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1:42 AM
Today's a holiday and I woke up earlier than the usual working days...
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2:49 AM
Is there a way to query SEDE for answer to question ratio for each site on the network?
Codegolf doesn't really count as it's not Q and A
So, IPS wins by A/Q ratio, followed by WB.
... So IPS WINS!!!
Note: this is from Posts, not PostsWithDeleted.
3:02 AM
Yeah, only the CMs can see that, I think? If it included deleted posts, I have a feeling I'd be even more scared.
No, I could do that but wasn't sure this is what you wanted.
I'll make another version with deleted.
Interesting that CS Educators followed after IPS and WB...
Or (the seemingly dead) LH
On the other end, Health, Stats, Blender and rec sites are the only ones with A < Q.
Surprised about Blender, I thought it was doing great.
3:05 AM
@SFTP Ah. There's good and bad... sites that collect a lot of spam will throw it off, probably... but sites with a lot of deleted answers... It's the problem with pure data... what it tells you is uncertain.
@Catija With deleted included, WB is ahead of IPS. data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/832993/…
But this also counts unanswered questions, right?
All Q and all A, regardless of status.
@HTTPS Probably because there are no questions there
3:06 AM
2206-1591... that's a lot of deleted questions.
Is that really right? Eesh... 618 deleted questions.
1865 deleted answers.
When you have 10K, the query deleted posts by score can be of interest.
(I know mods can search directly, so that doesn't really add to that.)
In case anyone is interested, this one only counts answered questions data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/832995/…
@SFTP It's more sortable, though.
@HTTPS But still includes closed ones, I assume?
@HTTPS Changes little for IPS and WB, where everything is answered.
3:13 AM
@Catija yeah
The condition in the query is AND AnswerCount>0
Well, it would exclude closed 0-answer questions, which I don't think count in the 100% answered ratio?
@SFTP I was more interested in the worst one :p
1552 instead of 1591, so 39? not much, I guess.
Thanks for the help! Great info. :D Sleepy time now.
Still surprised by the Blender stats (A < Q), because by % answered it's doing okay: 72%, better than SO and many others.
3:18 AM
Apparently, most questions get 1 answer, which gets upvoted/accepted. Efficiency.
On the other hand, PPCG is soaring in terms of answers per question
Yes, but those are not really Answers to Questions.
3:40 AM
@SmokeDetector Free NAA flags, because SE looks like a forum
4:00 AM
Looks weird.
4:11 AM
@SmokeDetector mystery solved...
with such click-baity title, there's a potential of getting into HNQ...
or... nah... upvote has stopped :)
HNQ doesn't bring "I also have this problem with my phone" by itself.
@SFTP lol!
5:35 AM
@SmokeDetector Now the subject of a meta post, What is up with these answers? Are these all the same people?
5:49 AM
@SFTP answered. AT&T. It's always AT&T...
@SonicWizard ah but I also cast the first stone closevote
@JourneymanGeek Damn. Didn't manage to get my RC flag in first. Anyone else want to mark it helpful?
don't you need a mod for that?
@JourneymanGeek As soon as one person votes to close a question that has a pending RC flag, that flag is marked helpful. RC flags are not shown to moderators.
6:31 AM
can't help then ;)
6:47 AM
rc flag?
recommend closure
oh, man, when I was that rep questions just closed themselves and we had a lot more fun
I think I used to flag for closure on SU
7:27 AM
Is there a flag for "KILL IT WITH FIRE"?
Depends on whether you need the normal or extra spicy sort
Normal fire will suffice.
answer? question?
A now deleted answer.
7:43 AM
someone pressed it then
It went something along the lines of "In forgot quantitative when banana magnetism uphill buoyancy" except mine was more witty.
I NAAed that one
I abusived it, because it was trolling.
also works
Trolling is only allowed in burninate request titles.
7:45 AM
I prefer to refer to that as smartassery over trolling
Can't del vote that.
@JourneymanGeek Sometimes they are the same.
but there's quality
Trolling isn't always malicious.
