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Shadow Wizard

08:00

@Derpy well I am odd. :)

@TravisJ yummy! 😋

@JourneymanGeek about layoffs?

Derpy

@ShadowWizard ............

he forgot he had a bot running.

yep. Right.

that would be like me wondering why my account had just started giving out random cupcakes (don't try, the bot is no longer active)

Travis J

I seem to remember someone of interest being rather publicly outed at Stack Overflow once...

They were some sort of pirate

Somewhat Memorable Name

Pirating answers?

Magisch

@Derpy cupcake pls?

Somewhat Memorable Name

but I only played on NA server once

Derpy

08:13

Somewhat Memorable Name

though I heard the EU server and its management was a lot worse than the NA one

Magisch

@SomewhatMemorableName There was the whole controversy with them allowing unsanitized javascript in a chat message and the game client having a RCE flaw with that

Derpy

@Magisch ^ see above picture, you are a little late. About 3 years late :P

Journeyman Geek

@TravisJ only by name

DPR of silk road infame had and used a so account

Somewhat Memorable Name

@Magisch huh, first time I heard about that... dunno if it was like that when I played on NA. But yeah, the game client is so old that it's buggier on more modern computer...

Travis J

08:18

@JourneymanGeek Yup, wasn't very smart to use his real server addresses there.

Derpy

@SomewhatMemorableName do you prefer Diablo 3? The one that had online item auctions with real money exchanged... that you could time out and win by changing the date&time on your LOCAL machine?

Magisch

@Derpy d3 became obsolete when path of exile came out, anyways

Somewhat Memorable Name

Fortunately I haven't played Diablo 3? 🤔

Travis J

I liked d3, the real money ah practically paid you to play.

Somewhat Memorable Name

and no real money for me

Travis J

08:26

I think I made like $800 until they closed it

Derpy

@TravisJ didn't want to play online in the first place.

Travis J

I like the competition of online games :)

Magisch

I'm still full of salt over d3 being such a downgrade from d2

Derpy

@Magisch don't worry. D4 is officially in the works, ready to delude you again.

Travis J

I think yes and no. D2 was a lot of success, but the current form of d3, with the grifts, kanai's cube, and seasons, is pretty competitive I think

Magisch

08:30

@Derpy nah, I have path of exile now

that'll serve for the next 5000 hours :p

Travis J

I still have a character I play from time to time on my xbox. I am not allowed to play pc games anymore. Not really allowed to play xbox much either, it is packed up in the garage at the moment.

Magisch

@TravisJ The complexity and build diversity is 100% gone

Derpy

@Magisch considering that D4 is also rumored to be a mmorpg.... probably for the better.

Travis J

There isn't much build diversity by character in d3, its true.

Magisch

And there is no ceiling to how much you want to stack dps - so that's all it becomes about, more dps. That and the unique design make the game extremely formulaic

every class has maybe 2 viable builds and most of these are based on lining up every single ridiculous modifier to maybe do decent damage for 5s every minute

Travis J

08:31

Definitely a lot of formula tinkering going on, fps pairing and whatnot

Journeyman Geek

for some reason I never got into POE

aaaannddd

and D3 was meh

Travis J

The DH build I use will put out constant damage

Journeyman Geek

no more torchlight sequels :(

Magisch

poe doesn't have a learning curve so much as a learning skyscraper

Travis J

I like the simplicity of titanfall

Everyone get's the same thing, and you go hash it out in a small city-styled map.

Journeyman Geek

08:33

POE isn't as bad as some games

I sadly seem to do mostly FPSes these days

Derpy

oh, don't worry. No D3 for me. To be fair, currently I was planning to get a copy of.....

Darkest Dungeon. Yep, I know, I am going to regret that.

Journeyman Geek

looking forward to the new wolfenstein

Magisch

@JourneymanGeek eh, the learning curve is extremely steep

I have 470 hours in it and still feel like a complete noob

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch bunch of my friends are into 4x games...

Somewhat Memorable Name

Waiting for Borderlands 3...

Journeyman Geek

08:34

the tech tree drives me nuts

I just want to go kill things ;p

Somewhat Memorable Name

and Crash Bandicoot Trilogy on PC~

Journeyman Geek

got a friend who's fun in co-op

though I think nothing can top him playing SR3

Travis J

A friend of mine enjoyed playing through Darkest Dungeon.

I guess some people are more into playing a little bit of a lot of games. I kind of get more into playing a lot of just a few games.

Journeyman Geek

heh

I have a backlog

but not been in a mood for media lately ._.

