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Catija

1:10 AM

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog According to what Shog said earlier, just undeleting will already remove those votes.

It's an unrelated issue. If you want to talk about it, please use a post of your own.

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Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

1:31 AM

@Catija I was referring to the automatic "disputed low quality review" moderator flag that gets raised when a user undeletes their own post that got deleted in review.

Automatic flags get cleared when a post gets deleted. My point provides additional support to the point that users shouldn't be able to delete review-deleted posts.

Catija

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog That's not really what I'm asking, though. It's not a feature request, it's a discussion. I'm not asking for it to change, I'm asking to understand why it is the way it is.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Shog9 Has there been any consideration for getting that bug fixed?

Catija

If these undeletions are really that uncommon, the number of people abusing the auto flag like that has to be minuscule... it's just not on my radar.

Fixing that problem is irrelevant of whether someone should be able to undelete at all. That seems like a bug that needs to be addressed either way.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Shog9 This was done not with low-quality posts in mind, but rather with the Roomba in mind.

Shog9

yes, I remember

aside to (aside to (aside to (the question)))

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

1:42 AM

@Shog9 How about the above design flaw I mentioned?

That users can avoid detection by undeleting, re-deleting, and undeleting again?

Shog9

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog it can be fixed

but

it's happened

uh...

586 times on SO

and 362 of those times its been re-deleted

small potatoes

worth fixing, but not worth freaking out over

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Shog9 By the author?

Shog9

yeah, that's not a lot really

see a few pages up about the tens of thousands of posts deleted via this path on SO in a year's time

those remaining 224 instances... That's all-time

that's over 4 years

it's like...

there's a way to get spam flags invalidated by posting something innocuous, then editing it to be spam, then rolling back, then editing it to be spam again

that loophole has existed for almost 10 years now

...spammers pretty much never do that.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Shog9 Isn't there a rate limit for rolling back?

Shog9

no

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

1:51 AM

IMO there should be

Shog9

there are very few rate limits for editing in general

...i have talked in this room too much today. most of my backscroll is blue

Catija

WARNING!!! WARNING!!! Shog approaching daily word limit... Aooooogah Aooogah! Shut down in 200 words.

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Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Shog9 Just one more question: why are users prevented from viewing specific off-topic close reasons or duplicate targets others have selected if they voted to close? They just see the top-level reason others selected, but not the specific reasons or targets.

Shog9

Huh?

Are u asking why you can't dig through menues 8f you've already voted?

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Shog9 I voted to close this question as unclear. I now see that someone else has voted to close it as off-topic. However, the system won't let me click on "off-topic" to see what specific reason they selected.

Shog9

2:04 AM

so what

you can't vote twice. Knowing what someone else voted buys you nothing.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

This also applies where someone else has voted to close as duplicate (I can't click on "duplicate" to see the specific target they've selected), but that's less of a problem due to the automatic commenting (unless the original close voter deleted their comment).

@Shog9 Why allow me to view specific reasons if I haven't close voted, but disallow it if I've voted? Why was the decision made to implement it that way?

What's the reason behind the intentional decision to do that?

Shog9

why would you ever need to know how anyone else has voted?

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

May 4 at 10:37, by Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

I'm a genuinely curious hedgehog

Shog9

that's not what i asked

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

Yes, it was

Journeyman Geek

2:09 AM

wait.... blue?

@Shog9 if they were smart enough to do more than post hit and run crap... they wouldn't be spamming

Catija

@JourneymanGeek Your own chat messages appear in blue highlighting...

Journeyman Geek

ah, I forgot ;p

this PC has porkchat installed

Catija

Mine does too...

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek What's that?

Catija

browser addon.

Journeyman Geek

2:14 AM

browser extention that does a dark theme for chat

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

What does it do?

Journeyman Geek

for some odd reason I can't get userstyles to work and its easier

Catija

Lots of various chat things...

Some of them are mod-only.

I don't use the dark theme... there was something about it I ended up not liking...