Except for youTube comments.
and there's something that sounds like Ivanova's Minbari.
7:47 AM
@TravisJ It scored -3 or lower, and it's closed. Can't 20k+ users immediately vote to delete? (10k+ users have to wait 48 hours after closure to delvote.)
@SonicWizard Already voted to delete it a long time ago :P
@TravisJ ...saying you can't do it gives others the wrong idea
It totally does. Sorry.
done the downvotes
7:48 AM
someone else needs to do the creme de ment... I mean coupe the grace.
heh, techmoan?
@JourneymanGeek Yep, you should go watch other videos in that playlist. Basically, the story is that that puppet just corrects insignificant errors in others' YouTube videos.
If I wanted pedantry, I'd go on MSE ;p
@JourneymanGeek You mean...pedancy?
7:56 AM
That video sucks.
Link me a parody next time.
If I was going to use a dialtone I would have at least stopped at the point gravity stops near the north pole. Not that you can get there on this flat planet!
But whatever, whot was the 5th point of that video? It makes me not want to watch videos anymore.
I can't haz type more of this.
@JourneymanGeek You're a quick learner.
8:08 AM
@TimPost I'm still very curious about out trend of off-topic posts. I'm thinking of restarting the survey I was using, since it's been a long time since you updated the official post on this topic.
@SonicWizard eh, I suspect that is simply low traffic + ease of finding the site when you're locked out of SO
also, I don't think people who post crap are likely to be receptive to anything but a solid beating closing.
Which "official post"?
@TimPost pinging you about a (minor) bug in Teams. The 'read' indicator for Teams badges in the achievement dialog (i.e. the disappearance of the light blue background) gets reset every time you reload the page: imgur.com/a/2tuo8
8:23 AM
@JourneymanGeek Removing content at such a high rate does seem to produce overall better content being preserved.
@TravisJ well, It would be better not to have that content at all, but this is a 'cheaper' alternative
Yeah, but that gets into predictive behavior, something which is essentially impossible at the moment. All we can do is retroactively remove bad content and bad content producers.
But I don't think the sort of life choices that leads one to spew programming questions everywhere they don't belong leads one to fill up surveys over said life choices.
8:42 AM
My first declined flag for the year appears to have been thanks to a mod mistake... (flagged a comment as no longer needed and it was deleted anyway)
A mod mistake?! Grab the pitchforks! To meta!
8:57 AM
@JourneymanGeek I'm confused:
What's that gotta do with me?
@JourneymanGeek You're good at cultural references...I just wanted to see if that contained one.
why not ask the people at charcoal?
Its literally their culture
It means "a snack"
Not sure how that relates to the question itself though.
I vtc as unclear since it needed more info to be able to provide an answer.
9:14 AM
@Shog9 - This seems to be in your realm of investigation: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/365327/1026459
I hope that didn't make a text noise from his phone in the middle of the night.
When chat pings become RL pings...

Shog's 9 Rules of Pinging

Feb 4 at 19:49, 8 minutes total – 11 messages, 1 user, 6 stars

Bookmarked yesterday by Sonic Wizard

I try not to ping shog at all really, he is a busy guy. But every once in a while something really stands out to me and I think he might be interested in it.
Anyway, probably past my bedtime, happy Good Friday :)
@TravisJ To be honest, I was a much more frivolous pinger at that time compared to now
9:35 AM
Technically luncheon meat is something that's not spam...
maybe ham, but still processed meat.
@SonicWizard you're still pretty frivolous ;p
9:48 AM
@TravisJ 'happy' Good Friday? Doesn't that kinda... Defeat the point of 'Good Friday' :P
Every Friday is good
10:17 AM
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: What is a "pseudo mannequin"? by PicsRetouch on photo.SE
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eh, profile spammer
Adding business in profile is spamming?
Its a spammer I recognise?
far better than other kinds of profile spamming that rest unhandled.
