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Hello, short question: if I open a CV review question in a new tab and then edit it, will it still be kicked out of the queue? (wasn't in the help center)

Catija

What do you mean by "kicked out of the queue"?

Gaurang Tandon

sorry, I meant not being available to review anymore in the CV queue

Catija

1:10 AM

For you or someone else?

hichris123

@GaurangTandon meta.stackexchange.com/questions/162034/… suggests the answer is yes, but I'm not entirely sure.

Gaurang Tandon

for everyone, just like it happens when you click the Edit button present in the CV review UI

@hichris123 hmm, nice link! it doesn't still mention editing in new tab though :(

hichris123

@GaurangTandon Yeah, my assumption was that the post was referring to editing the post from outside the queue, but I can't tell if that's correct.

Gaurang Tandon

@hichris123 yes, but that link has helped me for the time being. so thanks!

Catija

That's somewhat disappointing... I've seen a lot of users make just textual/grammatical fixes to a bad question - a valid edit - but it's not really "fixing" the question. I don't really agree that should remove it from the queue. If the edit is actually useful, the rest of the reviewers should see that and vote "leave open", so it should drop out of the queue anyway.

yagmoth555

1:17 AM

I just discoved smokey webportal report, it's really nice

Gaurang Tandon

@Catija yep, that's what I think as well

Catija

I'll also say that I had no clue that editing would do that, so now I feel guilty for slowing down the close process on questions that needed it... it makes me less interested in editing and I'm a pretty high-volume editor.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Catija Have you considered reviewing it, then going out of the queue to make the edit?

Catija

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog That's what we're talking about... there's no indication that only edits in review have this effect.

Gaurang Tandon

@Catija i'll probably keep an eye out the next time I do an edit outside the CV review UI

and get back here with the results

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

1:23 AM

A bit unrelated: I don't like Peter Mortensen making just grammar edits to questions within five days of closure, as it sends them to the reopen queue; that creates extra work for us and deprives the post author of their chance to get the post reopened

Catija

I wonder if I can check histories on one of the sites I mod.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

Review histories?

By the way, how did you get RO privileges? Did Shog just give them to you, or did you ask somewhere?

Shog9

@GaurangTandon No. Only edits from within the close queue dequeue.

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog eh. He fixes everything he can, everywhere.

Shog9

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog it's a drop in the ocean

silly to worry about it

Journeyman Geek

1:25 AM

There is a certain value in that.

Gaurang Tandon

@Shog9 oh, thanks, that solves it!

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Frustrating on time tracking by George Mihailoff on softwareengineering.SE

Catija

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog You were prodding about it yesterday (I think) and I made a comment about it... but I was as surprised as anyone else.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

Yeah, I've always wanted it so I could see deleted Smokey messages for context, since my proposal to not delete those messages failed

By the way, did you vote in that poll?

Catija

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog No.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

1:33 AM

@Catija If you did vote, which option would you have preferred? goo.gl/forms/7oDpj2bF2kUoOpp53

Catija

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog I'd really like you to stop pestering me about this.

This is the third time.

At least.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

No point, because the poll is already closed in favor of keeping the status quo.

Catija

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Then WHY are you pestering me if it doesn't matter?

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

(I just opened it so you could see it)

I didn't ask you to vote, I just asked you a curious question

Catija

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Just say "Sorry, I won't"... and stop arguing please. I'm pretty sure that we've asked you multiple times to stop trying to justify your actions when people ask you to stop.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

1:42 AM

Alright, sorry, I won't. I'll tell you what was going on in my mind: you asked "why", so my natural inclination is to take it literally and answer that question.

Catija

11 mins ago, by Catija

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog I'd really like you to stop pestering me about this.

The "why" was rhetorical.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

I'll be honest: I've had a lot of trouble telling these types of questions apart. Also, occasionally, my judgment is clouded when I feel that a person shouldn't be feeling angered or pestered about something I did.

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog which is a lot of the time

Shog9

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog you have that last thing in common with a LOT of people on meta right now

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

And that exact same dialog has happened with me in real life as well.

Shog9

1:56 AM

also a lot of employees... mods... Probably some small furry animals from alpha centauri

Sterling Archer

I hear hamsters originated from there

Shog9

Original Hampster Dance circa 1997 (hamsters dancing online)... and peek at the new

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Sterling Archer

Oh my god 1997?

user202362

begs the question whether the origin of octopus is indeed alien

Shog9

Yep. The baby whose mother played Hampster Dance 24/7 for 9 months is nearly able to take their first legal drink. And boy are they ready for it.

Sterling Archer

2:02 AM

New archer is on :D

Catija

@SterlingArcher Last week was good.

for a first episode where all the characters had to be introduced...

Sterling Archer

I was a little confused but the season premise has me excited

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

Now, since we're in the presence of a sufficiently mixed crowd, if anyone wants to head to Sonic's Den, I can discuss the specific issues I've been facing and problems that I think need fixing here on SE.

Also @Catija I'll be honest with you: the main reason I wanted to meet up with you again is because I feel like I have no one to talk to about my feelings about inclusivity and how I've been feeling a bit marginalized here. But I understand that you don't have much time for that on your hands.

(So I won't ask you about it)

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Does "Bad Ass!" have a positive or negative meaning? by Lori Pluto on english.SE

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

In the meantime, here's another instance of me just being me:

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A: A New (2018) Update To Our Terms Of Service Is Here

In section 10d, there is a typo: "Modifictions":

user202362

2:19 AM

How to utilize self love - building constructive backlinks by strategically talking about various companies on social media.

user202362

I am very happy these two day - life is like real life chess game, strategies I put in place years or months ahead has starting to show new effectiveness. I estimated the success rate has increase from 8% to 13%. With more careful planning and effort I might even win! P.S. I am not talking about Stackoverflow or SE.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

Here's one way the arbitration clause is abusive: if Stack Overflow massively screws up and, say, leaks every bit of personal data it has on anyone through gross negligence, joining a class action lawsuit against them would be free. With the arbitration clause, we would have to individually go through arbitration, which looks like it would cost each of us at least $250 per person just to initiate. They're basically invulnerable that way. They have much less incentive to uphold their responsibilities. — user2357112 7 mins ago

Shog9

well, you know how chess goes... One day you're winning, the next day a cat has jumped on the board and your pieces are all on the floor.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Shog9 That's how many users feel about the new 4-month closing policy on Area 51 being applied retroactively

user202362

that's for inferior chess players ... cat is calculated as part of external environment

user202362

2:28 AM

also, strategy planning is like sailing - you can't control the wind, but as long as you got the prediction of general direction right, you can always do micro adjustment

user202362

2:41 AM

I am talking about 3 totally different things, 3 totally unrelated things. Has good brain and education is great!

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

I've just mailed in my arbitration opt-out letter. Will those who mail in opt-outs get a response in the mail?

Shog9

We should have a badge or something. A companion to "not a robot" - mail in your letter, get an "I am not a lawyer" badge

user202362

2:59 AM

So the letter from TGA (Therapeutic Goods Administration Department of Health) ends with:

user202362

This response is general information given to you without prejudice; it is not
binding on the TGA and you should get your own independent legal advice to ensure
that all of the legislative requirements are met.

user202362

talking about getting sued ...

user202362

3:28 AM

哈士奇吵架就是和别的狗不一样，是这样子的！

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user202362

hilarious - husky quarreling with a samoyed

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

3:46 AM

@Shog9 Real answer please

@Shog9 Could you please clear the migration history on meta.stackexchange.com/questions/309752/…? It was an ephemeral issue that should be closed as no longer reproducible, but if it gets closed, it will become a rejected migration