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hey
hey
00:23
@JourneymanGeek except curiosity?
anyway, morning...
user391243
hallo!
hey
hey
what's up, without diamond?
user391243
I have no diamond. I am graphite. I am a human being.
user391243
How's ya day goin?
hey
hey
almost time for morning coffee...
user391243
00:32
I am also drinking (instant) coffee overnight...
user391243
Did you mistake me as the Community user? I am actually mulliganaceous
hey
hey
Someone who starred your earlier post did...
Because the displayed name is cropped perfectly on here :)
user391243
Read my profile description.
02:49
@Shog9 Can you please revisit this issue and see if you can come up with a fix?
Looks like the bug in Google Analytics has solved. Only Area51 left.
Aah! puppets are back.
 
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07:21
13 messages moved to Chimney
@NogShine Area51 is always neglected
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog so, Sega has finally decided to do the game everyone was waiting for singe the Genesis era?
Sonic VS Muppets?
@SmokeDetector k
08:09
@Derpy No, one of their own took on it themselves.
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog I think that the Tails Doll was already officially recognized as honorary Muppet character...
08:27
email hidden in link "source" ^
@JNat not sure this time, but this user appears to be a spammer who was inactive for long time. Please see his "answer" on MSE, in the very least it's some troll, even if not spammer. What you think?
Won't be surprised if that user spammed in the past, can't really know though.
08:42
!!/welcome Alex
@ShadowWizard Welcome to Tavern on the Meta @Alex! I'm SmokeDetector, a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network, and posts alerts to chat. You can find more about me on the Charcoal website.
So polite.
!!/coffee Bart
@ShadowWizard brews a cup of Mocha for @Bart
//status
user359686
Started Wed, 30 May 22:31:25.0386 2018 CEST (GMT +0200) (running for 0 days, 12 hours, 12 minutes, and 30 seconds.)
Message status
Username:                                  - Message count
πάντα ῥεῖ (186472)                         - 371
Shadow Wizard (152859)                     - 276
Mgetz (226653)                             - 216
Catija (284336)                            - 178
hey (241919)                               - 159
Shog9 (811)                                - 153
Journeyman Geek (135565)                   - 130
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08:44
@πάνταῥεῖ how dare you be on top of me! :D
@PrincessLuna why doesn't it include users like @user134300? ^^
The bot's probably offline when they're online
It can only register while online, and there have been a few database losses (autosaving exists now though, should minimize the problem)
All though that's gotta be one hell of a chain of coincidences to repeatedly be offline when they're online
hey
hey
@PrincessCelestia hi
user359686
@hey How can I //help?
hey
hey
!!/welcome SmokeDetector
@hey Welcome to Tavern on the Meta @SmokeDetector! I'm SmokeDetector, a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network, and posts alerts to chat. You can find more about me on the Charcoal website.
08:58
@PrincessCelestia All though that says 12 hours and 12 minutes, which means I started it a little over 10, which should add up. The WS crashed on Twitch which blocked Discord from being initialized, I'd guess meta got blocked as well?
user359686
@PrincessLuna How can I //help?
hey
hey
... let me test this once, but I'll probably get kicked
!!/welcome PrincessCelestia
@hey Welcome to Tavern on the Meta @PrincessCelestia! I'm SmokeDetector, a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network, and posts alerts to chat. You can find more about me on the Charcoal website.
user359686
@SmokeDetector How can I //help?
user359686
@PrincessLuna Updated user status
08:59
To avoid infinite looping
09:25
@ShadowWizard Not more than mobile web
09:50
@NogShine much more. Unless you mean mobile apps?
@ShadowWizard Only mobile web.
@NogShine it got lots of work in recent years, and now with Responsive Design coming, it will become obsolete anyway.
@ShadowWizard well, I get the impression A51 has a ton of technical debt
e.g. mobile chat was plain horrible and unuseable, @balpha improved it a lot couple of years ago. Still not perfect, but x100 better than before.
and at some point, we'll reach near peak sites.