Journeyman Geek

I might disable it, it looks kinda bad in mobile mode so I can't do my vivaldi chat as sidebar thing

Makyen

2:28 AM

@Shog9 There are some relatively rare edge cases where knowing the other votes might be helpful. Somewhat contrived SO example: you've voted for "General computing", but the post has been edited such that it now makes for a viable migration candidate to SU. While you might want to keep your vote in place to help close it sooner, if the voting becomes 2 for General Computing and 2 for migration to SU, then retracting your CV is required for there to be a possibility for it to be migrated to SU.

OTOH, if the votes are 1 for General Computing and 3 for migration, then it's still possible for it to be migrated, if the 5th vote is for migration. These two situation are identical from the first page of the CV-dialog, so being able to click-through to at least the OT panel is needed to distinguish them. But, to be honest, the desire to see that information is mostly because inquiring minds want to know. Adding (userscript) the ability to click-through to the other panels was relatively easy.

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Journeyman Geek

cv-plz meta.stackexchange.com/questions/311543/…

Suraj Rao

4:51 AM

@SmokeDetector thanks? but I think it has become cold by now

Shog9

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A: Allow new users to flag comments on their own posts

I've been thinking about this all week, and doing a bit of research... Here are my current thoughts: "if you're allowed to comment on a post, you're allowed to flag comments on that post, too." - this is subtly different from what's proposed in the title, but it's an important difference and I ...

@πάνταῥεῖ @Catija ^

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Makyen Can you please post that user script on Stack Apps?

rene

@Shog9 is that supposed to work that you can ask on meta about your answer. I assumed it only worked for questions?

Shog9

not really, but apparently it does

:|

rene

Okay, so the confusion is mutual then ;)

Shog9

4:57 AM

I guess...

...arguably...

...this is just a perfect storm of errors

rene

You need a bug report for that? I can write one if needed

Shog9

ask question... in an answer... go to meta... post question about question in answer... edit meta question to be ACTUAL QUESTION which still resides in answer on main.

@rene I think no amount of fixing will fix whatever mindset led to this

status-hopeless

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rene

lol

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Makyen If the question is off-topic on SU and the scenario you describe here applies, you can ask someone to prevent migration by casting a normal close vote.

Anne Daunted

@Catija According to that MSO post, yes.

Makyen

5:05 AM

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog I'll add it to the list of things I'm should break out of my personal SE adjustments into it's own userscript.

Nog Shine

5:22 AM

What is facebook.stackoverflow.com ?

Journeyman Geek

oh

experimental microsite for facebook questions

didn't work out

Nog Shine

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A: Avatar changed into my Facebook picture after adding Facebook to my account?

If you log in to facebook.stackoverflow.com using Facebook, we'll pull down your Facebook profile picture auto-magically. Once connected, changes to your Facebook profile picture will be reflected on Stack Overflow As your facebook.SO account and regular SO account are the same thing, changing ...

See first line. But it redirects me to SO questions tagged facebook

Journeyman Geek

4

Q: Facebook Stack Overflow?

Somehow I found the Facebook Stackoverflow site, with the icon being the regular Stack Overflow icon with a facebook icon on top of it: Is it an easter egg? If so, how does it differ from the original Stack Overflow site?

@NogShine its probably outdated and slightly broken at this point

Suraj Rao

It just redirects to the SO wildcard tag

Journeyman Geek

yup

Nog Shine

5:29 AM

ok, after reading that answer, I got a doubt. If we are adding FB as a login credential and update profile picture there, our avatar also updates here. Does this happen with our google+ too?

Journeyman Geek

zat I don't know

Nog Shine

I see many new users getting an avatar with first alphabet as their name just like default google+ profile picture.

I think this is new.

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6:27 AM

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Shadow Wizard

@NogShine it should import Facebook/Google+ profile pic and display name once when creating new account. If it's doing it when adding login to existing account, it's a bug.

