

he's perfect for what's to come

BlueSoul

11:42 AM

considering the lack of nominations... I can totally see the rule removed and them becoming a mod.

Mithical

I see a lot of SO accounts being self-deleted if that happens

Shadow9

@BlueSoul on SO? Yes, this actually can happen.

He has a valid account there, non trollish.

Andras Deak

@Mithical not if he gets there first :D

BlueSoul

To be fair, right now .... I wouldn't be surprised to see baba as a mod on Meta.

Mithical

Baba?

Andras Deak

11:44 AM

baba is you. You will be a mod.

Mithical

Support?

Gimby

Baba is not always you though. God I love that game.

Shadow9

Baba is a ghost.

@Mithical first appearance in Tavern:

Jan 9 '14 at 17:24, by Jan Dvorak

can we get this guy IP-banned? http://askubuntu.com/questions/403003/bengali-baba-ji-in-uk-india-91-8290936600

BlueSoul

@Mithical he is quite famous - he is the spammer that deserved a specific "black magic" detection

Mar 22 '16 at 17:36, by SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Black magic in answer: Why acoustic-guitar often use direct output instead of amp miking while on-stage? by John on music.stackexchange.com …

Mithical

aye, I remember now

Shadow9

11:46 AM

@Blue I vote for the Indian Hacker Team though.

His goals are bigger.

And he fought bravely.

Mithical

I vote for the vampire spammer I emailed for almost a full year

Shadow9

lol really? Why?!

Mithical

until he eventually stopped responding

Shadow9

(I mean why bother emailing a spammer ;))

Mithical

for fun

I led him on for quite a while. ;)

Shadow9

11:48 AM

lol

Magisch

@Mithical evan actually having a shot of winning would mean a GDPR delete request from me

A situation in which he has access to my PII is not happening

Shadow9

@Journeyman @Tink can one of you please assign @JonEricson as RO of his room? Thanks.

(Think it's trivial, dunno why he's not... :))

Gimby

Well... does he want to be?

Andras Deak

Shadow knows better ;)

Shadow9

@Gimby it's his room... and he ranted about not seeing a deleted message now that he has no diamond... so yeah. :)

Journeyman Geek

11:56 AM

@Shadow9 done

Probably didn't realise :D

Shadow9

@JourneymanGeek thanks, on behalf of Jon, myself, and Irene.

:P

Journeyman Geek

Goodnight Irene!

rene

@Shadow9 Jon and ranting ... I don't think those go together ...

Gimby

@Shadow9 Fair enough :)

Andras Deak

12:22 PM

@rene typo. Jon is renting the room from the company now.

rene

:D

Gimby

12:39 PM

That means we're basically squatting at his place right now. Cool.

Shadow9

@Gimby I don't squat. Last time was 15 years ago when I was in gym... and even then I didn't like it. :D

(15-20 years actually, not sure ;))

Andras Deak

since then it's been jack squat

Shadow9

glaring at Jack

Journeyman Geek

12:55 PM

When you stare into the Jack, the Jack stares back into you

JNat

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog gone

Andras Deak

D:

oh nevermind, the messages only look the same, but have a different message ID inside :)

Journeyman Geek

@AndrasDeak I just quietly delete them :D

(one of the companies we work with is entirely staffed by ninjas)

No one has EVER seen one of their engineers. Yet when we send them tickets, they get fixed... and no one tells us they were.

its a useful trait :D

Andras Deak

"no one tells us the ticket was fixed" doesn't sound too useful to me

Journeyman Geek

:D

It is not

but my company just sends us to check anyway

Tinkeringbell

1:12 PM

@JourneymanGeek Does your company have 'NCIDENTS' too, when things go wrong? Seriously, sometimes my company inbox feels like one of those Facebook groups where people give away things for free... neither is apparently frequented by people with spell checkers.

Shadow9

Did you mean "spell chekerz"? :D

BlueSoul

@Magisch a little late, but I was able to track down the koma I was remembering. You got it wrong, it is not you eating the monster bunnies... it is the opposite.

Gimby

@Shadow9 Teh spell checks.

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell .....

Whatsapp groups

Rob

1:33 PM

WhatsApp gropes

Shadow9

Wonder when there will be "WhoseUp" app.

Tinkeringbell

1:55 PM

@JourneymanGeek Those are usually where I can pick my friends, and pick people that know how to write :P

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell My social use of whatsapp is... non existant

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek I use it to keep in touch with friends and plan days out.

