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Journeyman Geek

00:40

or just cut the clutter.

puts hammer back on @M.A.R.'s foot

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

01:01

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Retracting request as the user has since edited the suggested edit to only change tags.

Stormblessed

04:48

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog hmm?

Looks like it's just alt text and tags

Oh

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

4 hours ago, by Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Retracting request as the user has since edited the suggested edit to only change tags.

Stormblessed

I see your second message

dang I'm bad at context :P

how are things going on Meta today?

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

At the time they suggested the edit originally (and when I posted the message), the suggestion contained a lot more text that the editor later posted as an answer.

They later edited their suggested edit to only make fairly smaller changes

Stormblessed

Anyone else think that question bans seem a bit draconian?

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

delv-pls one-more-delete-vote-needed 2k+ meta.stackexchange.com/review/low-quality-posts/66898 (@Stormblessed if you'd please)

rene

04:56

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog already voted on ...

→ 41 messages moved to Chimney

I see Shog9 updated his favorites ;)

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@Stormblessed Well, considering that users are warned in advance and usually hit shorter rate limits before being outright banned, I wouldn't exactly think that.

I do think that Q-banned users who come back much later and exceed their 6-month allotment should be given the chance to submit a "draft" to SE, and if it's approved as high-quality, they should be allowed to post it.

I imagine the case where someone's a student who posts low-quality questions and gets banned, then many years later has two genuine questions they want to ask.

Stormblessed

I do think that it's really really weird that the system automatically does it, and supposedly even staff can't undo it

Journeyman Geek

@Stormblessed actually its really sensible

Some people are just... nuts

and harass mods (and presumably staff) over stuff like deletions

and if I recall you get warnings before you get qbanned (and some mods send mod messages if they notice)

rene

05:24

@JourneymanGeek yes, those are shown in the mod-timeline on a post.

rene

05:44

I'm still wondering if being elected as designated survivor really means you are the least likable person to have around at a party.

Journeyman Geek

06:16

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog or ask one, get upvotes then get to ask another...

Or show they can contribute answers

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek It's not that simple

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog actually it is in a lot of ways

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

5

A: What does "positively received" mean in the conditions for lifting a question ban?

As far as I can tell, there is no "special" consideration for that one question. The system will simply consider that one question along with one's other questions, and check to see if the user overall no longer meets the ban criteria. There was a case a while back where a user had been banned d...

Meta Andrew T.

Yay! Internet is back! @ Office

rene

So you can now process the backlog of missed cat gifs on Facebook?

Tinkeringbell

06:39

@rene Duh :P Though I thought in this case it was more like 'he's not coming to our party anyways, so he might as well be designated survivor'

Morning! Looking forward to the hat parade?

rene

I'll be in a train during the parade .... but I wasn't looking forward to it either way. You will be watching the livestream?

Tinkeringbell

Probably just the pictures, afterwards ;)

Journeyman Geek

Its not winterbash yet

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog uhm

Tinkeringbell

Though putting on the livestream might not be such a bad idea... I'll be wearing the noise cancelling anyways.

Journeyman Geek

Less mechanics more people

rene

06:42

I used to work at an office at the Lange Voorhout. We basically had front-row seats then.

Tinkeringbell

@rene Nice! Or not? Probably not so fun getting to the office on those days, or getting home.

@JourneymanGeek This is better than winterbash :P

rene

@Tinkeringbell exactly. So I preferred to stay at the customer which were mostly Ministries so it didn't help much .....

Tinkeringbell

:/

And that's why I won't work for the government XD

time for coffee :D

rene

@Tinkeringbell you should have told me 20 years ago ...

Tinkeringbell

@rene Eh. 20 years ago I was busy going through basisschool :P

rene

07:09

That should have been enough education to judge Government ...

Tinkeringbell

True... I did volunteer at the local municipality archives though, when I was done with university. That was kinda fun :)

volunteering isn't working for, right? :P

rene

I accept that ...

M.A.R.

07:31

@JourneymanGeek Sure. Where do you think I urinate when no one is around?

Whoops did I say that out loud

Mithrandir

> "[U]nhappy customers are, to a large extent, inevitable...not that we should stop trying to make them happy, but maybe don’t freak out when we can’t achieve it[.]"

That seems like an important lesson to me.

Tinkeringbell

@Mithrandir Everyone should work retail or service desk once in their life, just to learn that one ;)

M.A.R.

@Tinkeringbell Doing that right now

My take is a bit different.