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We use imgur for image hosting, so if you want to use the direct upload feature, that's really your only option. Gravatar is still supported, but take note that this exposes a MD5 hash of the email you've given to Gravatar: To get there, go to your profile by clicking your avatar on the top ...

> I believe we now capture the associated avatar during signup, and ask you if you want to use it

Derpy

7:47 AM

morning

rene

yes, it is. Although I'm awake since 5:30 so I'm up for lunch already although that is not due for another 2 hours.

user310756

rene

Buy a proper pillow for the poor animal ...

sd remove

Derpy

@rene I also tried Pinkie's "Okie Dokie Lokie" and Arale's "N'cha!"... and no one replied. So you get a lame "morning". -_-

rene

Works for me ;)

user310756

7:54 AM

@rene yep mum's feed bucket lol

user310756

she's going to be ok. We're so lucky <3

Shadow Wizard

@YvetteColomb cheers!

user310756

@ShadowWizard yay :)

Shadow Wizard

@rene why since 5:30???

rene

@ShadowWizard production run for a customer.

Shadow Wizard

7:56 AM

you're very... dedicated.

What's the rush? Why not doing it in more... sane... schedule?

user310756

@ShadowWizard i read that as "you're very... delicate"

Shadow Wizard

Starting so early probably makes you tired, so efficiency is hurt. No? @rene

@YvetteColomb this too, sure! :D

rene

@ShadowWizard well, this conversion takes about 6 to 8 hours and the customer don't want to do it in the night or weekend. So when they come in I have to make sure everything is ready.

Magisch

@YvetteColomb i still suspect foal play

as in a foal will be playing

Shadow Wizard

@rene whoa... so why not split over two days?

user310756

8:03 AM

@Magisch don't be filly (baby girl foal)

Magisch

@YvetteColomb the comparison behooves you (I got nothing) :p

Shadow Wizard

Fun fact: @Derpy use the word "filly" frequently.

rene

@ShadowWizard they go from an old system to my system in a day. They can't afford to not have access to their data for two days.

user310756

@Magisch hay, stop it with the puns :)

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user310756

8:13 AM

Shadow Wizard

@rene oh. "your system"... sounds nice. how much it cost? ;)

@YvetteColomb yeah, let's start with pens!

rene

@ShadowWizard 50% of what they payed for their previous system. (that is our marketing strategy but in all honesty I don't do the contract negotiations so I don't know actual pricing)

user310756

@ShadowWizard I'll grass on you and @Magisch

Magisch

@YvetteColomb don't saddle me with that responsibility

rene

sd remove

user310756

8:20 AM

@Magisch such unbridled thoughts

Derpy

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A: What are the rules for using "Nobody" and "Nopony"?

As now, it is somehow unclear if a rule does even exist officially. Let me explain. From an external viewpoint, I am not aware of any official comment by the staff that would prove the existence of a written "style guide" that regulate the use of words like "....[pony]", using "hoof" instead of ...

Magisch

@YvetteColomb we're fast galopping to the point where I can't think of any more horse puns

user310756

@Magisch stop making jumps

Magisch

@YvetteColomb now you're just trotting out the easy ones

user310756

@Magisch I canter disagree

user310756

8:24 AM

@rene thanks for the rusk with mice :)

Shadow Wizard

!!/report meta.stackexchange.com/a/311549/152859

@rene wait... thought you're freelancer?

@JNat cross site frying pan spammer... unless you want their pan, better burn them all.... :D

rene

@ShadowWizard I still am but I also co-own an IT-shop.

Shadow Wizard

@rene ohh, nice.

Derpy

8:39 AM

.... someone upvoted the answer I just linked. Weird, I see no new matching users on the site.

Journeyman Geek

9:13 AM

@ShadowWizard at least its the two most appropriate sites

Shadow Wizard

cough

@JourneymanGeek loll.... True!

Magisch

@ShadowWizard bluehole is preparing the lawsuit as we speak

Shadow Wizard

Blue who?

