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Bart

2:08 PM

Surely everything is serverless now

Tinkeringbell

Well, not everything. I'm still working on a server ;)

Mithrandir

@Bart Well, if there are no servers, then nobody's waiting, which means that I'm just waiting.

Journeyman Geek

@Bart ironically? Not until we move everything to the blockchain D:

xdtTransform

Hi!

Mithrandir

\o

Tinkeringbell

2:10 PM

Hey!

Bart

Heyo

xdtTransform

Was reading meta.stackexchange.com/questions/329763/… . because i just had an animated ads. and reported it here scifi.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/12691/…. Do i have to report it on the se meta question too.?

Mithrandir

(My advice is to enable an adblocker by this point.)

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Shadow The Dragon Wizard

@xdtTransform sure, just don't expect any response

Journeyman Geek

@xdtTransform I would suggest it

Just so that there's a record of this

@Mithrandir well, yeah, that too

Bart

2:12 PM

Wow that's bad. (the ad)

Journeyman Geek

but that's about the third thing I have on a new build ;p

@ShadowTheDragonWizard no obvious response, maybe

but I'm sure there's probably folks who'd go "GUYS WHAT ARE WE DOING" internally

Tinkeringbell

@Bart Yeah, it really makes me wonder what company hires another company to promote their company like that... Unless they just let their secretary put something together XD

Journeyman Geek

(still need some polish but I've been trying to get it down to installing chocolatey, running a one liner and setting up logins...)

@Tinkeringbell if you think about it, its a cascading level of fail... ;p

from the 'artist' to whoever thought wiggling it was a good idea, to the online ad company that approved it....

And well, if its on a SE property, its going to reflect on them

I'm sure eventually someone will get a hot singles ad, get offended and ....

xdtTransform

Yep that's bad. Can wait to have fake support and adult browser game on SO.

@JourneymanGeek, not enought twitter i guess : scifi.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/12674/…

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek Oh sure... this doesn't look good at all. But considering that there's probably a company that made an add for a company, then distributed that through another company ... there's at least three levels of fail before we can blame SE ;)

Journeyman Geek

2:16 PM

@xdtTransform honestly? That might be a good thing if there's enough/right sorts of outrage

@Tinkeringbell its on their property.

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek There's already a singles ad linked in the comments on the test announcement. Funny, that one also was scifi.

Journeyman Geek

If I have a giant neon cheesecake art billboard...

Its going to reflect on me too

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek So? My brother had friends over and one of them puked in the neighbours backyard... the puke was on their property, but they're still blaming my brother and his friends XD

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell but if they let it fester its going to reflect on them

or whatever old rotting puke does

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek Oh sure... But that's the whole point of the test, isn't it? To gather as many of these inappropriate ads and see how bad things are?

You need to know where the puke is before you can start cleaning.

Journeyman Geek

2:19 PM

@Tinkeringbell exactly

and for the folks who pick the ad providers to work out which ones are absolute rubbish

xdtTransform

@Tinkeringbell there was click bate on Cooking se too. cooking.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/3563/…

Journeyman Geek

(I suspect most of em...)

Tinkeringbell

@xdtTransform Just report them all. Anything you see that isn't very appropriate, just report it. The experiment will be running until the end of the year according to the post, so... don't expect any quick replies but any input will likely be appreciated.

Journeyman Geek

@xdtTransform also lots of calm, carefully collected examples of bad ads is probably going to have more use than lots of people ranting about stuff ;p

So its probably the best we can do as users, especially if you don't run adblock

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

@xdtTransform interesting enough, most animated ads on sci-fi aren't using a gif but... CSS transformations to cause the animations.

Probably SE told them "Don't use animated gif" so they found a way around.

Which is horrible.

Journeyman Geek

2:30 PM

@ShadowTheDragonWizard "Don't use the door" uses the window "don't use the window" crashes through the wall

xdtTransform

If we have to disable ad block and spam F5 on every site just to list bad ads I feels like we need badge and reputation for it.

Journeyman Geek

lol

@xdtTransform well, you're fighting the good fight

but probably good enough to link the ones you find

without looking deeper

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

@JourneymanGeek exactly! lol

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowTheDragonWizard but its an industry designed to get attention

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

@xdtTransform nah, to be honest SE usually "fix" it quickly

But then it happens again.

Journeyman Geek

2:34 PM

,_, We have little LED screens with ads on the ground floor now

and they annoy me hugely

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

:(

Meta Andrew T.

Looks like there's an algorithm that if we try to hunt the ads, then they won't appear...

xdtTransform

A staff answer. scifi.meta.stackexchange.com/a/12692/107904 . I guess I will spend my night hunting. And see when they give up.

Break is over, back to work.

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

@xdtTransform who gives up?

The answer is meaningless.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowTheDragonWizard everything is meaningless

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

2:40 PM

It will happen again, in a different site, at some point.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowTheDragonWizard and people need to keep reporting those things

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

Why?

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowTheDragonWizard simply because there's really 3 alternatives.

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

SE let their ad provider choose what ads to put. That's the end of it, nothing we can do

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowTheDragonWizard SE can pick ad providers though

and this sort of feedback could be useful

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

2:41 PM

There's no good ad provider.

They're all bad, and they'll all show bad ads.

Journeyman Geek

and the alternative is just taking a big dose of *uckitall and constantly complaining there's no point to complaining

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

yeah

Journeyman Geek

which is not particularly constructive

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

Well I just accept the fact SE now has evil ads, and move on. :)

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowTheDragonWizard They're testing, and people have been asked to report. Now imagine there are a lot of reports... that's a result.

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

2:42 PM

Nothing new... many sites I visit have evil ads, we can't run away from it.

