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Rob

12:51 AM

Even amongst the Aves size matters:

Sword Billed Hummingbird.

ɪBᴜɢ

3:23 AM

@Tinkeringbell Did you create some script to continuously unprotect the featured post?

Ah, bad. The API doesn't offer protection/unprotection.

and myself

6:29 AM

@ɪBᴜɢ Shadow the Wizard did with a bare JS function

yesterday, by Shadow Wizard

window.setInterval(function() {
    $.post("https://meta.stackexchange.com/question/unprotect", { "id": "321399", "fkey": $("#fkey").val() });
}, 1000*60*5);

and myself

6:46 AM

It's interesting to observed there were at least 3 very new users stumbled upon the Tavern :)

and left silently because they haven't had enough rep to talk on the chat room...

Journeyman Geek

lol

they should try and get 20 rep. Chat is fun

rene

7:48 AM

del-pls 20k+ discussion Does not seek input or discussion Best way to post new PRNG to crypto site‭ - PeterButler‭ 2019-01-05 01:22:02Z

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

8:41 AM

Spam sitting there for 10 minutes?

Wake up Charcoal

ɪBᴜɢ

8:53 AM

chat is fun lol

Shadow Wizard

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ week end

rene

del-pls 20k+ discussion off-topic What would you say to answer this technical interview question?‭ - Mistapopo‭ 2019-01-05 07:48:04Z

Shadow Wizard

@JNat thanks! You saw the other pings?

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@ShadowWizard Oh, lemme rephrase: "Stop having fun IRL Charcoal"

Shadow Wizard

Not everyone are having fun IRL ;)

ɪBᴜɢ

9:08 AM

I'm having s/un/inals/ IRL :)

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Suninals? Sounds refreshing. I just prefer tea though

ɪBᴜɢ

I prefer $(cat /dev/urandom) better :)

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

I'd be careful talking about kitties in this room

The cat content has been mostly replaced by dog content

ɪBᴜɢ

So $(cat /dev/dog) or something similar?

rene

9:27 AM

> it's Friday afternoon in the US, and my guess is most folks asking PHP questions right now are feeling a bit desperate and exhausted.

It is not the time of day that matters ...

Tinkeringbell

@ɪBᴜɢ Not a script. See the reply from andmyself ;) Just running a bit of code in the console.

rene

I have this sentence here SE staff ... is not hired ... , nor are they hired and I have the feeling "they" is not correct (as I assume staff is singular) or "is" is not correct but I can't figure out how to better word that sentence. Does it need fixing and if yes, how?

ɪBᴜɢ

@rene SE staffs are not hired

I'm fine with SE staff are since "staff" can be a collective noun.

rene

Okay

Shadow Wizard

@ɪBᴜɢ urinals?! :D

ɪBᴜɢ

9:39 AM

google.com/search?q=english+collective+nouns

pick a few results

Shadow Wizard

@rene better now

rene

sd f

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

9:57 AM

32

Q: Does "staff" take a plural verb?

Which one of these two statements is correct? Our staff do ... Our staff does ... And is staffs ever correct?

@rene TL;DR; it's a classic case of "there is/are milk and cheese on the table". Regardless of the regional uses, if you're treating staff as different people, i.e. different items, then use an "are". If it's a group of people, it should be an "is".

ɪBᴜɢ

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ isn't that just what I said? (collective noun)

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Well that's a label applied to thingies with a groupish meaning, so . . . no? I dunno

I don't think all collective nouns can be treated like that

I'm far away from my linguistic peak. Right now I can only talk about fungi reproduction.

rene

10:12 AM

anyway, it is helpful. Thanks to all for chiming in.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@rene Yes but did you know that certain zygospores can survive being in space for 40000 years?

Let's see plants do that.

Back to the book

rene

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ it doesn't matter. They still wouldn't have reached another solor system by that time. They are still doomed just as we all are ...