09:54
@JourneymanGeek debt?
It's just... behind.
@ShadowWizard basically so much old stuff piled up that any attempt to fix things will need a massive rewrite
aka, your Devs go EEEK! before your users
10:11
@ShadowWizard 6 to 8 years behind then ...
@JourneymanGeek yup
@rene yup
10:30
@Pëkka yup
10:41
Luring Pëkka back in?
Of course
10:57
^ does this count for luring both Infinite and Telkitty back?
@Derpy nope
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ too bad
Question: how do we report users who are using their profile to facilitate spam?
Rene Lopez, Atlanta, GA, United States
11 2
PM the site mods generally
Like, I can't see any way on their profile page to report them
I flagged their one post for moderator attention while stating that they're trying to sell sex dolls on their profile. I assume that's enough?
that should do good
11:03
Yes. That's how you do it.
@micsthepick PM? I'm not aware of any way to send private messages to other users, unless you mean flagging for moderator intervention
Well, now it's just waiting for the mods for Chinese Language to respond
in "The Sphinx's Lair", you can often find users pinging moderators with links to spam profiles
that is what I meant by PM
is that a chatroom on meta?
no, on main
in The Sphinx's Lair on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 2 hours ago, by Mithrandir
@Rubio https://puzzling.stackexchange.com/users/49693/fredglenn
however, raising a custom mod flag, where possible is a great option
but there isn't really any way to report someone when they haven't made a post yet, or when they have made a post but it's been moderated without the mod noticing the user is spam?
11:07
The Sphinx's Lair is the main Puzzling.SE chatroom. Generally, when a user has posts, it's better to raise a custom flag on the post. Pinging mods about issues is generally discouraged, but TSL is a but of exception.
Like, ideally it should be the entire network profile that should just be removed because I doubt they're going to turn from a spam user into a normal user
@Nzall Not really. It's not the biggest deal, either - there's no requirement to nuke the users, although it's helpful.
@Mithrandir Just moderating the posts leaves the user to later spam again, or even spam other sites
and I also don't really see a reason to keep pure spam users around
Especially when they're using their bio and website fields to spam
@Nzall that's not a spam user. The one answer that user posted appears to be legit. Profile is indeed spammy and NSFW and should be reset by a moderator, but as long as the user won't put the spam back there or post spam answers/questions, it's fine.
People can claim Jon Skeet is spammer because he advertise his book in his profile.
Profile can be used to advertise your own products. But not when it's NSFW or abusive for others.
(in my opinion)
why do I get a feeling this is appropriate to post?
11:14
hehe
@Nzall don't bother, reported abusive account picture/avatar about 1 month ago, still pending.
Until they create a better way to report them, it is not worth the time. You will only clog an already clogged queue
@Derpy reminds me of my custom flagging on MSE
MSE too, I guess?
@ShadowWizard gone; thanks
@ShadowWizard yep
@JNat cheers!
@JNat while you're here and since you're... well... responsive, can you please reset this profile to get rid of the NSFW stuff in there? Thanks! (site mods might take some time until they notice the flags.) (same with their SO Profile, others are fine)
11:20
@ShadowWizard seems to be their only activity; deleted the answer, and cleared sessions. If you stumble upon any further similar behavior, lemme know and I'll nuke it
@JNat thanks!
oh you reset already, coool. :D
@Nzall you can keep an eye over that Lopez, and if NSFW spam is back, next step should be suspending or nuking the account.
hehe, just thought of something. @JNat is like a Joker in cards game. Each site got its own Ace cards, but JNat is the joker above them all. :P
Well, we all oversee all sites, so... ;P
we're all jokers, I guess
Joker Team!
Finally, proper character to put instead or in addition to diamond for a CM: 🃏
oh, so small. Will need bigger font.
hey
hey
11:36
I want to subtly spam on my profile...
