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11:01 AM
I had half a bun with melted cheese. (not my ordinary breakfast though :))
 
11:35 AM
@ShadowWizard regular bread, regular cheese :P
 
Regular boring reply!
:D
flags as "too regular" :P
 
Not every moderator is interesting :P
I also had regular bread and regular cheese for lunch XD
 
lol
Regular Parrot
I had hummus for lunch
 
Regular Red Parrot :P
@ShadowWizard I never tried hummus. I'm not really fond of chickpeas anyways
 
shocked stare
 
11:42 AM
 
@Henders Heh. My upbringing wasn't really multicultural :P
@ShadowWizard I see a green one in there too. Booo!
 
@Tinkeringbell you don't know what you miss... and real Hummus has other stuff in it, so the taste is far from the taste of raw chickpeas. :)
@Tinkeringbell that's her co-worker. :D
@Henders so you did? ;)
We lost Smokey!
!!/alive?
 
I love hummus o.o
@ShadowWizard Yeah, having a few issues with it atm.
 
Uhoh.. it has issues.
@ShadowWizard Hmm. Okay. :P
 
11:48 AM
@Henders huh? What issues can one have with Hummus? :(
 
@ShadowWizard Not liking chickpeas? :P
 
@Shree huh. Wonder when SE itself will host SD and/or MS.
@Tinkeringbell that's kind of... fatal. :P
I did have Hummus causing a nasty indigestion once, years ago... but it did not deter me. Mistakes happen after all. And one time out of hundreds is really not so bad. :)
 
@ShadowWizard You just said it wasn't, that it wouldn't taste like chickpea
 
@Tinkeringbell but if one doesn't like the chickpea itself, not the taste, it can't be helped. ;)
 
@ShadowWizard Haha, no with smokey
 
11:52 AM
@ShadowWizard Heh. Okay :P
 
@Henders ohh lol :D
When you last had Hummus? @Henders
 
Actually quite a while ago, I need to have some more soon..
 
What kind of Hummus you buy?
If in a box from supermarket... it's not the real thing. ;)
 
Not the real thing then :P
 
@ShadowWizard Probably never
the CM that was charcoal's liaison was laid off
 
11:54 AM
Occasionally I'll make it but it's not as nice when I do it ;P
 
@Magisch :(
@Henders too bad!
That's the real thing ^
(not my pic, but taken in the same place I was today, part of review in a newspaper)
 
@ShadowWizard To be honest... that doesn't look like something I really want to try :P
 
Looks great :o
 
@Tinkeringbell like I said before... you don't know what you miss. :D
@Henders if you'll come over to visit I'll take you there. ;)
 
11:58 AM
I'll bear that in mind ;P
 
@Magisch they can "appoint" other CM for it. :)
 
@ShadowWizard Can? Sure. But you know how it is
not a priority and all that
 
@Henders yeah, beer too. But not there. Maybe from supermarket. :P
@Magisch who knows... :)
 
Even before that we went months without any communication and then afaik never more then "We'll look into it"
 
And now I am stuck waiting for Telerik reply to my bug report.
 
12:00 PM
The Team/Channel (never sure how it's called these days) SE gave you for free still exists? @Magi
 
oh, well, time to annoy you.
 
@Derpy did you get enough upvotes on it?
 
@ShadowWizard charcoal team still exists yea
 
I'm in three Channels that I got into for free... ;)
Charcoal, SOBotics, and the Mod Channel.
 
12:02 PM
shakes fist at diamonds
 
the video is a little old... but I doubt many users saw it. And before someone asks, it is official
(look at the channel it was posted on)
 
@Magisch well, it's better than nothing I guess. :)
 
@Magisch :( And here I was hoping we could still be friendly, even if I had two! :(
 
@ShadowWizard Mighty #9?
 
@Derpy TL;DR? (i.e. what to expect?)
 
12:04 PM
@Tinkeringbell shakes fist at diamond dual wielding parrots
 
@ShadowWizard look at the video...
 
@Derpy buh.. just watched.
Can't believe you made me watch advertisement for IE. MLP chapter would be much better to watch! :P
 
@ShadowWizard Officially Teams, but still Channels in many places, such as in the code - even in the URL; they're at /c/<name>
 
heh
Poofed in less than a minute... nice. :D
Parrot Power!
 