Magisch

makers of PUBG. They sued a mobile game developer over using frying pans as weapons in their battle royale spinoff

citing PUBG frying pans are "iconic" and "protected ip"

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Somewhat Memorable Name

9:25 AM

Can't say for PUBG, but L4D2 also has frying pans long before...

Derpy

^ was her weapon of choice in Mario Rpg.

That means.... SNES era.

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Shadow Wizard

9:44 AM

@Magisch oh lol

@SomewhatMemorableName is this a robot from Star Wars?

Surely sounds like one..... :D

@Derpy looks like a mirror, not frying pan

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard left for dead 2

4 person co-op game by valve

Shadow Wizard

I just love those shortcuts which I have no chance of ever guessing... :/

R2D2 is much better anyway. :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

the first game was called left for dead...

and people r lazy

Shadow Wizard

Yeah, every two words become two letters

I'm honestly amazed the young generations can still read and write whole words.

Journeyman Geek

I'm sure that amazement goes back as far as people could read and write whole words ;p

granted "universal" literacy is a relatively new concept

Shadow Wizard

9:55 AM

nah, talking about the fact they're busy 24/7 writing "lol", "rofl' and silly icons on their phones...

That' pretty new.

Journeyman Geek

Amusingly enough, there's a running joke over how often I say lol on chat

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek but you also say more words... the "youngsters" don't.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard welll...

I'm the second chattiest 'real' person on the main chat.

but communication... evolves

Shadow Wizard

how you measure it? Who is first?

Journeyman Geek

cerebrus

chat.stackexchange.com/users

then look at activity

looks like smokey overtook Cerberus, but smokey is spammy ;p

Shadow Wizard

10:02 AM

466k messages, impressive.

Nick rules here with 223k

...and I'm the only "mortal" in the first page. lol

modiX

11:04 AM

Hi, can you help me? Is my question unclear, or why it does not get much attention for all these days? stackoverflow.com/questions/50865935/…

rene

@modiX I think not that many users will host their own appstore. Last time I played with that was in 2011 and it was hard if not impossible and back then hardly documented.

Mithrandir

@modiX Quesions often go unanswered until the right person comes across it. There are thousands of questions without answers, just waiting for the right person to come along and answer it, through no fault of the question itself.

rene

@modiX Your question looks OK-ish to me and I guess is answerable for anyone who had done this before.

modiX

11:24 AM

Thanks for the feedback, I decided to add a bounty, hopefully anybody can find a way, I'm absolutely clueless why this does not work.

Mgetz

@modiX the icon needs to be hosted next to the location of the IPA IIRC

you have to have PNG version that's used as a temporary during the download until iOS can use the one inside the archive

Shadow Wizard

OMG

The Frying Pan

Cooking.SE public chat

Spam!! :P

Mgetz

@ShadowWizard Aloha, I suspect ohana cooking

Shadow Wizard

plz-delete bundle meta.stackexchange.com/questions/311554/… @Bart @rene @JourneymanGeek

rene

11:53 AM

(d/g)one

modiX

@Mgetz That's what I did. It's hosted on the same domain.

Thus it cannot load it and will only load the image inside the archive when it's installed.

Shadow Wizard

!!/coffee modi

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizard brews a cup of Latte for @modi

rene

12:11 PM

@modiX do you see attempts in the server log to fetch that image? It is running over https with a valid certificate, right? You can download that image yourself?

Shadow Wizard

it's getting worse.... next people will start asking "Why I have low salary???"

rene

12:25 PM

Why I have low salary???

Shadow Wizard

12:45 PM

@rene because you're too gentle

Don't ask for more money, demand more money. :P

Martin James

@ShadowWizard ..and check out which bus goes to the unemployment welfare office:)

Shadow Wizard

@MartinJames hehe, well, @rene is already freelancer, so can't really be fired... ;)

modiX

@rene Thank you for the cup of Latte.

