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Morneng
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@publicstaticvoidmain bounties are more a way to spend rep and get general attention on things. Staff don't need rep :p
 
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05:45
@ShadowWizard Um...the user who posted that is themselves an employee, so...
(they weren't at the time they posted that though)
Morning!
> Morning!
06:21
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer (92): Windows 10 - Set up a OS-level proxy with authentication by Racheal Chapman on superuser.com
I better get out of this train and walk. Would be quicker ....
@rene you got super powers?
@ShadowWizard Heh. Or a typical Dutch train ;)
We're crawling to Utrecht ....
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog still, he forgot about the question and unless someone would have reminded him, that would never be done, most likely.
@JourneymanGeek they can use it when they no longer work for SE... ;)
@Tinkeringbell but why? Can't imagine a traffic jam on the rail?? 🚆/cc @rene
06:44
20K ubuntu meta.stackexchange.com/questions/318880/… (needs 1 more) quick @sha before the mods get to it ...
Or they could like... fly... like Flying Dutchman...
@ShadowWizard there is a traffic jam here. It is Utrecht Central Station ...
@rene KABOOM
@rene heh. Here the trains are slow by design.
Y'all do realize I am modding on my phone @rene :p
My turn is nearing!
@JourneymanGeek so? Deleting is easy through mobile. Just did it. :)
06:51
@JourneymanGeek I know ... the downside of those eager mods is that I now never get to increase my close review stats on MSE ...
@ShadowWizard only one window at a time + tiny screen
I very rarely close via the review on MSE.
@JourneymanGeek a good time to make FR for improving mobile mod ;p
@JourneymanGeek same here. Still not an excuse. ;)
06:56
@andmyself we've asked for ages
(at least better than the app...)
@rene Have you by any chance taken the Eurostar to London?
I actually use the desktop view since it's usable at 5.5 inch 1080p for most things
app is good for one thing only, instant notifications.
is there still active development on the app
06:57
LOL. No
@andmyself I think the apps are reaching critical levels of brokedness
For years.
@ShadowWizard Doesn't work when your phone is in "deep sleep"
They should just go with web notifications and sunset it
@JourneymanGeek I have 5.7 inch 1440p and it's not really usable
06:57
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog never put it in this state. Just put on silence.
@ShadowWizard It's automatic
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog oh
Not in my device.
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog I only do the on sites I mod
No idea how many inches I have.
2
So SU before and after responsive design MSE after
06:59
My latest Fry's Electronics find: a beanie (winter cap) with built-in speakers
For only $18
I have 5.5'
But it's still a unitasking device
Lol now if I edit it won't be funny. ;)
Think LG4 has a standard screen.
Despite my screen being 1440p, 1080p and 720p video is still noticeably sharp
There's a visible difference between the two, but still sharp
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog no, only the Thalys to Brussels Midi
07:01
Anyway, I set SE as Priority app, so any notif will pierce the silence, even in the middle of a meeting...
@andmyself I don't. :P
@rene Ah, right, that's only operated in one direction; the other way, you have to travel to Brussels to catch it
But most of my productive SE time is on a PC or laptop
See, this is why I want SE to support IE11, so I can use it on my Windows RT tablet. My laptop, while slim, is still heavy and gets hot, and my original Surface is nice and light and has a keyboard cover.
my iphone has uninstalled the SE app so many times from being unused
I just use it for notifications :p
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog or maybe a more modern browser
That's stuck on 8.1 right?
@JourneymanGeek Yes, and you can't install an alternative browser
I just read this about alterntive browsers on WinRT 8.1 and... well, the situation is bad
i bought one thinking it would be a good portable device for dev stuff
it's near useless
Well, I do have some PCs I could use as RemoteApp servers to "run" an alternative browser on Windows RT
I keep a desktop running at my house, so I could find out its WAN IP, enable port forwarding on my router, and use applications on it while away
It's also useless for music streaming since Microsoft terminated the Groove music service last year. (I subscribed to it not only to use it on that, but also because they paid higher commissions to the artists.)
07:12
@andmyself and that specific windows on arm attempt was an evolutionary dead end
But you can still browse websites, play some games, edit Office documents in a true desktop editor (rather than one pared down for mobile), use it with USB flash drives, and for those cases where you need some other app, just use RemoteApp
yeah...
perhaps like Windows Phone...
Eh. Lucky I won second prize in that old su contest :p
It doesn't have a driver for optical drives, but I recently acquired one that has a special mode for devices like it, where it emulates a standard USB flash drive and can thus work
07:24
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(stupid phone keyboard)
reached destination station. Transfer to meeting location. brb.
07:39
Thanks
@rene why not just virtual meeting?
@andmyself so hope you're not in the middle of a meeting now... ;)
@ShadowWizard I'm already kicked out from the meeting room :p
@ShadowWizard good call ....