@Derpy just for you, I'll nuke a baker's dozen.
FWIW, there's been no new insurance spammers in a few months
11:46 AM
And I now have a den too...
(by the way, this is a very rare instance: the user who posted that OT question has the association bonus; they have nearly 1,000 rep on SO and active accounts on multiple SE sites)
I get confused to why folk from india expect people to get Lakh (not lack) and Crore
@JourneymanGeek Having traveled to India over many years, I can tell you that people in certain areas are just...completely unaware of the international system. I once owned a 5th-grade ("standard V") math workbook from there, and it spent a mere page over the international system, while the entire rest of the book was in the Indian system
that was vaguely complainy rhetorical.
12:01 PM
What I said
I thought what I said was worth saying.
@JourneymanGeek yep, insurance. The last ones I saw were far more "uncouth"
Once upon a time there was a valiant knight. He would travel across the land, clad in shining armor, fighting brigands and others nor-do-well in the name of harmony.
One fateful day, the knight went to the castle to meet the king and finally bring all the foes he captured to justice. "If I am lucky I will even get a medal", he was thinking as he approached the castle gates. He rang the bell and patiently waited for the gate guards to reply. He waited and waited, but no one answered his plea.
Finally, about 6-8 hours later, a loud voice was finally heard as a dragon-like head appeared from
@ShadowWizard ^ see above.
12:18 PM
so is species mutation/evolution correlated with ambient radiation?
@Derpy huh. Nice! adding @Derpy to the List of Writers :D
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ also, please notice that Telkitty popped into existence just after my last message.
I lost my day...
Tinfoil Hat intensifies.
made to drive family friends around
12:25 PM
@rene You should get KennyBOT up and running in Sonic's Den
@Derpy we want romance, where is that fat princess who dragon thought was food on legs?
I think 'Snowwhite and 50 shades darker' is a grabbing headline
@Sonic better put link to the new Den in the old Den which is closed now. :)
12:36 PM
@TelKitty wish granted.
Toriko (トリコ) is a Japanese manga series written and illustrated by Mitsutoshi Shimabukuro. It was serialized in Weekly Shōnen Jump from May 19, 2008 to November 21, 2016, with the chapters collected into 43 tankōbon volumes by Shueisha. It follows the adventures of Toriko, a Gourmet Hunter, as he searches for rare, diverse foods to complete a full-course meal. On his journey, he is accompanied by a timid chef who wants to improve his skills. A short film was created by Ufotable for the Jump Super Anime Tour 2009, with another created for the 2010 tour. The manga has also been adapted into an anime...
Ignore the last link, that was a false start. I have my own Den now:

Sonic's Den

If you have time to worry, then run!
@SonicWizard eeewwww, the current code base doesn't support being in two rooms and the simplest hack would be to run 2 instances but that would defeat the carefully designed and implemented throttle-prevention. If that fails not only will the bots no longer be operational, but I would have locked out my self from SE network as well.
we ❤ bjbotling
@rene No problem, TBH I ignore KennyBOT in Shadow's Den
1:10 PM
@Glorfindel Forwarded it to the teams team
@SonicWizard We're going to do an engagement survey for sure, just remains when we'll launch it (currently up in the air about what survey vendor we're going forward with, which is a bit of a wild internal debate as individual teams have their own likes and needs)
swag ... still no swag ... and Apr fools day falls on Easter (so no delivery until next Tuesday the earliest)
@TelKitty maybe you're one of the last 15
I'm starting to get stream of upvotes on "US Department of Defense targeting iPhone users" question... curious if it's shared on somewhere...
1:25 PM
that's still open?
thanks @TimPost
@HTTPS Where is that question asked?
put tinfoil hat AT&T is sharing data to the US DoD
Kotaku does an interview with Yoko. Obviously, they don't ask him anything about that line they dropped a month ago about Nier last secret.
I only read a headline that the creator of Nier might be broken. Didn't read the content though
1:29 PM
Smart they are indeed. Or more probably, the guy doing the interview didn't even know.