Tinkeringbell

And perhaps they can contact the ad provider and say 'if you want to keep working for us, no more of this and that'.

Or perhaps they can't, and drop ads entirely.

Journeyman Geek

also, these responses are coming from the ad team

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

@Tinkeringbell and be shut down

Journeyman Geek

yanno, the folks who actually run these things

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

@JourneymanGeek so he'll now tell the ad provider "don't use this ad please", the ad provider will come with other animated ad.

Not with transforms, but with still pics replaced by JS timer.

Journeyman Geek

2:45 PM

@ShadowTheDragonWizard until the point where the rules are strict enough that there's no wiggleroom

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowTheDragonWizard Perhaps. So... do you want to use SE with an adblocker, or not at all? :P

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

@JourneymanGeek hehe, we'll see. :)

Journeyman Geek

So as long as SE responds, there's still a point in complaining about specific ads

Tinkeringbell

And that was a pretty quick response too :)

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

I admire this, though they can't buy my trust again, when it comes to ads.

Journeyman Geek

2:48 PM

Which is fine

SE's been cool with adblock for... ever

Meta Andrew T.

^ true

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

^^ true

Journeyman Geek

and I will be yelling at SE if they start breaking adblockers ;p

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

(never used adblock though)

Meta Andrew T.

v false

Journeyman Geek

2:50 PM

Potatos are fruits

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

true or false ^

Journeyman Geek

They're tubers

Mithrandir

false

xdtTransform

@ShadowTheDragonWizard , You can't break my wings. I have been noticed by a staff. It was usefull and the problem will be address. I'm so pleased, I will refresh like a mad man in order to make them taste their own medicine. They will see those ads when responding to my question.

M.A.R.

@xdtTransform I think a better question is "do you have wings?"

Yup, all ads on sci-fi site are animated for me. Netflix, Vimeo, and some local. Eww. — Shadow Wizard 38 mins ago

Ow that sucks.

This ads discussion is kinda pointless though

Meta Andrew T.

3:07 PM

The most* effective ads is to use your profile picture to advertise.
*citation needed

... jinx, I got an animated ads on Anime.SE :/

M.A.R.

@JourneymanGeek well elves were legendary and look what become of them. Agent Smith was their leader.

Meta Andrew T.

and it reloads another ads every 30 seconds :O

M.A.R.

I don't need an ad blocker. \o/

Meta Andrew T.

and it self-destructed because it failed to load the last ads...

At this point, seeing a static Google AdMob's ads is a peaceful thing compared to those weird, animated ads...

Feeds

Lots of people called their ships unsinkable before the Titanic. Voicing your hubris doesn't make failure more likely, just more memorable.

Meta Andrew T.

3:34 PM

@Feeds daily earthquake is still scarier than a rare big meteor impact...

Tinkeringbell

@M.A.R. See, yet another reason to not look up to The Netherlands ;)

John Dvorak

@MetaAndrewT. I'm using uBlock and what's all this fuss about?

Meta Andrew T.

oh, I'm just.. uhh... pen-testing ads on SE...

John Dvorak

3:49 PM

One does not pen-test a Google ad. A Google ad pen-tests you.

410

4:23 PM

@Feeds Much too long, yes.

user271002

4:42 PM

@Feeds We had a small impact last week.

user271002

Tinkeringbell

Oh nice! You actually saw it or just stole a news photo?

user271002

This guy accidentally took a video:

user271002

DAS EVENT - Jetzt Samstag/Sonntag

►

user271002

People here first thought it was a signal flare.

Tinkeringbell

4:49 PM

Oh, awesome! I saw the news articles, but no images :(

user271002

A traffic camera in the Netherlands got it, too. (very small in the background)

user271002

AMS event #4385-2019

►

Tinkeringbell

Yeah, apparently many people here saw it.

user271002

Yeah: fireballs.imo.net/members/imo_view/event/2019/4385

M.A.R.

5:42 PM

@Loong DAS EVENT

I want it as a movie. RIGHT NOW.

M.A.R.

8:05 PM

Hey @Sha

I'm looking for a good post to reference that tells people they can start over after a suspension.

John Dvorak

"I can, but what for?"

user271002

@M.A.R. stackoverflow.blog/2009/04/06/a-day-in-the-penalty-box ?

M.A.R.

@Loong Of course! +1

Nah.

Whatever. I don't think I'll find anything better.

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

8:37 PM

@M.A.R. hmm... @Sonic posted something nice about coming back after a long forced break. Guess it can be also applied to suspensions?

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@ShadowTheDragonWizard Where?

The post about anonymous edits?

M.A.R.

@ShadowTheDragonWizard I want a kitkat now.

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

Don't think that post is relevant here.

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog yeah

M.A.R.

9:06 PM

Eeesh, I think I have to switch to royal we for the FAQ

Journeyman Geek

9:49 PM

@M.A.R. Its on the starwall ;p

M.A.R.

Sep 2 at 2:43, by Meta Andrew T.

oh, right, Septembrrrrr...

Oh, right, thank you

410

10:15 PM

UMZ (#8) is down to single digit score (9 = 17 - 8). Needs moar horse_ebooks quotes.

> Everything started great in the initial stages of planting our new garden. twitter.com/Horse_ebooks/status/352594086135468032

M.A.R.

Nah, apparently just needs moat transcript

Journeyman Geek

11:28 PM

@M.A.R. the moat has a transcript?

We have a moat?

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

11:54 PM

edit-reject-pls meta.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/66897

(same user posted the same text as an answer, which IMO it should be)

@JourneymanGeek No, some users have mor moats

downvote-pls needs another downvote to allow 20k+ users to VTD: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/333463/…

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