John Dvorak

12:08 PM

This is new: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/321735/…

Tinkeringbell

@JohnDvorak Gone ;)

Bart

1:47 PM

Indian Hacker Team is moving around I see :D

rene

:D

Journeyman Geek

Or are hungry

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

6

A: Area 51 - Where's Stack Overflow?

Since I can't find a duplicate: Area 51 was created after the trilogy (Stack Overflow, Super User and Server Fault) split. Also, this site, Meta Stack Exchange existed back then as Meta Stack Overflow. The first site to launch from Area 51 was Web Applications (it's at the bottom of this page wi...

@Glorfindel name 5 Mexican foods I can have for lunch

@Bart Damn spores

Glorfindel

2:30 PM

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ no time for lunch today, had other business

rene

2:45 PM

@Glorfindel that is not a bad time. And the area is pleasant as well (no need to pass it quick)

Glorfindel

Yeah, it's really nice there. Almost as nice as the woods where I live (Ermelo) :)

Tinkeringbell

Nice. That's less time than we just spent on grocery shopping :P

and myself

so Dutchy...

Tinkeringbell

@andmyself Try 'Mom needed an extra bike to carry stuff as we didn't have a car, and then spent 75% of the two hours we were away outside the store chatting with people'.

I'm afraid I'll never warm up again.

and myself

3:00 PM

:D

Rob

Anne Daunted

4:45 PM

Question: Is this answer spam?

John Dvorak

Not after AJ's edit

Poster's only other contribution is an unclear tumbleweed on SO

Anne Daunted

My question is about the first revision, that's why I linked to it.

John Dvorak

My answer is, "not sure, but it doesn't matter now anyways"

You could ask in Charcoal, hoping for more eyeballs

and myself

Well, if a mod decided to salvage it, then...

Anne Daunted

I'm asking because I wonder if I should flag a pst like this as spam, when I see it

I'm not asking about what happened later, although spam should not be edited.

John Dvorak

4:57 PM

A mod flag is always safe

@AnneDaunted I'd amend that - spam shouldn't be edited unless you can turn it into a valid post without changing the poster's intent

and myself

Unless the answer is not plagiarized, then you have 2 problems...

John Dvorak

If a post is plagiarized but not otherwise spam, it's mod flag territory

Anne Daunted

@JohnDvorak It's even safer to not flag at all

rene

5:13 PM

Worst that can happen is a declined flag ...

Rob

5:59 PM

^ Worst is a valid flag that is lost to a subsequent edit, with the reward for your efforts being declined (or not helpful), then seeing if you can protest that it was valid when the help was offered. More than double the work, waiting leaves an uncertain amount of time to wait.

Anne Daunted

6:16 PM

True. Btw., the post in question has been deleted.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@rene Oh but my halpful flagz ratio :(

and myself

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ better than my accept ratio!

John Dvorak

6:44 PM

Accept ra... I feel old now.

Actually, the worst that can happen is that you get suspended for casting invalid flags. Caused an uproar a couple of weeks ago.

Glorfindel

@ShadowWizard FYI I've set up a similar script which runs from a browser in my server, so it does not depend on me keeping a browser window open in my laptop. It's a user script that will be ready for the next contest as well.

and myself

7:00 PM

wondering if reducing the timeout to 5 seconds is acceptable...

Tinkeringbell

@Glorfindel Does that mean I can close my browser? :P

Glorfindel

@Tinkeringbell you'll still need it for your other duties :)

Tinkeringbell

@Glorfindel Hahaha ;) I have to windows open, I'm going to close the one that has the console running then ;)

mim

7:20 PM

Hi! can some one un-protect this threat please?
https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/321399/announcing-our-amazing-2018-stuff-a-way/321766#321766

I am a new user in Meta and because of my post it got protected, so other users can't post to it anymore, I appreciate your help :+1:
https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/321399/announcing-our-amazing-2018-stuff-a-way/321766#321766

Already done ;)

Thanks :)

wHoaAa... projection...