@ShadowWizard And I actually waited a few seconds cause poofed in 10 seconds seems harsh :P
 
12:11 PM
@Magisch Cat might make a reasonable replacement ;)
 
@Tinkeringbell rofl!
 
@Mithrandir Sure, if charcoal is ever deemed worthy to be paid more attention to again
closed 38 seconds ago, deleted 30 seconds ago
8 seconds to delete :D
 
@Magisch and I injected a vote too ;)
 
@ShadowWizard You're fast :P
 
@Magisch We just need Cat to ask Nick to just run Smokey and MS on a production server...
 
12:13 PM
@Mithrandir Do you honestly think that'll happen?
 
Just wait. Once I get that lost soul script to do everything at once... I'll be unstoppable! XD
 
@Magisch No, but can't hurt to ask
 
@Mithrandir sure, but better to expect nothing
 
if you never try you'll never succeed
 
it'd be interesting to compare smokey's filters to whatever inhouse tooling prevents the posts from even being made
 
12:21 PM
...I was about to reply but I'm not sure how much of that is public, so I'll be quiet
 
public static void main
 
partly public but obscure probably
i dont remember much from my days in the se teachers lounge
 
@Quill Well, you can at least be sure that everything caught by SmokeDetector isn't filtered out by the inhouse tooling ;)
 
the crowdsourcing is definitely where the power is
 
@Mithrandir I know what you were going to reply
I'm pretty sure most of it is buried in the CHQ transcript
 
12:26 PM
he's telepathic
 
@Mithrandir true, but on the other hand, if you do try and being refused (or even worse, ignored) too many times, it is not very encouraging.
 
Well, bear in mind "no means no"
ignored is a different matter
 
@Mithrandir and?
 
If you get refused... not really worth asking again
 
@ShadowWizard maybe I should repost in the anime "chatboard"?
oh, nice. Had a question that would work on SciFi, but someone already posted that on Movies....
 
12:43 PM
@Derpy IIRC, they don't make a fuss about having stuff on both sites ;)
 
@Tinkeringbell True maybe, but I don't think it would be worthy to repost if at best I will get the same reply that was posted on movies (which I would like to have expanded on)
 
Your call ;)
Writing posts takes effort, that's true. and if the effort isn't likely to be worth it...
 
oh, writing that wouldn't really be too much work. My point is that I totally expect someone to copy-word-by-word the reply on Movies
I had a question in mind, though it was worth Scifi, made a little search and Movies comes up in Google results.
Still not very convincing, but since most potential answer-poster will do the same...
 
1:00 PM
@Derpy They have two different user bases so you very well might get a different answer.
 
@Alex people on movies commented that the question was off-topic on their site, then someone posted a reply that talks about books
 
@Derpy If it's off-topic on Movies, all the more reason to ask it on Science Fiction & Fantasy. Books and movies are both on-topic there.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (94): Which register holds the final arithmetic and logic results? by joelambeth on electronics.SE
 
1:15 PM
still no news from Telerik...
oh, well...
@ShadowWizard Preferences? Start from episode 1? Looking for something specific?
 
@Mithrandir Maybe you could propose asking about hosting in the charcoal room
 
1:33 PM
@Magisch heh, why do I doubt that's likely
 
1 hour ago, by Magisch
@Mithrandir Do you honestly think that'll happen?
 
yup
 
@ArtOfCode Well you're the project director, if anyone can make it happen, go ahead :p
 
's probably more the issue that SE is C# - Smokey in Python and metasmoke in Ruby doesn't make hosting easy
also Windows is terrible at hosting either of them
 
1:38 PM
That would probably be solvable by giving SD a small (perhaps a decomissioned) box in one of their datacenters and hosting it on a seperate domain
like SEDE
 
@Magisch Yeah but then isn't it easier to just have charcoal members host it? Because if something happens to that box, now it'll be SE that'll have to fix stuff :/
 
@Tinkeringbell I suspect quite a few of the issues is that MS is hosted on a box only undo has access to, on a bandwith and heavily space constrained instance too
 
Morning...
Night!
 
@andmyself What's it going to be? ;)
Hi!
@Magisch That isn't likely to be solved by hosting it on a box only SE has access to then ;)
Perhaps the bandwidth and contraints may be a bit less...
 