@hey go ahead!
loading flag in canon
@hey so, what will be your next name?
Back to your real self? :/
@JNat Please, update your avatar:
hey
hey
@ShadowWizard still dunno...
I remembered I had an idea back then, but then I forgot since I still had to wait 4 days
@ShadowWizard you said he is a "joker", then the avatar should reflect that. Red Joker Noise form, to be precise
11:40
@hey you can find somebody else to play that game with... though these days only Jeremy appears to change name often. :(
hey
hey
hm.. something about being "exclusive"..? I think I'll check the saved image for next avatar on my home computer later...
Initiating Finalized Noise will transform Mega Man to either Black Ace or Red Joker, depending on the version that is being played
@hey hmm? What saved image?
Since Jeremy now use White as avatar, you can use Black. And decode his username somehow. ;)
Red Joker is better.
@JNat in more ways than one
12:16
!!/tea yagmoth
@ShadowWizard brews a cup of lemon tea for @yagmoth
oh lemon!
rlemon?
Lemon written with R language
Tempted to start a new bug: "Lemon is too sour". :D
@ShadowWizard Actually, Lemon and Sour are separate characters.
12:25
@Derpy do both appear here?
depends. Neither of them would have an official pony counterpart.
@ShadowWizard "Closed whiskey not defined"
@Derpy oh
@Mgetz lol
lemon tea, cool :), hehe
13:24
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: Why is beat described as a "relatively slow amplitude-modulation of oscillation"? by stuart on physics.SE
@JourneymanGeek ಠ_ಠ
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Joker face? ^
Better than Poker Face.... :D
13:41
(... discovered some days ago that Kotobukiya will make some MLP figures. Can't really say what I think about that. )
Looks like they already do. (i.e. not "will make" :))
14:05
@ShadowWizard not out yet.
And yep, I am wondering if they will indeed use the anime design from the fan made art they referenced.
If I remember correctly, the same artist did designs for all the mane six, including one for Twily. Also again if I remember correctly, the Twily one was based on the old "human Twilight should be asian" theme (don't ask why someone had that idea. I don't know. Maybe the hair style?) and therefore would probably end up in a weird figure of Twilight with almond-shaped eyes.
@Derpy tbf the equestria girls didn't help this
@Mgetz ? Equestria Girl is still flash based. Most characters reuse the same body puppet model so every member of the mane seven has the exact same body / face shape.
There are some difference in the eye shape, but they are mostly to be found in the eyebrows (except for Fluttershy eyes, which probably are the odd ones in the group)
It is not like anything in Twilight official EG suggest she should be considered to have Asiatic face features
@Derpy asian, not asiatic
As with Oriental, the use of Asiatic in referring to the peoples and cultures of Asia sounds conspicuously dated in contemporary American English, tending to evoke the prejudicial and offensive stereotypes of an earlier era. The preferred ethnic term is now clearly Asian. In most other contexts, however, as in Asiatic Russia or the Asiatic elephant, the term remains a neutral geographic descriptor that need not automatically be replaced with Asian
Think you said it properly before, why Asiatic in last message? (Just wonder :))
14:20
@ShadowWizard because firefox spellchecker is too eager to help
oh... burn it with fire then. ;)
and now it is to late to fix
nah it's not that bad, it's obvious you didn't know.
also, English is not my first language, so I didn't even know there was a difference
oh, well, at least I learned something.
@Derpy I knew it's different, but not how exactly until I looked for this now. So we both learned. :D
14:23
that said, back to the original topic - yep, I don't know why someone started the Asian Twilight thing.
hey
hey
PPG Z...
@Derpy appears to be personal initiative/opinion of some fans, e.g. miirkat.deviantart.com/art/Twilight-Sparkle-264033008
@hey I think that the PPG Z design was based on a fan made comic cross over between Dexter Lab and the PPG.