@HTTPS Well, he is indeed weird.
Wonder what kind of game would see the light if he was to team up with Suda...
I'm slightly confused by the downvotes on someone elses answer on meta meta.stackexchange.com/a/308523/135565
Tim's keys aside, I wonder if its the self answerage
basically, they are planning to go Catch-22 style.
Close the old question so that no one may answer, then close any new copy as a dupe of the old one.
this way, no one will be able to post a reply at all. Seems a brilliant idea.
The answer wasn't there when I answered ;p
and my answer's literally the status quo
he did substancially edit to make it 'clear?' that it wasn't his intent to do so tho
Well, having been participating in Anime & Manga, the problem intensifies on entertainment site because sometimes the questions, even if they are on-topic, are unanswerable.
I actually have similar issues with many questions I ask since I usually ask as a last resort
1:40 PM
wait, you mean Anime & Manga has an actual Q&A site attached? I always assumed it was just an image board
@JourneymanGeek You're good at responding to this: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/308529/…
@JourneymanGeek I disagree with it
Have to use the system as it is
I'll leave that one
1:51 PM
@JourneymanGeek Why?
cause I know there's folks better suited to answer it, and they'll find it
Send an email to the antivirus maker.
@rene flag as NAA
@HTTPS BTW, thanks for reminding me that. He said that. While wearing Emil mask.
2:22 PM
Anyone with more experience with Linux Mint than me wants to check this answer? Based on my understanding, this is misleading at least. AFAIK, it should be active by default, so if that user has needed to edit the grub file, it means something must have disabled it beforehand. Maybe he tried installing SElinux?
2:39 PM
sorry @Taryn if that last off-topic MSE Q/A went a bit rough
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Pick the longest stick by user17318 on codegolf.SE
@Shog9 Are suggested edit audits only known-bad? If so, what's to stop a robo-reviewer from simply rejecting all edits?
(not to you, Shog)
@SonicWizard that is not a dupe, they ask for drag/drop WITHOUT that dialog
@rene So does the proposed target. Look carefully at the screenshot.
hmmm, not convinced
2:47 PM
@SonicWizard when in any doubt, let the community deal with it?
@rene "by dropping it on the edit page"
and once again I forget my vows and flag an user for deletion.
Besides, you don't have the correct Chaos Emerald anyway, and Shadow is out.
@rene ooh which one?
@JourneymanGeek here
2:50 PM
that did go a bit rough
3:02 PM
3:35 PM
This could use some followers!
@eviloverflow, Fake handbag district, Shenzen
Handy tips for asking better questions on the greatest programming forum in the world.
5 tweets, 0 followers, following 6 users
Had a question closed or downvoted on Stack Overflow? Feel it's proof that its moderators are a bunch of power-hungry, crypto-fascist neckbeards living in their moms' basements? Head to Meta Stack Overflow and let them know! How else can they ever learn and change?
3:48 PM
Only on Fridays.
4:02 PM
Meanwhile, @TimPost could you check if SE API has a problem? It's hiccuping for me just now. (re: API / App having issues)
4:55 PM
I love my stack exchange shirt
@TimPost I broke Teams:
Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'existingMentions' of undefined
    at Function.n.mergeMentions (VM366 mentions-transpiled.en.js:1)
    at Function.n.initCommentsOnPost (VM366 mentions-transpiled.en.js:1)
    at Object.eval (eval at <anonymous> (jquery.min.js:2), <anonymous>:3:49)
    at i (jquery.min.js:2)
    at Object.add [as done] (jquery.min.js:2)
    at Object.StackExchange.ready (stub.en.js?v=6570e34edc7c:1)
    at eval (eval at <anonymous> (jquery.min.js:2), <anonymous>:2:19)
    at eval (<anonymous>)
Repro steps:
1. (possibly optional?) Edit notifications on the question
2. Post comment pinging a user
3. Try to edit question notifications again
Chrome 65.0.3325.181, Win10
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7:23 PM
@HTTPS We've been having some redis-y issues all day, all kinds of stuff might have got a bit wonky
@Undo Good job! (reported)
Wonders what reported here means ...