@rene The certificate is valid and I can access the image with the URL, of course.

@ShadowWizard I wanted to mention you for the Latte, Shadow Wizard :)

Shadow Wizard

1:10 PM

lol np

rene

1:28 PM

@modiX of course ... said that so many times ;)

Mgetz

@ShadowWizard Developers are not exactly known for their assertive tendencies when it comes to authority

Shadow Wizard

@Mgetz too bad

Mgetz

@ShadowWizard What do you expect from a group of people that didn't even whimper when their jobs were outsourced

Shadow Wizard

@Mgetz hmm? Who we talk about now?

Mgetz

@ShadowWizard exactly

Somewhat Memorable Name

2:02 PM

@ShadowWizard yes

Shadow Wizard

@ShadowWizard sure

rene

@ShadowWizard true

Shadow Wizard

@rene boolean

rene

@ShadowWizard logical

Shadow Wizard

Secret SE employee found!

aki

1 1 1 2

Proof:

in Localization Of Stack Overflow, 5 hours ago, by aki

domo desu!

Posted in chat with 1 rep only...

New CM?

oh. No employee... "Even when this room is read-only or their reputation is too low, these users will be able to talk in this room."

Anyway, such a weird room.

rene

2:13 PM

isn't that the localization bot?

Somewhat Memorable Name

Transifex

Derpy

@ShadowWizard remember what I said about Star ~~stalk~~ Tracker? ^_^'

Shadow Wizard

@rene no idea, he has diamond on one site. Bot with diamond is... interesting concept. ;)

rene

@ShadowWizard see chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/89?m=6306427#6306427

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy sure! I ♥ Stalking

@rene oh. So he is SE employee and secret CM. Nice.

Derpy

2:15 PM

or at least, he was secret. Until Shadow.

Somewhat Memorable Name

Aug 31 '17 at 12:28, by user315433

Jeff's secret identity.

darn, Norm...

Shadow Wizard

al

Plot twist: Jeff is back to business as a Japanese CM.

Trying to make Stack Overflow Great Again, from the inside.

Mgetz

@ShadowWizard is this a joke about the 'Civil Discourse Construction Kit' failing?

Shadow Wizard

@Mgetz joke about Trump in general, no idea about what you mentioned...

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard they've been around since jmac left

Somewhat Memorable Name

2:30 PM

Discourse.... Discourse... Discourse...

Journeyman Geek

but I've never heard them mentioned anywhere, nor seen them anywhere

Mgetz

@ShadowWizard so the official name of Jeff's Discourse company was 'The Civil Discourse Construction Kit' IIRC

Somewhat Memorable Name

FR: Integrate Discourse on SE. ran away

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek yeah, so no doubt a CM, but kept secret for some odd reason.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard which is odd

Shadow Wizard

2:31 PM

@SomewhatMemorableName say again

Journeyman Geek

I've had contact with almost every CM

even the russian one

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek maybe he's not good with English, so prefer to stick only on ja.SO and not be exposed to other sites where he'll be required to use English.

Somewhat Memorable Name

@ShadowWizard he has posted on Meta jaSO since its public beta

Journeyman Geek

I'd almost wonder if bot ;p

@ShadowWizard well its possible, but kinda odd that its secret

Shadow Wizard

@Mgetz lol! Sounds so weird... sure to fail as company name.

Somewhat Memorable Name

2:33 PM

Back then when they're doing Transifex localization

Journeyman Geek

@SomewhatMemorableName arn't they still?

or is that why alexolut is quiet these days?

Somewhat Memorable Name

@JourneymanGeek alexolut is still active, for ruSO. But jaSO... few (no one?) cares about further localization

Journeyman Geek

ah

idk lol

I tend to stick to the less glam sites XD

Somewhat Memorable Name

Even some of the common ones are still not translated

Journeyman Geek

ah

Shadow Wizard

2:40 PM

ha

rene

@SomewhatMemorableName maybe that is untranslatable ....