Tinkeringbell

@M.A.R. Oh?

Explain?

:D

M.A.R.

Well, if I onebox it it'd be huge

chat.stackexchange.com/search?q=people+are+idiots&room=95

-15

Q: How to remove question ban after six months, auto-unblock didn't work after six months

My Stack Overflow account got question banned around January this year. After six months, I could ask questions for a few days. If I recall correctly, I haven't asked any question since, but somehow my account got blocked again. Can someone please help me get unbanned?

Hmm, well, my question is almost done

Tinkeringbell

07:46

@M.A.R. Ah. That's still kinda similar to Mith's quote :P Accept it, then don't freak out when they do :P

@M.A.R. What about the answer? :)

Journeyman Geek

@M.A.R. the toilet

I don't want to know where you urinate when everyone is around

rene

If he hasn't been potty trained maybe we do want to know? So we can clean-up afterwards?

M.A.R.

@Tinkeringbell Doing the final self-proofreading

Tinkeringbell

@M.A.R. Sounds good ;)

M.A.R.

@rene Do not make me get all territorial on you

Meta Andrew T.

08:32

@Tinkeringbell early Winter Bash!?

oh, already discussed.... yeah, blame my internet...

rene

sure

Tinkeringbell

@MetaAndrewT. Hahaha no, Prinsjesdag in The Netherlands. It has a tradition that was started by someone in the late 70s: Females wear hats, and the media treats it like some catwalk hat show ;)

Meta Andrew T.

Ooh, sounds interesting

and loud?

Tinkeringbell

It's at least always fun to watch :) No, not loud at all.

I like the really crazy hats, even though etiquette experts say to not wear those, there's always someone wearing a very crazy creation just to make some sort of statement :P

Tinkeringbell

09:57

Ahhh. the good old 'excessively long' autoflag. :P

Meta Andrew T.

It's very long, so it's useful...

M.A.R.

11:52

> We need to clarify something.

The royal we is killing us. Help us.

Tinkeringbell

Lets clarify something?

So, to clarify:

M.A.R.

We think it sounds a bit more blunt, since it is an expression we commonly use when we do mean serious stuff.

Tinkeringbell

Ah. Well, if his royal highness wants to be blunt, he's come to the right place!

M.A.R.

"We need to" sounds less so because it's commonly used by authors to clarify their position

As opposed to a "listen punk"

Tinkeringbell

I'd like to clarify something?

M.A.R.

11:57

@Tinkeringbell It was originally "I" but it felt a bit too off to depict myself as a representative of the community

And "I" does that more than "we"

Tinkeringbell

I'll look, where's the sentence?

M.A.R.

In Universal trash can? I mean that's how I originally wrote it but I corrected it in the draft.

Tinkeringbell

So... why am I helping you polish trash? :P

M.A.R.

Just imagine me, @rene and @Sha speaking creepily in unison.

All your meta post are belong to us.

Journeyman Geek

@M.A.R. Its something you get used to after a while

Tinkeringbell

12:02

Sure, but if the idea is trashed, it's kinda hard to figure out why I'm spending energy on polishing it ;)

Journeyman Geek

We do it a fair bit, in our position as a moderator

Tinkeringbell

And yeah, you get used to it. Although in that case, 'we' is clearly the moderator team, and not trying to capture an entire online community ;)

Journeyman Geek

in this case though and this is very much a SE thing - we probably means you've chosen to speak for the community

hands @M.A.R. an excessively heavy talking stick

M.A.R.

I suppose I could pose as having DID for Shyamalan's next movie. This is my main character, Kevin Bread Crumbs.

My other personalities are a car's headlights, a bench in the park, a wolverine, and Russell Crowe.

Journeyman Geek

Also, that's a perfect example of something that needs to be said, and fits badly into a strict Q&A format ;p

M.A.R.

12:04

@JourneymanGeek Ever heard of self-fulfilling prophecy

Journeyman Geek

lol

Journeyman Geek

13:04

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Meta Andrew T.

14:01

@M.A.R. just had your meat post as my dinner's reading material... I'm full now

also, you should become a mod by naturalization...

Journeyman Geek

@M.A.R. hm, from the MSE perspective, I wonder if 1.4 might also want to point out being civil to the folks who work here.

2.0 - AKA "Even mods sometimes get overwrought and need to go for a walk, or to bed"

Meta Andrew T.

That said, I think there's a 30 -20 something MSE post few ~~hours~~ minutes before that...