Some sort of internal issue tracker, I presume.
7:39 PM
my humor needs work
@rene Not necessarily. I'm often just dense.
Let's settle on that we are out-of-tune ...
7:53 PM
Has there been any discussion on any question related to this: quantumcomputing.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/147/…? on the mother Meta
I feel it must have been somewhere but I can't find it now
(I personally feel that it would lead to some sort of discrimination)
... UGH!!! Joining a private beta defaults to the front page of the site rather than the link you followed to get to the site.
@Blue That's sort of the entire point of tag badges and reputation.
There's an answer by Pops on some smaller meta explaining it won't happen.
7:56 PM
The trick is to find out which one.
@Catija Wait, what is the entire point of badges and reputation? I don't get you
@SFTP Yeah, I tried searching...
@Blue Tag badges show that you have expertise in an area. Reputation shows that you've proven to the community that you know what you're talking about. I have a difficult time imagining SE being willing to verify that someone's actually an "expert" in a subject and grant them a special badge.
Heck, they don't even indicate their own staff.
@Catija Right. Verifying that someone is a expert and actively working in the industry is a difficult task. We would need a blue tick feature like they have on Twitter/Quora etc., which I don't see happening anytime soon. Secondly, it would give some unfair weight-age to the answers/opinions given by the people with those ticks. I wouldn't want SE to replicate that model
I prefer people to vote on the content and judge it irrespective of who is posting
8:00 PM
@Blue Ah, so you're trying to write an answer saying that question is a bad idea?
@Catija Yes
Or at least thinking of it
@Blue Yes, that's how SE is designed to work. That proposal is a corruption of the SE model.
Thanks for the input
8:01 PM
I think if you take it from that viewpoint, you don't necessarily need any proof that SE won't do it...
Working in a field is amazing... it doesn't mean you know how to convey that information well in an answer. :)
Yup. Those are some pretty solid points against that proposal :)
Q: Is there a way to highlight special users in our stack exchange site

michaelmcandrewWe have a couple of programmes for people that donate time and money to CiviCRM. We'd like to be able to recognise these people when they come to stack exchange. Is there any way recognise arbitrary people here? Can we add custom fields to stack exchange profiles, for example?

Found it. \o/
Ah, great
8:04 PM
I don't know that's quite the same... this seems to be in reference to something like a mod diamond while that's about a field on their profile?
Similar thing, a custom design element.
Not saying it's an exact duplicate, but it's the closest post where I've seen an employee stating it won't happen.
Of course Pops is not an employee now, but he was then.
That's arguing, though, that it's not technically possible and that, unless other sites want it, they're unlikely to make it possible... but it's technically possible to add a symbol after a username. It already exists.
Well, that's the best I could do to find a post for Blue.
8:13 PM
@TimPost another Teams bug: in the /users/ page, changing the time period has no effect on the reputation; it just shows the total reputation, not that of the last ${timePeriod}: i.sstatic.net/W2Cwx.png
This calls for Hats. — Jeremy Banks 17 secs ago
I'm not sure he'll ever get that notification. I don't think he uses the account any more.
Hmm, true.
Hats are an insufficiently-explored business model. :P
I was really disappointed when it was pointed out to me that the 2016 hats video was a lie.
8:17 PM
Draw up five hats a month. Available for that limited time only. $10 each. Unlocked forever.
Oh, yeah... like premium skins... they don't actually affect gameplay, they just let you look cool.
Heck, even just one or two would work.
I am a whale for that crap, and I wouldn't be shocked if there were other users who fell into that category. :P
Ash is sporting a pair of bunny ears in Warframe right now.
And you wouldn't have to ship anything to people... so it wouldn't have the overhead of physical swag...
And, often, companies will pony up dough to have you offer branded content like that... so someone could buy a Chrome hat or an Android head, for example.