I do try to avoid family and work on whatsapp ;)

Journeyman Geek

Its the primary POC for work :D

Mithical

But... how do you have a family chat then, if you don't use WhatsApp for family?

@JourneymanGeek Pirates of the Caribbean?

Journeyman Geek

Point of Contact

Tinkeringbell

2:09 PM

@Mithical I have one for home, like mom/dad/brothers. The rest of the family isn't worth the effort.

Magisch

I use whatsapp only for inter-team communication at work

when someone is ill or needs to coordinate other work activities, we have a whatsapp group for that

Mithical

@Tinkeringbell You've got to have all the permutations... the immediate family, the extended family on one side, and the other, and the one without the parents, and the one with just the parents and you, etc...

Journeyman Geek

We have 1 and 2

and I ignore the extended family

Mithical

...we literally have a WhatsApp group called "Shopping list" that we send messages to when we need stuff...

Journeyman Geek

o0

Magisch

2:12 PM

my dad talks to me via discord

Mithical

o_o

Tinkeringbell

I don't want work to be able to reach me anytime they want, which is what you get if you give them your phone number for whatsapp... I don't have whatsapp on the work phone, nor am I planning on jumping through all the hoops of getting it.

Catija

@Mithical We use Trello for that.

Tinkeringbell

Family is... meh. Mom is on a group with them, she passes the relevant stuff along. I can do without :P

Brothers I mostly talk with over Discord or face to face.

Journeyman Geek

"I'm going out to get <thing>" "Could you get <3 other things which might not be at the same place?"

:D

Tinkeringbell

2:15 PM

I don't even have to say the first part here :P

Journeyman Geek

Also I'm my mom's preferred shopping helper ._.

Magisch

@Mithical I live on my own, pay my own bills, and we're both recluses. So I see him only every 2 weeks, and we talk about twice a week. Discord suffices for that

@Catija For ToDo's at work I use microsoft notes in a sort of crude approximation of a trello board :D

Gimby

@Mithical Not a bad idea.

Journeyman Geek

@Catija hmm. Is the trello thing a pre working for SE or due to it? :D

Catija

Post but Andy picked it so...

Magisch

2:20 PM

How're you holding up Catija?

Catija

Everything I do is a struggle. People ask a lot of hard questions and I have to ... divorce myself from their tone because I want to be able to keep open dialogue... but sometimes it makes me want to curl up and walk away.

That said, how I'm supposed to walk while curled up in a ball... don't ask me.

Shadow9

gives the ball called @Catija a hug

Really, no idea how you manage. Huge kudos.

Tinkeringbell

@Catija You roll. Just don't let people kick you in the wrong direction ;)

Catija

@Shadow9 Thanks. :)

@Tinkeringbell Oh... that makes sense!

Mithical

*offers cookie*

Tinkeringbell

2:27 PM

it wasn't supposed to... but okay.

Shadow9

And yeah, I'd love to see you kicked upwards, @Cat. :)

Tinkeringbell

@Mithical chocolate egg? :)

Shadow9

@Mith you let go of your privacy just like that? Cookie contains sensitive info, you know. ;)

Even CM can't read our cookies! :D

Mithical

@Shadow9 Cat has my grandmother's address, can't get much worse than that ;)

Shadow9

lol

Journeyman Geek

2:29 PM

lol

Shadow9

Swag event?

Mithical

Charcoal stickers

Shadow9

What event did she handle? I remember @animuson handling one, and @JNat a few.

Magisch

@Catija I hope it gets better for you. It's probably one of the most shit jobs in the industry right now to be dealing with a situation like this. Sorry you have to go through it :/

Shadow9

Well, one good thing is that it's unlikely to get much worse. :)

Unless of course my rant from earlier this week comes true and SE demands its CM team to moderate all the sites that have no mods now... :/

Journeyman Geek

2:33 PM

@Catija I'll try to keep the hard questions to those who deserve it :D

Rob

@Shadow9 Isn't it called Tinder?

Catija

@Shadow9 It was even before I got hired. :D

Shadow9

@Rob 5 points

@Catija ohh

Well no more swag so that's one stone less on your backs...

Is Grace Note still a CM?

Journeyman Geek

@Shadow9 Support team

Shadow9

hmm

Catija

2:37 PM

@Magisch There's a lot going on ... and I'm hopeful that things will improve. And communicating constructively and openly is a big part of what I can do. I know people are angry and there's been a frustrating silence. I'm doing what I can to break that and there are others doing it, too.