@Magisch actually if hosting is a problem, I'd be happy to let folks have access to my old dedi
Its an offer I extended to folks before, as long as y'all are willing to actually do the fiddly bits I don't think I'm up to...
 
1:45 PM
No internet, no electricity, and no power on the phone. Whew. That's a hard day...
 
(actually I do need a little warning - and an idea of what OS y'all prefer)
 
@andmyself No internet, yet you're here? But that sounds pretty primitive yeah. Good luck surviving!
 
Smokey hosting isn't really a problem, we have plenty of hosts - it's metasmoke that's a hard problem
 
@ArtOfCode Its an 8 core avaton with 8gb of ram
 
@ArtOfCode What does metasmoke require?
 
1:47 PM
@Tinkeringbell On its own, not a whole lot more than Smokey - just a server and the nouse to run it
 
and I mean, literally "here's the server credentials - leave me an account in case shit happens, and do what you need"
 
@ArtOfCode Is it the coding of the thing or hardware?
 
problem is it crashes every now and then and suddenly we lose 75% of the system
 
@ArtOfCode ... sounds like my work setup ;p
 
To make it crash-resistant, we'd need to create a load-balanced system between multiple web servers and a separated DB server
 
1:48 PM
@ArtOfCode ahh
 
@ArtOfCode one idea would be to make a central database and redundant metasmoke instances accessing it
 
@ArtOfCode Ugh. Load balancing. :P
 
@ArtOfCode is the coding the problem or...
 
Done it before, not too difficult, but load balancers and DB instances are expensive and asking anyone to pay that is unreasonable
 
@ArtOfCode How expensive are we talking?=
 
1:48 PM
multiple hundreds a year
 
Is that something SE could be asked to provide?
 
@Magisch not that likely
 
@ArtOfCode And you really have to buy that?
 
If they're Linux boxes...
 
1:49 PM
Am I the only one here who has not understood a single word of the last ~25 messages?
 
@ArtOfCode what're we talking about, requirements wise?
 
@Tinkeringbell well I don't have any of 'em sitting at home, so yeah, unfortunately
 
I still think it might be worth asking. Maybe they have second hand hardware they could rig something like this out of in one of their datacenters
 
@Alex Metasmoke sometimes crashes, in order to avoid that you need to have some kind of fallback mechanism and that's expensive :P
 
shouldn't cost too much for them
 
1:50 PM
@JourneymanGeek for the web servers? Not huge. I think it's running on a t2.small at the moment
 
@ArtOfCode ....
 
can't recall what the specs for that are off the top of my head
 
lemme look that up
 
@Tinkeringbell Ah, so all the fancy terms are just to confuse me.
 
@Alex Yep ;)
 
1:51 PM
2 GB RAM on a small
 
@ArtOfCode roughly how much does that cost per month?
 
I think the load balancing / db setup thing is going to be the expensive part
 
@JourneymanGeek cc @Undo on exact numbers, but at cheapest it's $229/3 years
that bit isn't the expensive bit
 
@ArtOfCode eh, trying to work out how it compares to what I'm running now.
 
@ArtOfCode I think it would be a good idea to math out how much it'd cost to initially set all of this up and then run it
 
1:55 PM
it's the fact that you have to have at least two of those, plus a DB instance at a similar price, plus a load balancer at also similar pricing
 
and then maybe make some crowdfunding
 
:( I just got a mail from IT mentioning chocolate... BUT I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY CHOCOLATE! :(
 
@ArtOfCode and it might make sense possibly to try to see if its cheaper elsewhere AWS is good for some loads but...
 
I'm thinking of donation too...
 
so... we're looking at somewhere around $300-400/year
@JourneymanGeek Aye, potentially. Cloud provider finding is a pain :)
 
1:56 PM
That's 35$ a month
 
@ArtOfCode That's not that much :P
 
@ArtOfCode or dedis...
 
gotta factor in that both I and Undo know AWS, and moving to another and learning it is also a cost
 
I pay more then that for path of exile microtransactions
 
Is Google out of reach...
 
1:57 PM
@Tinkeringbell do they want an office rampage? Because that's how you get an office rampage!!
 