Journeyman Geek

2.4 - might be handy to talk about what's needed to actually get a closure overturned as a counter point?

-25

but core mechanics are "how do I post on MSE and not get smacked up like a pinyata in a baseball bat testing facility"

but ugh. That's one of those things which kinda is hard to see objectively

for us its a core mechanic

for a new user, it can be discouraging - but we can't really alter that without breaking a lot of things.

Meta Andrew T.

It's also... discouraging to be censored by downvotes on Quora and Reddit..... or isn't it?

Journeyman Geek

quora has downvotes?

Magisch

14:12

reddit is a trash fire but not for that reason

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch well, reddit is essentially a functional anarchy ;p

and pretty much oldschool BBs

hm

I talk a lot about mechanics vs soft skills.

(and erf, I'm not sure about either on reddit ._.)

Meta Andrew T.

@JourneymanGeek Surprisingly, yes

John Dvorak

What's the rightvote do?

Magisch

who would forget the sidewaysvote

I vote to direction

Meta Andrew T.

that's... a hard question

Journeyman Geek

14:15

hm

I DEMAND THE LEFTVOTE!

SINISTER PEOPLE UNITE!

John Dvorak

oh boy, are we getting into politics here?

Meta Andrew T.

right to vote, or left to vote?

Magisch

I vote to close as directionally confused

Tinkeringbell

I hope that doesn't create circular dependencies? :P

Journeyman Geek

@JohnDvorak naw, the oppression of lefties

handedness not wingedness

John Dvorak

14:24

Well then, count me in

Meta Andrew T.

And on another topic... there are some... bug reports on MSE regarding old browser?

Journeyman Geek

uhm

IE 11? 😈

Meta Andrew T.

Chromium 47

Journeyman Geek

whooooaaaaa

link?

John Dvorak

@JourneymanGeek That's not a web browser

Journeyman Geek

14:30

@JohnDvorak uhm. Its something you use to download one, yes

John Dvorak

but so is curl ;)

... or netcat

Journeyman Geek

@JohnDvorak would need something to download curl with on windows...

Meta Andrew T.

@JourneymanGeek well, it's not a private info, so I guess I could link this question (and other OP's questions)

John Dvorak

Ruby can be installed offline, y'know ;-)

Journeyman Geek

uhm

That might be a bit messier

he's actually on opera?

Meta Andrew T.

14:32

He's comparing with Opera which works bydesign

Otherwise, this question then

Journeyman Geek

@JohnDvorak uhm, PS has fake curl....

So I guess so

John Dvorak

Oh nice!

Hey, it even gives you a prompt if you call it without arguments.

fbueckert

My aggravated journey through getting my solar project finished seems to be complete.

knocks on wood

Tinkeringbell

Woohoo!

Get out the fireworks and party streamers and hats and snacks and beer?

fbueckert

Even got my web monitoring kinda sorta working.

Journeyman Geek

14:42

oh man

fbueckert

Had to have words with the CEO by the end of it; they laid off my project manager, and got awful insistent on me signing the completion paperwork before they were actually complete.

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell get out the solar death rays?

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek For extra energy production? I wonder... :P

Journeyman Geek

and gardening

fbueckert

That makes me think of the microwave power plants from Simcity 2000.

The ones that launched satellites into space to collect solar power, and beam it back to it's collector.

Meta Andrew T.

14:45

Oh man, Simcity 2000!

fbueckert

And occasionally missed.

Leaving a line of destruction across your city.

Feeds

Joel Spolsky and Clive Thompson discuss the past, present, and future of coding

Ben Popper on September 17, 2019

Meta Andrew T.

@Feeds looks professional enough (the onebox)

Tinkeringbell

@fbueckert I never got that far into the game, I think...

fbueckert

@Tinkeringbell Yeah, I always made a complete flat map, except for a raised hill in the corner for hydro dams. Easy mode+

I abused the crap out of the simpler mechanics in the original Simcity, though.

Catija

14:51

@MetaAndrewT. no bullet points.

Meta Andrew T.

I was amazed and enjoying the driving mode of Simcity 2K

Tinkeringbell

@fbueckert I think we had an English version of the game at a time where I didn't speak English, so ... it was just building stuff and failing XD

fbueckert

@Tinkeringbell Yeah, it wasn't the greatest of UIs, either.

I love all the charts and graphs and information overload. But it's hard to pick out anything specific out of all of it.

Meta Andrew T.

3 letters: RCI

fbueckert

Not understanding the language, too, makes it even harder.