Travis J

I like being on the top of the food chain :P giant.gfycat.com/FinishedDeliciousElkhound.mp4

Somewhat Memorable Name

08:37

... I don't want to see my list of games on my Steam ;_;

Derpy

@TravisJ oh, well, consider that I also play Disgaea.And Etrian Odyssey

Journeyman Geek

> FinishedDeliciousElkhound.mp4

0_0

oh

Travis J

lol I didn't come up with the name

Journeyman Geek

games, TV shows...

Travis J

@Derpy Hm, a lot of rpgs? Those look like fun, never heard of them though. One kind of looks like FF Tactics (which was an awesome game)

Somewhat Memorable Name

08:39

JRPG

Derpy

@TravisJ Disagea....? Basically FF Tactics.... Munchin version.

Somewhat Memorable Name

just... don't throw those Prinnies

Travis J

there is something enticing about turn based games

Sid Meier once told me "never underestimate the value of pure joy"

Derpy

To be fair.....

John Dvorak

unless your opponent decides to become a major PITA and always use up his allotted time per turn to the fullest extent.

Somewhat Memorable Name

08:42

playing Civ multiplayer in midnight???

Derpy

Source

Travis J

@JohnDvorak Yeah, that's no fun. Doesn't always happen though.

@SomewhatMemorableName I don't think I've played Civ in like a decade

Derpy

Based on Bartle, I probably fall in the low right quadrant

John Dvorak

Is there a name for the social law stating "there have always been dicks in the society"?

Somewhat Memorable Name

Last Civ series I had: Civilization 2 ...

and some of my friends could fall asleep while playing games

John Dvorak

08:45

Ooh, I've played Civ3. Enjoyed watching my throne room grow.

Single player only.

Travis J

@Derpy I try to be in the top right of that.

Somewhat Memorable Name

Yeah, I missed those Throne Room feature

Travis J

@JohnDvorak Civ3 was a lot of fun, the throne room was pretty epic

user310756

A documentary on Australian culture a must watch for any Aussie philes

Travis J

"Multi-player appeal to the Achiever"... guilty.

Somewhat Memorable Name

08:48

Stack Exchange the Game

looks like on the "Killers" quadrant...

Travis J

I guess to some degree that played out at Stack Exchange. Kind of different though, since you are getting rewarded for helping people, arguably something that would be done anyway.

John Dvorak

Anyways, I have to depart now. Barber -> lunch -> change clothes -> job interview.

Somewhat Memorable Name

@JohnDvorak oooh, good luck on the interview!

Travis J

^

Journeyman Geek

I think SE has a few of each

I know people who are rep focused (Achievers) and would do anything for ot

some folk are into the 'culture' of their sites (explorers)

and I'd argue many mods are socialisers

We don't really want killers ;)

Travis J

09:02

I try to get a decent amount of rep, but avoid burning out. For a long time I averaged 1k per month as a cap.

Still pretty close. 6 years, 7 months, 61k.

I also kept a 10k per year cap

Answering can require quite a bit of time.

Journeyman Geek

I'm kinda odd

I'm not burnt out on SU as a community

but I answer less stuff than I used to

Somewhat Memorable Name

To increase the daily rep cap, please become a Stack Exchange Premium Member...

Fabby

@πάνταῥεῖ enjoy! Being a remote worker, I don't have any of those perks, but OTOH, I have no traffic jams whatsoever driving to the office daily...

Derpy

> Downvote! No comment! Be glad I even wasted my time to downvote you, ye loser!

Wait, weren't we perfectly fine with those?

Travis J

I believe you will find those who "fight spam"

But the combative post actions, I really feel like that has gotten better since the blog post. Not sure if that is how other people feel, but that is what I have been noticing.

Journeyman Geek

09:16

On the short term, ya.

It's either people are more mindful, scared or both

Travis J

Yeah, well mindful would be good. Scared would be a tinder box though, which is possible. Hopefully no one doubles down on the message. I think we are in a good place at the moment.

Journeyman Geek

I was having a similar conversation elsewhere

I personally think that site (and chat) culture is a continuous process

While something like the summer of love can change things for a little, I'm not a fan of the occasional big push.

Derpy

yep, all is fine in Equality Town, all is fine....

Journeyman Geek

So... With the inclusiveness push... I'm more on the 'everyone should feel at home' boat. If someone is being toxic, it dosen't matter who it is to. It is unacceptable.

Travis J

Totally agree. However, the inclusiveness push managed to effect the grey area that is effectively impossible to moderate directly. I think that is where it had the most impact.