Shadow9

Just... be careful. Please?

These days looks like SE employees all walk on egg shells.

Egg shell reminds me of @M.A.R for some reason. @It's time for his daily ping. :D

Journeyman Geek

@Shadow9 the best we can do is support the good ones, and when someone does something insanely dumb, tell them :/

Shadow9

It didn't help in Shog's case. sob

Journeyman Geek

@Shadow9 It did not. Sometimes its not good enough, but its the least we can do.

Shadow9

That is... not wrong.

Journeyman Geek

2:44 PM

If I knew what was good enough I'd do it :D

(as with many things!)

Magisch

@Catija That was the charcoal stickers, right?

I still have one on the back of my phone, although art sent me mine directly

Catija

3:07 PM

@Magisch Yep. I sent the US ones.

BlueSoul

3:29 PM

can the main chat room for a site be frozen for inactivity?

Rob

Yes

BlueSoul

how?

Shadow9

Think only when there's another chat room which is active.

Rob

Automagically

Shadow9

There's no "main chat room" flag afaik

Tinkeringbell

3:30 PM

@Rob No? meta.stackexchange.com/a/318836/369802

Mithical

Yes. There needs to be one non-frozen chat room hosted on that site that is not a moved comment chain or created as an invitation.

But there is no one main room that gets special status.

BlueSoul

I suppose that is by design and can't be overridden in any way.

Shadow9

There was a case of main chat room frozen... arqade or ELL, if I'm not mistaken.

BlueSoul

... would kinda love that this grave was shut down like it deserves.

Digest Control Discussion

Shadow9

@BlueSoul start a new room, and that old room should get frozen.

Likely in a day, when the script runs.

Or maybe the new room should get some activity first.... really not sure. But pretty sure at some point it will work.

Rob

3:33 PM

@Tinkeringbell Yes! - Monero main chat, accessed by clicking on "Chat" from the site's menu: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/42720/monero

Shadow9

Again, it's not about main or not main.... if there's only one "ordinary" room it won't get auto frozen.

Rob

OK, so the one linked from the menu, the default for the site.

Tinkeringbell

@Rob Oh. That's weird...

BlueSoul

@Shadow9 and then "delete" the new one.... could work.

Rob

The chat accessed from the menu should "just work"™

Shadow9

3:37 PM

@BlueSoul you can't delete a chat room, only mod can.

And no, mod won't likely leave a site without any chat room.

The new room will simply become the new "main" room.

BlueSoul

@Shadow9 yep, but I can evilly put that in gallery mode.

Shadow9

Maybe... and maybe you won't be able to.

BlueSoul

@Shadow9 you greatly overestimate the SharePoint site & community .

Shadow9

But still, any user with 100 rep will be able to just create a new room. Not sure what you try to achieve?

BlueSoul

@Shadow9 symbolic gesture.

Shadow9

3:40 PM

Killing a site chat?

BlueSoul

a sort of "please shut us down" thing.

Shadow9

meh

BlueSoul

to be fair, I it was for me, the whole site should die.

Shadow9

Try taking away the core users to Codidact, as in Writers.SE case.

That's how you properly kill a site. ;)

Shutting off the option for low rep users to chat won't really achieve much.

BlueSoul

the site is already a rotting corpse mostly.

Cerbrus

3:44 PM

@Shadow9 Provided the alternative, like, exists

Rubiksmoose

@BlueSoul I mean, that seems like a pretty ineffective gesture IMO. Not like SE monitors closely the main chats or that it would cause any appreciable issues for them. If you want the site to die, why not just leave and kill it yourself? (Not saying that is what you should do of course)

BlueSoul

the only questions it gets either are unmoderated dupes, homework levels or abandoned unanswered questions

@Rubiksmoose Like I said, it was a symbolic rant. Not actually going to do anything.

Just venting out frustration about it

Rubiksmoose

@BlueSoul Gotcha gotcha.

Gimby

I don't really spot what "it" exactly is

BlueSoul

@Gimby SharePoint.SE

Rubiksmoose

3:47 PM

Not to mention BTW that any mod (from across the network) or employee can unfreeze a room with a few clicks.

Gimby

aaaaaah

Shadow9

Some would say the same on SO

BlueSoul

A zombie site in the network.