(which indeed looks asian ^^)
hey
hey
Oh, never mind, Asian Twilight reminds me of...... uh... erm.... Stocking....
14:29
Some related reddit discussion: reddit.com/r/mylittlepony/comments/12v2an/…
hey
hey
cue 'You're so uncouth'...
@hey first Google result: (only Asian Twilight!)
Justin Jitae Chon (born May 29, 1981) is an American actor, director, and YouTube personality. He is best known for portraying Eric Yorkie in The Twilight Saga film series, for his critically acclaimed 2017 film Gook, and for being a member of the K-pop parody group Boys Generally Asian. == Early life == Chon was born in Garden Grove, California and raised in Irvine, California. Chon is of Korean descent. His father, Sang Chon, was an actor in South Korea, and later a shoe store owner in Paramount, California. His mother is an accomplished pianist. Chon attended University High School, followed...
@hey nah, this is beyond uncouth, be glad Derpy didn't flag.... yet... :)
Anyway, can't beat The Twilight Saga film series, not a fair fight. But adding "pony" solves this. :)
hey
hey
Who doesn't want to watch The Twilight Pony Saga film series!?
I am fully aware of that anime series. But I shall add that "reminds me of" is to be considered invalid whenever anime come in discussion.
The clones are many.
hey
hey
well, only from the color theme and hair (I'm shortsighted)
14:37
@hey me. ;)
^ should say all.
hey
hey
oh yeah, a poor asker...
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Q: Did "Fairy Tail" plagiarize "One Piece"?

DanielAs shown in the following pictures, there are so many similar scenes/character designs with One Piece: Isn't this considered plagiarism?

At least they didn't notice that Lucy stole Colette dress. Or the opposite. Don't know which existed before.
@hey I'm not sure copyright wise it matters if they did, quite a lot of japan is fiscally integrated. The old joke is Japan Inc.
@Mgetz that said, it would be interesting to see if Shanks "pressure" haki technique pre-date the Fairy Tail Gildarts return to town scene.
14:45
It's pretty much the same situation in large part in the US music industry. The lack of a public domain of contemporary music means that everybody is technically infringing on everybody. But because the industry is owned by a few major players it doesn't matter because they aren't going to sue themselves.
because if that is not the case... Oda returned the favor.
See what I just said... it likely doesn't matter anyway
Never said it mattered.
@ShadowWizard argh, that was at "What is Hermione Granger's ethnicity?" levels.
Not really trusting anything in those arguments.
The only thing that would make sense would probably be Asian Pinkie.
Because Shibuya / Akihabara / Harajuku
I understand nothing in this room today. It's like trying to follow the Ruby room transcript.
!!/welcome Oded!
14:56
@ShadowWizard Welcome to Tavern on the Meta @Oded!! I'm SmokeDetector, a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network, and posts alerts to chat. You can find more about me on the Charcoal website.
@Derpy which is good or bad?
Dunno what you are talking about, @Shog9 - it makes perfect sense.
o/ everyone
@Shog9 Recap: your chatroom was ponified while the staff wasn't looking and now the chat room topic is MLP
@Shog9 Pony Yourself and you'll get it all
14:57
@ShadowWizard probably a little too overthinking, even for me.
One Piece vs Fairy Tail? Should get on with times and check out My Hero Academy or someting :P
@Oded knew there's a pony hidden inside you! :D
hey
hey
too many musid ID requests from My Hero Academy and Tokyo Ghoul:re...
heh. Been rewatching Bleach recently. Forgot how good it was.
@Oded you too.
14:59
@hey Tell them that if they want those queues, they have to take the close vote and pending edit queues too.
@MartinJames Oh, that is not a bad idea. We simple send the SO close vote review tasks to all sites in the network.
hey
hey
Hi
Hi
Hi
15:12
🚽
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N'Cha!
ah, good to see you again @Oded. Its been a while
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^ and with this one @ShadowWizard I am officially of to search a picture of Sci Twilight dressed as Arale.