Somewhat Memorable Name

And apparently I missed the announcement of change in pro-tem mods on jaSO last month: Unarist out, nekketsuuu in

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Q: 新モデレーター: nekketsuuuさん就任のお知らせ

私たちにとってはStack Exchange Network の全てのサイトが大切であり、各コミュニティーの成長を心から期待しています。しかしそれは弊社とコミュニティの橋渡しをしてくれるモデレーターの手助けがなければ達成できません。 Unaristはこれまでモデレーターとしてスタック・オーバーフロー日本語版を大きく牽引してくれましたが個人的な理由で退任することとなりました。スタック・オーバーフロー日本語版のモデレーターの統計をみると、コミュニティーが新しいモデレーターを必要としていることは明らかです。スタック・オーバーフロー日本語版はベータ版であるため投票による選挙を行うことができませ...

討議モデレーション

Shadow Wizard

@SomewhatMemorableName surely @Norm wouldn't have missed that..... :D

Somewhat Memorable Name

@ShadowWizard true... the ultimate SE news ticker has gone :(

Journeyman Geek

@SomewhatMemorableName I've seen him on the assembly

Shadow Wizard

2:46 PM

@JourneymanGeek under cover?

aka with some random name?

Thought he nuked all SE accounts this time, didn't bother to look to be honest.

Somewhat Memorable Name

He's still active on some sites under user4XX

Shadow Wizard

user404 would be cool

Journeyman Geek

The Assembly

You know those boring town council meetings you never attend? ...

2

rene

@SomewhatMemorableName flags post for being gibberish ...

Somewhat Memorable Name

>_<

rene

2:50 PM

user reported a strange rate limit here: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/311563/…

Somewhat Memorable Name

heh

in The Assembly on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, May 23 at 16:17, by user4412195

I suspect he doesn't... there is a mysterious 1-rep diamond aki, apparently an employee or at least a contractor who can help with Japanese translations.

Journeyman Geek

;)

Somewhat Memorable Name

err... how does the username on the onebox chosen? it's user665598 from OpenData.SE, but shown user4412195 here ._.

Norm's magic...

Shadow Wizard

@SomewhatMemorableName that's the name used when posting the message. He changed names since then.

Like he's been doing for.... years?

Somewhat Memorable Name

@ShadowWizard ah you're right, it's shown on the transcript.

@ShadowWizard but this time, he didn't change his name. He changed the parent site :|

He's using the default userXXX on most (all?) of the sites now...

Shadow Wizard

3:00 PM

@SomewhatMemorableName wrong

user6655984

107 1 3 6

real id is 6247

Probably just choosing random numbers to... fool around?

Somewhat Memorable Name

ugh... confusing userXXX is confusing...

Shadow Wizard

Best way to be anonymous around here, e.g. no idea who it really is, yeah.

Few will bother to dig in your past messages to find your past nick, or connect to what you said in the past.

This is the bot

chat.stackexchange.com/users/-401/localization-bot

Somewhat Memorable Name

@ShadowWizard apparently that's his SO user ID -_-

Shadow Wizard

Mystery solved!!

in Localization Of Stack Overflow, 5 mins ago, by Nicolas Chabanovsky

Aki helps as a lot with SOja. She is not a CM but has most of a CM access on the site.

/cc @Derpy ^

Stalking completed.

Somewhat Memorable Name

Stalking completed.

Catija

3:09 PM

Mischief managed

Somewhat Memorable Name

(now I have to comply with GDPR! resetting brain...)

Mgetz

@SomewhatMemorableName and people say Cyberpunk distopias are fiction...

Shadow Wizard

Got to go buy groceries... cya!

rene

@ShadowWizard bring some ice cream!

Shadow Wizard

@rene already have three (!) different kinds at home. If you want come over and I'll give some to you. :D

Now I'm really going!

Magisch

3:14 PM

icecream for flowers

.... frozen sunlight?