Shadow9

If a site provides even basic Q&A, it's not dead, even if the quality isn't great.

I'm sure Health.SE is in much worse condition, for example... likely many other small sites.

Gimby

No it's undead :)

BlueSoul

3:49 PM

@Shadow9 I will save this post link for the pleasure of showing it to you when we become another Yahoo Answer -_-'

Tinkeringbell

@BlueSoul Something can be alive and gross without being dead ;)

Shadow9

@BlueSoul well, Yahoo Answers! are still up and running. ;)

Rubiksmoose

@BlueSoul We have quite a way to fall before we get to that level as a network anyways. Not sure about individual sites though. The quality and moderation on YA is just really bad though.

@Shadow9 And, presumably, making some kind of money for Yahoo?

BlueSoul

@Tinkeringbell You... remember the knitting that they choose for the blog, right?

Define "dead".

Shadow9

@Rubiksmoose yes, people still use it... just for the most basic stuff.

John Dvorak

3:52 PM

Wait, Yahoo Answers is a real thing? 🤢

Shadow9

When you don't expect quality, you're fine with any crap you can find. :)

Rubiksmoose

Anybody listen to MBMBAM (My Brother My Brother and Me) podcast? They are an "advice" show (very funny) but they umm "highlight" some of YA's gems every episode.

Journeyman Geek

@Shadow9 it's... Not healthy?

Shadow9

lol

BlueSoul

@Shadow9 the fact that SharePoint devs usually are desperate enough to take any fragment of hope they can find is not really a justification :P

Rob

3:55 PM

@Tinkeringbell The Blobfish:

Tinkeringbell

I know about blobfish, you can stop the picture :P

Rob

i.stack.imgur.com/2uJj7.jpg .

BlueSoul

if you want to give someone fish-related nightmares... you can do better.

mention the Spider Crab.

Journeyman Geek

The monkfish is my go to nightmare fish

Rob

BlueSoul

4:03 PM

@JourneymanGeek not the moray eel?

Journeyman Geek

Nope

BlueSoul

The one that inspired alien second jaw...

(yep, in case you didn't know, the moray eel really has a secondary pharyngeal jaw like the xenomorph from alien..)

Das_Geek

@Rob To be fair to the blobfish, it only looks like that on the surface, without the insane pressure from its natural habitat 4,000 feet underwater

It'd be like putting a human in near-vacuum and saying "ew, look at how ugly and exploded this thing is"

Rob

Colossal Squid > 1000 lbs & 30 ft, with hooks on it's tentacles:

canon

@Rob "Damn, nature; you scary."

djsmiley2k TMW

4:15 PM

BARRACUDDDDDDAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Rob

Good song

canon

I used to confuse Barracuda with Immigrant Song

and was always disappointed that Barracuda was not the song I was looking for

Rubiksmoose

@canon huh, you know that isn't as silly as it might seem at first.

Gimby

@Rob Yeah I liked it until I heard it for for the thousandth time while playing GTA: San Andreas :)

Rob

They did grow long in the tooth after a half dozen years.

terdon

4:29 PM

@Rob that's one nasty manicure!

Andras Deak

cephalopedicure

Mithical

They look like tiny rhinos

Magisch

squid are highly intelligent

Rob

4:56 PM

Angler Fish. The pressure at the bottom of the Mariana Trench is 8 tons in².

πάντα ῥεῖ

They plop like popcorn when brought to the surface :D

Machavity

@Rob Don't go towards the light

Rob

terdon

@Rob Better reference video.

Well, for certain values of "better", anyway.

Rob

5:16 PM

That's bits and pieces of other people's videos, assembled by SomeGuy. Here's the BBC:

Deep Sea Creatures Exhibit Bioluminescence | Blue Planet | BBC Earth

►

terdon

@Rob Yes, he has a whole series of true facts videos, some of which are quite funny (youtube.com/watch?v=XrUM8m2rnP0). Admittedly, that one wasn't among the funniest. But he's not trying to be serious, although the facts he gives are actually true as far as I know.

πάντα ῥεῖ

Well, OK: deepseanews.com/2016/03/under-pressure

Seems to be a myth.

Rob

5:47 PM

Apparently it's the presence of a swim bladder (which not all undersea life have) that causes the problem (though no "exploding"). Source: youtu.be/3cqIvIbKvvM

πάντα ῥεῖ

Yeah, that sounds resonable.

Digest Control Discussion

Transcript for