Tinkeringbell

14:55

Yep! Same thing for zoo and rollercoaster tycoon, though zoo tycoon went a lot better once we got a Dutch version and I could actually follow the tutorials.

fbueckert

Now my city builder games are the Anno series.

Simpler city mechanics, but much more complicated resource and logistic components.

Tinkeringbell

15:22

Only game I still play these days is Stardew Valley. Though I may get the new Animal Crossing when it is released

rene

16:05

train ....

it does wobble a bit too much

Tinkeringbell

@rene where are you? Near Harderwijk everything seems fine

rene

I'm now in Utrecht CS, coming from Zwolle over Amersfoort.

Tinkeringbell

Ah. Intercity? Those wobble a lot especially just before Utrecht...

I'm going the other way ;)

If I had known, I'd have waved :P

rene

Yeah, the IC to R'dam

I'll wave now ....

Tinkeringbell

Hahaha I can't see it now, but you might cheer up some random kid watching trains ;)

rene

16:16

lol

Tinkeringbell

If I'm lucky, I'm going to get rain when walking home... Sky is looking pretty dark here...

rene

Do you have to walk far / long?

Tinkeringbell

Not far but I don't walk fast so 15-20 minutes

rene

Oh, that is considerable. I'm only 8 minutes away, 6 if I "run"

Tinkeringbell

I'm going to have similar distance once I moved. Should be able to get it down under 5 by then ;) my brother is taller and walks faster, and he can walk to the station in 10 minutes....

rene

16:21

Nice, when are you moving out? Did you buy a property? I knew you were looking for something.

Tinkeringbell

No date on the moving yet, I'm in the process of buying a yet to be build apartment.

rene

Oh, exiting.

Tinkeringbell

Got lucky, they drew lots and I got a nice one, all downstairs, one floor, and a bit of garden. Really nice spot too, closer to the station, but not that much farther from the shopping centre, and on the edge of the forest :)

rene

Cool!

Tinkeringbell

@rene Mostly a lot of paperwork so far... But last week I had my first appointment to pick out a kitchen and that was pretty neat... Though even more keuzestress ;)

@rene Yeah, I'm content :)

rene

16:24

Ha!

Tinkeringbell

Gotta run though, or I'll miss my station!

rene

Cya!

Run or you end-up in Zwolle ;)

410

The proposed Meta Penal Code is thorough but lacks specifics on punishment.

Defendant found guilty under section 3.5 item 2. Punishment: comment deleted.

Tinkeringbell

16:49

@410 Yeah, I'm guessing we now need a discussion on how to keep meta alive ;) things to do that'll earn you candy and dog treats ;)

M.A.R.

17:54

KILL META 🔥

There are people who downvoted. Downvoter no understand, obviously.

Am I taking it personally enough.

rene

yes, I would post that if I were you. Just to make a point.

Or dot.

Or full stop.

M.A.R.

PERIOD.

There's even an ion for it. Periodate.

user271002

no oxidants on meta please

Tinkeringbell

But on a really serious note... what do we need to keep meta alive? Just fewer new users that mess up their posts?

410

About the only reason I'd post on meta is if I'm mad as hell and not gonna take it anymore.

Which hasn't really been the case recently.

M.A.R.

18:07

@Tinkeringbell A healthy amount of drama is always necessary IMHO, I just think we got too much of it recently

Tinkeringbell

@410 That's not really about keeping alive though, we have plenty of posts :P

Meta Andrew T.

We need Fridays.

Tinkeringbell

Fridays?

Meta Andrew T.

In Iceland, particularly.

Tinkeringbell

@M.A.R. Well, I'm more thinking about... we have now a whole list of things that kill meta... but I doubt any new user is going to read that before they mess up. So, what can we do to help them, besides linking them to that post and having them understand what they did wrong? Perhaps that'll help keep meta more alive?

@MetaAndrewT. Hmmm. I'm looking for something a bit more serious than Fridays, I guess :/

And certainly a lot more serious than Iceland.

410

18:10

A soothing MIDI track playing on /ask page.

Is MIDI still a thing?

rene

@410 the mad part or the not gonna take it part?

M.A.R.

@Tinkeringbell The few that do matter.

410

Still mad. But I'm going to take all of it. ALL.

rene

@410 I do think so. Maybe it got a JSON representation to make it easier

M.A.R.

And, especially, for things like this, you have somewhere to link people to so you won't spend your mental stamina arguing it over and over again with them

If people on meta.SO did that more often, everyone would have been happier.