@ArtOfCode well, you're probably not going to have that much of a difference unless you've scripted out other things.
 
@Bart Exactly. I'm going to overthrow some desks, brb.
 
But I've been running random VPSes and Dedis and physical hardware so...
 
I'm pretty sure charcoal could raise 35 quid a month for server infrastructure
 
Probably some e-chocolate attached on the e-mail..
(not accustomed to chatting on mobile chat X_X")
 
1:59 PM
hmm
Its in euros, and french based...
online.net/en/server-dedicated/pro-2-m-ssd but you can get a xeon with 32gb for about that much ;p
 
@andmyself ;) It's okay. I don't like e-chocolate though. It's like e-cigarettes, really fake :P
 
@Tinkeringbell reply with an e-parrot
 
I'd have to make another Sinterklaas poem though, the e-mail was in rhyme as well...
 
@Magisch eeeehh. Not sure about that
Fundraising is hard
 
Continuous fundraising is even harder than one time
 
2:07 PM
@Andy So do it once, to buy the hardware to run a few instances ;)
 
That means raising like $1000 to get a few years before we have to do it again
 
Is charcoal a registered nonprofit?
 
Nope
Charcoal just is
It's not official at all :)
 
Can charcoal be a registered nonprofit
 
I recall Yvette vaguely talked about finding out what it would take but I have never heard back
 
2:10 PM
if we ever decide to do fundraising that is important cause taxes
 
Not a clue what it would take
Also not a clue about taxes, really
 
You can get the whole g-suite for free as nonprofit (not that this helps with hosting)
 
In my personal case, donating to a registered nonprofit means I save about 15% of the donation sum in taxes
 
@Henders that's neat
 
Like gift aid in the UK
 
2:15 PM
@Henders if they needed email, yeah
otherwise...
 
Personal taxes, aye
Not sure what we'd have to do about organisation taxes
 
also it would be a wierd little non profit
 
@JourneymanGeek Just general collaboration is pretty useful on gsuite too.
 
developing a tool pro bono for a for profit organisation
 
Personally here if you have a donation receipt and the organization you're donating to is a registered nonprofit you can deduct up to 20% of your total income from earned income for tax purposes if you've donated it
So if I made 30k a year and donated 1k of that I'll be taxed as if I had made 29k that year
 
2:19 PM
Kinda similar in the UK, except you're still taxed for 30k but the org can claim the tax on the 1k from the government
IIUC
 
@Magisch Yeah, that's the same here except mostly you opt to give that additional 25% (depending on your tax bracket) to the charity instead. So if you gave £100, the charity claims the tax on your behalf to make it into £125
 
Death to taxes! raises pitchfork
Oh, sorry, that's not this room.
 
Well I wouldn't object... but I do kinda like my NHS :P
 
@Henders Wikimedia does that. If you check that you don't need a donation receipt there's a box to opt to donate any tax savings instead.
 
Pretty neat
 
2:47 PM
mumble...
yep. It is time.
 
Time for tea?
!!/tea
 
@ShadowWizard brews a cup of bergamot for @ShadowWizard
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Url in title (96): Publishing computer related paper in j-asc.com/ journal ✏️ by Christy on academia.SE
 
@SmokeDetector no. Bergamot.
 
@balpha Quick reminder: it is "up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A" , not "up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, A, B". Making turtle themed excuses won't save you twice :P
 
@SmokeDetector thanks!! hug
 
2:51 PM
@Derpy what's this in reference to?
 
@Derpy or b a
Case matters!
But wait, isn't this what brought the chicken?
 
3:04 PM
Uhm, yes, this was totally for... trolling... and totally not because I misremembered the Konami code and then had to use the Turtles to direct you towards the A-B-reversed version... definitely not that. — balpha ♦ Dec 19 '17 at 14:29
That said, I would hope for something more merciful this year considering all the souls on the countdown.
 
Was just curious if you found another mal-implemented Konami code somewhere.
 
@Mithrandir there is another page on SE with a konami code egg, but it is the right one.
 
@Derpy tour?
 
3:19 PM
@ShadowWizard yep
 
Well, it's there for ages... :)
You were the first to find it? @Derpy
Think Marc did some challenge about it... let me find...
 