Journeyman Geek

09:25

I don't disagree with the intent

Magisch

I'm in sort of the same boat

If someone is being unhelpful and toxic that behavior needs to be corrected - it's just ... it feels like we run risk of misclassifying well intentioned housekeeping with gatekeeping

Journeyman Geek

But rather that if we're needing to make the grand guesture every so often... It means we're missing stuff

Travis J

Some stuff isn't really subject to moderation. Some users really did tone down their own behavior voluntarily.

Magisch

some also became a little more aware of their tone

not previously ill intentioned but a "can't see the forest for all the trees" kind of thing that comes with routine

Travis J

Yup

Derpy

09:30

yep, and we won a free pinata of drama (which, to be fair, probably has also something to do with the wonderful way the ToS thing was handled...)

Anonymized users! Lost users! Fun! Happiness!

Journeyman Geek

Ugh drama

Travis J

I didn't really understand the anonymized users thing. I mean, to each their own, I just didn't really get it.

Names are pretty anonymized anyway #JourneymanGeek :P

Gonna rename to CorrectHorseBatteryStaple

Journeyman Geek

The TOS thing, in my opinion kinds of got blown up a fair bit worse than expected

Magisch

mine was unrelated

Journeyman Geek

@TravisJ geek. :p

And my friends call me geek

Travis J

09:33

heh, total Freudian slip, I blame the hat on the dog head

hopefully it is a term of endearment

Journeyman Geek

@TravisJ people tend to attribute to laws whatever they need it to be.

Mithrandir

...I seem to have made some internet friends worried by writing something dark. o_o

Derpy

@JourneymanGeek when you receive a mail that tells you your opt out request has been processed correctly and the next day some staff member somehow implies in a comment that said request could hold no legal value.... yep, people tend to blow things up a little.

Martin James

@JourneymanGeek Unacceptable maybe, but are you in a position to fire Jay?

Somewhat Memorable Name

09:48

Darn, Heavy Rain.

Journeyman Geek

Well..... Literally no one you are talking to is a lawyer

@MartinJames hm. I was thinking more in terms of politely letting folk some things are unacceptable

Travis J

Meh, what do lawyers or judges know about the interwebs anyway.

I have a lawyer, he has no clue about ToS stuff.

Journeyman Geek

Not to mention this is in a different jurisdiction from where most of SE's staff is

And folks often use super emotive language with stuff like this

Derpy

sorry, lost you

Journeyman Geek

@TravisJ true. And that's a lot if the problem

@Derpy err. I got confused my bad

I mean none of SE's cms are lawyers.

Magisch

09:54

meh

where I live arbitration mandates are illegal anyways so ... water under the bridge

Journeyman Geek

And that stuff gets confusing fast

Magisch

I opted out anyways just for convenience and peace of mind but still

Travis J

Need sleep. Ugh, every day I seem to be needing sleep. Is this happening to anyone else? The horror. So much time wasted being motionless accomplishing nothing.

Magisch

@TravisJ beat the system: keep working while sleeping

I got the solution to a database design issue in a dream yesterday

Journeyman Geek

(I studied some law as a cyber security and management major)

Travis J

09:56

Will try. I did once dream up a graphics design that I still use. It was in a display panel on some sort of space ship thing.

Magisch

I dont even have a degree but I got voluntold to be DPO

Travis J

Although, more often than not sleep is full of too much random to be useful to anyone except a fiction writer.

Derpy

@Magisch Ten Million Fluttershys

also.....

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YAY! NEW FUN!

Please, can a passerby meteor just hit us and put an end to our "intelligence"?

will they someday understand that these kind of regulations are a little insane?

Somewhat Memorable Name

Well, simpler solution is to block EU again?

Derpy

10:11

I somehow still prefer the meteor one....

John Dvorak

Probably not a meteor. A global flood is also out of the picture after the last attempt (also, humans now have boats). Perhaps a good ole Kessler cascade might cause us some well-deserved headaches...

Somewhat Memorable Name

🇪🇺☄

(fails on Chrome...)

John Dvorak

But hey, at least we use SI

I am considering migrating to Swaziland, though, if EU messes up so hard they break the Internet.

But then again, I'd like to end up where I am now geographically when God decides to nuke Earth's governments, and not have to wait until transportation is available again. Family and such.

Derpy

10:32

This seems like something straight out of LifeHacks

Journeyman Geek

Or Alton brown, only he doesn't like single use tools

Derpy

even better:

The fasted DVD Rewinder!

Also probably the only one.

Magisch

@Derpy Idiots in suits think they can legislate technology into existance by fiat

"We will just require you to be 100% sure none of this is copyright infringement before you allow it to be uploaded"

"Well how could we possibly do that, you need a lawyer for single cases sometimes because copyright law is a mess" "Idk figure it out you're liable if you don't lol"

Mithrandir

11:03

I shudder to think what would happen with Scifi.SE and Literature.SE.