Buuut "guidance is so dispersed on meta", which is a previous post of mine.

Tinkeringbell

18:13

@M.A.R. Sure, sure... but... Just dropping people a link doesn't give them the feeling they're understood, or that anyone is willing to help... it's more like throwing them the rulebook and saying 'here's all the things we've decided you can't do, now figure out what you can do that isn't this' :/

410

I'm looking forward to comments "see WKM:5.2.3"

M.A.R.

This stuff is scattered so much so except the few famous ones that sometimes don't help because they're too old and don't say what you want to say people don't remember to link them first.

Tinkeringbell

@410 If there's going to be a lot of those, that post in this form might not stand a very good chance :/

M.A.R.

@Tinkeringbell It . . . doesn't sound as bad as it seems in practice.

410

What Meta Stack Exchange is Not.

Meta Andrew T.

18:14

whatkillsme.ta/

M.A.R.

You're picturing someone yelling for help and everyone else ignoring them right now

That's not what happens

Meta Andrew T.

@410 (actually I'm also thinking that post and its SO couterpart...)

Tinkeringbell

@M.A.R. Perhaps ;) ... I'm just wondering if we can help more, in some way, with what to do instead of what to not do...

M.A.R.

I haven't done anything special, except maybe update guidance a bit. Questions on SO go obsolete but it hasn't occurred to people that meta guidance goes obsolete too.

Tinkeringbell

We'll see how this turns out, but I can understand if people see your post this way too, and thus downvote it.

M.A.R.

18:16

I frankly don't care about the downvotes, as long as I have something to link people to now.

Its score is +10 so it's a VERY definitive guide now.

QC stamp

Meta Andrew T.

souns like Will, or Won't. Choose either one.

M.A.R.

I wish people did look at it that way, as something to link to.

Linking people to go somewhere else is always overdone somewhere and not done enough everywhere else.

And I'm pretty sure I'd end up in the not done enough team.

410

@MetaAndrewT. surprised there isn't .meta tld yet

M.A.R.

The other side of the coin is the bajillionth hammerdupe of something from 2010 that does not represent community stance at the moment.

Tinkeringbell

@M.A.R. Fingers crossed it's not only going to be people linking to that post ...

410

18:19

The .center TLD is managed by a registry called Donuts.

M.A.R.

OMG did I go viral among demons too.

410

Meta just needs better air conditioning.

Too hot and humid on some days.

Tinkeringbell

Hmmm.

So, why is everyone hanging out on meta? What makes this stuff fun/rewarding for y'all?

Shog9

The money for nothin'

4

Tinkeringbell

And now I'd like to hear from the people that don't get paid :P

M.A.R.

18:31

@Tinkeringbell I raised the bar too high for myself. I realized I'm not that hot in chemistry, and I'm sure as heck not a linguist. But THANKFULLY this stuff is so frigging complicated that there is always people to explain something to.

That, and trying to persuade people is fun.

Meta Andrew T.

I read meta for lunch/dinner's reading material

M.A.R.

Hey that goes without saying

Meta Andrew T.

ORLY

410

A procrastination tool for me.

I get a lot not done with it.

M.A.R.

Whenever I've got a snack and no good movie to watch, I just go to meta.SO and read some rants. True story.

@410 This guy gets it

Tinkeringbell

18:33

@410 That one kinda goes without saying too though... :P

rene

Just for the drama. The rest is a bonus.

M.A.R.

I got some real righteous stuff done before I got sick on metas

But right now since things seem to be more rigid shaping culture seems harder.

Tinkeringbell

@M.A.R. Hmm... interesting. So what do you think needs to loosen up so culture can be more easily shaped?

Meta Andrew T.

... loosen the tension?

Tinkeringbell

Okay. So yoga or pilates classes? Which one do you prefer? :P

Any ideas on how to loosen tension?

410

18:40

Laxatives.

M.A.R.

@Tinkeringbell It probably needs something fundamental, so it wouldn't just require meta regulars, but devs as well.

Tinkeringbell

Cool, but what are we going to ask the devs to do then?

M.A.R.

The system would have to start sending non-generic signals that reflect the good parts of the meta stance.

Tinkeringbell

@410 I wouldn't combine those with yoga.

M.A.R.

Making names look bigger or smaller on close votes is probably not the best place for development to pay attention to

Meta regs need to stop being so grumpy too, there's some work to be done there ;)

Tinkeringbell

18:43

Maybe, maybe not. It might make a pretty big difference to some, as they often feel hesitant to put their name on that 5 person list.