I think I even suggested once that they also add the reversed code there, which would produce the reversed logo
 
lol
Well, can't find it. meh
 
Try harder!
 
I.. ca... n... '... t
firing up SEDE
power reset
Found it!
14
A: What happened to the SE Euler Diagram?

Geoff DalgasDo not be alarmed - there is a "secret" way you can see the existing SE Venn Euler diagram in its full glory. It requires a little bit of inspection, but it's there. Kudos goes to the first person to find this hidden gem.

Had to search my comments for "Konami" to find it. ;)
 
3:30 PM
:D
 
Waaait. Is that a happy Bart?
 
Impossible!
 
4:03 PM
 
4:30 PM
Damn that was fast.. and scary. Had blood test this morning (routine check), doctor called less than 10 hours after that and asked me to re-do the tests related to liver functions. If anyone got a liver to spare, I'll be glad.... :/
hmm... who owes me something here...
:D
/cc @Mithrandir ^
;)
 
@ShadowWizard Next time, just make sure you're sober :P
 
@Tinkeringbell that's a colon, followed by capital D
 
But honestly that sounds kinda bad. Hope it's just nothing!
@Bart Usually used to express some form of delight. But if you meant something else, feel free to enlighten me :P
 
@Tinkeringbell I was drunk from being in HNQ, asked something related. ;)
@Tinkeringbell well, I had a liver malfunction in the past, caused by medicine I took. I stopped taking that med and all went back to normal. It was 20 years ago so hard to believe it's related. Also back then the doctor called in person, panicked, and yelled at me to stop using the medicine ASAP. Today "only" the secretary called and didn't sound in panic. :)
4
 
No panic is good. Stay healthy!
 
4:40 PM
Thanks! Will try. :D
For the sake of the Tavern!
 
5:14 PM
Nightmare fuel fizzbuzz:
> for (i = 0; i <= 100; i++) {
console.log( ( i % 3 === 0 ) ? ( ( i % 5 === 0 ) ? 'FIZZBUZZ' : 'FIZZ' ) : ( i % 5 === 0 ) ? 'BUZZ' : i );
}
 
5:39 PM
@ShadowWizard A lot of people that took paracetamol frequently as children ended up with liver function issues. I was very reluctant to give it to our kids, even for high fever, unless there was just no choice and even then we'd try Ibuprofen first.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer (87): How add shortcut of Printer setting on Desktop Panel on Ubuntu 13.10? by mark5151 on askubuntu.com
 
@TimPost my primary care physician says the same thing
she's really opposed to using paracetamol at all if you can help it
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer (60): make windows float behind xfce panel by SmartJames on askubuntu.com
 
especially since it's frequently easy to poison yourself with it
 
6:01 PM
ibuprofen is an awesome painkiller
 
Waait... People over here say the exact opposite. Stay away from the ibuprofen as it is bad for your stomach and more addictive than paracetamol :/
I feel some googling upcoming
 
@Tinkeringbell the amount of paracetamol necessary to poison and possibly permanently and severely damage your liver is just about double of the daily maximum recommended dose
there is a substantial amount of people who use it to relieve fever and then between bouts of being asleep because sick forget how long ago they took their last dose and then end up taking too much
 
6:17 PM
paracetamol is certainly way easier to overdose on
 
bonus points if you take one of those "all in one" flu remedies and don't know it has acetaminophen in it and then also take some paracetamol
 
@Tinkeringbell both of those things are true, but are not things to worry about if you use it as an as-needed painkiller
the whole "bad for your stomach" thing is because it's an NSAID - any NSAID painkiller has an inherent risk of causing stomach ulcers when taken for a prolonged period
likewise the addiction - more likely than paracetamol, but only if you're taking for long enough for that to be a concern
 
can one even get addicted to ibuprofen? I've never heard of that
 
200/400mg for a headache every fortnight or three ain't going to be a problem
 
@Magisch Yeah, my physician said it was bad to take it for about two weeks every month. You at the very least build up a kind of tolerance so that it won't work as well, apparently :/
But that's the same for paracetamol too, I guess
 
6:22 PM
@Magisch physiologically, it's debated whether or not it's addictive - but like Tink said, you can become tolerant to it or dependent upon it, or both
 
I'm mildly terrified of paracetamol tbh
I've had serious flu where I have no concept of the passage of time
the bits and bouts of going to the bathroom and quickly drinking something and taking meds before passing out again could be 2 hours apart or 20, in that state I would have no way of knowing
 
@Magisch the trick is to write it down
which also gives you an exact log of what you've had if you end up having to go to hospital
 
@ArtOfCode I wish I got headaches that infrequently.
 