07:54
@andmyself lol! And banned for 30 minutes? ;)
@rene suggest it to the boss! :D
Oo
I didn't do nuffin
@JourneymanGeek yes you did... you were the one who ping-replied me ;p
@andmyself no, I did. ::P
@Journeyman rarely ping reply. ;)
@Quill I wonder, if one doesn't use the iPhone for making or receiving calls for long time, will it uninstall that feature? ;)
@ShadowWizard I'm the boss :(
08:01
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer, blacklisted user (70): Basic Crowdsale Contract by Olga K. on ethereum.SE
@ShadowWizard your iPhone will disappear O_O
@rene oh. So.. suggest it to yourself! :D
@andmyself awesome! buying iPhone just for that purpose
sd 2 poof
Parrot and pony arriving together. How cute. :D
uh oh
button pressed in 10... 9... 8...
cute? or double trouble? :P
08:03
lol
Hopefully the pony won't read the starboard.... :D
Looks like the off topic wave which was result of the mass email is over. We're back to the ordinary amount.
hehe saw it coming...
@ShadowWizard it's about as it seems to be
@JourneymanGeek Well you can view list of them so can tell the numbers easily, per day. :)
08:07
looks like my message is safe...
@ShadowWizard well in theory
But with my luck. I have been stuck to modding on my phone the first two weeks of my MSE modship
Unlucky edit bug on mobile chat...
@ShadowWizard hmm, the other members don't agree ....
@JourneymanGeek :(
@rene members of the Conclave?
of the meeting ...
participants ..
08:15
@JourneymanGeek And I was annoyed that I got my diamond on a SE free day :P
Can't imagine what spending two weeks not fully able to enjoy your diamond must be like ;)
@rene Oh, I get it. They want to see you in person because you're a flower. One can't smell a flower in conference call. :P
@ShadowWizard i'm dreaming of the day it uninstalls me too and becomes sentient
@Tinkeringbell mostly handling it on my phone :p
@Quill but you're in use
Anyone else here tried the new "thin Oreo"?
(well, new here at least...)
Looks like it exists for years, Israel just lagging behind. :(
Quite honestly MSE is pretty easy for now
The hard stuff needs a proper keyboard
08:19
@JourneymanGeek well, @Magi isn't looking for socks like he did on SO... ;)
@ShadowWizard the mechanics are easy. People is hard
@JourneymanGeek so what about SU? The other mods handle it?
Same as ROing
@ShadowWizard I had a fun flag today....
@ShadowWizard on SU we have stuff dialed in well
If things go wrong there's a half a dozen effective ways people can get our attention
And we have a lot more experience there with the specific site - and the users know us very well.
@JourneymanGeek MSE or SU?
08:23
@JourneymanGeek I kind of want to snow you under 100 serial voting flags and try if that holds :p
@Magisch totally something I can't handle off my phone
Actually comment clearances are a pain too
im surprised there aren't any electron apps of se
On an unrelated note, I wrote a userscript to enable a dark theme in our js web editor for my company's erp system
@Quill elect...ron?
Who is Ron?
08:30
Nor Weasley
This Ron?
Ron, Bandung, Indonesia
101 1
Looks too young to be elected, IMO. ;)
@Quill not very sure what that would offer over the webpages
oh, okay... Electron Apps. I thought a typo of Election Apps.
There was an Android chat app that was a wrapper over the old mobile UI though
So name is already taken. :(
@JourneymanGeek think it officially closed by its author when SE published their app, no?
oh wait...
Sorry, no official app for chat. lol
08:35
@ShadowWizard probably "deprecated" after the latest mobile chat update...
@ShadowWizard I think he felt the new mobile UI made his app obsolete
I wouldn't have minded an official API tho
@andmyself oh... yeah. :/
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Q: Provide a streaming chat API

TheLQAs people try and make IRC and XMPP bindings for chat, they all seem to be using the same inefficient and undocumented AJAX based system to communicate to the chat server by simply reverse engineering chat with Firebug. All current implementations are messy, unreliable, and incomplete. And new pe...

@JourneymanGeek pretty much just mod tools & chat
would you even be able to publish something like that onto the app store/play store
Sure, as long as you respected SE's copyrights
maintaining chat tools is hard
it took me like three days to get ws to work
08:52
o.o
09:29
moderator flag pending on MSE, who will get it first? Parrot? Dog?
that's not even fair there are two dogs and only one parrot
@Magisch Don't worry. Parrots are small and fast :P They'll manage to squeeze their way in ;)
09:46
@Derpy Okay, customer satisfaction survey. Was that fast enough? :P
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If not we can handle your flag in 6 to 8 weeks....
10:15
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@JourneymanGeek oh, I am pretty sure @ShadowWizard would have been very happy with that option. Gives him plenty of time to find that profile before it gets deleted.
@Derpy hmm? What option?
@Derpy He's not that uncouth ;)
10:32
@Tinkeringbell me? Think again..... :D
Poor @Derpy gave up on me long ago.... ;)
Yeah, but parrots don't have to play as nice as ponies. I'll fix it ;)
@ShadowWizard we all have ... ;)
:(
):
]: :[
@rene Hey! Flowers are supposed to cheer people up.
Now look what you did...
10:48
@Tinkeringbell not all flowers..... ;)
@ShadowWizard Heh. I was expecting something like rafflesia ;) orchids are cool, and cheer you up a lot.