Doing this without annoying the hell out of everyone is of course a problem.
As long as they're static images, I don't see how they'd be annoying.
Particularly if there was still an "I hate hats" button that disabled them from your view across the network.
8:21 PM
but what about non-registered users? I'd be inclined to hide them.
Why would unregistered users care about seeing them or not? Maybe I'm missing something obvious...
@Catija I put your point in, too. How's the answer looking? Anything else I should add?
@Catija Just 'cause hats are visually noisy and stack is visually pretty clean.
Maybe not a big deal.
8:23 PM
I guess it would depend on if they're allowed to escape from the normal frame the way they are during Winter Bash?
@Blue Let me look...
I was assuming the same hat system as Winter Bash. If they can't escape the frame, they could just be part of your avatar.
There'd also probably be a bigger push for being able to layer multiple hats in the UI.
@Blue Looks great! I think your formatting might use some work? I think with how big your second paragraph is, you probably'd be better off using headers than bullet points.
Alternately, you can actually put paragraph breaks inside bullets.
@Catija How to do that? Just "Enter" twice doesn't work
Probably I need to adjust the spacing
8:27 PM
Ah, done
Editing it in
A: How to make list entry of many paragraphs?

Martijn PietersNo, list items can span multiple paragraphs: Just start a bullet and keep indenting the following paragraphs with at least one space. New bullets can follow. Nested bullets are the same. Just match the indentation of the first line past the bullet. Markdown source of the above: * Just s...

@JeremyBanks That's what I proposed in that post on CiviCRM. Offer badge-enhanced profile pics to whoever you think should have them, they can use them at their discretion.
No need for SE to do anything for that to happen.
@SFTP You mean... like.... HATS?!
8:40 PM
@Blue Nice update... though, the "let us remove accepts" has been argued and lost repeatedly... so maybe save it for a separate post? If an accepted answer is harmfully incorrect, a moderator can remove it. But we're more likely to get them to stop pinning the accepted answer above the highest voted one than the ability to remove the check mark.
I'd hate for your answer to be downvoted because people disagree with that last paragraph.
@Catija That makes sense, okay, I'll remove it
Oh, the user who wrote that meta question is in Austin, too. :D
He's a physicist at Strangeworks
Works with whurley
8:43 PM
Is Strangeworks Austin based, then?
Guess so.
Yeah, I think so
Quite a few people from TAMU seem associated
Strangeworks has a shady website though :P
Wow, their website is... kinda annoying.
lol, yeah
8:46 PM
The animated gifs everywhere is... not cool.
I've complained about that before
They don't seem to care :P
It's really distracting.
Some of them don't even make sense... like the one for "top".
in The Classical Channel on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Mar 22 at 17:10, by whurley
@Blue Nope. :) Not for a while, and will probably note list employees at any time in the future. We will, however, be linking it to GitHub, and other resources. Already well into Enterprise accounts so not too worried about that angle too much. I do however want a news section and updates etc. Which we're currently working on. We're also adding a section about the standards and open source work we're doing.
@Catija Reminds me of Ripley's Believe It or Not
8:48 PM
@Catija Even using "Quantum" as a noun would likely drive away many serious physicists ;)
(Well, arguably it could be used as a noun in some cases, but it doesn't really fit there, the way they used it)
I guess it's just shorthand for the full QC...
@Catija Well, yes, of course
But it feels like they went over the top in making the site look humorous
And trendy
8:51 PM
Heh... well, I have no clue... and if that's "trendy"... I'm clearly not.
Anyway, things are going more or less good on the main site
It looks like an angelfire site from the 90s.
We had a huge influx of questions in the past 2-3 days
After the SO blog post
It's probably going public by tomorrow
8:52 PM
So I'm happy I guess :)
Combined with the cover art from the Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark books.
Time to doze off now. Good chatting with you. Biya! (and thanks)
They won't likely make a site public on a Saturday... they usually do that on Monday or Tuesday...
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