15:36
Oh! Hey, Oded! :D YAY!
status-not-yellow-enough
Yellow?
^ I will let my student @ShadowWizard answer this one.
15:47
come on, @ShadowWizard, time to show what you learned at Friendship School.
@Derpy This is confusing on so many levels.
oh, don't worry. Just associating the word "Yay" with Fluttershy
And 'Shy is indeed yellow.
On an unrelated notice....
To whoever sent an opt-out mail that didn't contain his/her full name and info: you may want to follow this. Perhaps it is just me, but it sound somehow worrisome
opt out from?
Arbitration
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A: To refuse arbitration, give us your name and address

Tim PostWell, you can't sue someone anonymously, or even ask them to arbitration anonymously. If a legal action from Jonathan Q. Public is initiated, we'd need to be able to check if Jonathan had indeed opted out. This gets particularly mucky because I want to help here, but I can't offer you legal advi...

ah
tbh that sounds like common sense to me
16:03
maybe, but if Tim said before "just add your profile link, we will do the rest", I would hope they would cross reference my info they already have from my login info, swag data and such.
It seems that it may be not the case.
So I am warning people that a second mail could be needed
@Derpy You're assuming a lot, though... my account doesn't have my real name associated with it anywhere.
Hello,
Your request has been processed, and there's nothing else needed on your part. Let us know if you need anything else.
Regards,
Stack Overflow Team
Considering that my mail ended with....
@Derpy that actually sounds scary
Please, let me know if further details are needed or if I need to take any other action.
cause literally swag shipping information is used to ship swag and nothing else.
and until a point I actually think they used your username...
16:05
It is so unpolite from me to think that should they have needed some data I forgot to add they would ask for it?
anyway, having to go for now. Later.
@JourneymanGeek And they ask for it every time, so it's not even clear that they keep it on file anywhere.
Well, they literally need just enough to know who you are, in terms of the site, and legally.
@Catija yup
Dragged away for work... and now, heading home...
Laters all
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16:29
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@Catija I'd expected PC would answer with that: /o\
@JourneymanGeek is that... zardoz?
....X wing?
I thought a few of your co-workers were somewhat... traumatised by Zadoz?
I'm not hep to all your funky symbols
@JourneymanGeek you misspelled "enamored"
@Shog9 Not the impression I get, no
16:34
extreme admiration can be difficult to handle
I wasn't sure how to parse the part in the middle...
arm with a gun
Like the teachers?
I was trying to see it as a dog...
sometimes it overflows the integer
naw, ^^ is as close to a ASCII dog emote that I go
16:38
I see nothing in it but that is mere my lack of imagination ...
and the fact that you're a flower
Some flowers have eyes...
as do most potatos
Like the Black-eyed Susan:
@Catija Interesting Rudbeckia is called the same as what I know that to be:
16:47
My favorite flower is the rene flower....
Methinks it's an oxeye daisy
They seem to have a lot more petals than the five on rene's flower.
I once guessed rene's might be jasmine. But it's too blurry :P
I thought rene's a out of focus daisy
naw, not jasmin
@πάνταῥεῖ Flowers, the only safe for work reproductive organs you can display on your desk
the petals are pointy, and they never have the yellow centre
16:53
Google Images really wants it to be a plumeria... but it's not.
We could place a question at SE Gardening and Landscaping :3
@πάνταῥεῖ IIRC that has already been done.
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Q: Should "Very Low Quality" flags be offloaded entirely to tag experts?

Tim PostSome of the Stack Overflow moderators were having (yet another) discussion about what makes "not an answer" fundamentally different from "very low quality", since the prior implies the latter in a significant number of cases. Since Stack Overflow can easily hover at close to a thousand pending fl...

Relevant to some recent conversations here...
Ooof.
@rene I'd suspected so :D
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