@Tinkeringbell nah that one doesn't scare me. It's the flower with bad smell, right? ;)
Yep
I didn't really find the orchid scary either.
Or google dried snapdragons ;)
(I hope that's the right English, if not, it's called antirrhinum in proper latin :P)
@ShadowWizard uncouth avatar user. Sadly, you didn't get the option to see it before I got it deleted
Avoiding that was the precise reason I used a flag only the mods would see instead of just asking for deletion here
11:00
@Mithrandir Yep, here too ;)
That's what happens when you have no sites in dev...
@Tinkeringbell yummy! Eyeballs! :D
@Derpy :(
@Mithrandir lol
@Mithrandir I think there's a joke about how they all look the same anyway smewhere....
11:19
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, potentially bad keyword in answer (61): How to complete 3D Export PCB in Altium by Chris Harrington on electronics.SE
The mistake was starting with having a unique design for each site; Whoever decided this didn't look far enough into the future, where it was obvious they can't keep it for over 100 sites. Now that it's a done thing, taking away the custom design from the sites which have it, is cruel and real risk to the smaller sites, which might lose long time users over this.
I said it before somewhere, probably some comment: it's not moving cheese, it's taking away cheese without giving something else in return.
e.g. in all the top bar changes, the core functions were kept, even if moving to different place.
@ShadowWizard Post 1: Could not find data for this post in the API. It may already have been deleted.
@SmokeDetector true, it's deleted.
I know.
@SmokeDetector poof
heh
Did I already say that allowing deleting any Smokey message is weird? ;)
(expecting only reports to be delete-able via gone or poof)
ok, the guarantee 24-hour response from telerik was supposed to come about one hour ago...
What is it you have with Telerik? @Derpy
11:27
Think I should send them a picture of Majora's Mask falling moon?
wait... that name.. brings old memory of SharePoint for some reason.
@ShadowWizard bug report, premium support
premium... LOL
It's just a shortcut to "You pay more for getting less". :D
"And we don't care because there's nothing you can do."
spreadsheet component, KendoUI
They do web parts for SharePoint or something?
11:29
a whole can of cell/font sizes related bugs.
The memory isn't really good, probably something I had to fight with in order to customize to our needs.
Think I just created many web parts from scratch instead, to save the long hours of hair pulling.
Time to Google, I assume. hmm....
ewww yes I was correct.
> Empower Users With Ready-to-Use Web Parts
the bug isn't related to web parts in this case
"Ready to use".... hehe, think it was the biggest joke in my team when I worked with SharePoint.
it is a problem in a stand alone javascript component
@Derpy well, in my case it wasn't really about bugs, it was the web parts resisting any small change.
Why not ask on SO though? stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/telerik @Derpy
11:34
@ShadowWizard because it is a BUG.
@Derpy bug in their core code? Oh.
I want them to fix it, not having to work around it
@ShadowWizard just to give an idea: you have an Excel file with a cell with some text in it
let's say that the font size is 24
I really believe you'll either have to wait 6-8 years until they publish new version that will (hopefully) not have the bug, or find a way around it.
you use the component import functionality... and the resulting worksheet also has a cell with font size 24
I can't see a big company responding to private bug report with "Sure, we fixed it and sending you the fix right away".
It just doesn't happen.
11:37
@ShadowWizard that is what the premium support option is supposed to do. If it doesn't, that will at least save us the renewal money
returning to what I was saying...
seems correct right? You had 24, you get 24
Yup. But?
Little problem: on Excel those are 24pt. On the component 24px
kudos all text in the sheet changing size, often no longer fitting the cell.
Maybe their programmers are not aware there are different font units, so always assume font size is in pixels?
It can happen...
I wasn't aware of different font units until 1-2 years into CSS.
11:40
probably
that said, should be pretty easy to fix in their source code..
To this day I use only pixels but at least aware other options exist. :)
for me, that is a little more problematic
@ShadowWizard WE LOVE HATS! Winter Bash will begin in 14 days, 12 hours, 17 minutes, and 28 seconds.
in Shadow's Den, 10 secs ago, by FOX 9000
@ShadowWizard days, 17 will and Bash 14 LOVE minutes, begin 12 28 WE hours, in Winter seconds. HATS!
:D
11:43
Oh yeah. My countdown is under 20 too! it's at 18 :D
The real important date is december 7th, 22.00 gmt +1
new path of exile expansion
lol
@Tinkeringbell including weekends? ;)
@ShadowWizard Nah, I'm only counting workdays ;)
Also... small miracles: He just merged something without saying I should change 10 other things as well :D
@Tinkeringbell kudos!
@Derpy lol, nice! :)
11:49
@ShadowWizard I didn't do anything different, though I did play nasty the last retro...
@Magisch SMASH BROS ULTIMATEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh, btw... yesterday you asked me for a MLP episode, right @ShadowWizard?
(yep, I "cheated", this is fanmade. But it is also the one that will deliver a good punch...)
it is also only 14' compared to 21' for a real episode.
Yet there are many fan that would love to get this story "official"
!!/hots
11:59
@andmyself No such command 'hots'.
lol
!!/colds
@ShadowWizard No such command 'colds'.
Good. No colds ;)

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