@Magisch That's like a really horrific flu then! I've never lost the ability to keep track of time when having a flu, luckily
 
@Tinkeringbell I deal with fever really poorly and just sleep everything off
flu magisch has 1-2 hours of activity in him per day and the rest is sleep interspersed with a couple of minutes of taking medicine and drinking water
 
6:43 PM
@Magisch :/ That's really poor indeed. I can at least sit up and watch Netflix :P
 
7:06 PM
Errrr... how am I supposed to submit a question without the mouse...?
I can't seem to <kbd>tab</kbd> to the "post" button...
How ironic. I can't submit a complaint about accessibility due to an accessibility failure. <wry grin>
 
Did you try cursing at your screen/keyboard?
 
No... I've tried slapping the laptop, though.
 
That would have been my next suggestion ...
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body (97): Does Honey Promote Tooth Decay or Prevent It? ✏️ by Alex K on skeptics.SE
 
How does a laptop differentiate between a slap and a high-five? Perhaps you're just encouraging it.
 
7:12 PM
Good point.
 
See? Blaming the user always works.
 
...I guess I have another thing to add to my next report about keyboard accessibility, though...
Welp. I seem to have accidentally switched to mobile view and now can't switch it back. This is depressingly amusing :D
 
@Mithrandir Hmm, I'm not sure when that broke, but it would have to be recently, perhaps with the responsive work being done. I can say with a high degree of certainty that I tried tabbing through the question process and it worked, up to and including a stop at the checkbox in the correct order.
 
Yeah, makes sense.
 
I'm thinking at most ... 3 months ago?
 
7:16 PM
For me now, tabbing goes from a link I included in the question straight to the "discard" button.
 
That has broken before and we've fixed it. On safari, shift-tab oddly always seems to go to search, regardless of the current tab position, which is super weird. I'm blaming Safari for that, at least initially.
 
Oh huh, I just managed to somehow get to it, by shift-tabbing through everything.
Uh... but now that it's selected, pressing enter gets three dots, like "loading", and then nothing. O_O
Can anyone else repro this? I'm on Chrome on Ubuntu.
I mean.... don't go submitting nonsense questions just to check...
 
I'm able to tab straight through everything to the post button.
 
Including the text area, incidentally?
 
I don't mind people get disappointed and be vocal about it but really: meta.stackexchange.com/review/close/61339 and meta.stackexchange.com/review/close/61338 ...
 
7:25 PM
@Mithrandir Yes.
 
@rene Neither is. Fixed it ;)
 
Huh. I have to do gymnastics with ctrl-g to be able to tab out after tabbing into the post body, because the tab key... puts in tab characters.
 
@Tinkeringbell you closed both posts? ;)
 
@rene Gotta love being able to do that :P
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer (87): printer is detected as other devices instead of a printer by mark5151 on superuser.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer (60): Where can I find hi-res stock photography previews? by user3067865 on graphicdesign.SE
 
7:32 PM
@SmokeDetector links to site that tries to get your phonenumber
 
Well that was odd. I could post that from FireFox but not from Chrome. Might be a rogue script - unfortunately, I can't disable the scripts without the mouse....
 
For the record, I was using Chrome.
 
8:33 PM
Wow, Area 51 gets responsive design?
 
ynot
 
@rene Where? When? :P
 
@Tinkeringbell here
 
Wow. You're still tracking that tracking post? :P
 
Yes, I thought that was expected ...
 
8:45 PM
Technically, it's just for the Discussions section, not the full A51... I think.
 
meta 51
also morning
 
@Quill Good night! :D
 
Yep. It's been clarified. It's just Discussions, not all of A51....
 
Oh, okay. Makes sense.
sd del
 
@Mithrandir raising donations for new mouse for @Mithrandir 🐁
 
8:59 PM
Mouse won't help... I think I need an entirely new laptop.
 
It's Mithranhere, Mithranthere, Mithraneverywhere
 

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