Half the entire Harry Potter series is probably reproduced on there by now.

Derpy

11:17

> Fahrenheit 2732 – the temperature at which hard disks glass substrate catches fire, and melts...

I think it should be pretty easy to get the reference.

Cilan

12:08

@ShadowWizard I just had a dream about that, funny

Shadow Wizard

13:12

@Cilan indeed! You seem to have... Grew up since those times... So how are you? Got a job? Still in touch with @Doorknob?

Cilan

13:52

@ShadowWizard I'm 17 my boy

But yes I should have a job but no am not getting

Doorknob goes to a different school but I still talk to him

Derpy

14:16

@ShadowWizard Congratulation! Now that he actually replied, all the users in the room will need to fill a data retention plan to be GDPR compliant!.

Somewhat Memorable Name

14:46

HAMMER... uh, never mind...

Kevin B

🔨

Derpy

in Shadow's Den, May 6 '15 at 14:55, by SPArchaeologist

@SweetieBot Could you remind ShadowWizard he should watch MLP:FIM?

Derpy

15:01

trust me, both @ShadowWizard and Droid know there are bot features far more annoying than HAMMERTIME.

Martin James

MILLERTIME?

Derpy

Go forth my army! Stop this meme now!

Yep, an army of Storm Troopers muffins for a Muffin. How appropriate.

Martin James

@Derpy lol

Journeyman Geek

@Derpy heh, one nearly got ours banned

Magisch

I missed my opportunity to name myself "Huggable Cactus" to go with the new profile pic

Journeyman Geek

15:16

alas

Magisch

You know your ava has made me consider actually getting a dog when I move

Journeyman Geek

He has that effect on people

Magisch

I'm firmly a cat person but I could go for a dog like yours

Feeds

"Buddy, you trying to pull something? I can't buy this gold--all the electrons are missing. I could face serious charges!"

Derpy

@Magisch So missed opportunities! So sad! Such losses!

Journeyman Geek

15:19

@Magisch he's the best little grumpy little senior citizen

Derpy

I, for one, still think @JourneymanGeek should switch his avatar to Doge

Magisch

I saw this on imgur and had to think of your dog journey: i.imgur.com/UTObI0i.gifv

Journeyman Geek

@Derpy I'm probably keeping ash as my ava until he permanantly retires

Magisch

And I was like I want that puppy

Journeyman Geek

hah

mini schnauzer crosses are the best ;)

Magisch

15:21

what a marvel we humans have wrought to get such nice companion animals

most dogs and cats are really loving too

Journeyman Geek

lol

Man adopted dogs, cats adopted man

the cats at work are kinda cute

Magisch

cats are still really loving usually

Journeyman Geek

very skittish but one was basically peeking out from behind a staircase at me

Derpy

@JourneymanGeek and dwarf.

Magisch

they just have different ways of expressing it

but yeah cats basically domesticated themselves by partaking in the mouse buffet and making themselves useful

Journeyman Geek

15:25

There's some dogs that are very independent

Magisch

my aunt has golden retrievers they're so loving

Journeyman Geek

There's a pair of shibas here. One is aloof, the other a cuddle bug

Catija

15:44

@Derpy Muffins? They look like marshmallows.

Magisch

shots fired

Catija

They're storm troopers. They can't hit anything.

rene

17:09

The flower has arrived

→ 8 messages moved to Chimney

SmokeDetector

17:26

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: What is the science (if any) behind bulletproof coffee? by somescepticaldude on coffee.SE

Magisch

@rene \o/

rene

17:47

;)

Martin James

Weres teh RoundUp?

Shog9

it's a RoundUp-Ready rene

Genetically-modified to withstand the harshest environments

Accept no imitations

Or Monsanto will sue you

rene

... Bayer ? ...

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

18:03

@Shog9 You do realize that the patent for Roundup Ready soybeans expired in 2014?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, username similar to website in answer: How do you disable the F1 key for whole system? by Shibe Kinder on superuser.com

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Shog9

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog doesn't matter

they'll send a team of lawyers

who'll surround you, menacingly

and you'll say, "patents expired!", mournfully

and they'll break your knees

</everythingiknowaboutmonsantoilearnedontwitter>

rene

Same lawyers did the SE ToS? It will explain a lot. I assume Tim needs his knees ...

TylerH

All you need to know about Monsanto is they patented the gene sequence of their seeds so you can't use them or any of their offspring ever unless you pay the patent/licensing fee

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