Mithrandir

@andmyself ?

and myself

7:27 PM

I don't know what I was spouting though... it's already 2am here, but it's kind of fish-eye lens

Mithrandir

I don't remember, but it might've been set on Wide, which will fisheye, yes.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Enjoyable activity of the day: Snatching comment flags from under posts in HNQ

Mithrandir

Doesn't everybody do that...? ;)

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Not when they should be studying genetics

I hate Saturdays

and myself

._.

Mithrandir

7:30 PM

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ *quietly disputes that claim*

and myself

genetics is one of my fave Bio subject...

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Most of biology is my favorite biology subject

But currently I'm studying bullshit for an exam, not the real stuff, so.

and myself

I guess it might work with compost...

Rob

9:02 PM

@andmyself @Mithrandir - Extreme wide angle shots makes the top pull towards the center.

Kevin

9:28 PM

Hello, MSE chat, I'm a new user and just answered the "stuff-a-away" question. It's now protected. Can someone please un-protect it?

Tinkeringbell

@Kevin Hi Kevin! It's already unprotected again. @Glorfindel that script you wrote is working like a charm ;)

Kevin

@Tinkeringbell Thank you!

Glorfindel

@Tinkeringbell thanks. Let's run it for day or so and then edit the notice at the bottom of the Meta post.

Tinkeringbell

Sounds good to me :)

Rob

9:44 PM

Prior to writing on Meta to request a 'tag split' I thought I'd ask here. On Stack Exchange main we have https://stackexchange.com/questions?tab=realtime which streams all the questions in real-time. But when I search on Meta for the tag [realtime] it gets changed to [real-time] which is then

synonymized to the tag live-refresh which is for something entirely different.

and myself

@Rob Apparently there's stackexchange.com

though the tag excerpt and wiki might need to be updated to include more features from there (HNQ, Real-time, Today's Featured Site, Filtered Questions, All Sites, etc.)

Rob

@andmyself - That is closer but it's for 'my-sites' filter - mine is: https://stackexchange.com/filters/329781/my-sites - so that's not the correct tag, but thanks for the suggestion.

and myself

there's also stackexchange-filter ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Rob

The 'filter features' are too numerous and the feed too specific to overlap them IMO - but that's why we are discussing this.

Those two tags you mentioned might be synonymous, though I don't know that's a good idea. My request to split "realtime" ought not to re-synonimize it with either of those. IMO.

Ah ha - It has been mis-synonimized - it ought to be synonymous with https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/realtime-questions.

and myself

10:01 PM

I mean, the stackexchange.com is not only about filtered questions, thus the excerpt should be updated... but good to know you found the tag you want

Rob

Do you agree that is 100% exact?

I can suggest tag wiki edits but have no button to alter synonyms.

and myself

Not sure about synonymizing...

But the wiki could be updated...

Rob

@Tinkeringbell - Do you agree with my request to alter the synonymization of the tag "realtime" with the tag "live-refresh" and instead make "realtime" a synonym of the tag "realtime-questions" ? -- See also brief discussion above.

brb

Tinkeringbell

10:20 PM

I'm... not entirely sure. realtime can be used pretty reasonably for both, I guess. So I'm hoping someone put some thought into this before and there's some historical reason (questions tagged realtime were mostly about live-refresh?) they're synonymized this way... I think this is perhaps definitely one that goes in a question on main

Rob

OK, if I'm the only one whom thinks so I'll simply use the "realtime-questions" tag when searching instead of "realtime" - Thanks. I won't write a request on Meta.

The synonymization could be a result of the 'Mad Retagger' (not mentioning any names). :)

Tinkeringbell

@Rob If it helps... I don't think so ;) And I don't really know if 'you're the only one whom thinks so'... I just think differently, that's why it's probably useful to ask more people ;)

Rob

Maybe some more people will come to chat in the hours to come and shed some light, maybe it could be revisited. I have my answer. Thank you both.

To me it seems like a mis-synonimization.

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