Shadow Wizard

Great, you scared poor OP away with your jetpack, @rene

:P

Now I'm really really going!

rene

@ShadowWizard Only three? My gelateria has 20 ...

Catija

I ate so much gelato those 8 weeks I spent in Italy... I probably shouldn't ever eat more again.

Magisch

I made the fatal mistake of not checking that the iced coffee I bought was actually decaf

It was not and I noticed only after binging on 6 cups of it

Catija

3:33 PM

So... no sleep tonight?

Kevin B

meh

Catija

@rene how possible is it to do a SEDE query to find out how many suggested edits people have by the time they reach 2000 reputation? I'm actually sort of curious if anyone has gotten the full 1000 reputation from suggested edits before they hit 2k.

Kevin B

well... it isn't possible to make a suggested edit after 2k, right?

so a count of suggested edits should be good enough

Catija

Actually, you can do them for Tag wikis.

They're both listed under "edit suggestions" on your profile page, so I'm not sure if they're tracked differently.

Kevin B

3:48 PM

ah, i wouldn't know, i have 0 suggestions in my profile :p

Anne Daunted

@Catija The anonymous editor might have.

Catija

But they don't get rep for it... which is the point.

rene

@Catija hmm, the reputation history is a bit of a hassle but let me see if I can put something together

Catija

Thanks :D

rene

@Catija a specific site you want to know it for?

Catija

4:02 PM

SO. I'm curious because of this: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/369870/…

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Back in late Spring, we posted “Stack Overflow Isn’t Very Welcoming. It’s Time for That to Change.” We know it’s all too common for companies to announce they really want to do a thing, and then… not much happens. So, it is time to share the work we’ve been doing behind the scenes and how our team of data scientists, developers, long term community managers, and UX specialists will continue iterating on our plans for the future.

This new workflow should help new askers craft questions more successfully with less stress. Each step gathers specific input that’s generally needed to help answerers. …

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Mgetz

Ironically the example in that blog of what to ask is a horrible example

Sorry Joe but that question would still get closed ASAP

Somewhat Memorable Name

At least somethings are done

rene

@Catija this is a start data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/865664 I'll still have to add the estimate for the reputation

Somewhat Memorable Name

4:17 PM

Honestly, it's been a long time for me to quickly open and read an SE blog post and had high expectation.

Instead of the unwelcoming blog post (quickly open and left with bitter feeling)

and the rest of SO Teams blog post etc (lazily open)

Catija

@Mgetz Isn't that just for the first part of the answer field? "Summarize the problem"... presumably moving through the other sections adds different details.

Mgetz

@Catija Overly broad thesis declarations in general result in over broad questions. There could be a thousand different places each for a different web framework. I'm trying to avoid nit picking that specific statement other than to say it's overly broad

Catija

Maybe I'm missing what you're talking about... the example in the yellow box with the green tick mark?

Mgetz

4:43 PM

@Catija yes

SmokeDetector

5:16 PM

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Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

5:47 PM

@AnneDaunted Nope. I'm almost done fully going through all the anonymous edits and seeing which ones are mine, but there are more than 300 and fewer than 400 approved edits. To hit the cap, one needs to make 500 non-deleted suggested edits.

@Catija Maybe I should change my name back to "Ano", so you know who I am.

Catija

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog ... ? Why do you think that I don't?

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

6:02 PM

@Catija Because you used words that implied you didn't.

Catija

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog No... I didn't. The entire point of my query to rene was users who get 1000 rep from edit suggestions. Anonymous users don't earn rep for edit suggestions... as such, the point about the Anonymous Editor (you) didn't really relate to my query.

Anne Daunted

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog I thought you might have been a good candidate because you wrote "Even if I started off with a totally new account, I would eventually gain enough rep to edit them directly." For sure, doesn't mean you gained that rep solely through suggested edits, but it could've been.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

6:19 PM

@AnneDaunted FAQ posts are Community Wiki, so I can get enough rep to edit them with just suggesting edits.

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