M.A.R.

Honestly a simple break can fix a lot of things for them (or end up disengaging them entirely)

Tinkeringbell

For the ones of us that aren't afraid of anything, it's probably not that useful though ;)

@M.A.R. So... each month, suspend the top 10 contributors for a week? XD

M.A.R.

👍

Start with rene

Tinkeringbell

I'll put in a feature request ;)

M.A.R.

What I'm saying is, a bigger focus on behavior is probably a better idea.

Shog9

18:44

I think Tinkeringbell is pretty cool. Eh eats sprinkle sandwiches and doesn't afraid of anything

Meta Andrew T.

o_o

M.A.R.

The animosity against curators is real, of course. But we'd still be grumpy with names hidden if we go in that direction.

If the team that comes up with popups and descriptions listens to the floating head, for example, it might end up attracting users anyway.

Tinkeringbell

@Shog9 F*** caries! :P

Shog9

I asked Jeff to hide names 10 years ago. About time.

M.A.R.

I guess if it's easy enough, sure. (And it is)

Tinkeringbell

18:47

@M.A.R. Hah. So the talking head asked to have names hidden ;) Where's your argument now? :P

Shog9

Reopen voters don't get full billing on the question page. Why not make closing equal?

Folks who care can always check the revision history or timeline

M.A.R.

But if we pick the 100 newest meta posts excluding those from, er, "side" topics, the arguments that keep being made over and over on meta can be summed up real nice.

If new user guidance adapted from those . . .

Meta Andrew T.

Well, shout me down, but I'll buy a feature that would lessen the psychological impact of being downvoted for new users, even though I know the rationalization is biased...

M.A.R.

. . . are you implying you actually read What Kills Meta.

Who does that.

I wrote it in a kinda Orwellian fashion though. Maybe. Should have included a main character with a psychological dilemma.

Meta Andrew T.

I dunno, I did support an FR to display "!" instead of (heavily) negative score on OP's post, and perhaps some other FRs that I already forgot

Tinkeringbell

18:57

"!"? That's... a new one. But I think as long as people see their reputation decrease (and especially if you're lower rep, you're going to notice the difference between 101 and 99)... Even though you might not get a notification, every downvote is going to hurt a bit :/

Even some people that have plenty of points worry about losing some, sometimes.

So it's not just the score, I think.

M.A.R.

@Tinkeringbell It was on meta.SO. Pretty sound FR.

Tinkeringbell

@M.A.R. Ah. That explains why I never saw it :P

M.A.R.

I had a habit of posting fun meta.SO posts here

I dunno where that went. I probably started wasting time more appropriately.

Meta Andrew T.

225

Q: Display a message to the OP the first time they receive a downvote

Here's the feature request: When a new user receives a downvote on a question they asked for the first time, the system should display a message, only visible to that user, similar to the existing messaging to a question asker when the question receives a close vote. The text should explain the ...

feature-request downvotes welcoming

410

Seriously, Meta needs a soundtrack. The sound of rain, or of the sea, or ...

And the comments should be in cyan Comic Sans.

Meta Andrew T.

19:06

Well, that would probably kill meta... in another way...

Tinkeringbell

SE already played out the 90s theme joke :P

410

Twice. This one was from 2014

2014: a sidebar image invites you to mine coins by clicking
2019: a sidebar image mines coins with your CPU

Or does something close to it

Tinkeringbell

20:02

My apologies. I got a bit distracted ;) Where were we?

Mithrandir

You? The Netherlands.

Tinkeringbell

Ah yeah... looks like it. Dark, wet and autumn-like.

Mithrandir

It hasn't rained here yet, but it was looking very gloomy yesterday. Today, not a cloud in sight.

Tinkeringbell

Ah, sounds nice :)

Mithrandir

It would be, if I wasn't coming down with a cold in any case... which reminds me, I should hop in the shower and get to sleep.

Tinkeringbell

20:05

Go go go!

Sleep well :)

Mithrandir

Thanks, although unlikely... I tend to sleep worse when I'm sick :/

Tinkeringbell

Doesn't everyone, until being sick makes them so tired all they can do is sleep? :)

Mithrandir

Or at least lie prone wishing they were sleeping.

Tinkeringbell

True... go take a hot shower, then prop yourself up with an extra pillow... get some essential oil (mint or lavender always helps me breathe :) ) and at least rest ;)

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